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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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Goldwave has an auto voice over system so as long as you time the various parts and start at the right places you can in fact prerecord your spoken stuff and have goldwave duck the background in many ways while you speak.
To do the thing you are talking about to be honest, in real time a small hardware mixer is often better than software but it depends on how you want to work. Auto ducking of program content is often built in to things like disco mixers.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that. Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:
My messages may have more information than is helpful now. So
disregard them if they are. Once the discussion progresses further, I
may have more specific information about programs and editing as the
discussion progresses.
for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do,
so I'll ask this question.
Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just
speech with jingles at times in the program?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
of NVDA

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to
remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the
jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving
it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then
reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your
editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file
as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct
Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without
reencoding it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every
time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant
audio degredation.
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues
about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save
the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3
Direct Cut.
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place
to begin.
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may
introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded
it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.
I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by
any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using
it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My
friend did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe
where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I
do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple
editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes
long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple
to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but
I would like to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire
Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a
bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the
file afterwards.
Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new
Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so
you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using
Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest
learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen
readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio,
but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of
Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
of NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it
was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though,
I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc
so I can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do
you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for
creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded
or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production
(for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many
others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio
regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/














Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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Yes Goldwave is what you need. its easy as editing a word document and althou it needs to be registered, I've never regretted it. See legality on music though, you can get copyright free stuff often on web sites specialising in it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to
remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the
jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:
What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving
it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode
it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your editing
in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or
edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which
edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding
it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after
three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio
degredation.
There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues
about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save
the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3
Direct Cut.
For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to
begin.
If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may
introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded
it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.
I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Claire Potter <mailto:claire.potter99@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any
means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it,
so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend
did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where
something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do
have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing
tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I
wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that,
that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like
to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out
my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a
bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the
file afterwards.
Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new
Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so
you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using
Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning
how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen
readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio,
but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version
of NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I
can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it
was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3
files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I
am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so
I can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do
you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for
creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded
or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for
that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio
regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/















Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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This is very true. I think personally the best thing if you are not short on space is to use wav as high a quality as you can indeed convert any imported audio you use which is in mp3 to that format if you may need to do any edit and then you can listen to the whole without any programs just doing the one encode at the end.
A word of warning on the legal aspects also. Be sure if you are going to use third party material or may criticise people, that you get their permission in writing to publish. When I made online content UI used to have to have an insurance set up in case I got sued. Now the charity I work for has this already but you do still need to be careful as some people will throw a lawyer your way for the slightest thing at all, even if meant in jest!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


What is the next level? Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file? Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality. Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it. If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation.

There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut.

For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.

If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it. You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem. I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm
regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/











Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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I'd also pass you on to the Mozen consulting web site as he has a lot of knowledge about creating podcasts and broadcasting as a completely blind person, Indeed he has I think a paid for course on how to podcast as well.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


I,
I see. In this case, let me refer you to a mailing list where you can meet broadcasters using studio:
https://nvda-spl.groups.io/g/nvda-spl
Although the mailing list is meant for users of StationPlaylist NVDA add-on, it could also serve as a resource for beginners as members of that are broadcasters using NVDA and Studio.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level! Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of
NVDA

Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of
NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would
like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice
and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own
podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains
how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help?
-- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/











Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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Probably off topic her. Do not edit in mp3, always edit in a lossless medium like wav or Flac.
Then when you are happy with the final result convert it to mp3.
I can honestly say that as I've been using a registered version of 32 bit goldwave for years now with the add on from Joseph that it does all you need and can then save the result in many formats and what else do you really want. No need to make things more complex than they need be.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/







Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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I'm pretty sure many use it for their music shows on Mushroom FM but there are other editing packages much more suited to the podcast format, where of course you will not be able to use copyright music due to the UK laws on this.
Even the I phone has something called Ferrite as I recall.

Personally I'm still using Goldwave but Audacity is also a good choice.
Brian

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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi Claire,
Welcome to NVDA list.
Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? -- Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/


Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

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What does Shawn on Techtalk use. i was under the impression that really Station playlist is really best used for music broadcasting, not podcasts. For that other software should be better. I'm sure others will make suggestions, but even Goldwave can be used for basic audio things.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do this. I am using the latest version of NVDA. Can you help? --
Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/



Re: NVDA is not speaking in command prompt as expected

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So does not the checkbox make this a toggle anyway no matter if its on or off?
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is not speaking in command prompt as expected


Thanks, its working now

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From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is not speaking in command prompt as expected

Press NVDA+5 to turn on Report dynamic content changes.
On 7/10/2018 3:08 AM, abdul muhamin wrote:
Hello everyone, after updateing to the latest NVDA, I’m encounter an
error in command prompt. The NVDA is not speaking anything when pressing
enter after entering any command. what could be the problem? I’ve tried
many things, like running a Run COM Registration Fixing tool, checked
any other settings that can effect the command prompt, like in object
presentation, there is an option called Report dynamic content changes
check box, its already checked, if you uncheck it, you will not here any
changes in cmd, but this is not working at all, so what could be the
problem? Waiting for your response, thanks.




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Re: trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Sarah k Alawami
 

Wo! I was not aware it was turned off. I just downloaded a few months ago the April update. I  hope that system restore did not get rurned off. If it did I have to change this, again.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 4:05 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

To clarify, I assume you mean every major six month update, which is a new version of Windows 10, not after the monthly incremental and security updates.  
 
I'll also say that if system restore is turned off after major updates, I consider that negligence, especially if the user isn't notified.  I've seen comments that when Windows is installed, System Restore is also off.  I consider that to be negligence as well.  
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

Good Afternoon:  If this person is using Windows 10 restore point needs to be turned on after every update on a new version of win10.  This requires going in to searching for restore point.  Once it has been found then it has to be configured and turned on for each drive, or at least the drive their windows files are in.  After turning restore point on you must create a restore point.  I hope this helps.

Insider Dave



On 7/3/2018 12:18 PM, Gene wrote:
I would suggest asking how it is done in Windows 10 and see what kind of answers you get.  As far as I know, you have no other reversion program and, in that case, I consider it essential to know how to run a restore point and to know how to check to see if system restore is on.  At this point, we don't know if its on or not and it should be turned on if it isn't.  
 
Being able to run restore points has saved me a lot of work trying to solve problems over the years because I could solve many of them by just running a restore point.
 
For example, at some point, I don't remember what version of Windows this happened in, all my system sounds disappeared.  They were still on the machine and I could change my sound scheme settings but there was no sound.  This was clearly a registry problem.  I ran system restore and solved the problem.
 
At least once, I uninstalled a demo and doing so caused me problems because the demo didn't uninstall properly and did damage.  I didn't have to worry about figuring out what the damage was, replacing files, or anything else.  I ran a restore point.  
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic

I'venever done a system restore before.
 
 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic
 
Why didn't you run a restore point if you had one from immediately or shortly before the program was installed?  It would have reverted the registry to before the program was installed.  

You could have saved time and trouble, perhaps considerable time and trouble if you had run a restore point after the first or second attempts you made to uninstall the program using the first two uninstallation utilities were unsuccessful.
 
And this isn't just about a case like this.  System restore can save you a lot of time and trouble if an odd problem occurs that may take considerable time to try to solve and may even take a visit from a tech.  
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 converter classic
 

Hi, Debra,


I had to end up calling the microsoft disability line. The girl there 
helped me to uninstall it. She had to go into the registry to get rid of 
it. Well, it's gone now. I should have thought carefully before 
installing it. It doesn't work with windows 10 at all.


Rosemarie




On 7/3/2018 8:37 AM, Debra Gardner wrote:
> What happened when you hit enter on uninstall in your context menu?  
> It should open up a list and you should be able to tab or arrow around 
> among some choices.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 6:54 PM
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 
> converter classic
>
>> I wasn't given a choice as to how deep I wanted to go. All it said 
>> was "pick the uninstall mode" but nothing else. Maybe I'm not doing 
>> something right.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/2018 4:51 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
>>> when you first upen up the  program after installation, it will give 
>>> you a list of programs on your computer that can be uninstalled. 
>>> Pick the one you want and go into your context menu  and pick 
>>> uninstall.  It will then give you a choice of how deep an uninstall 
>>> you want to go.
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 4:28 PM
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 
>>> converter classic
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much. I'll give it a try and let you know if it worked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/2/2018 2:26 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
>>>>> Here's something you might try. It's called revo uninstaller. If 
>>>>> you install this and it asks if you want to upgrade, say no 
>>>>> because ifyou do, the upgrade isn't accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/4o37ul
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:21 AM
>>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3 
>>>>> converter classic
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's a 32 bit program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/1/2018 10:56 AM, Jackie wrote:
>>>>>>> Rosemarie, how many bits the program itself is does not make a
>>>>>>> difference. What's important is whether your version of 
>>>>>>> *windows* is
>>>>>>> 32- or 64-bits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/1/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Already tried that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/1/2018 12:42 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Depending which version of windows try looking in control 
>>>>>>>>> panel for
>>>>>>>>> programs and features or if older os add/remove programs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s the proper way of doing uninstalls
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *01 July 2018 07:17
>>>>>>>>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *[nvda] trying to uninstall the free youtube to mpp3
>>>>>>>>> converter classic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you recommend a good program for uninstalling the free 
>>>>>>>>> youtube to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mp3 converter classic? I tried a program called special 
>>>>>>>>> uninstaller but
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that didn't help at all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
>





Re: antivirus?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yuck! That does not sound like fun. I just use the MSE thing from MS or what ever i tis called now a days.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 5:54 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:

active@disk image free version



On 7/10/2018 5:19 PM, Ernest H Molina wrote:
What program did you use to make a disk image of windows?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus?

I had to reload windows

luckly I had a disk image of my drive so getting it restored only took a hour but yeah that thing royally screwed my machine up


On 7/10/2018 1:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
When you come to remove Avast, if you use dropbox check to see if the
dialogues still work afterwards.

I had no end of trouble properly uninstalling Avast Its a bit centre
of the universe like, in that once you get it, getting rid of it is a
pain.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 8:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] antivirus?


Hello besides windows defender any one recommend a antivirus that
works well with nvda?

I am testing avast and the only thing that I can select to scan is a
smart scan

I can't select any of the other parts to scan pc for viruses just the
smart scan

thanks

Hank


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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m picky. Even though my podcast is talk as well, I must  make it sound like i’m in a recording studio if I possibly can with intros and outtros and stuff. If it does not I don’t release that month. I hate bad sounding podcasts which is why I don’t listen to hardly any. I don’t have time to cringe. I put that energy toward my work such as it is right now.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

But this is a simple podcast with a person talking and music playing at times underneath.  If the person does audio work in the future requiring the kind of knowledge you are discussing, that's different. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You don’t need to know all of that but it helps, a lot especually if someone asks you if ou want to equ it to about 280 or so. Also if you know what things sound like you will know what to eq to if you need to do that. You don’t have to know 100 percent, but yeah I took the classes and it has helped in my audio production, a lot.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

I couldn't have put it better myself, for me personally if I don't understand something I avoid doing it until it is explained well. 

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 21:33, Gene wrote:
You don't need to know much technical information of the kind discussed in the message quoted below mine.  What you do need to know is easily understood if explained well.  
 
Gene

 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Start with learning the wave forms, the filters, the audio frequencies, the formulas. That’s where I started when I took classes about 14 years ago and they have helped.. Also learn about high  and low pass filters, eq, queue etc. You can do all of this in a matter of weeks if you take the time to sit down and play with simple sound files and white noise which contains all frequencies from 20 hz to 20 k.. Also learn about digital to analog if you need to and more.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph, I think it is between Goldwave and Audacity now, Soundforge is another one I am looking at as well, so I guess now the question is where do I start so I can learn the basics of audio editing in general with Nvda?  Does NV Access have any tutorials, or at least anyone else? 

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:54, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Regarding GoldWave: I believe someone did a series of tutorials on using it with NVDA a while back.

As for Studio with NVDA: I produced one back in 2014, but as of now, it is very out of date (the add-on back then versus what it is now is way different). I asked several broadcasters if they’d like to do just that, but to no avail.

I suggest going through the following sequence:

  1. Learn basics of audio editing, such as concepts and skills you need for using any audio editor. This is so that you can transfer the knowledge between programs, as they provide similar functionality across the board. You’ll learn things such as why dynamics matter, timing, audio formats and what not. 
  2. Evaluate several audio editors, not just the ones suggested by folks on this forum. 
  3. Once you find an editor you are most comfortable with, learn how that audio editor works by applying what you learned through a basics course. 
  4. Optionally, if you have time or are adventurous, learn the basics of other editors so you can switch between them easily as the need arises. 

Cheers,

Joseph


 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

hi Josiph,  I did see that Brian Hartgen did do a tutorial about using Station playlist,  but like most things he does, they are to do with Jaws, not NVDA, I don't think anyone else has done anything to do with using Station playlist. I think what I really need is some tech training from someone knowledgable who knows about NVDA where I can be talked through exactly what to do and how to record using either Goldwave or Audacity,  yes, tutorials are good to purchase but I think it is just as good to pay someone and know you can ask questions there and then, after all, we all have to start somewhere! 

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 19:22, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

This can be done in Audacity, GoldWave and other audio editors via “voiceover” and similar effects. You would first record your voice, find out how long your voice track is, load appropriate music, then mix them via this effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will mix in your voice track copied to the clipboard into your music). Similarly, for fade out, you can specify when the music should end and do either a crossfade, or let the music fade out and mix in your voice track (I can tell you, having done this work for ten years, it requires precise control in timing, dynamics (volume changes) and what not in order to achieve professional quality; my tutorial set (particularly Windows 10 audio guides) are good examples of this).

The biggest advantage of this method is that you can stay in just one program. The issue though is having precise control over the final audio cut.


 

On the other hand, you can do the same thing with StationPlaylist Studio with editing done via another program. For benefit of those who may not know how it can be done, here’s how:

  1. Load a bunch of tracks into Studio’s playlist viewer (the main window), including the background music. 
  2. Set up a dummy encoder that’ll record things to mp3 files. 
  3. Configure the microphone in Studio so music will fade (Studio Options page). 
  4. Start the encoder. 
  5. Switch to Studio’s playlist viewer, move down through the music beds, then press Enter to play each one. 
  6. Speak to your microphone. Be sure to do it whenever you need to speak – doing this with mic on at all times may result in lower volume for the music bed. 
  7. When you’re done, press S from Studio to stop with fade. 
  8. With the recording done, turn off the dummy encoder. 

 

The advantage of this approach is that it’ll feel like you’re doing a live broadcast.

The problems with this approach are:

  1. You need to have an idea as to which music beds to play (in other words, choose the playlist items carefully). 
  2. You need to have precise control over when to turn on or off the microphone, as well as when to fade the music bed. 
  3. You need to set up a dummy encoder for this purpose. 
  4. The mp3 you’ll get is a rough cut, so you need to edit it with another program. 

 

As for file formats to use when editing audio: as Sarah and others pointed out, it is best to use an uncompressed (pure) audio format such as wave (.wav) or FLAC (free lossless audio codec). I personally edit my files in .wav format, and once everything is in place, then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format) with reasonable quality.

In case you haven’t, I highly recommend talking to people such as Jonathan Mosen, Brian Hartgen, David Woodbridge and many others who are professors of audio editing from blindness perspective.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 
Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:

My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses.  


 

for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.

Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?


 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times. 

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation.  


 

There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut.  


 

For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.


 

If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.


 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> 
>


 

 

 






Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

This link will take you to a page where information about the Audacity e-mail list can be found.  There is other information on the page as well but I haven't looked at it much so I can't discuss it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message ------
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

There is an Audacity users' list.  In a message later today, I'll send a link to the web page where you can find information about joining it.  According to the page, you have to subscribe in the manner given, you can't do so with the usual e-mail subscription method.
 
You may be able to get recommendations on instructional material and you may be able to work out arrangements to work with someone there. 
 
One point I would make is that you may find it considerably simpler and easier to buy an inexpensive physical mixer so you can mix the music and audio in real time as you talk. 
 
You would have full control over the music level in real time as you talk and you could fade it out in real time when you want and just as fast or slowly as you want or change the volume of the music as you wish as you speak. 
 
I've seen discussions of mixers on the Audacity list before so you might want to ask there. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

But this is a simple podcast with a person talking and music playing at times underneath.  If the person does audio work in the future requiring the kind of knowledge you are discussing, that's different. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You don’t need to know all of that but it helps, a lot especually if someone asks you if ou want to equ it to about 280 or so. Also if you know what things sound like you will know what to eq to if you need to do that. You don’t have to know 100 percent, but yeah I took the classes and it has helped in my audio production, a lot.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

I couldn't have put it better myself, for me personally if I don't understand something I avoid doing it until it is explained well.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 21:33, Gene wrote:
You don't need to know much technical information of the kind discussed in the message quoted below mine.  What you do need to know is easily understood if explained well. 
 
Gene

 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Start with learning the wave forms, the filters, the audio frequencies, the formulas. That’s where I started when I took classes about 14 years ago and they have helped.. Also learn about high  and low pass filters, eq, queue etc. You can do all of this in a matter of weeks if you take the time to sit down and play with simple sound files and white noise which contains all frequencies from 20 hz to 20 k.. Also learn about digital to analog if you need to and more.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph, I think it is between Goldwave and Audacity now, Soundforge is another one I am looking at as well, so I guess now the question is where do I start so I can learn the basics of audio editing in general with Nvda?  Does NV Access have any tutorials, or at least anyone else?

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:54, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Regarding GoldWave: I believe someone did a series of tutorials on using it with NVDA a while back.

As for Studio with NVDA: I produced one back in 2014, but as of now, it is very out of date (the add-on back then versus what it is now is way different). I asked several broadcasters if they’d like to do just that, but to no avail.

I suggest going through the following sequence:

  1. Learn basics of audio editing, such as concepts and skills you need for using any audio editor. This is so that you can transfer the knowledge between programs, as they provide similar functionality across the board. You’ll learn things such as why dynamics matter, timing, audio formats and what not.
  2. Evaluate several audio editors, not just the ones suggested by folks on this forum.
  3. Once you find an editor you are most comfortable with, learn how that audio editor works by applying what you learned through a basics course.
  4. Optionally, if you have time or are adventurous, learn the basics of other editors so you can switch between them easily as the need arises.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

hi Josiph,  I did see that Brian Hartgen did do a tutorial about using Station playlist,  but like most things he does, they are to do with Jaws, not NVDA, I don't think anyone else has done anything to do with using Station playlist. I think what I really need is some tech training from someone knowledgable who knows about NVDA where I can be talked through exactly what to do and how to record using either Goldwave or Audacity,  yes, tutorials are good to purchase but I think it is just as good to pay someone and know you can ask questions there and then, after all, we all have to start somewhere!

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 19:22, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

This can be done in Audacity, GoldWave and other audio editors via “voiceover” and similar effects. You would first record your voice, find out how long your voice track is, load appropriate music, then mix them via this effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will mix in your voice track copied to the clipboard into your music). Similarly, for fade out, you can specify when the music should end and do either a crossfade, or let the music fade out and mix in your voice track (I can tell you, having done this work for ten years, it requires precise control in timing, dynamics (volume changes) and what not in order to achieve professional quality; my tutorial set (particularly Windows 10 audio guides) are good examples of this).

The biggest advantage of this method is that you can stay in just one program. The issue though is having precise control over the final audio cut.


 

On the other hand, you can do the same thing with StationPlaylist Studio with editing done via another program. For benefit of those who may not know how it can be done, here’s how:

  1. Load a bunch of tracks into Studio’s playlist viewer (the main window), including the background music.
  2. Set up a dummy encoder that’ll record things to mp3 files.
  3. Configure the microphone in Studio so music will fade (Studio Options page).
  4. Start the encoder.
  5. Switch to Studio’s playlist viewer, move down through the music beds, then press Enter to play each one.
  6. Speak to your microphone. Be sure to do it whenever you need to speak – doing this with mic on at all times may result in lower volume for the music bed.
  7. When you’re done, press S from Studio to stop with fade.
  8. With the recording done, turn off the dummy encoder.

 

The advantage of this approach is that it’ll feel like you’re doing a live broadcast.

The problems with this approach are:

  1. You need to have an idea as to which music beds to play (in other words, choose the playlist items carefully).
  2. You need to have precise control over when to turn on or off the microphone, as well as when to fade the music bed.
  3. You need to set up a dummy encoder for this purpose.
  4. The mp3 you’ll get is a rough cut, so you need to edit it with another program.

 

As for file formats to use when editing audio: as Sarah and others pointed out, it is best to use an uncompressed (pure) audio format such as wave (.wav) or FLAC (free lossless audio codec). I personally edit my files in .wav format, and once everything is in place, then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format) with reasonable quality.

In case you haven’t, I highly recommend talking to people such as Jonathan Mosen, Brian Hartgen, David Woodbridge and many others who are professors of audio editing from blindness perspective.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 
Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:

My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 


 

for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.

Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?


 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 


 

There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 


 

For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.


 

If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.


 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>
> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
>
> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
>>
>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>>
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Re: IObit Uninstaller

Don H
 

Just saw it on youtube as a must have Windows app. If it is on youtube it has to be good right?

On 7/10/2018 7:54 PM, The Wolf wrote:
me neether
On 7/10/2018 5:32 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't heard of it.




On 7/10/2018 5:24 PM, Don H wrote:
Anyone have any experience with using this free uninstaller ap called IObit Uninstaller with NVDA?







Re: IObit Uninstaller

 

me neether

On 7/10/2018 5:32 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't heard of it.




On 7/10/2018 5:24 PM, Don H wrote:
Anyone have any experience with using this free uninstaller ap called IObit Uninstaller with NVDA?





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Re: antivirus?

 

active@disk image free version

On 7/10/2018 5:19 PM, Ernest H Molina wrote:
What program did you use to make a disk image of windows?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus?

I had to reload windows

luckly I had a disk image of my drive so getting it restored only took a hour but yeah that thing royally screwed my machine up


On 7/10/2018 1:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
When you come to remove Avast, if you use dropbox check to see if the
dialogues still work afterwards.

I had no end of trouble properly uninstalling Avast Its a bit centre
of the universe like, in that once you get it, getting rid of it is a
pain.
brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 8:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] antivirus?


Hello besides windows defender any one recommend a antivirus that
works well with nvda?

I am testing avast and the only thing that I can select to scan is a
smart scan

I can't select any of the other parts to scan pc for viruses just the
smart scan

thanks

Hank


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Re: IObit Uninstaller

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't heard of it.

On 7/10/2018 5:24 PM, Don H wrote:
Anyone have any experience with using this free uninstaller ap called IObit Uninstaller with NVDA?



IObit Uninstaller

Don H
 

Anyone have any experience with using this free uninstaller ap called IObit Uninstaller with NVDA?


Re: antivirus?

Ernest H Molina
 

What program did you use to make a disk image of windows?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus?

I had to reload windows

luckly I had a disk image of my drive so getting it restored only took a hour but yeah that thing royally screwed my machine up


On 7/10/2018 1:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
When you come to remove Avast, if you use dropbox check to see if the
dialogues still work afterwards.

I had no end of trouble properly uninstalling Avast Its a bit centre
of the universe like, in that once you get it, getting rid of it is a
pain.
brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 8:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] antivirus?


Hello besides windows defender any one recommend a antivirus that
works well with nvda?

I am testing avast and the only thing that I can select to scan is a
smart scan

I can't select any of the other parts to scan pc for viruses just the
smart scan

thanks

Hank


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Re: antivirus?

Gene
 

I wonder why it caused such a problem.  That would be the one way I would have thought would be safest.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus?

the avast clear tool


On 7/10/2018 4:01 PM, Gene wrote:
How did you remove the program, using programs and features or in some other way? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus?

I had to reload windows

luckly I had a disk image of my drive so getting it restored only took a
hour but yeah that thing royally screwed my machine up


On 7/10/2018 1:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> When you come to remove Avast, if you use dropbox check to see if the
> dialogues still work afterwards.
>
> I had no end of trouble properly uninstalling Avast Its a bit centre
> of the universe like, in that once you get it, getting rid of it is a
> pain.
> brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 8:19 PM
> Subject: [nvda] antivirus?
>
>
>> Hello besides windows defender any one recommend a antivirus that
>> works well with nvda?
>>
>> I am testing avast and the only thing that I can select to scan is a
>> smart scan
>>
>> I can't select any of the other parts to scan pc for viruses just the
>> smart scan
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>> --
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>> https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
>>
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>>
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Re: Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Gene
 

There is an Audacity users' list.  In a message later today, I'll send a link to the web page where you can find information about joining it.  According to the page, you have to subscribe in the manner given, you can't do so with the usual e-mail subscription method.
 
You may be able to get recommendations on instructional material and you may be able to work out arrangements to work with someone there. 
 
One point I would make is that you may find it considerably simpler and easier to buy an inexpensive physical mixer so you can mix the music and audio in real time as you talk. 
 
You would have full control over the music level in real time as you talk and you could fade it out in real time when you want and just as fast or slowly as you want or change the volume of the music as you wish as you speak. 
 
I've seen discussions of mixers on the Audacity list before so you might want to ask there. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

But this is a simple podcast with a person talking and music playing at times underneath.  If the person does audio work in the future requiring the kind of knowledge you are discussing, that's different. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

You don’t need to know all of that but it helps, a lot especually if someone asks you if ou want to equ it to about 280 or so. Also if you know what things sound like you will know what to eq to if you need to do that. You don’t have to know 100 percent, but yeah I took the classes and it has helped in my audio production, a lot.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

I couldn't have put it better myself, for me personally if I don't understand something I avoid doing it until it is explained well.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 21:33, Gene wrote:
You don't need to know much technical information of the kind discussed in the message quoted below mine.  What you do need to know is easily understood if explained well. 
 
Gene

 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA

Start with learning the wave forms, the filters, the audio frequencies, the formulas. That’s where I started when I took classes about 14 years ago and they have helped.. Also learn about high  and low pass filters, eq, queue etc. You can do all of this in a matter of weeks if you take the time to sit down and play with simple sound files and white noise which contains all frequencies from 20 hz to 20 k.. Also learn about digital to analog if you need to and more.

On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph, I think it is between Goldwave and Audacity now, Soundforge is another one I am looking at as well, so I guess now the question is where do I start so I can learn the basics of audio editing in general with Nvda?  Does NV Access have any tutorials, or at least anyone else?

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
On 10/07/2018 19:54, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Regarding GoldWave: I believe someone did a series of tutorials on using it with NVDA a while back.

As for Studio with NVDA: I produced one back in 2014, but as of now, it is very out of date (the add-on back then versus what it is now is way different). I asked several broadcasters if they’d like to do just that, but to no avail.

I suggest going through the following sequence:

  1. Learn basics of audio editing, such as concepts and skills you need for using any audio editor. This is so that you can transfer the knowledge between programs, as they provide similar functionality across the board. You’ll learn things such as why dynamics matter, timing, audio formats and what not.
  2. Evaluate several audio editors, not just the ones suggested by folks on this forum.
  3. Once you find an editor you are most comfortable with, learn how that audio editor works by applying what you learned through a basics course.
  4. Optionally, if you have time or are adventurous, learn the basics of other editors so you can switch between them easily as the need arises.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

hi Josiph,  I did see that Brian Hartgen did do a tutorial about using Station playlist,  but like most things he does, they are to do with Jaws, not NVDA, I don't think anyone else has done anything to do with using Station playlist. I think what I really need is some tech training from someone knowledgable who knows about NVDA where I can be talked through exactly what to do and how to record using either Goldwave or Audacity,  yes, tutorials are good to purchase but I think it is just as good to pay someone and know you can ask questions there and then, after all, we all have to start somewhere!

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 19:22, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

This can be done in Audacity, GoldWave and other audio editors via “voiceover” and similar effects. You would first record your voice, find out how long your voice track is, load appropriate music, then mix them via this effect (in GoldWave, voiceover effect will mix in your voice track copied to the clipboard into your music). Similarly, for fade out, you can specify when the music should end and do either a crossfade, or let the music fade out and mix in your voice track (I can tell you, having done this work for ten years, it requires precise control in timing, dynamics (volume changes) and what not in order to achieve professional quality; my tutorial set (particularly Windows 10 audio guides) are good examples of this).

The biggest advantage of this method is that you can stay in just one program. The issue though is having precise control over the final audio cut.


 

On the other hand, you can do the same thing with StationPlaylist Studio with editing done via another program. For benefit of those who may not know how it can be done, here’s how:

  1. Load a bunch of tracks into Studio’s playlist viewer (the main window), including the background music.
  2. Set up a dummy encoder that’ll record things to mp3 files.
  3. Configure the microphone in Studio so music will fade (Studio Options page).
  4. Start the encoder.
  5. Switch to Studio’s playlist viewer, move down through the music beds, then press Enter to play each one.
  6. Speak to your microphone. Be sure to do it whenever you need to speak – doing this with mic on at all times may result in lower volume for the music bed.
  7. When you’re done, press S from Studio to stop with fade.
  8. With the recording done, turn off the dummy encoder.

 

The advantage of this approach is that it’ll feel like you’re doing a live broadcast.

The problems with this approach are:

  1. You need to have an idea as to which music beds to play (in other words, choose the playlist items carefully).
  2. You need to have precise control over when to turn on or off the microphone, as well as when to fade the music bed.
  3. You need to set up a dummy encoder for this purpose.
  4. The mp3 you’ll get is a rough cut, so you need to edit it with another program.

 

As for file formats to use when editing audio: as Sarah and others pointed out, it is best to use an uncompressed (pure) audio format such as wave (.wav) or FLAC (free lossless audio codec). I personally edit my files in .wav format, and once everything is in place, then I convert it into mp3 (lossy format) with reasonable quality.

In case you haven’t, I highly recommend talking to people such as Jonathan Mosen, Brian Hartgen, David Woodbridge and many others who are professors of audio editing from blindness perspective.

Cheers,

Joseph


 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 
Hi, what I want to do is have music attimes which ducks at times so I can talk over it and then the music fades out eventually, it would not get any more complex than that.  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 17:22, Gene wrote:

My messages may have more information than is helpful now.  So disregard them if they are.  Once the discussion progresses further, I may have more specific information about programs and editing as the discussion progresses. 


 

for now, I want to find out as precisely as I can what you want to do, so I'll ask this question.

Do you want to have music simultaneously with your speech or just speech with jingles at times in the program?


 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

Hi Gene, you have totally confused me now, I just want to be able to remove bits of audio which do not need to be there, and add in the jingles and music at the appropriate times.

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:58, Gene wrote:

What is the next level?  Are you editing an mp3 file and then saving it again as an MP3 file?  Every time you edit a file and then reencode it while saving, you lose audio quality.  Either do all your editing in a lossless format such as wave, then save the final file as MP3, or edit an existing mp3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, which edits existing MP3 files and saves the edited file without reencoding it.  If you edit and save an MP3 file reencoding it every time, after three or four saves, you will start to hear significant audio degredation. 


 

There may be other things you should know as the discussion continues about how to decide if you want to edit in a lossless format and save the entire file as an MP3 as the last save or use a program like MP3 Direct Cut. 


 

For now, basics such as just what you want to do would be the place to begin.


 

If you edit an MP3 file using a program like MP3 Direct Cut, you may introduce artifacts, depending on how the recording program recorded it.  You can use a recording program that eliminates this problem.  I'm saying that here so you know you have that option.


 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA


 

Hi Joseph, I have used NVDA for about 6 months now, I would not by any means call myself an expert yet but I am quite confident in using it, so it is just Studio and editing programs that I am new to. My friend did say that I can’t  edit in Studio itself, so that is maybe where something like Audacity or even Total recorder would come in. I do have Total recorder and I really like using that for simple editing tasks, so for example if I have a file that is 30 minutes long but I wanted to select a section to remove it is really simple to do that, that is about as far as I currently go with editing, but I would like to take it to the next level!  Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 10/07/2018 16:37, Joseph Lee wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, you can use StationPlaylist Studio for pre-recording shows (a bit involved), but you may need a different program for editing the file afterwards.
> Just so we can help you better: are you a new NVDA user, a new Studio user, or both? If both, then I suggest learning NVDA first so you can get an idea as to how to use the screen reader before using Studio. Once you become comfortable with NVDA, then I suggest learning how to use Studio so you can use its features efficiently.
> There is as NVDA add-on (similar to scripts for other screen readers) that makes improvements to how NVDA interacts with Studio, but that's getting way ahead of the broadcast.
> Cheers,
> Joseph
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire Potter
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:30 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
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> Hi Joseph, it was a friend who used to use it a little while ago, I can’t remember what exactly she said but it was something like if it was used to produce pre-recorded shows those are then saved as MP3 files which I can edit as if they were podcasts, like I said though, I am quite new to the whole world of audio editing and production etc so I can’t quite remember what she said.
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> Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
>
> On 10/07/2018 16:12, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi Claire,
>> Welcome to NVDA list.
>> Sorry to say the following as a reply to your first post, but do you have a source who told you StationPlaylist Studio can be used for creating podcasts? Studio is mostly meant for producing pre-recorded or live shows on air, not necessarily used for podcast production (for that, there are programs such as Audacity, GoldWave, and many others).
>> I'll ask some folks I know who uses StationPlaylist Studio regarding this possibility.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claire
>> Potter
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:31 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Using Station playlist with the latest version of NVDA
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>> Hi, I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me. I would like
>> to learn how to use Station playlist as I am a complete novice and I
>> would like to use Station playlist studio to record my own podcasts, I
>> am however unable to find a clear tutorial which explains how to do
>> this. I am using the latest version of NVDA.  Can you help? -- Warm
>> regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website:
>> http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/
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