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Re: browsing with edge,

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hi David and all.
First to David, Cortana, and win ten in general, is wonderful.

I do not understand everyone's deal about hating on windows 10.
Yes, i will be the first to admit, I did once or twice in my life too, however, now i'm seeing it is totally wonderful and it appears as if it is getting better all the time.


Scott
Original message:

Hi,
Try reading the results from Cortana with edge Now, The newest Windows 10
App assentials NVDA add on that Joseph lee makes, makes Edge much more
accessible. Make sure that you indeed have that NVDA add on. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether
you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two
of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser
as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you
want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled
it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts
of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can
use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but
not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this
is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they
have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear
as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa
area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried
on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the
right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of
both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise
on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird




Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Hi,
Try reading the results from Cortana with edge Now, The newest Windows 10 App assentials NVDA add on that Joseph lee makes, makes Edge much more accessible. Make sure that you indeed have that NVDA add on. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since
the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it
as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla
firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?





--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird


Re: browsing with edge,

Peter Beasley
 

Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 


Re: browsing with edge,

Scott VanDeWalle
 

i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit, as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird


Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

David Moore
 

Good for you! You just put a smile on my face, and you made my day! Have a great weekend!

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hello, i agree.
I have all three of those plus of course edge.
have fun
later
Scott
Original message:
I use Chrome as my default browser, now, and have been using it since September. Firefox now presents the options in a web page where you need to turn off the virtual cursor to navigate it well, and the add ons in Firefox does so as well. Chrome just has a few more items that come up as web pages. Settings is very easy to navigate, and like others say, it is great for streaming movies, videos, and watching and listening to pod casts. Every browser is good for certain things. I will keep saying this until everyone reads this. It is very good to use at least three browsers, because one browser is good in one situation, and another browser is good in other situations. Here we go. IE is good for social media and light browsing and great for downloading programs. Firefox is great for filling out forms and working with banking sites and so on. Chrome is great for media purposes like streaming, and listening to Youtube videos, and anything that deals with media. Chrome is indeed the fastest browser of the three. There are more add ons in firefox, but Chrome is catching up. The speed makes up for less add ons. Now, even Edge has its place. Edge can access the information that Cortana gives you in win10. I asked Cortana the weather forcast for places around the world, and she only said the forcast for a couple of days. However, I was able to read the forcast for the entire week with NVDA in the edge browser. That is because Cortana puts her results in Edge for you to read. NVDA can access this very well. One browser just will not do everything you need it to do. It just will not simply happen. You need to use all of the three main browsers for the situations that I outlined. Firefox for banking, for example, IE to download a program, and Chrome to work and stream and play media. One browser just is not going to do all of that in a very fast an efficient way. Learn more than one browser, and you will be twice as efficient when it comes to working with all kinds of web sites. Have a great one.
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.
Gene
From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.
From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com> for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 


Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello, i agree.
I have all three of those plus of course edge.
have fun
later
Scott
Original message:

I use Chrome as my default browser, now, and have been using it since September. Firefox now presents the options in a web page where you need to turn off the virtual cursor to navigate it well, and the add ons in Firefox does so as well. Chrome just has a few more items that come up as web pages. Settings is very easy to navigate, and like others say, it is great for streaming movies, videos, and watching and listening to pod casts. Every browser is good for certain things. I will keep saying this until everyone reads this. It is very good to use at least three browsers, because one browser is good in one situation, and another browser is good in other situations. Here we go. IE is good for social media and light browsing and great for downloading programs. Firefox is great for filling out forms and working with banking sites and so on. Chrome is great for media purposes like streaming, and listening to Youtube videos, and anything that deals with media. Chrome is indeed the fastest browser of the three. There are more add ons in firefox, but Chrome is catching up. The speed makes up for less add ons. Now, even Edge has its place. Edge can access the information that Cortana gives you in win10. I asked Cortana the weather forcast for places around the world, and she only said the forcast for a couple of days. However, I was able to read the forcast for the entire week with NVDA in the edge browser. That is because Cortana puts her results in Edge for you to read. NVDA can access this very well. One browser just will not do everything you need it to do. It just will not simply happen. You need to use all of the three main browsers for the situations that I outlined. Firefox for banking, for example, IE to download a program, and Chrome to work and stream and play media. One browser just is not going to do all of that in a very fast an efficient way. Learn more than one browser, and you will be twice as efficient when it comes to working with all kinds of web sites. Have a great one.
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.
Gene
From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.
From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com> for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: browsing with edge,

 

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since
the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it
as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla
firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?




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tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
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Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

David Moore
 

I use Chrome as my default browser, now, and have been using it since September. Firefox now presents the options in a web page where you need to turn off the virtual cursor to navigate it well, and the add ons in Firefox does so as well. Chrome just has a few more items that come up as web pages. Settings is very easy to navigate, and like others say, it is great for streaming movies, videos, and watching and listening to pod casts. Every browser is good for certain things. I will keep saying this until everyone reads this. It is very good to use at least three browsers, because one browser is good in one situation, and another browser is good in other situations. Here we go. IE is good for social media and light browsing and great for downloading programs. Firefox is great for filling out forms and working with banking sites and so on. Chrome is great for media purposes like streaming, and listening to Youtube videos, and anything that deals with media. Chrome is indeed the fastest browser of the three. There are more add ons in firefox, but Chrome is catching up.  The speed makes up for less add ons. Now, even Edge has its place. Edge can access the information that Cortana gives you in win10. I asked Cortana the weather forcast for places around the world, and she only said the forcast for a couple of days. However, I was able to read the forcast for the entire week with NVDA in the edge browser. That is because Cortana puts her results in Edge for you to read. NVDA can access this very well. One browser just will not do everything you need it to do. It just will not simply happen. You need to use all of the three main browsers for the situations that I outlined. Firefox for banking, for example, IE to download a program, and Chrome to work and stream and play media. One browser just is not going to do all of that in a very fast an efficient way. Learn more than one browser, and you will be twice as efficient when it comes to working with all kinds of web sites. Have a great one.
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 
There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 

Gene
 
From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 
ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
 cheers
paul otter
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.
 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 
Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 


Re: browsing with edge,

Gene
 

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 


Re: browsing with edge,

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 



Re: next release of nvda:

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well. From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?

Kenny Peyattt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: next release of nvda:

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well. From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?

Kenny Peyattt jr.

 

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Re: next release of nvda:

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well. From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?

Kenny Peyattt jr.

 

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Re: browsing with edge,

Pascal Lambert
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 


next release of nvda:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?

Kenny Peyattt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Gene
 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 

Gene
 

From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
 cheers
paul otter
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.
 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 
Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 


Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Gene
 

Edge isn't fully accessible.  Why not use a different browser until Microsoft finally makes Edge fully accessible.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 


Re: Slightly off topic but doei anyone know of any accessible piano software or websites

Bhavya shah
 

Hi,
I used something called Electronic Piano, though I have no idea of its
website or much of the program either. I had installed it and played
it just sometimes for fun. The major problem is fthat the musical note
is played after a noticeable delay after the corresponding key press.
Anyways, I am satisfied with my real-life guitar...
Just wondering, does Sweet Little Piano provide the ability to record
what is played? That would be something fun.
Thanks.

On 5/20/16, Artin Dekker <artindekker@mail.com> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]

Sweet Little Piano,
http://www.ronimusic.com/download/freeware/setup_swlipi32.exe.

op 20-5-2016 om 16:31 schreef brandon:



Hello list,
This is just a quick question for you guys and if this is off topic I
apologize in advance.
But anyways does anyone know of any assessible programs or websites where I
can play the piano using the computer keyboard.
I am not looking for a program or a websites that needs you to use an
external piano keyboard.
Thank you all in advance.
Brandon,
Reed

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Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Peter,


This is definitely an Edge issue.  Use Internet Explorer or Firefox.  I was able to locate all the links and activate them.  Firefox with NVDA identified them as clickable, but when you press enter on such clickable items in Firefox 47.02, they are activated.



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io 
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?  


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