Re: PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes
Jonathan COHN
Hello,
Yes either Daisy, NIMAS or ePub is more likely to have appropriate markup for footnotes. I believe most textbooks in the US are supposed to be available in the NIMAS accessible format. The Braille Blaster program can convert NIMAS files directly into Braille documents. You can read a bit more about NIMAS at: http://aem.cast.org/creating/national-instructional-materials-accessibility-standard-nimas.html The Daisy and ePub standards are now pretty much merged, and since the Edge browser will act as a ePub reader, that might work for reviewing your documents if you can get them in that format. I believe that PDF documents that conform to PDF-UA should also have navigable footnotes. The problem with pdf is that it was initially designed to provide different printers with the ability to produce the same page output no matter the printer and accessibility needs were only added later when the US Government started supplying documents and forms in PDF. Best Wishes, Jonathan Cohn
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Re: NVDA and Focus40 or other Braille displays
John J. Boyer
I am using a Focus 40. You will have to install the Freedom Scientific drivers.
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 05:38:05PM -0400, Lisa P Geibel wrote:
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Re: NVDA and Edge browser
Gary Metzler
Hi Joseph,
Will they be addressing this issue? Thanks,
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 8:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Edge browser
Hi, I know that, for news feed, characters from posts are on separate lines, and looks like it has to do with Edge. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Hi Joseph,
It is on the mobile site.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi, Is this on Mobile site or the desktop version of Facebook? Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Hi Joseph,
I have an edge question. When I am on the facebook page when I am reading down the page items are spoken twice. I am using the latest win10 and nvda. Thanks for any help.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi, The answer can be found on the following website: https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/wiki/W10Changelog
Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
It was my understanding that NVDA doesn't support Edge at all right now. Am I wrong?
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Re: NVDA and Focus40 or other Braille displays
Mallard
Hello Lisa,
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My computer seems to be playing up this morning. Just to make sure, I'm pasting the link to my Dropbox again. Sorry list if this comes in many instances, but I don't understand what's going on here. Ciao, Ollie Link to download driver for Focus: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0
Il 11/07/2018 23:38, Lisa P Geibel ha scritto:
Hi,
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Re: NVDA and Focus40 or other Braille displays
Mallard
Sorry, the link didn't paste.
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Here you go: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0
Il 12/07/2018 00:58, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
In the UserGuide is the link to download the Focus driver from Freedom Scientific pages...
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Re: NVDA and Focus40 or other Braille displays
Mallard
...And here's a link to my Dropbox, from which you can download it. I found that it isn't all that straightforward to download it from the FS site.
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hth, ciao, Ollie
Il 12/07/2018 00:58, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
In the UserGuide is the link to download the Focus driver from Freedom Scientific pages...
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Re: why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read?
Stephen W. Wise
Hi,
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Thunderbird is my exclusive email client...and has been for years now. If you go to menu item Tools --> Options --> in the list view, select display, tab once, arrow to the right to advanced on the tabs and tab once, the option should be there which says 'Mark Message As Read'...the default is Immediately which is changed on the next press of the tab key to take you to the options where you up and down arrow...you can adjust this behavior. HTH, Stephen
On 7/11/2018 11:40 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I never thought it would from the description of the issue. is the preview pane on?
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Re: NVDA and Skype
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well that is a strange one. Does this mean all sounds are muted all the time?
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I used to find it annoying that Skype took control of inputs and outputs every time I ran it and then forgot to put stuff back when you had finished. As I mostly use line level this was really annoying. I seldom use Skype these days. many people I know tend to use their mobile for Skype now to leave their desktop unpoluted, so to speak! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 2:39 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Skype Hi All, I just installed Skype and when I tried to set up the audio, my Jay Lab speakers went silent producing a humming sound. I am new to using Skype and I would appreciate any suggestion and/or feedback. Is there a more accessible version of Skype? Is there a tutorial for using Skype with NVDA? Many thanks Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 6:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Focus40 or other Braille displays In the UserGuide is the link to download the Focus driver from Freedom Scientific pages... Regards, Rui Fontes Às 22:59 de 11/07/2018, Moty Azrad escreveu: Hi,
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Re: PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
See my reply. Scanned are generally just pictures, so obviously an ocr is the only way to go. However if you have contact with the document supplier and they do not understand how to make pdfs accessible and how to make comments editable etc, it might be easier for them to simply send you the original docx files that they made them with instead, or they will need to be using the paid for pdf Adobe suite of software to make them accessible. They could be using any old third party tool or word itself to make them and hence it would be fare easier to send them as word in the first place. From experience the only reason they site for using pdf is that they do not want people changing content, but in the case of a blind user, if they cannot create an accessible pdf, the use of word would seem to be a logical adjustment to make.
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From: "Sociohack AC" <acsociopath@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes Hello Quentin! 1. Add, read and edit comments. 2. Highlight text and navigate highlighted text as you suggested for word in my previous question. 3. Navigating footnotes by jumping to the footnotes from the respective reference number. 4. Other basic commands like - reading para by para and skim read feature Basicàly, I need an efficient way of reading footnotes, as you can do in word. But, I only receive PDFs and as you said converting them to word won't help. Sometimes I also receive scanned books in PDF. Can footnotes in them would be read as well? Could daisy be a solution? Sorry, for the lengthy post, but this is important. Thanks for your time! Regards
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Re: PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes there are a considerable number of clueless people in education industry and in fact many walks of life who feel that just creating a picture off text is OK as they can see the letters. You also get files formatted as if it were in a newspaper but where they have not tagged the changes in reading order as the columns etc change in the file. if I had a ten pound not for every pdf I've had where page one is perfect but the rest is gibberish I would be a rich man!
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From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes When you say you can't access the PDF properly, is Adobe Reader reading any
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Re: Problem with Skype
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes this seems to happen with other programs on windows 10. Usually after a major update. That is one of the frustrations I had with 10, and is why my working copy of windows is still Windoze 7.
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From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with Skype hi, i'm afraid you have had the same problem as I have had.
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Re: Removing an addon
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I think its tools add on manager, then find it and you should find at least the ability to disable it as an option.
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Some seem never to go away but are turned off. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Dr. arvind singh brar" <arvindsinghbrar@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 6:38 PM Subject: [nvda] Removing an addon Hi friends, Could anyone please provide a step by step instruction on removing a firefox addon please; I installed the firefox browser console addon and it's annoying, it keeps popping up everytime firefox loads, Thank you so much Arvind This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons. Homepage; http://tip.simpl.com/
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Re: why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
F8, but I found strange things with tbird and did not like it much. Each to their own.
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From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read? It sounds like you need to turn off the preview pane. That is under view/lay-out menu.
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Re: why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
One of the idiocies that made me abandon Tbird as well as the all in one big heap problem was that for some reason it kept opening new tabs with messages in them when not asked to.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read? Rosemarie, Are you, by any chance, arrowing down through the list of messages in your inbox? If so, double check that your preview pane (or whatever Thunderbird calls it) is not turned on. The default settings in Thunderbird will mark messages as read after something like 5 seconds of being displayed in the preview pane or being opened in a separate tab for reading. If the preview pane has accidentally been turned on this could be your problem when you slowly cruise through your inbox. I believe that F8 will toggle the preview pane off and on. You can also check View menu, Layout, Message Pane. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind. ~ Richard Dehmel
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Re: why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I never thought it would from the description of the issue. is the preview pane on?
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Otherwise it might be some subtle change in something. The question is what. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] why is thunderbird marking all new messages as read? That didn't work.
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Re: Recognising highlighted text in word document by NVDA
Akshaya Choudhary
Thank you very much for this, Quentin!
It works well enough. Regards Sociohack
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Re: PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes
Akshaya Choudhary
Hello Quentin!
Pardon my ignorance, but I don't to how to navigate PDFs with NVDA. I have always converted them in word. But, now I get material in which footnotes are very important. Can I navigate them in the PDF itself? Can you give me a link on navigating PDF with NVDA? I need the ability to -1. Add, read and edit comments. 2. Highlight text and navigate highlighted text as you suggested for word in my previous question. 3. Navigating footnotes by jumping to the footnotes from the respective reference number. 4. Other basic commands like - reading para by para and skim read feature Basicàly, I need an efficient way of reading footnotes, as you can do in word. But, I only receive PDFs and as you said converting them to word won't help. Sometimes I also receive scanned books in PDF. Can footnotes in them would be read as well? Could daisy be a solution? Sorry, for the lengthy post, but this is important. Thanks for your time! Regards
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Re: nvda not switching to usb headset
enes sarıbaş
hi, I have selected it in the synthesizer dialogue, and speech still
won't come through though normal sounds do, including narrator.
On 7/12/2018 1:24 AM, Abbie Taylor
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Have you tried selecting the headset in the speech preferences under "Speech Output?"
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Re: PDF t9 Word keeping footnotes
Quentin Christensen
When you say you can't access the PDF properly, is Adobe Reader reading any of the text? If you need to use Abbyy to convert it to readable text, then there likely isn't a way of converting to a Word document and keeping the footnotes. If you need it for school and are finding you have to use Abbyy to make it readable, I would advise trying to convince the school to give you a more accessible format to begin with. Otherwise, they will assume it works fine and keep sending you the same format. Note that PDF can be perfectly accessible, so I first ensure you have the latest version of Adobe Reader just in case. Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Sociohack AC <acsociopath@...> wrote:
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Re: Recognising highlighted text in word document by NVDA
Quentin Christensen
Hi there, While there isn't an NVDA command for this, it is possible in Word: 1) Press CONTROL+H (This is the replace command, but it ensures the dialog opens, rather than the task pane) 2) Press ALT+M to activate the "More" button to show more options (if already activated the button becomes "Less" and alt+m doesn't do anything further). 3) Press ALT+O to open the Format button / menu. 4) Press H to select "Highlight". (Note this is a toggle, so if you follow all these steps again it will turn off looking for highlighted text). 5) Press ALT+F to find the next piece of highlighted text. 6) Press ESCAPE to exit the find / replace dialog. The text will be selected. You can read it with NVDA+SHIFT+UP ARROW or NVDA+SHIFT+S to read the selected text or navigate and edit as desired. 7) Press CONTROL+PAGE DOWN to move to the next piece of highlighted text or CONTROL+PAGE UP to move to the previous piece of highlighted text. There is more on using Find in the Microsoft Word with NVDA eBook, available for $30 Australian from https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/ Regards Quentin.
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