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Re: browsing with edge,

Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge.  Please, how does one access the pull down menus in Edge?  I keep hitting the “alt-key” and nothing happens.   Is there another way in Edge?  All the alt key commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge.  Please advise.  Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the default each time.

Many thanks. 

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

 

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher

 

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 

 


Re: NVDA and iTunes 12.4

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Question,
Does anyone have audio books on their iTunes account? If so, how do you navigate the audio books section in iTunes 12.4?


Re: NVDA and iTunes 12.4

 

Based upon the search results at the Github trouble ticket page for NVDA:

             https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

there is not anything reported related to that release of iTunes.  You should always take a quick look there and add a keyword or keywords to the search criteria box that would get you specific open issues, not all open issues, which is the default.

You, and NVDA, are apparently not alone with issues with the new release of iTunes.  There is a thread entitled, New iTunes and latest version of JAWS, on the BlindTech forum that might interest you.

Brian
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NVDA and iTunes 12.4

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Has anyone reported the recent troubles with the newest version of iTunes to NV access?
Chris


Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Kevin Cussick
 

no I want to keep using ff so I will just use a search in the usual way.

On 20/05/2016 23:53, David Moore wrote:
The results from Cortana is accessible, though, so why not use what we
can in Edge instead of waiting until everything in it is accessible. If
we can get some good from Edge, why not use that. Something is better
than nothing. That is how I think anyway. Take care, all.


*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 2:22 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links

Edge isn't fully accessible. Why not use a different browser until
Microsoft finally makes Edge fully accessible.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* ken lawrence via Groups.io
<mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, May 20, 2016 10:16 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but
not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since
they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup
player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make
there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then
on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all
greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener
clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to
listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock
station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with
WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different
browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no
button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to
interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no
play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA
clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the
webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m
technically a music club member? the websites for both are
www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.
perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix
on my end possibly?


Re: next release of nvda:

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Gene,
Oddly enough, I received your mail thrice.
Anyways, it being NVDA's 10th anniversary, NV Access had indicated a
potential delay in releasing NVDA 2015.2, and that is confirmed by a
slightly late translation freeze.
All the same, we hopefully will have NVDA 2016.2 live soon enough.
Thanks.

On 5/21/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi

Usually it is around the 23rd of feb, may, aug, and nov if all goes well.
From what I hear this release might be delayed, but when it is released
there will be a email coming into your inbox, or nvda will want to upgrade
if the auto updater is turned on or there will be chatter on the list.

Gene nz


On 21/05/2016 7:25 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?
Kenny Peyattt jr.

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Re: browsing with edge,

Pete <emac00@...>
 

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use 10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10 without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






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Re: browsing with edge,

Pete <emac00@...>
 

I wonder if there is or will be an edge-iraticater like there was an ie-iraticater.

Pete


Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Hi all,
I have spent the last five hours doing more research with win10 apps. I am using NVDA 2016.1, and the latest version of the NVDA add on, Windows 10 apps essentials. Using these tools, here is what I have figured out concerning MS Edge browser. I can open the Edge browser. I can press Alt+D and type in a search or a particular web site address. I type in www.google.com to do my searches in Google. I can use object navigation to read the entire web page and use some short cut keys like H for heading, and E for edit box and so on. I can press CTRL+enter to open a link in a new tab and navigate and read that site easily with object navigation. Using the brows mode with arrow keys works okay, but using object navigation works much better, because the page seems to read a lot faster. For example, if I press ctrl+NVDA+right and left arrows to read word by word with the review cursor, it is a lot more snappy than just using CTRL+left and right arrow keys. I can use object navigation to access all of the buttons like the “more” button. I do the command to bring the mouse pointer to the place of the review cursor, and left click on my touch pad on my laptop. Many buttons then come into view including the settings button. Using object navigation, I can change all of my settings to the way I want them. For example, I just put in the URL that I want opened when Edge is launched. I can read my favorites list, and press CTRL+D to add a web page to my favorites. I can read all results that Cortana puts in the Edge browser. JAWS cannot do any of this that I have described at all with Edge. I must say that Edge is not accessible at all with JAWS, but it is very accessible for me so far with what I have done, with NVDA and having the win10 apps essentials add on. This is very exciting, because all who use NVDA can at least do the basics in the Edge browser already. I just wanted all NVDA users to know this. I read the NVDA web sites in the Edge browser with no problems using NVDA. Take care all. Win 10 is getting more and more accessible every day, it seems like, and I am excited for all of us. So, with NVDA, everything I mentioned so far is accessible in the Edge browser and I haven't tried many things yet with the Edge browser. Maybe you do not need a MS account. Try all of the apps, including Edge, and see if you can use them without an MS account. Have a great one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

I don’t know about that. I don’t have an MS account, yet I can use the Mail and People apps successfully. Not sure about Calendar though.
On 21 May 2016, at 04:47, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,
Yes, you need to create a MS account which is a good idea. You need that to use the win10 mail, calendar, and people apps as well.
Take care.

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.


From: Gene
mailto:gsasner@ripco.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
mailto:casablanca_31@hotmail.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter
mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby
mailto:bvinton@optonline.net


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are
www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>
for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?









Re: browsing with edge,

 

I partly agree, its half manageable at least from and admin level.
With all the drivers automated and updates it means less work for me.
With the earch now working for what I need its fine.
For the desktop and lock screen being able to be turned off or at least made normal I can see it working.
Thats not going to say I will sevenise the os as much as I can from uac down to the start menu.
With firefox I can bypass a lot of ms stuff as well as other things.
I am unsure about apps that need it using and or not converting my account to an ms one with the dialog as it is right now.
I am unsure about edge.
So win10 is half there, I do miss the shutdown, logon and off sounds.
Interestingly there are simple registry hacks to get the events to appear in control panel however they clearly do not execute for unlock login and off although there are sfx there for the purpose.
So its coming at least I know that.

On 21/05/2016 9:42 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
Hi David and all.
First to David, Cortana, and win ten in general, is wonderful.

I do not understand everyone's deal about hating on windows 10.
Yes, i will be the first to admit, I did once or twice in my life too,
however, now i'm seeing it is totally wonderful and it appears as if it
is getting better all the time.


Scott
Original message:
Hi,
Try reading the results from Cortana with edge Now, The newest Windows 10
App assentials NVDA add on that Joseph lee makes, makes Edge much more
accessible. Make sure that you indeed have that NVDA add on. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether
you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two
of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser
as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you
want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled
it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts
of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can
use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but
not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this
is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they
have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear
as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa
area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried
on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the
right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of
both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise
on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird




Re: browsing with edge,

 

Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use 10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10 without any real issue.

On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird


Re: Slightly off topic but doei anyone know of any accessible piano software or websites

Jacob Kruger
 

Not really relevant, but, here's a test page I put up a while ago, to primarily check if could invoke real-time sound effects in a web page, but, this one offers a pseudo-drum machine:
 
Also lets you record, and play back your routines, but anyway.

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 20 May, 2016 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slightly off topic but doei anyone know of any accessible piano software or websites

[Edited Message Follows]

Sweet Little Piano, http://www.ronimusic.com/download/freeware/setup_swlipi32.exe.

op 20-5-2016 om 16:31 schreef brandon:
Hello list,
This is just a quick question for you guys and if this is off topic I apologize in advance. 
But anyways does anyone know of any assessible programs or websites where I can play the piano using the computer keyboard. 
I am not looking for a program or a websites that needs you to use an external piano keyboard. 
Thank you all in advance. 
Brandon,
Reed

Sent from my iPod




Re: browsing with edge,

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

I don’t know about that. I don’t have an MS account, yet I can use the Mail and People apps successfully. Not sure about Calendar though.

On 21 May 2016, at 04:47, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Rosemarie,
Yes, you need to create a MS account which is a good idea. You need that to use the win10 mail, calendar, and people apps as well.
Take care.

From: Robert Mendoza
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.


From: Gene
mailto:gsasner@ripco.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert
mailto:casablanca_31@hotmail.com

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter
mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby
mailto:bvinton@optonline.net


To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io


Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are
www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>
for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?









Re: Slightly off topic but doei anyone know of any accessible piano software or websites

Michelle's Home Emails
 

Hi there,

What about Gdfeel from dancing dots or new score and Sabilius though this is a bit Exe

Michelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 May 2016, at 12:31 AM, brandon <breedto@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello list,
This is just a quick question for you guys and if this is off topic I apologize in advance.
But anyways does anyone know of any assessible programs or websites where I can play the piano using the computer keyboard.
I am not looking for a program or a websites that needs you to use an external piano keyboard.
Thank you all in advance.
Brandon,
Reed

Sent from my iPod


Re: browsing with edge,

David Moore
 

Hi Rosemarie,
Yes, you need to create a MS account which is a good idea. You need that to use the win10 mail, calendar, and people apps as well.
Take care.
 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.
 
 
From: Gene mailto:gsasner@...
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert mailto:casablanca_31@...
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

 

From: P. Otter mailto:pam.otter@...

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Bobby mailto:bvinton@...

	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

	Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

	Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



	Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



	On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

		That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

		 

		From: ken lawrence via Groups.io mailto:kenlawrence124@...

		Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

		To: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

		Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

		 

		Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?










Re: browsing with edge,

Robert Mendoza
 

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

 

From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

	Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

	Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



	Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



	On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

		That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

		 

		From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

		Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

		To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

		Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

		 

		Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?










Re: browsing with edge,

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@gmail.com>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@optonline.net>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com> for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: browsing with edge,

Robert Mendoza
 

From the time November released , the availability of Cortana here from my region was inaccessible but I can still use the normal searching from the start menu instead or typically shifts to web search engine like Google. More or less, the usual way is much further better as I could do

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 5:53 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi,
I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.
 
 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 




Re: browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

David Moore
 

The results from Cortana is accessible, though, so why not use what we can in Edge instead of waiting until everything in it is accessible. If we can get some good from Edge, why not use that. Something is better than nothing. That is how I think anyway. Take care, all.
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 
Edge isn't fully accessible.  Why not use a different browser until Microsoft finally makes Edge fully accessible.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:16 AM
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links
 
Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 


Re: browsing with edge,

Gene
 

I think many users will not share your enthusiasm.  Not only does Edge come up, but results Cortana shows are Bing results and neither of these things can be changed.  I would rather do a Google search using the browser I wish to use than have Microsoft make more money from sponsors by driving search results to Bing for people who want to use Cortana.  I would rather do a little typing and use the browser I want and the search engine I want.  Microsoft is giving Windows away for now but they are doing so to make money from users.  This is one way they are doing so. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?