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Re: nvdaes add-ons updated #addonrelease

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi, there are authors that provide that mechanism, but it's not provided by NVDA. It's in add-ons, not in NVDA itself. Please look at this issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3208
I'm not completely sure about this: I don't know if it could produce any issue if some other add-ons or programs check for updates or make some process at the same time.
If I were sure, I would implement this using code based on other add-ons and the update functionality for NVDA.

Thanks

El 30/06/2018 a las 17:22, Brian Vogel escribió:
NVDA does provide a mechanism for add-ons to self-monitor as being updated and to notify the user that these are available and ask if they want to install the update.
I've got several installed that have done this in the past, and the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on did just that this morning.
I don't know what's involved in getting this functionality integrated into a given add-on, as I don't write them, but Joseph Lee and several others definitely do.  There is no conflict between add-ons as far as each having this self-monitoring feature.
--
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/Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./
          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Re: nvdaes add-ons updated #addonrelease

 

NVDA does provide a mechanism for add-ons to self-monitor as being updated and to notify the user that these are available and ask if they want to install the update.

I've got several installed that have done this in the past, and the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on did just that this morning.

I don't know what's involved in getting this functionality integrated into a given add-on, as I don't write them, but Joseph Lee and several others definitely do.  There is no conflict between add-ons as far as each having this self-monitoring feature.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

          ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 


Re: nvdaes add-ons updated #addonrelease

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi, these add-ons don't include a way to update themselves. I didn't implement it since I don't know what would happen if several add-ons include this, since NVDA for now does not provide a way to do it.
For now, you need to be care of updates on mailing lists, and download the last version on the website.


Thanks

El 30/06/2018 a las 15:29, Gerardo Corripio escribió:
Again I'm finding they don't update by themselves using latest NVDA, thus I guess they're not compatible yet with the new AddOns updating feature? I restarted NVDA but no go. Should it ask me or let me know that an AddON update is available?
El 30/06/2018 a las 12:37 a.m., Noelia Ruiz escribió:
Hi, the following add-ons mantained by me (nvdaes), have been updated and are available on the community add-ons website, at:
https://addons.nvda-project.org:

They contain translations updates:

* Clip Contents Designer 8.1.
* emoticons 7.1. Thanks Chris as main author, Mesar and Francisco Javier.
* eMule 3.12. Thanks Chris and Alberto Buffolino as authors.
* placeMarkers 10.1. Thanks Chris, also as an author.
* readFeeds 4.4. Thanks Mesar as an author too.
* reportSymbols 4.1.

Thanks users, reviewers and translators for making these add-ons possible and contributing to improve them.
Please, for more details or to download these add-ons, go to the website, at
https://addons.nvda-project.org

Repos of these add-ons are on GitHub at
https://github.com/nvdaes

I started to create issue templates for requesting features or reporting bugs, for now just in Emoticons.

For ease of reviews, as always, commits to add-ons maintained by Abdel, Robert and me are sent to the following mailing list:
https://nvdaes.groups.io/g/NVDAADDONSCOMMITS

Enjoy!



Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

Roger Stewart
 

I'd say make it unassigned so we can define it ourselves.

Thanks.

Roger

On 6/29/2018 7:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits and drawbacks to each approach:
* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands, as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.
* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used by add-ons.
Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.


On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key
Conflicts

Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.










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Re: NVDA in safe mode

Roger Stewart
 

This link works just fine, but be sure to change the last digit from zero to a one before using it!

Roger

On 6/30/2018 12:19 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi


Found the file and have drop boxed it at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0

for the message that was sent before for windows 10 the activate safe
mode zip file is not needed I think it was more for earlier machines.


some body on the list might be able to give you more information the
ones who have used it. I just have not.


Gene nz



On 6/30/2018 5:15 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Don


The following directions are from off my nvda audio tutorials page under
trouble shooting.


I know it works on windows 10 which is confirmed when the tutorial was
added to. Every step must be followed for it to work.Both to get into
safe mode and also leave it.


There is also a zip file floating about it is called like safe mode.zip
and works with real tech cards and others from what i hear. I would have
to look to see if i have it or some one else might.


Any how directions are below to get into and out of safe mode.


How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with the NVDA screen
reader by Hareth  and co
What is safe mode?
Safe mode is a troubleshooting option for Windows that starts your
computer in a limited state. Only the basic files and drivers necessary
to run Windows are started. Safe mode is useful for troubleshooting
problems with programs and drivers that might not start correctly or
that might prevent Windows from starting correctly.
To use NVDA in safe mode
You will need to install a registry patch first. This file can be found
at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0
After it has been installed it will allow you to use NVDA in safe mode.
This has been tested on a Windows 7 and Windows 10 machine and with
quite a few different sound cards.
Directions to go into and out of safe mode in Windows
You can reboot in to safe mode by doing the following:
Press Windows plus R and type msconfig and hit Enter
Press Ctrl plus Tab to get to the "boot tab"
Tab to "safe boot" and check the check mark/check box.
Tab to "base video" and check it as well.
Tab to the apply button. Press Enter (or spacebar).
Tab to the OK button and press it. You should get a prompt to restart
the computer to apply the changes.
If you select "restart now" your PC should restart into safe mode.
Please note: When the registry patch has been installed, when you go
into safe mode,  you will have sound and be able to use the NVDA screen
reader.
Message you will get while in safe mode

To confirm you are in safe mode, you can use the NVDA key + letter B.
Below is the type of message you will get as an example on a Windows 10
machine.
Safe Mode Microsoft (R) Windows (R) (Build
16299.rs3_release.170928-1534) Safe Mode
After finishing your PC job with safe mode, do the same steps above, but
this time uncheck the two check boxes above for both safe boot, and base
video. Tab to apply and press Enter. Tab to OK and press Enter (or
spacebar) and restart. Your PC will restart to the normal mode.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2018 12:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Can someone direct me to instructions to set up NVDA to run in safe
mode please.
Thanks




Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

Rui Fontes
 

I do not agree!

Many users do not know how to assign a gesture to a command...

Rui Fontes


Às 03:12 de 30/06/2018, David Moore escreveu:

Hi!
I think it would be better to leave the key command unassigned.
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*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts
Hi,
Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits and drawbacks to each approach:
* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands, as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.
* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used by add-ons.
Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts
The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.
On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing
conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard

> Wells

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key

> Conflicts

>

> Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey
conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>


Re: nvdaes add-ons updated #addonrelease

Gerardo Corripio
 

Again I'm finding they don't update by themselves using latest NVDA, thus I guess they're not compatible yet with the new AddOns updating feature? I restarted NVDA but no go. Should it ask me or let me know that an AddON update is available?

El 30/06/2018 a las 12:37 a.m., Noelia Ruiz escribió:
Hi, the following add-ons mantained by me (nvdaes), have been updated and are available on the community add-ons website, at:
https://addons.nvda-project.org:

They contain translations updates:

* Clip Contents Designer 8.1.
* emoticons 7.1. Thanks Chris as main author, Mesar and Francisco Javier.
* eMule 3.12. Thanks Chris and Alberto Buffolino as authors.
* placeMarkers 10.1. Thanks Chris, also as an author.
* readFeeds 4.4. Thanks Mesar as an author too.
* reportSymbols 4.1.

Thanks users, reviewers and translators for making these add-ons possible and contributing to improve them.
Please, for more details or to download these add-ons, go to the website, at
https://addons.nvda-project.org

Repos of these add-ons are on GitHub at
https://github.com/nvdaes

I started to create issue templates for requesting features or reporting bugs, for now just in Emoticons.

For ease of reviews, as always, commits to add-ons maintained by Abdel, Robert and me are sent to the following mailing list:
https://nvdaes.groups.io/g/NVDAADDONSCOMMITS

Enjoy!

--
Gera
Enviado desde Thunderbird


Re: NVDA in safe mode

Don H
 

I had already installed the .reg file to activate sound in safe mode. I had also went to the boot part of msconfig and checked the two options you indicated and after hitting the OK button restarted windows and got into safe mode. However after getting to the desktop and hitting enter on the NVDA icon and trying to use the NVDA shortcut key I got no speech.
Running latest Windows 10 and latest released version of NVDA.


document review mode stops to work when switching between WhatsApp and a web browser

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi all.

The problem with WhatsApp is similar with the problem fixed with spotify.

When I open WhatsApp, I can navigate the conversations using ctrl+tab

So, if I open a web browser and read a page, when I press alt+tab to switch back to WhatsApp, the document review mode stops to work.

To have it work again, I have to close WhatsApp and open it again.

 

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA in safe mode

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes I used it on 7, and on xp with the older version of nvda that will run on it. It seems to work on most sound cards on motherboards and rather supprisingly even on my external usb one with phono plug ins and outs.
I needed it when running avastclear and it did the job fine.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in safe mode


Hi


Found the file and have drop boxed it at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0

for the message that was sent before for windows 10 the activate safe
mode zip file is not needed I think it was more for earlier machines.


some body on the list might be able to give you more information the
ones who have used it. I just have not.


Gene nz



On 6/30/2018 5:15 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Don


The following directions are from off my nvda audio tutorials page under
trouble shooting.


I know it works on windows 10 which is confirmed when the tutorial was
added to. Every step must be followed for it to work.Both to get into
safe mode and also leave it.


There is also a zip file floating about it is called like safe mode.zip
and works with real tech cards and others from what i hear. I would have
to look to see if i have it or some one else might.


Any how directions are below to get into and out of safe mode.


How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with the NVDA screen
reader by Hareth and co
What is safe mode?
Safe mode is a troubleshooting option for Windows that starts your
computer in a limited state. Only the basic files and drivers necessary
to run Windows are started. Safe mode is useful for troubleshooting
problems with programs and drivers that might not start correctly or
that might prevent Windows from starting correctly.
To use NVDA in safe mode
You will need to install a registry patch first. This file can be found
at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0
After it has been installed it will allow you to use NVDA in safe mode.
This has been tested on a Windows 7 and Windows 10 machine and with
quite a few different sound cards.
Directions to go into and out of safe mode in Windows
You can reboot in to safe mode by doing the following:
Press Windows plus R and type msconfig and hit Enter
Press Ctrl plus Tab to get to the "boot tab"
Tab to "safe boot" and check the check mark/check box.
Tab to "base video" and check it as well.
Tab to the apply button. Press Enter (or spacebar).
Tab to the OK button and press it. You should get a prompt to restart
the computer to apply the changes.
If you select "restart now" your PC should restart into safe mode.
Please note: When the registry patch has been installed, when you go
into safe mode, you will have sound and be able to use the NVDA screen
reader.
Message you will get while in safe mode

To confirm you are in safe mode, you can use the NVDA key + letter B.
Below is the type of message you will get as an example on a Windows 10
machine.
Safe Mode Microsoft (R) Windows (R) (Build
16299.rs3_release.170928-1534) Safe Mode
After finishing your PC job with safe mode, do the same steps above, but
this time uncheck the two check boxes above for both safe boot, and base
video. Tab to apply and press Enter. Tab to OK and press Enter (or
spacebar) and restart. Your PC will restart to the normal mode.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2018 12:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Can someone direct me to instructions to set up NVDA to run in safe
mode please.
Thanks







Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

Brian's Mail list account
 

I'd think reassign is better as when you have many add ons most of the time yu forgot the ones that you do not use a lot.


maybe in future an add on that tells yu if any of your add ons have a conflict is a good idea!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts


Hi,
Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits and drawbacks to each approach:
* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands, as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.
* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used by add-ons.
Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.


On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key
Conflicts

Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.







Re: I've had it with Firefox

Gene
 

No one has said their computer is slow.  They say it is slow running quantum.  They switch browsers because they get the performance they expect. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message ------
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Well to be honest, every thing running even if its a program in your
notification tray should be treated the same.

So on this windows 7 box right now I have 5 windows open.

Not all of these are windows, what users tend to do me included is treat
opened windows as just opened program, every service, every startup
every notification icon should be treated the same.

Its a program taking up resources.

A screen reader is another open window.

So when you say a pc is being slow, it may be fine without a screen
reader running on it.




On 6/30/2018 2:44 PM, Jackie wrote:
> Gene, the truth is that:
> a) a screenreader, by its very nature, is going to slow down a machine
> to varying degrees; &
> b) Some things having to do w/those varying degrees are other programs
> running on a machine taking up memory, etc. Sighted users also notice
> browser slowdowns when malware or too many other programs are present.
> Believe me, I know--I've cleaned literally hundreds of them. It's also
> worth cleaning out temporary files, as these, too, can slow down
> browsing.
>
> It would be interesting to look at programs running on folks' machines
> who are having trouble vs those who are not to see if any sort of
> common ground can be found. The opinion is not necessarily a hard &
> fast 1, just something I've noted from fixing lots & lots of computers
> for both blind & sighted folks alike. I guess what I'm saying is I'm
> not sure the screenreader is actually really involved, except to the
> extent that screenreaders slow down a computer, or, if it is, that
> other factors may be of far greater importance.
>
> On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>> I agree with Gene here. Office 365 really was the only thing on here and a
>> couple of HP MS Store apps since this PC is an HP.
>>
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>> 10
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene
>> <gsasner@...>
>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:44:59 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>
>> I don't see any basis for forming any but a very tenuous opinion that
>> bloatware might be the cause of this problem.  Why would bloatware interfere
>> with the working of a screen-reader with a browser?  the problem started
>> when Quantum was developed.  Bloatware, uninstalling office, etc. has no
>> evident connection with the problem.  But to try to get evidence, are those
>> experiencing a problem using a machine with bloatware or on which a
>> significant amount has been removed?  Conversely what about those without
>> the problem?  Does your machine have or has it had bloatware?
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Lino Morales<mailto:linomorales001@...>
>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:10 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>
>>
>> I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t
>> afford the subscription.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>> 10
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Jackie
>> <abletec@...<mailto:abletec@...>>
>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>
>> I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
>> technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
>> tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
>> know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
>> vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
>> of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
>> Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
>> go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
>> always dangerous for me.
>>
>> On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>>> So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue
>>> to
>>> use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows
>>> 10
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
>>> Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>>
>>> Hi, Lino,
>>>
>>> I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox
>>> and
>>> I like that.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
>>> Morales
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>>
>>> Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
>>> with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit
>>> the
>>> bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait
>>> ti
>>> FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are
>>> good
>>> buddies.
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows
>>> 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
>> Jackie McBride
>> Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
>> https://brighter-vision.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




Re: I've had it with Firefox

Gene
 

Those are generalizations and are true and not true, depending on circumstances.  You are generalizing and not taking into account the current factors.  Bloatware is not concerned with interactions between a screen-reader and a browser.  the programs don't even support or use the browse mode buffer or method of interaction.  If the computer is not slow in general, but slow in this instance, there is no reason to believe that bloatware or malware is involved.  No one has complained about slow performance generally, only with Quantum and the Firefox developers specifically said that slow performance would be a problem. 
 
But because it's possible, no matter how improbable, that there may be some sort of unlikely interaction, I asked people to report so we can see if there is any pattern.  I don't think we'll find one concerning bloat or malware.  We may find some other patttern, depending on what people report, though I'm not optimistic.  
 
In my case, speed isn't a problem.  But for some reason, when I move to a new page, if I don't press tab one time shortly after doing something like following a link to open a new page, the page isn't loaded into the browse mode buffer and I hear blank announced when I move.  So an extra tab is needed every time I open a new page.  Who knows why.  I haven't seen anyone else report this behavior.  Quantum needs proper beta testing as far as accessibility is concerned, something that clearly has not been done with a large enough sample or with the proper thoroughness.  Those interested may want to point this out in whatever venue Firefox uses to discuss accessibility.  Good intentions don't substitute for insufficient evaluation.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Gene, the truth is that:
a) a screenreader, by its very nature, is going to slow down a machine
to varying degrees; &
b) Some things having to do w/those varying degrees are other programs
running on a machine taking up memory, etc. Sighted users also notice
browser slowdowns when malware or too many other programs are present.
Believe me, I know--I've cleaned literally hundreds of them. It's also
worth cleaning out temporary files, as these, too, can slow down
browsing.

It would be interesting to look at programs running on folks' machines
who are having trouble vs those who are not to see if any sort of
common ground can be found. The opinion is not necessarily a hard &
fast 1, just something I've noted from fixing lots & lots of computers
for both blind & sighted folks alike. I guess what I'm saying is I'm
not sure the screenreader is actually really involved, except to the
extent that screenreaders slow down a computer, or, if it is, that
other factors may be of far greater importance.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
> I agree with Gene here. Office 365 really was the only thing on here and a
> couple of HP MS Store apps since this PC is an HP.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
> ________________________________
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene
> <gsasner@...>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:44:59 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> I don't see any basis for forming any but a very tenuous opinion that
> bloatware might be the cause of this problem.  Why would bloatware interfere
> with the working of a screen-reader with a browser?  the problem started
> when Quantum was developed.  Bloatware, uninstalling office, etc. has no
> evident connection with the problem.  But to try to get evidence, are those
> experiencing a problem using a machine with bloatware or on which a
> significant amount has been removed?  Conversely what about those without
> the problem?  Does your machine have or has it had bloatware?
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lino Morales<mailto:linomorales001@...>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:10 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
>
> I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t
> afford the subscription.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Jackie
> <abletec@...<mailto:abletec@...>>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>
> I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
> technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
> tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
> know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
> vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
> of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
> Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
> go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
> always dangerous for me.
>
> On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>> So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue
>> to
>> use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.
>>
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows
>> 10
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
>> Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>
>> Hi, Lino,
>>
>> I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox
>> and
>> I like that.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
>> Morales
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox
>>
>> Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
>> with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit
>> the
>> bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait
>> ti
>> FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are
>> good
>> buddies.
>>
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows
>> 10
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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nvdaes add-ons updated #addonrelease

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi, the following add-ons mantained by me (nvdaes), have been updated and are available on the community add-ons website, at:
https://addons.nvda-project.org:

They contain translations updates:

* Clip Contents Designer 8.1.
* emoticons 7.1. Thanks Chris as main author, Mesar and Francisco Javier.
* eMule 3.12. Thanks Chris and Alberto Buffolino as authors.
* placeMarkers 10.1. Thanks Chris, also as an author.
* readFeeds 4.4. Thanks Mesar as an author too.
* reportSymbols 4.1.

Thanks users, reviewers and translators for making these add-ons possible and contributing to improve them.
Please, for more details or to download these add-ons, go to the website, at
https://addons.nvda-project.org

Repos of these add-ons are on GitHub at
https://github.com/nvdaes

I started to create issue templates for requesting features or reporting bugs, for now just in Emoticons.

For ease of reviews, as always, commits to add-ons maintained by Abdel, Robert and me are sent to the following mailing list:
https://nvdaes.groups.io/g/NVDAADDONSCOMMITS

Enjoy!


Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

Noelia Ruiz
 

OK, thanks.

El 30/06/2018 a las 7:25, Joseph Lee escribió:
Hi,
Some of us do post release announcements here as a matter of courtesy.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts
Hi, I did know this conflict, but I thought it was know also by authors and I understood that sometimes it's difficult to find assignments to satisfy all add-ons.
I don't use GoldenCursor, but if possible perhaps several functionality could be combinated in a dialog and assign it a keystroke, or none at all, making it available in NVDA's preferences menu, in a panel of the Settings multi-category dialog.
I'm quite new on this list. I don't know if maintainers use to post add-on releases here, or it's better to keep this on the add-ons list.
Thanks
El 30/06/2018 a las 4:12, David Moore escribió:
Hi!

I think it would be better to leave the key command unassigned.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>
*Sent: *Friday, June 29, 2018 8:31 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have
KeyConflicts

Hi,

Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me
to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits
and drawbacks to each approach:

* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse
movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands,
as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.

* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit
toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't
conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input
gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used
by add-ons.

Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.

Cheers,

Joseph

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key
Conflicts

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.

On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is
causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function
and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard

> Wells

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key

> Conflicts

>

> Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey
conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA
is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents
Designer is too important to my productivity.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>


Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

 

Hi,
Some of us do post release announcements here as a matter of courtesy.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noelia Ruiz
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

Hi, I did know this conflict, but I thought it was know also by authors and I understood that sometimes it's difficult to find assignments to satisfy all add-ons.
I don't use GoldenCursor, but if possible perhaps several functionality could be combinated in a dialog and assign it a keystroke, or none at all, making it available in NVDA's preferences menu, in a panel of the Settings multi-category dialog.
I'm quite new on this list. I don't know if maintainers use to post add-on releases here, or it's better to keep this on the add-ons list.

Thanks


El 30/06/2018 a las 4:12, David Moore escribió:
Hi!

I think it would be better to leave the key command unassigned.


Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>
*Sent: *Friday, June 29, 2018 8:31 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have
KeyConflicts

Hi,

Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me
to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits
and drawbacks to each approach:

* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse
movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands,
as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.

* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit
toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't
conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input
gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used
by add-ons.

Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.

Cheers,

Joseph

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells

Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key
Conflicts

The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.

On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is
causing conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function
and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard

> Wells

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key

> Conflicts

>

> Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey
conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA
is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents
Designer is too important to my productivity.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>


Re: Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts

Noelia Ruiz
 

Hi, I did know this conflict, but I thought it was know also by authors and I understood that sometimes it's difficult to find assignments to satisfy all add-ons.
I don't use GoldenCursor, but if possible perhaps several functionality could be combinated in a dialog and assign it a keystroke, or none at all, making it available in NVDA's preferences menu, in a panel of the Settings multi-category dialog.
I'm quite new on this list. I don't know if maintainers use to post add-on releases here, or it's better to keep this on the add-ons list.

Thanks

El 30/06/2018 a las 4:12, David Moore escribió:
Hi!
I think it would be better to leave the key command unassigned.
                                                                                                                  Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>
*Sent: *Friday, June 29, 2018 8:31 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have KeyConflicts
Hi,
Ah yes, Golden Cursor will take over Windows+NVDA+C. Would you like me to change this for everyone, or make it unassigned? There are benefits and drawbacks to each approach:
* Reassign: people will need to learn a new command to change mouse movement unit. It is increasingly becoming risky to change commands, as add-ons are fighting for limited spots on the keyboard.
* Unassign: this means people will need to assign mouse movement unit toggle command themselves. The obvious advantage is that it won't conflict with Clip Contents Designer, the drawback being opening input gestures and assigning this feature to a command you know isn't used by add-ons.
Whatever the community says, I'll make it happen in add-on version 3.1.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key Conflicts
The most obvious one is NVDA+WINDOWS-KEY+C.
On 6/29/2018 5:18 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

> Hi,

> Which command is causing conflict? Whenever you say a key is causing
conflict, I (and authors) would like to know which function and command that's the source of the conflict. Thanks.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard

> Wells

> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 3:11 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor and Clip Contents Designer Have Key

> Conflicts

>

> Well, I was going to play with Golden Cursor, but it has hotkey
conflicts with Clip Contents Designer. I could change them, but NVDA is on too many of my computers to make this feasible and Clip Contents Designer is too important to my productivity.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>


Re: I've had it with Firefox

 

Well to be honest, every thing running even if its a program in your notification tray should be treated the same.

So on this windows 7 box right now I have 5 windows open.

Not all of these are windows, what users tend to do me included is treat opened windows as just opened program, every service, every startup every notification icon should be treated the same.

Its a program taking up resources.

A screen reader is another open window.

So when you say a pc is being slow, it may be fine without a screen reader running on it.

On 6/30/2018 2:44 PM, Jackie wrote:
Gene, the truth is that:
a) a screenreader, by its very nature, is going to slow down a machine
to varying degrees; &
b) Some things having to do w/those varying degrees are other programs
running on a machine taking up memory, etc. Sighted users also notice
browser slowdowns when malware or too many other programs are present.
Believe me, I know--I've cleaned literally hundreds of them. It's also
worth cleaning out temporary files, as these, too, can slow down
browsing.

It would be interesting to look at programs running on folks' machines
who are having trouble vs those who are not to see if any sort of
common ground can be found. The opinion is not necessarily a hard &
fast 1, just something I've noted from fixing lots & lots of computers
for both blind & sighted folks alike. I guess what I'm saying is I'm
not sure the screenreader is actually really involved, except to the
extent that screenreaders slow down a computer, or, if it is, that
other factors may be of far greater importance.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
I agree with Gene here. Office 365 really was the only thing on here and a
couple of HP MS Store apps since this PC is an HP.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10

________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene
<gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 5:44:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

I don't see any basis for forming any but a very tenuous opinion that
bloatware might be the cause of this problem. Why would bloatware interfere
with the working of a screen-reader with a browser? the problem started
when Quantum was developed. Bloatware, uninstalling office, etc. has no
evident connection with the problem. But to try to get evidence, are those
experiencing a problem using a machine with bloatware or on which a
significant amount has been removed? Conversely what about those without
the problem? Does your machine have or has it had bloatware?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Lino Morales<mailto:linomorales001@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 4:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox


I took Office 365 off my computer last year when I got it cause I can’t
afford the subscription.



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10



________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Jackie
<abletec@...<mailto:abletec@...>>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 2:23:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

I don't think that concluding there's an interaction w/accessibility
technology in terms of FF's slowness is necessarily valid. My own
tendency is to feel that there may be something like vendorware (yall
know--the crap vendors load onto their machines) or malware (perhaps
vendorware & malware are 1 & the same)--might be responsible. In terms
of not running any addons, you should really check, because sometimes
Office, etc, installs addons you may not even be aware of unless you
go in & look. Mostly just thinkin out loud on a Friday, & that's
always dangerous for me.

On 6/29/18, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
So do I. For now its making browsing much faster. Of course I’ll continue
to
use Edge for some things, but I’m so used to the FF layout.

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10

________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie
Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:43:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Hi, Lino,

I use waterfox and it works great for me. It's a bit faster than firefox
and
I like that.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino
Morales
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I've had it with Firefox

Well like I said in my subject line I’ve had I
with firefox. Every site is slowith NVDa even the mobile FB site. I bit
the
bullet and downloaded Waterfox. Seems to work much better. May I’ll wait
ti
FF 70 and see how fast that will be. So long FF. Me and WF and Edge are
good
buddies.

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Re: NVDA in safe mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Found the file and have drop boxed it at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0

for the message that was sent before for windows 10 the activate safe
mode zip file is not needed I think it was more for earlier machines.


some body on the list might be able to give you more information the
ones who have used it. I just have not.


Gene nz

On 6/30/2018 5:15 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Don


The following directions are from off my nvda audio tutorials page under
trouble shooting.


I know it works on windows 10 which is confirmed when the tutorial was
added to. Every step must be followed for it to work.Both to get into
safe mode and also leave it.


There is also a zip file floating about it is called like safe mode.zip
and works with real tech cards and others from what i hear. I would have
to look to see if i have it or some one else might.


Any how directions are below to get into and out of safe mode.


How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with the NVDA screen
reader by Hareth  and co
What is safe mode?
Safe mode is a troubleshooting option for Windows that starts your
computer in a limited state. Only the basic files and drivers necessary
to run Windows are started. Safe mode is useful for troubleshooting
problems with programs and drivers that might not start correctly or
that might prevent Windows from starting correctly.
To use NVDA in safe mode
You will need to install a registry patch first. This file can be found
at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0
After it has been installed it will allow you to use NVDA in safe mode.
This has been tested on a Windows 7 and Windows 10 machine and with
quite a few different sound cards.
Directions to go into and out of safe mode in Windows
You can reboot in to safe mode by doing the following:
Press Windows plus R and type msconfig and hit Enter
Press Ctrl plus Tab to get to the "boot tab"
Tab to "safe boot" and check the check mark/check box.
Tab to "base video" and check it as well.
Tab to the apply button. Press Enter (or spacebar).
Tab to the OK button and press it. You should get a prompt to restart
the computer to apply the changes.
If you select "restart now" your PC should restart into safe mode.
Please note: When the registry patch has been installed, when you go
into safe mode,  you will have sound and be able to use the NVDA screen
reader.
Message you will get while in safe mode

To confirm you are in safe mode, you can use the NVDA key + letter B.
Below is the type of message you will get as an example on a Windows 10
machine.
Safe Mode Microsoft (R) Windows (R) (Build
16299.rs3_release.170928-1534) Safe Mode
After finishing your PC job with safe mode, do the same steps above, but
this time uncheck the two check boxes above for both safe boot, and base
video. Tab to apply and press Enter. Tab to OK and press Enter (or
spacebar) and restart. Your PC will restart to the normal mode.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2018 12:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Can someone direct me to instructions to set up NVDA to run in safe
mode please.
Thanks





Re: NVDA in safe mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Don


The following directions are from off my nvda audio tutorials page under
trouble shooting.


I know it works on windows 10 which is confirmed when the tutorial was
added to. Every step must be followed for it to work.Both to get into
safe mode and also leave it.


There is also a zip file floating about it is called like safe mode.zip
and works with real tech cards and others from what i hear. I would have
to look to see if i have it or some one else might.


Any how directions are below to get into and out of safe mode.


How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with the NVDA screen
reader by Hareth  and co
What is safe mode?
Safe mode is a troubleshooting option for Windows that starts your
computer in a limited state. Only the basic files and drivers necessary
to run Windows are started. Safe mode is useful for troubleshooting
problems with programs and drivers that might not start correctly or
that might prevent Windows from starting correctly.
To use NVDA in safe mode
You will need to install a registry patch first. This file can be found
at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr72u3sk7p0za2r/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=0
After it has been installed it will allow you to use NVDA in safe mode.
This has been tested on a Windows 7 and Windows 10 machine and with
quite a few different sound cards.
Directions to go into and out of safe mode in Windows
You can reboot in to safe mode by doing the following:
Press Windows plus R and type msconfig and hit Enter
Press Ctrl plus Tab to get to the "boot tab"
Tab to "safe boot" and check the check mark/check box.
Tab to "base video" and check it as well.
Tab to the apply button. Press Enter (or spacebar).
Tab to the OK button and press it. You should get a prompt to restart
the computer to apply the changes.
If you select "restart now" your PC should restart into safe mode.
Please note: When the registry patch has been installed, when you go
into safe mode,  you will have sound and be able to use the NVDA screen
reader.
Message you will get while in safe mode

To confirm you are in safe mode, you can use the NVDA key + letter B.
Below is the type of message you will get as an example on a Windows 10
machine.
Safe Mode Microsoft (R) Windows (R) (Build
16299.rs3_release.170928-1534) Safe Mode
After finishing your PC job with safe mode, do the same steps above, but
this time uncheck the two check boxes above for both safe boot, and base
video. Tab to apply and press Enter. Tab to OK and press Enter (or
spacebar) and restart. Your PC will restart to the normal mode.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2018 12:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Can someone direct me to instructions to set up NVDA to run in safe
mode please.
Thanks