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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Richard Bartholomew
 

Hi, Claire

As you intend to be editing the recording anyway, I would suggest just using the editing program to do all your recording in the first place as, in my view, using Station Playlist for part of it is introducing unnecessary complications, not to mention expense! Something like Goldwave or Audacity should meet your needs perfectly well.

Regards
Richard Bartholomew

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: 10 July 2018 16:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of
NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of
NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would
like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice
and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own
podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains
how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help?
-- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/











Re: FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi,
As for subscribing to that mailing list: send an email to:
nvda-spl+subscribe@nvda-spl.groups.io
But before joining that list, consider what folks here have said about this program and think if you truly need this program for your needs; based on what you told us, an audio editor (not Studio) might be what you need in the end, but there might be a time in the future where you may wish to use Studio for some reason. I myself don't use Studio (I use GoldWave for all my audio editing needs), but I maintain the Studio add-on as I'm interested in broadcasting and learned a great deal about ins and outs of that work from broadcasters who use my add-on (as well as to practice programming skills learned in college; and no, I confess that Studio add-on is not the most powerful add-on ever created - that honor belongs to Remote Support add-on, in my opinion, and among the add-ons I introduced, I think Windows 10 App Essentials is the most powerful one I ever created).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi,
There's a lot more involved than pressing F9 to start an encoder (brings me memories of working on encoder support for months in 2014 and 2015). Pressing F9 is not the first, nor the final step in producing a really good sounding podcast - encoder must be set up, having precise control over when to start and stop the encoder, locating where files are stored and so on (in short, producing a podcast (or for that matter, professional recording) requires a lot of dedication and attention to detail; it took me two hours to produce a two-minute promo for NVDACon 2018 keynote this year).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, that does help so thank you for that. I do have your addon installed, but what I don't get is when I go into station playlist is it really as simple as pressing f9 to start and f10 to stop, or is there more to it? Also, how do I subscribe to the other mailing list?

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 19:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
See a response from a seasoned broadcaster below.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io <nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:11 AM
To: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the
latest version of NVDA

You need to make what they call a dummy encoder. This will record the file as an mp3 when you press f9. Keep in mind you will not be live unless you want that to be the case. F10 will stop the encoder. If your just going to rerecord the show, then the option above about not going live will work.

Duyahn


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda-spl@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:13 AM
Subject: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest
version of NVDA


Hi,
Is there anyone here using Studio for producing podcasts? I never come across that possibility, otherwise I would have recommended Claire to get my add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/













tutorial for edge and facebook

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

 

Does anyone know if there is a tutorial for using edge with facebook and nvda?  Thanks for any help.

 

Regards, Gary KN4Ox

Send to: gmtravel@...

 


Re: FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi,
There's a lot more involved than pressing F9 to start an encoder (brings me memories of working on encoder support for months in 2014 and 2015). Pressing F9 is not the first, nor the final step in producing a really good sounding podcast - encoder must be set up, having precise control over when to start and stop the encoder, locating where files are stored and so on (in short, producing a podcast (or for that matter, professional recording) requires a lot of dedication and attention to detail; it took me two hours to produce a two-minute promo for NVDACon 2018 keynote this year).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, that does help so thank you for that. I do have your addon installed, but what I don't get is when I go into station playlist is it really as simple as pressing f9 to start and f10 to stop, or is there more to it? Also, how do I subscribe to the other mailing list?

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 19:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
See a response from a seasoned broadcaster below.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io <nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:11 AM
To: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the
latest version of NVDA

You need to make what they call a dummy encoder. This will record the file as an mp3 when you press f9. Keep in mind you will not be live unless you want that to be the case. F10 will stop the encoder. If your just going to rerecord the show, then the option above about not going live will work.

Duyahn


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda-spl@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:13 AM
Subject: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest
version of NVDA


Hi,
Is there anyone here using Studio for producing podcasts? I never come across that possibility, otherwise I would have recommended Claire to get my add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/













Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi,

This can be done in Audacity, GoldWave and other audio editors via “voiceover” and similar effects. You would first record your voice, find out how long your voice track is, load appropriate music, then mix them via this effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will mix in your voice track copied to the clipboard into your music). Similarly, for fade out, you can specify when the music should end and do either a crossfade, or let the music fade out and mix in your voice track (I can tell you, having done this work for ten years, it requires precise control in timing, dynamics (volume changes) and what not in order to achieve professional quality; my tutorial set (particularly Windows 10 audio guides) are good examples of this).

The biggest advantage of this method is that you can stay in just one program. The issue though is having precise control over the final audio cut.

 

On the other hand, you can do the same thing with StationPlaylist Studio with editing done via another program. For benefit of those who may not know how it can be done, here’s how:

  1. Load a bunch of tracks into Studio’s playlist viewer (the main window), including the background music.
  2. Set up a dummy encoder that’ll record things to mp3 files.
  3. Configure the microphone in Studio so music will fade (Studio Options page).
  4. Start the encoder.
  5. Switch to Studio’s playlist viewer, move down through the music beds, then press Enter to play each one.
  6. Speak to your microphone. Be sure to do it whenever you need to speak – doing this with mic on at all times may result in lower volume for the music bed.
  7. When you’re done, press S from Studio to stop with fade.
  8. With the recording done, turn off the dummy encoder.

 

The advantage of this approach is that it’ll feel like you’re doing a live broadcast.

The problems with this approach are:

  1. You need to have an idea as to which music beds to play (in other words, choose the playlist items carefully).
  2. You need to have precise control over when to turn on or off the microphone, as well as when to fade the music bed.
  3. You need to set up a dummy encoder for this purpose.
  4. The mp3 you’ll get is a rough cut, so you need to edit it with another program.

 

As for file formats to use when editing audio: as Sarah and others pointed out, it is best to use an uncompressed (pure) audio format such as wave (.wav) or FLAC (free lossless audio codec). I personally edit my files in .wav format, and once everything is in place, then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format) with reasonable quality.

In case you haven’t, I highly recommend talking to people such as Jonathan Mosen, Brian Hartgen, David Woodbridge and many others who are professors of audio editing from blindness perspective.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:

My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 

 

for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.

Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 

 

There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 

 

For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.

 

If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


 

 


Notepad++ addon

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

I have downloaded the notepad++ addon. I am having trouble getting it to install. It is downloaded as a .zip so I renamed the extension to .nvda-addon. After doing this it says it is missing a file when I try to install it. What might i do to try and fix this so the addon installs?


Greg WOcher


Re: FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi Joseph, that does help so thank you for that. I do have your addon installed, but what I don't get is when I go into station playlist is it really as simple as pressing f9 to start and f10 to stop, or is there more to it? Also, how do I subscribe to the other mailing list?

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 19:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
See a response from a seasoned broadcaster below.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io <nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io> On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:11 AM
To: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You need to make what they call a dummy encoder. This will record the file as an mp3 when you press f9. Keep in mind you will not be live unless you want that to be the case. F10 will stop the encoder. If your just going to rerecord the show, then the option above about not going live will work.

Duyahn


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda-spl@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:13 AM
Subject: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi,
Is there anyone here using Studio for producing podcasts? I never come across that possibility, otherwise I would have recommended Claire to get my add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/












FW: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi,
See a response from a seasoned broadcaster below.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io <nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io> On Behalf Of Duyahn Walker
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:11 AM
To: nvda-spl@nvda-spl.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You need to make what they call a dummy encoder. This will record the file as an mp3 when you press f9. Keep in mind you will not be live unless you want that to be the case. F10 will stop the encoder. If your just going to rerecord the show, then the option above about not going live will work.

Duyahn


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda-spl@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:13 AM
Subject: [nvda-spl] FW: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi,
Is there anyone here using Studio for producing podcasts? I never come across that possibility, otherwise I would have recommended Claire to get my add-on.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/


Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

I'll mostly let others discuss the best way to achieve that.  Since I haven't done that sort of thing, my instructional material has just been me talking and the screen-reader speaking, what I might suggest might not be the easiest or most efficient way to do what you want.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:
My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 
 
for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.
Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 
 
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.
 
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Why not just record yoru stuff, edit it then add the music later. I add about maybe 5 seconds of silence,  paste in about 7 seconds of music that will then faid out at the right time. Youcan do all of this in audacity by the way Or even goldwave.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:
My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 
 
for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.
Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 
 
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.
 
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:

My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 
 
for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.
Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 
 
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.
 
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 
 
for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.
Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 
 
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.
 
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know what the program you are asking about does or is used for.  .  It sounds to me as though you are considering using a much more complex program than is needed.  You can record the podcast and insert the gingles where needed.  If you wanbt to have talking with music under your talking, that may be more tricky, depending on if your sound card supports the what you hear option.  There is a program named virtual recorder that may let you do this because it allows you to record from what is known as loopback and also from a sound card simultaneously.  Or you could use a physical mixer.  I'm not sure where the best place would be for you to discuss such matters further.  There may be a blind audio list.  I'm not sure if a list devoted to use of one specific product would be a good resource or not.  It might be, but maybe there is a list where blind people who podcast help others.
 
If the program you want to use allows you to mix using the program itself and removes the considerations I've spoken of, such as whether your sound card has a Stereo Mix option or whether you have a physical mixer, then if you have the program, that might be the thing to use.  I'm just trying to avoid making assumptions in the discussion that cause other than the best advice.  In such discussions with a new podcast producer, I don't think anything should be assumed by anyone participating in the discussion.
 
I probably can't help much more.  I haven't made podcasts, though I've done some instructional material and that used a knowledge of recording similar to what would be needed for making at least simple podcasts and I know about recording in general.  But I haven't done anything complex in podcasts and, while I could do so, how I would do it might not be the easiest or most efficient ways so I'll leave future discussion to others for the most part.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, yes that's exactly what I want to do, a podcast that is mainly talking with some jingles and some music.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:51, Gene wrote:
What do you want to do?  Do you want to produce a simple podcast with just you talking and perhaps a little music at times or something much more complex?  I haven't used the program being discussed.  But there are a lot of recording programs.  Since you are new to recording, the first thing to do is find out just what you want to do.  all sorts of recording programs can save files as MP3.  It's the most widely used digital audio format and any standard recording program has a save as MP3 option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was
used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files
which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am
quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I
can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi Claire,
> Welcome to NVDA list.
> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I  would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Mark <mark@...>
 

Hi Clair,

You could do this using Audacity

And its free please find download link below

https://ninite.com/audacity/

also there are very good tutorials

witch can be found at

http://www.talking-computers.org.uk/feeds/tc.xml

you can record and edit with this package

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From: Claire Potter
Sent: 10 July 2018 17:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 

 

There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 

 

For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.

 

If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 
 
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.
 
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

It records in WMA.  You can't stop and then append.  It is not a program anyone but someone who wants to do the very most simple thing, push a button, record, push a button and stop, would use.  That's all it does.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Does Microsoft’s Recorder that comes in accessories keep recording until you stop it?

In older versions of Windows, it only recorded for something like 30 seconds.

But it is very easy to use and Microsoft has built-in keyboard commands for it.

I haven’t used it for a long time, but for something as simple as a podcast, it might be the simplest program to use.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

What do you want to do?  Do you want to produce a simple podcast with just you talking and perhaps a little music at times or something much more complex?  I haven't used the program being discussed.  But there are a lot of recording programs.  Since you are new to recording, the first thing to do is find out just what you want to do.  all sorts of recording programs can save files as MP3.  It's the most widely used digital audio format and any standard recording program has a save as MP3 option.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was
used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files
which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am
quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I
can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi Claire,
> Welcome to NVDA list.
> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I  would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 
 
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.
 
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi, yes that's exactly what I want to do, a podcast that is mainly talking with some jingles and some music.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:51, Gene wrote:

What do you want to do?  Do you want to produce a simple podcast with just you talking and perhaps a little music at times or something much more complex?  I haven't used the program being discussed.  But there are a lot of recording programs.  Since you are new to recording, the first thing to do is find out just what you want to do.  all sorts of recording programs can save files as MP3.  It's the most widely used digital audio format and any standard recording program has a save as MP3 option.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was
used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files
which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am
quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I
can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi Claire,
> Welcome to NVDA list.
> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I  would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Ervin, Glenn
 

Does Microsoft’s Recorder that comes in accessories keep recording until you stop it?

In older versions of Windows, it only recorded for something like 30 seconds.

But it is very easy to use and Microsoft has built-in keyboard commands for it.

I haven’t used it for a long time, but for something as simple as a podcast, it might be the simplest program to use.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

What do you want to do?  Do you want to produce a simple podcast with just you talking and perhaps a little music at times or something much more complex?  I haven't used the program being discussed.  But there are a lot of recording programs.  Since you are new to recording, the first thing to do is find out just what you want to do.  all sorts of recording programs can save files as MP3.  It's the most widely used digital audio format and any standard recording program has a save as MP3 option.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

 

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was
used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files
which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am
quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I
can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi Claire,
> Welcome to NVDA list.
> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I  would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

What do you want to do?  Do you want to produce a simple podcast with just you talking and perhaps a little music at times or something much more complex?  I haven't used the program being discussed.  But there are a lot of recording programs.  Since you are new to recording, the first thing to do is find out just what you want to do.  all sorts of recording programs can save files as MP3.  It's the most widely used digital audio format and any standard recording program has a save as MP3 option.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was
used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files
which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am
quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I
can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi Claire,
> Welcome to NVDA list.
> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I  would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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