The results from Cortana is accessible, though, so why not use what we
can in Edge instead of waiting until everything in it is accessible. If
we can get some good from Edge, why not use that. Something is better
than nothing. That is how I think anyway. Take care, all.


*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 2:22 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Edge isn't fully accessible. Why not use a different browser until
Microsoft finally makes Edge fully accessible.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* ken lawrence via Groups.io
<mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 10:16 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but
not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since
they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup
player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make
there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then
on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all
greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener
clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to
listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock
station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with
WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different
browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no
button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to
interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no
play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA
clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the
webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m
technically a music club member? the websites for both are
www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.
perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix
on my end possibly?

Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well.
From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released
there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade
if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?
Kenny Peyattt jr.

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10




--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use 10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10 without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird

On 21 May 2016, at 04:47, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,
Yes, you need to create a MS account which is a good idea. You need that to use the win10 mail, calendar, and people apps as well.
Take care.

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.


From: Gene
mailto:gsasner@ripco.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
mailto:casablanca_31@hotmail.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter
mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby
mailto:bvinton@optonline.net


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are
www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>
for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

Hi David and all.
First to David, Cortana, and win ten in general, is wonderful.

I do not understand everyone's deal about hating on windows 10.
Yes, i will be the first to admit, I did once or twice in my life too,
however, now i'm seeing it is totally wonderful and it appears as if it
is getting better all the time.


Scott
Original message:

Hi,
Try reading the results from Cortana with edge Now, The newest Windows 10
App assentials NVDA add on that Joseph lee makes, makes Edge much more
accessible. Make sure that you indeed have that NVDA add on. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether
you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two
of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser
as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you
want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled
it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts
of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can
use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but
not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this
is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they
have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear
as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa
area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried
on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the
right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of
both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise
on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird

i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:

I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.

On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird

----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: 20 May, 2016 4:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Slightly off topic but doei anyone know of any accessible piano software or websites

[Edited Message Follows]

Sweet Little Piano, http://www.ronimusic.com/download/freeware/setup_swlipi32.exe.

op 20-5-2016 om 16:31 schreef brandon:

Hello list,
This is just a quick question for you guys and if this is off topic I apologize in advance. 
But anyways does anyone know of any assessible programs or websites where I can play the piano using the computer keyboard. 
I am not looking for a program or a websites that needs you to use an external piano keyboard. 
Thank you all in advance. 
Brandon,
Reed

Sent from my iPod

On 21 May 2016, at 04:47, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,
Yes, you need to create a MS account which is a good idea. You need that to use the win10 mail, calendar, and people apps as well.
Take care.

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.


From: Gene
mailto:gsasner@ripco.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
mailto:casablanca_31@hotmail.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter
mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby
mailto:bvinton@optonline.net


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are
www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>
for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?

On 21 May 2016, at 12:31 AM, brandon <breedto@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello list,
This is just a quick question for you guys and if this is off topic I apologize in advance.
But anyways does anyone know of any assessible programs or websites where I can play the piano using the computer keyboard.
I am not looking for a program or a websites that needs you to use an external piano keyboard.
Thank you all in advance.
Brandon,
Reed

Sent from my iPod

Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

 

From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

	Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

	Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



	Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



	On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

		That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

		 

		From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

		Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

		To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

		Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

		 

		Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

 

 

From: Greg Wocher

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 

Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?