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Re: browsing with edge,

 

Hmmm what are those settings pete.

On 22/05/2016 12:04 p.m., Pete wrote:

There are some settings to go directly to the desktop after boot, and
a few other settings you may find helpful. The main settings applet is
p c settings.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 6:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that
much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just
need to get used to it.



On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account
thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little
bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use
Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most
other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to
install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since
they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic
98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the
same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies
107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird






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Re: New Member

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi Jolene

I 2 am learning windows 10 currently. Just a preference of mine, I think of the start screen as a desktop if you will, I unpin all the junk that's up there and then go in to the apps list and pin only what I want or use there. I don't care for the ribbon menus or the new file manager, on one hand it's simple to use windows 10, but then Microsoft threw in a complicated menu system, well, may be not so complicated if one can look and click on things. It reminds me of the old low powered computers that used basic HTML to access files on a main frame or some thing.

Lot's of luck to you!

Pete

On 5/21/2016 10:46 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.



Re: New Member

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi jolene, welcome to the list. I will be gald to help you anwser any questions you may have about using windows 10 with nvda.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

On 5/21/2016 10:46 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: New Member

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi Jolene,
Welcome to the group. I can't offer any information on Windows 10, but I'll offer any help I can.
Chris


Re: New Member

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Aloha miss Jolene. We are more than happy to help. I've been using NVDA full time since 2011. If you need help ask.

On 5/21/2016 10:46 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


New Member

Jolene Cardenas
 

Hello everyone,

I just joined this group a week or so ago, and I'm visually-impaired
and from Honolulu, Hawaii.
More importantly, I had started using NVDA during the summer of 2015
and to this day I find that I like it far better than JAWS, the latter
which I had used since the late 90's. In february of this year, I got
a new Asus laptop that has Windows 10 Home as its operating system.

The main reason why I had joined this group is to be in touch with
other users of NVDA with Windows 10, because I had used Windows 7
Professional before I had to teach myself how to use Windows 10. It's
still a struggle for me, so I could sure use some feedback!

Take care, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: browsing with edge,

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Gene dude there is no such thing as privacy anymore unless you go ahead and snip off your ethernet CAT5 cable or turn off wifi which means you are offline. Don't know how or really care how MS collects my INFO and use on my WIN 10 PC. I do however hope they can emplement user CTRL in installing updates. Only choices we have now is setting WIN t to download updates if you hyave a metered connection which I don't or automatically update. I know some people are anal about what's being updated.


On 5/21/2016 9:10 PM, Gene wrote:
I hope you read my previous message.  Are you aware of the concerns I've discussed as well as others I haven't?  Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to attack those who have valid well-thought-out reasons not to upgrade.  I see nothing in Windows 10 that I want enough to cause me to spend the time and the possible unforeseen problems, to update.  I'll get Windows 10 in the same way I've3 gotten earlier versions of Windows.  When I purchase a new computer with Windows 10 on it.  Also, keep in mind that Microsoft isn't giving away Windows 10 because it is an altruistic company.  They are giving it away so they can make more money from users in various ways.  I'm not saying this is not a reason to use Windows 10 but I find it offensivbe that Microsoft uses Windows 10, I don't recall just where, perhaps on the desktop, perhaps on the start menu, to show advertisements.  there are reasons to use Windows 10 and reasons not to do so. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Amen to that, Lino. Some people need to grow up and act like adults.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.



On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:


Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are <http://www.woldradio.com> www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and <http://www.magic983.com> www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?











Re: browsing with edge,

Gene
 

I hope you read my previous message.  Are you aware of the concerns I've discussed as well as others I haven't?  Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to attack those who have valid well-thought-out reasons not to upgrade.  I see nothing in Windows 10 that I want enough to cause me to spend the time and the possible unforeseen problems, to update.  I'll get Windows 10 in the same way I've3 gotten earlier versions of Windows.  When I purchase a new computer with Windows 10 on it.  Also, keep in mind that Microsoft isn't giving away Windows 10 because it is an altruistic company.  They are giving it away so they can make more money from users in various ways.  I'm not saying this is not a reason to use Windows 10 but I find it offensivbe that Microsoft uses Windows 10, I don't recall just where, perhaps on the desktop, perhaps on the start menu, to show advertisements.  there are reasons to use Windows 10 and reasons not to do so. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Amen to that, Lino. Some people need to grow up and act like adults.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.



On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:


Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are <http://www.woldradio.com> www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and <http://www.magic983.com> www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?










Re: browsing with edge,

Gene
 

People aren't saying the entire operating system is bad.  The message said sounds like another reason not to upgrade.  Like it or not, there are legitimate concerns about Windows 10.  Forced security updates make sense.  Forced driver updates cause continuing problems for some users.  I know of one user who cannot use the Microsoft drivers for a sound card.  Yet every time he installs another driver that works, Microsoft replaces it. 
 
There are privacy concerns about the amount of data Windows 10 collects.  I've read about some other concerns.  Whether those concerns are things that will give people pause when deciding whether to upgrade is up to the individual. 
 
But Windows 10 is not the ideal operating system.  It has many features many people like.  But you appear either not to know about them or to dismiss them.  They are valid concerns.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 



Re: browsing with edge,

Pete <emac00@...>
 

There are some settings to go directly to the desktop after boot, and a few other settings you may find helpful. The main settings applet is p c settings.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 6:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just need to get used to it.



On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird






.


Re: browsing with edge,

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Amen to that, Lino. Some people need to grow up and act like adults.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.



On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:


Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows 10.

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be two of these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,


Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are <http://www.woldradio.com> www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and <http://www.magic983.com> www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com> for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: browsing with edge,

 

AAh yeah I agree on search even in 7 I havn't used file search that much unless I have a large list.
Ok so maybe I need to practice the start menu a bit more maybe I just need to get used to it.

On 21/05/2016 9:51 p.m., Pete wrote:

hi Shaun

The apps thing is a big list of all the programs installed on your
computer. You can navigate using down and up arrow keys. Use the
application key for pinning to start screen / etc. I like the start
screen, kind of like a second desktop. I unpinned every thing from it
and just pinned what I wanted up there. I just have recycle bin on the
desktop. Recycle bin can be hidden or removed from the desktop I think.

I don't care for the file manager with the search! I mean come on how
many search boxes do we really need?

I'll even go as far as I like the start screen better than the start
menus from 98 and up. It's the greatest thing m s has done in a long
while.

Pete

On 5/21/2016 3:24 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I upgraded 1 machine to 10 that I have access to.
Here is where I stand with 10.
When I do eventually upgrade I am confident that with all the advances
with features, lockscreens, and other things that I can probably use
10 at least the desktop with vary little modification to the registry.
While now that the system has done with indexing I can do single
letter search in start and it actually comes up fine.
3. I am confidant that with all the things ms has at least for the
desktop I will be fine.
5. I know some of my way round bits of the new ribbon.
6. I am sure with ribbon disabler, and classic shell I may be able to
make it look 7 like.
6. I think I am getting used to the task manager bits of action
centre and settings.
What I havn't figured out are the apps just yet or the ms account thing.
I think in the short term if I need to I will be able to use 10
without any real issue.



On 21/05/2016 9:31 a.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
i am positibve that all will be working well within the next little bit,
as in maybe the next few official win 10 updates. Ms keeps saying by
the end of this year.
So let's all hope so.

Scott
Original message:
I found Edge very annoying, too, when I first upgraded to Windows 10.
Although I would set Firefox as default it would still popup as
settings. I tried to uninstall it but could not. I took it to a
computer shop and they at least they got rid of the settings popup. I
avoid using Cortana just because of Edge. Google is my homepage and
search engine.
On 5/20/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of
whether you
had a choice before. Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge
regardless of what is set as the default browser. There may only be
two of
these things. I know one had something to do with search, perhaps
searching
somehow in the start menu. Whatever the case, if you set another
browser as
the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no
choice
but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser
you want
to use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Greetings,
I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when
it is
launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default
but it
comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely
disabled it?
I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with
Flash
player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a
different
interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all
sorts of
things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot
more
add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people
can use.
I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use
it. I
don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this
feature.
It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on
some or
many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard
since
the mid-nineties.

Gene


From: P. Otter
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


ofr me it's the same!
chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other
browsers.
google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install
for
example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.
cheers
paul otter


----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that
aren't
links


Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now
use it
as my default browser


On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or
Mozilla
firefox.


From: ken lawrence via Groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't
links


Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio
stations
namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen
live. on
WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading,
but not
as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.
this is
the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they
have
change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.
they have
changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream
appear as
a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the
problem
is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned
stations
you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3
additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ,
Pa area.
same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same
condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have
tried on
three different browsers to log into the station and the listen
live is
nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links
connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the
word
play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser
with
NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when
entered the
stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no
such
thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on
the right
edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters
of both
radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music
club
member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9
and
www.magic983.com for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can
advise on
this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?






--
We have probed the Earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from
it, buried things in it... That does not fit my definition of a good
tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been
evicted long ago.
-Rose Bird





.


Re: browsing with edge,

Chris
 

totally agree with you there
 



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: 21 May 2016 21:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 



Re: browsing with edge,

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Robert is correct Rosemarie.


On 5/20/2016 8:58 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

hello, Rosemary!

I think you would need to have an MS account in order to log in and use Cortana Or, I may say to rather to create one to use it specifically for Cortana

Robert Mendoza
On 5/21/2016 8:44 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, David,

Don't you have to have a microsoft account to use Cortana? I just bought myself a computer microphone and am thinking of trying her out.

Rosemarie
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

Hi Gene,
Cortana results come up in Edge regardless of which browser you have set as your default. Good News! NVDA can access the information in Edge that Cortana gives you when you talk to her. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so we should all take advantage of her on our win10 computers. For example, I ask cortana to give me the baseball scores, and Cortana said the scores of the games that were live at that time. However, I used NVDA just with the arrow keys to read all of the scores, final or for games that were still being played. This is powerful. I asked Cortana to give me information on the election, and Cortana read an article to me, but there were many more articls to read in the results in Edge. It is really time to take Cortana seriously, because we can already use her to do more than Siri can do. This is why it is important to read those results in the Edge browser, and guess what? NVDA can access Edge five times better than JAWS. I use both screen readers, and JAWS cannot do anything with Edge like NVDA can. Take care, and love Edge, because that is the only browser that Cortana can put her results in, and that information is indeed accessible with NVDA. Take care, all.
 
 
From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pascal Lambert <mailto:casablanca_31@...>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene

 

From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

	To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

	Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

	Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



	Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser



	On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

		That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

		 

		From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

		Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

		To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

		Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

		 

		Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com>  for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com>  for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?











Re: browsing with edge,

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Just because Edge isn't yet accessible to us screen readers yet doesn't mean WIN 10 is not bad. I'm actually getting sick and tired of seeing comments like this on this list. Just because 1 piece of software doesn't work don't mean the whole OS is crap. Grow up you all and do your research befor upgrading or buying a WIN 10 PC.


On 5/20/2016 5:31 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
Sounds like another reason not to upgrade to windows  10.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 
There are certain things that only work with Edge regardless of whether you had a choice before.  Recently, Microsoft made certain things use Edge regardless of what is set as the default browser.  There may only be two of these things.  I know one had something to do with search, perhaps searching somehow in the start menu.  Whatever the case, if you set another browser as the default and something brings up Edge, then you probably have no choice but to do whatever you want to do directly from within the browser you want to use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,
 

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly? 

 



Re: next release of nvda:

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

When the rest of the world knows. Stay tuned here and at:

www.nvaccess.org/


On 5/20/2016 3:25 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi when will the next version of nvda be released?

Kenny Peyattt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Weather+ NVDA add-on required

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
I am looking for the Weather+ NVDA add-on, which still works as
opposed to the currently non-functional Weather+ add-on.
I believe it is available on NVDA's Italian website, i.e. nvda.it, but
it seems that this website is down at the moment.
Therefore, it would be really appreciated if someone could upload the
NVDA add-on package of Weather+ and share its download link.
I woudl appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: browsing with edge,

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Well as far as I know there is no menu as of yet

On 5/21/2016 3:50 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't tried edge in awhile. I too was wondering how to get to the menu.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

The alt key does not work only the tab key works. When red stone comes out Microsoft says things will get better than they are now. Just don't give up.



On 5/21/2016 12:21 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:


Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge. Please, how does one access the pull down menus in Edge? I keep hitting the “alt-key” and nothing happens. Is there another way in Edge? All the alt key commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge. Please advise. Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the default each time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,



Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.





From: Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,



Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.



Regards,

Greg Wocher



On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and <http://www.magic983.com> www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com> for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?











Re: browsing with edge,

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't tried edge in awhile. I too was wondering how to get to the menu.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

The alt key does not work only the tab key works. When red stone comes out Microsoft says things will get better than they are now. Just don't give up.



On 5/21/2016 12:21 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:


Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge. Please, how does one access the pull down menus in Edge? I keep hitting the “alt-key” and nothing happens. Is there another way in Edge? All the alt key commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge. Please advise. Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the default each time.

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,



Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.





From: Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,



Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.



Regards,

Greg Wocher



On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched. I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations. Is there a way to completely disabled it? I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely. Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



There is more than just speed to consider. Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface. Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages. Firefox has a lot more add ons. Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use. I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it. I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature.

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items. That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties.


Gene



From: P. Otter <mailto:pam.otter@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

cheers

paul otter



----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby <mailto:bvinton@...>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well. I now use it as my default browser



On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.



From: ken lawrence via Groups.io <mailto:kenlawrence124@...>

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links



Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem. on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live. on WOLD the problem is simpler. the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live. this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player. they have changed stream providors. what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live? then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger. in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs. in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area. same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ. must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker. I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere. no button, no links, no graphics. there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream. didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing. so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field. so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations? especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member? the websites for both are www.woldradio.com <http://www.woldradio.com> for oldies 107.9 and <http://www.magic983.com> www.magic983.com <http://www.magic983.com> for WMGQ. perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one. is it a fix on my end possibly?


Re: browsing with edge,

Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks for your reply.  How does one get to the menus?  Is there a list of shortcuts?

Appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

The alt key does not work only the tab key works.  When red stone comes out Microsoft says things will get better than they are now.  Just don't give up.

 

On 5/21/2016 12:21 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Thanks everybody for the info on using Edge.  Please, how does one access the pull down menus in Edge?  I keep hitting the “alt-key” and nothing happens.   Is there another way in Edge?  All the alt key commands of IE seem to be deactivated when I launch Edge.  Please advise.  Also, I have a set home page, Edge ignores it and goes to the default each time.

Many thanks. 

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hi,

I urge you to get the NvDA add on, Windows 10 app assentials. This add on makes NVDA able to access all of the results of Cortana in Edge. Cortana can already do much more than Siri on an iPhone, so I really encourage you to give Cortana and Edge to get her results another try after you install the NVDA add on Windows 10 app assentials that Joseph Lee programs. Using Cortana and accessing the results with NvDA already makes me much more efficient with doing my work. You do not have to do a lot of browsing to find what you want, because Cortana does such a good job of narrowing down what you need and you can read the results right away in Edge and totally access it with NVDA. I just want you to know how much I am getting out of Cortana and Edge by installing that add on to NVDA. Take care.

 

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge,

 

Hello,

Unfortunately there is not a way to disable edge entirely. There are times when it will automatically be used no matter what you have your default browser set to. One instance that comes to mind is when doing a search with Kortana. The search results will always come up in edge.

 

Regards,

Greg Wocher

 

On 5/20/2016 4:12 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Greetings,

I find Edge very slow, it takes few mins to have voice feedback when it is launched.  I tried to get rid of it and make Firefox the default but it comes back in certain situations.  Is there a way to completely disabled it?  I prefer using Firefox even though lately it is having problem with Flash player acting strangely.  Any suggestions on these issues is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

There is more than just speed to consider.  Firefox still uses a different interface and it is a more convenient interface.  Chrome shows all sorts of things such as history and settings as web pages.  Firefox has a lot more add ons.  Firefox has a document reading feature that blind people can use.  I tried using a Chrome add on for this purpose and I couldn't use it.  I don't know if there are other Chrome add ons that implement this feature. 

It appears to me that Chrome hasn't even put short cut commands on some or many of its menu items.  That sore of thing is and has been standard since the mid-nineties. 


Gene

 

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

ofr me it's the same!

chrome is in the most situations nice and quick, more than most other browsers.

google has made accessibility extentions it is recommanded to install for example the extention that let you navigate with the arrow keys.

 cheers

paul otter

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hay very good news google crome is now accessible as well.  I now use it as my default browser

 

On 5/20/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:

That browser is not fully accessible. Use internet explorer or Mozilla firefox.

 

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM

Subject: [nvda] browsing with edge, and finding links that aren't links

 

Hi listers ken here have a vexing problem.  on two local radio stations namely WOLD-lp, and WMGQ in NJ I can’t seem to find the listen live.  on WOLD the problem is simpler.  the listen live appears as a heading, but not as a link, clickable graphic or button just the words listen live.  this is the only way to listen to the station without tunein radio since they have change from a winamp based stream to a flash based popup player.  they have changed stream providors.  what must they do to make there stream appear as a link and not just the words listen live?  then on Magic 98.3 the problem is even stranger.  in order to listen to all greater-media owned stations you must register for their listener clubs.  in the case of magic 98.3 additionally you are only able to listen to them if you live in NJ, Pa area.  same with active rock station WDHA in dover NJ.  must assume the same condition is true with WRAT the jersey shore based rocker.  I have tried on three different browsers to log into the station and the listen live is nowhere.  no button, no links, no graphics.  there are listen links connected to interviews/features but not the stream.  didn’t try the word play but no play buttons exist then just now using the edge browser with NVDA clearly hit the letter f found the edit field, but when entered the stupid site thought Oh you searched for your email address, sorry no such thing.  so edge is obviously out since NVDA can’t seem to focus on the right edit field.  so my question is this, how do I advise the webmasters of both radio stations?  especially magic 98.3 since I’m technically a music club member?  the websites for both are www.woldradio.com for oldies 107.9 and www.magic983.com for WMGQ.  perhaps someone with partial sight can advise on this one.  is it a fix on my end possibly?