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Re: new member with tons of question on NVDA.

Jackie
 

Since you're running Windows 10, Jim, the default synth is 1 core now.
You'll like it better, I believe

Some resources for you are:
http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials/
The user guide is in the NVDA help menu, ie, nvda+n, then h, then hit
enter on u for user guide. There is also a command quick reference,
accessed similarly to the userguide, but press q instead of u. These
are all free. NV Access also sells some training materials, available
at:
https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Buying them helps support the project.
HTH.

On 7/8/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi


Have you already got a copy of nvda already? if not you will need to get a
copy from http://www.nvaccess.org

It can be found under the downloads section.


To get into the preferences of NVDA after it has been started it is the nvda
key + letter N then arrow down to help and a sub menu will come off it that
is where you will find the user manual.


If nvda is not running it is the alt key +ctrl key + the letter N to start
your copy of nvda.


To quit your copy of nvda it is the nvda key + letter q.


Where i refer to the nvda key this is a modifier key and can be the insert
key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key.


You would use what ever one you chose to say quit nvda for example insert
key + letter Q


For windows 10 users now the default voice i think is set to windows one
core voices.


Otherwise earlier than that is e speak which i use all the time.


Just to give you the heads up also when you go into the preferences part of
nvda then arrow right it will now take you into the settings. Here you can
arrow down and up these sections.


To go into any of the sections use the tab key and tab through each part of
that section. You will see what i mean.


You can also use other sapi 4 and 5 voices along if you want to pay for
either vocaliser or eloquence voice not charged by nvaccess.


If you grab it from the website after it has been downloaded and the file
clicked on and started it has a talking installer. You will need to agree to
the documentation then after that it will give you 3 options one to install
to your pc, the second to make a portable copy and the third to run as a
temp copy pick the first option and follow directions to install it to your
pc.


If a UAC screen comes up for security use the alt key + letter Y to allow
nvda to be installed to your pc.


I do have other material on how to use nvda on my website if you are
interested but is only for a desk top user both in audio and written.

Gene nz


On 7/9/2018 11:01 AM, Jim Rawls wrote:
Hi all,
I tried downloading NVDA once a couple years ago, and couldn’t stand that
double ugly voice that came out of my computer when I tried to do what I was
supposed to do to get things going. So, first question. What’s the easiest
way to download the latest version of NVDA? Second. How do I learn the
commands to make it work? And finally how do I get rid of that terrible
voice and get one I can understand and tolerate? I am running windows ten,
and jaws 2018. Jim





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Re: new member with tons of question on NVDA.

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Have you already got a copy of nvda already? if not you will need to get a copy from http://www.nvaccess.org

It can be found under the downloads section.


To get into the preferences of NVDA after it has been started it is the nvda key + letter N then arrow down to help and a sub menu will come off it that is where you will find the user manual.


If nvda is not running it is the alt key +ctrl key + the letter N to start your copy of nvda.


To quit your copy of nvda it is the nvda key + letter q.


Where i refer to the nvda key this is a modifier key and can be the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key.


You would use what ever one you chose to say quit nvda for example insert key + letter Q


For windows 10 users now the default voice i think is set to windows one core voices.


Otherwise earlier than that is e speak which i use all the time.


Just to give you the heads up also when you go into the preferences part of nvda then arrow right it will now take you into the settings. Here you can arrow down and up these sections.


To go into any of the sections use the tab key and tab through each part of that section. You will see what i mean.


You can also use other sapi 4 and 5 voices along if you want to pay for either vocaliser or eloquence voice not charged by nvaccess.


If you grab it from the website after it has been downloaded and the file clicked on and started it has a talking installer. You will need to agree to the documentation then after that it will give you 3 options one to install to your pc, the second to make a portable copy and the third to run as a temp copy pick the first option and follow directions to install it to your pc.


If a UAC screen comes up for security use the alt key + letter Y to allow nvda to be installed to your pc.


I do have other material on how to use nvda on my website if you are interested but is only for a desk top user both in audio and written.

Gene nz



On 7/9/2018 11:01 AM, Jim Rawls wrote:

Hi all,

I tried downloading NVDA once a couple years ago, and couldn’t stand that double ugly voice that came out of my computer when I tried to do what I was supposed to do to get things going. So, first question. What’s the easiest way to download the latest version of NVDA? Second. How do I learn the commands to make it work? And finally how do I get rid  of that terrible voice and get one I can understand and tolerate? I am running windows ten, and jaws 2018. Jim



Re: new member with tons of question on NVDA.

Monte Single
 

Hi Jim,

 

The ugly voice is e speak.

To get a new voice;

 

Open the nvda menu with insert+n,

Arrow down to preferences submenu,

Choose synthesyzer,

You will find a sapi  choice ther,, choose it with eenter,

Open preferences again,

Now arrow down to voices,

Chose a   voice you  like,  hit enter,

Open  nvda  menus again  and  choose save changes on exit.

 

This should work, if it does not, I know there are  people on this list who will help further.

 

Just about all the basic commands for working  with menus, docs and reading and avigating text are the same as jaws.

 

You will not be disappointed.!!

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: July-08-18 5:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new member with tons of question on NVDA.

 

Hi all,

I tried downloading NVDA once a couple years ago, and couldn’t stand that double ugly voice that came out of my computer when I tried to do what I was supposed to do to get things going. So, first question. What’s the easiest way to download the latest version of NVDA? Second. How do I learn the commands to make it work? And finally how do I get rid  of that terrible voice and get one I can understand and tolerate? I am running windows ten, and jaws 2018. Jim


new member with tons of question on NVDA.

Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
 

Hi all,

I tried downloading NVDA once a couple years ago, and couldn’t stand that double ugly voice that came out of my computer when I tried to do what I was supposed to do to get things going. So, first question. What’s the easiest way to download the latest version of NVDA? Second. How do I learn the commands to make it work? And finally how do I get rid  of that terrible voice and get one I can understand and tolerate? I am running windows ten, and jaws 2018. Jim


Re: Working with Macros in Excel Spreadsheets?

Craig
 

Hi.

Without looking at your example I would use a vlookup formula

Cheers
C

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Monday, 9 July 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Working with Macros in Excel Spreadsheets?

Hi all. Just trying to figure something out... in a workbook I'm reading for a menu guide for an audio device, there are combo boxes to select the different menus which I want to be displayed as tables.
However when I make my selections, even though the combo boxes are accurately reflecting my changes, the tables don't switch and stay at defaults. Is there something I am missing? Or is there another program I can use to accomplish other than excel 2016? The document is below just for reference in case someone wants to see what I mean. Thanks!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tacwsjzbne56a6h/GR-55-Settings.xlsm?dl=0


Working with Macros in Excel Spreadsheets?

Clement Chou
 

Hi all. Just trying to figure something out... in a workbook I'm
reading for a menu guide for an audio device, there are combo boxes to
select the different menus which I want to be displayed as tables.
However when I make my selections, even though the combo boxes are
accurately reflecting my changes, the tables don't switch and stay at
defaults. Is there something I am missing? Or is there another program
I can use to accomplish other than excel 2016? The document is below
just for reference in case someone wants to see what I mean. Thanks!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tacwsjzbne56a6h/GR-55-Settings.xlsm?dl=0


Re: Speech Stopping

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

actually, I finally figured out how to reply online. I was pressing E to get into the appropriate field, and although I could get to the subject field, I couldn't get into the message area. However, I found that if I press tab several times after pressing reply, I can get into the message area. It's clunky but doable.

As for my infrequent speech issue, I mostly use Vocalizer, but I've also noticed this with Eloquence. Thanks.


Re: Speech Stopping

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Okay, if that happens again, I'll give it a try. Like I said, it doesn't happen very often. Thanks.


Re: Question regarding NVDA and speaking message columns in Outlook

Jonathan COHN
 

Was this done by reducing the number of columns in your Outlook view? In JAWS the column that indicates an attachment is present in a message is only spoken when there is actually an attachment. Also, the status column is not spoken for messages that have been read and no other action has occurred on the message.

Thanks,

Jonathan Cohn
 


Re: Can't uise the NVDA menus

Sarah k Alawami
 

They are not confusing at all actually. They remind me of several standard dialogues I’ve ben dealign wiht for years and most mac menu structures and settings. It’s quite easy actually, at least for me.

On Jul 8, 2018, at 8:10 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> wrote:

I found that I wasn't using the NVDA menus properly. I find them confusing.

John
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 09:59:13AM +0100,
Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io wrote:
Have you tried creating a portable version on the hard drive and using that
just to see. i fully realise that some things are not readable with a
portable version but it might point to where the issue is. If it is a copy
made from the one that fails, assuming of course it works enough to allow
you to do this, then a finger might point to the issue rather better.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 6:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Can't uise the NVDA menus


Hello,

I am using an Acer Swift 3 notebook with Windows 10 home and NVDA
2017.1.1. Either the configuration or NVDA itself has
become corrupted. Many menu items don't work and it is delivering messages
about no headings at Level 1. I can't reset
it to factory defaults, assuming that works, because it would go to no
Braille and I couldn't use the machine at all.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
John

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Re: Download tech support

 

Hi,

Yes:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tage Johansson
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 9:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Download tech support

 

Hi!
Is it possible to download the tech support webinar provided by Joseph Lee as mp3?
Best
Tage!


Download tech support

Tage Johansson
 

Hi!
Is it possible to download the tech support webinar provided by Joseph Lee as mp3?
Best
Tage!


Re: Can't uise the NVDA menus

Jason White
 

And I would suggest making sure that you're running NVDA 2018.2 before writing a review, since there is now a new Preferences dialog that replaces the old Preferences menu.

On 7/8/18, 11:18, "Antony Stone" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

If you could give a little more detail about how you find the menus confusing,
or what you think might work better, this could be useful feedback for either
the developers and/or the authors of tutorials and help guides.

You're clearly no newcomer to NVDA (I've seen postings on the list from you
for at least 4 years), so any comments about how you think the system could be
improved are potentially valuable.


Antony.

On Sunday 08 July 2018 at 17:10:01, John J. Boyer wrote:

> I found that I wasn't using the NVDA menus properly. I find them confusing.
>
> John

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Re: Can't uise the NVDA menus

Antony Stone
 

If you could give a little more detail about how you find the menus confusing,
or what you think might work better, this could be useful feedback for either
the developers and/or the authors of tutorials and help guides.

You're clearly no newcomer to NVDA (I've seen postings on the list from you
for at least 4 years), so any comments about how you think the system could be
improved are potentially valuable.


Antony.

On Sunday 08 July 2018 at 17:10:01, John J. Boyer wrote:

I found that I wasn't using the NVDA menus properly. I find them confusing.

John
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The first logician says "I don't know."
The second logician says "I don't know."
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Re: Can't uise the NVDA menus

John J. Boyer
 

I found that I wasn't using the NVDA menus properly. I find them confusing.

John
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 09:59:13AM +0100,
Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io wrote:

Have you tried creating a portable version on the hard drive and using that
just to see. i fully realise that some things are not readable with a
portable version but it might point to where the issue is. If it is a copy
made from the one that fails, assuming of course it works enough to allow
you to do this, then a finger might point to the issue rather better.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer"
<john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 6:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] Can't uise the NVDA menus


Hello,

I am using an Acer Swift 3 notebook with Windows 10 home and NVDA
2017.1.1. Either the configuration or NVDA itself has
become corrupted. Many menu items don't work and it is delivering messages
about no headings at Level 1. I can't reset
it to factory defaults, assuming that works, because it would go to no
Braille and I couldn't use the machine at all.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
John

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website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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services
that are available at no cost






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Re: Troubles with the last update

 

Thanks

Em 08/07/2018 10:24, Mohamed escreveu:

There was an issue that caused a beta to be inadvertently offered to stable users. Just redownload 2018.2.1 and that sound should go away.


On 7/8/2018 8:40 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Just a mistake here.
Correcting the link...
This is the correct link.
Em 08/07/2018 09:34, marcio via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hello guys,
I updated my NVDA just now and since the  update I'm having a strange problem that didn't happen to me in a long time.
I'm good, navigating through any website, when suddenly my NVDA make this sound.
you can try to reproduce the sound from this link.
It's called "error", so I guess I'm having some error, of course. But what kind of error and how to solve it, that's the question I can't answer on my own.
So if someone could help me with this problem I'll appreciate.

Thanks in advance
Marcio




Re: Troubles with the last update

Mohamed
 

There was an issue that caused a beta to be inadvertently offered to stable users. Just redownload 2018.2.1 and that sound should go away.


On 7/8/2018 8:40 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Just a mistake here.
Correcting the link...
This is the correct link.
Em 08/07/2018 09:34, marcio via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hello guys,
I updated my NVDA just now and since the  update I'm having a strange problem that didn't happen to me in a long time.
I'm good, navigating through any website, when suddenly my NVDA make this sound.
you can try to reproduce the sound from this link.
It's called "error", so I guess I'm having some error, of course. But what kind of error and how to solve it, that's the question I can't answer on my own.
So if someone could help me with this problem I'll appreciate.

Thanks in advance
Marcio



Re: Troubles with the last update

 

Just a mistake here.
Correcting the link...
This is the correct link.
Em 08/07/2018 09:34, marcio via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hello guys,
I updated my NVDA just now and since the  update I'm having a strange problem that didn't happen to me in a long time.
I'm good, navigating through any website, when suddenly my NVDA make this sound.
you can try to reproduce the sound from this link.
It's called "error", so I guess I'm having some error, of course. But what kind of error and how to solve it, that's the question I can't answer on my own.
So if someone could help me with this problem I'll appreciate.

Thanks in advance
Marcio


Troubles with the last update

 

Hello guys,
I updated my NVDA just now and since the  update I'm having a strange problem that didn't happen to me in a long time.
I'm good, navigating through any website, when suddenly my NVDA make this sound.
you can try to reproduce the sound from this link.
It's called "error", so I guess I'm having some error, of course. But what kind of error and how to solve it, that's the question I can't answer on my own.
So if someone could help me with this problem I'll appreciate.

Thanks in advance
Marcio


Re: Speech Stopping

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The way to get to the temp folder easily.
Start run and type
%temp%
and return.
If you are constantly needing a log from a version of nvda use a batch file to close and reopen it loading the log into the notepad when you do so.

Here is what I use. Not to disagree with Joseph, but I find it easier for myself, and he is talking about how to tell others with one off problems how to proceed.

===
@echo off
cd "%temp%"
start /WAIT nvda.exe -q

start notepad.exe nvda.log
rem, this line just kicks its heels for a bit to make sure the log is loaded into notepad before rebooting nvda.
ping -n 5 127.0.0.1>nul
start nvda.exe

exit

===

I'll go get my coat...
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <abletec@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech Stopping


Abbie, for my next assignment in 2 weeks w/Joseph's tech support
session, I'm supposed to get log files of users who are having
difficulty & see if I can decipher them & figure out the problem. So,
when that happens, can you press NVDA+f1, ctrl+a to select all
characters, ctrl+c to copy, & then send it me. Or it's in
c:\users\username\AppData\local\temp\nvda.log, which u can just
attach. If you have to restart NVDA, then it's in
c:\users\username\appdata\local\temp\nvda-old.log.

Thanks for help w/my homework! Lol. Meanwhile, let's see if that might
actually help troubleshoot your issues, & maybe Mark's as well.

On 7/7/18, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
Please forgive me for starting a new thread on the same topic Mark posted
about yesterday. I'm subscribed to this list in daily summary mode, since I
don't always have time to read all messages that flood my in box.
Unfortunately, I have difficulty replying to messages online. This is
somewhat more doable on my PC, but right now, I'm using my BrailleNote
Touch, and the edit field for replies doesn't appear after I click on the
Reply link. I've emailed support@groups@io about this.

That said, I'm also experiencing the same issue that Mark is having with
speech stopping. In my case, it only happens occasionally, and when it does,
my BrailleNote Touch is connected as a display, and I'm either in Word or
Thunderbird. The only way I can get everything to work properly again is to
shut down NVDA, disconnect and re-connect my BrailleNote Touch, and re-start
NVDA. As I said, this doesn't happen often, but I thought I would let you
all know, anyway, for what it's worth.

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
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