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Re: Twitter on a windows 10 machine

Scott VanDeWalle
 

I have used twitter for windows 10.  I don’t know of any tutorials for it though.  I still find the actual

www.twitter.com

fairly easy to use.  It has shortcut keys, and if I’m not using a 3rd party client I will use twitter.com

Saying that, I do not believe the 3rd party clients are going away.

I have heard however, just the streaming portion will be affected and also no more notifications like on mobile.

If you need more help let me know.

Hth

 

 

Scott

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 8:14:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter on a windows 10 machine
 
By the way i for got to say i heard it can be done through the browser
has any one done it that way? is it fully accessible and also has any
one done a tutorial on using it with nvda?


Gene nz



On 7/16/2018 11:57 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
> Hi guys
>
>
> Is any one on this list using the windows twitter app? is it accessible?
> or not really?
>
>
> If it is accessible and people are using it has any one else written a
> tutorial on using it or setting up also a twitter account etc in the
> tutorial?
>
> If they have could they send it on to me.
>
>
> I have heard some third party twitter apps will not work after a certain
> period of time some thing to do with changes with twitter is this one of
> them?
>
> Any help would be great.
>
>
> Apart from setting up a twitter account and looking at this app i have
> not gone any further.
>
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Twitter on a windows 10 machine

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

By the way i for got to say i heard it can be done through the browser
has any one done it that way? is it fully accessible and also has any
one done a tutorial on using it with nvda?


Gene nz

On 7/16/2018 11:57 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi guys


Is any one on this list using the windows twitter app? is it accessible?
or not really?


If it is accessible and people are using it has any one else written a
tutorial on using it or setting up also a twitter account etc in the
tutorial?

If they have could they send it on to me.


I have heard some third party twitter apps will not work after a certain
period of time some thing to do with changes with twitter is this one of
them?

Any help would be great.


Apart from setting up a twitter account and looking at this app i have
not gone any further.



Gene nz





Twitter on a windows 10 machine

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys


Is any one on this list using the windows twitter app? is it accessible?
or not really?


If it is accessible and people are using it has any one else written a
tutorial on using it or setting up also a twitter account etc in the
tutorial?

If they have could they send it on to me.


I have heard some third party twitter apps will not work after a certain
period of time some thing to do with changes with twitter is this one of
them?

Any help would be great.


Apart from setting up a twitter account and looking at this app i have
not gone any further.



Gene nz


Re: After a long time

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the tutorial that David Moore wrote on the windows mail program can be found at the following link at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

it also says how to add new people or contacts to the people app and covers other mail related material.


Gene nz



On 7/16/2018 2:04 AM, Sakina wrote:

Dear Friends,

I am once again seeking help after a long time.

My computer was set up using outlook and I had office 2003 which for some reason had stopped working since Christmas of last year.

Now my son has given window mail that is now working well and I am able to send and receive email happily.

I have managed to learn the basics but I am failing to add new contact in my people app that is what it says I believe.

Friends I will greatly appreciate for someone using window mail and can help me with step by step guidance.

I am using the same desk top which was window 7 and than upgraded to window ten

Now it is also updated to 18. Something.  And also have always used NVDA

Sorry for the ignorance. I hope I have made sense and I thank you all in advance for all your kind support.

With best wishes and thank you all again

Sakina

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: Is NVDA colourblind?

 

It's also worth noting that "heavy black heart" was approved when most emoji were presented in monochrome on many devices, too.

It would be interesting to see how many names assigned during the monochrome emoji period bear little resemblance to what they look like in beautiful living color today.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Is NVDA colourblind?

 

It's not that NVDA is colorblind, but that the emoji database is ridden with anachronisms.  See:

https://emojipedia.org/heavy-black-heart/     and    https://www.emojibase.com/emoji/2764/heavyblackheart 

Which, while heavy, is absolutely not black.  It seems that NVDA is reading the terminology that was approved way back in 1993 when this emoji was officially approved, and that the naming was never changed even though the graphic that goes with it certainly has.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Jeff's addon repository

Josh Kennedy
 

I have a mixture on my system. I have the legal sapi5 eloquence installed. But in case I get a feature update and I lose it, I also use the illegal addon even though I legally purchased and have a legal license to use sapi5 eloquence. The only difference is: my legal sapi5 eloquence works with my favorite games and stuff. and it works with NVDA. They should change the copyright law to state that: if you legally purchased any copy of eloquence, but if another unofficial copy works better in some circumstances then, as long as you can show proof that you own a legal copy, you can also use any illegal copies ... but at your own risk. I actually purchased two legal sapi5 eloquence keys. But I only use one of them. that's what it should say... use illegal eloquence at your own risk and we do not support it so take any such discussions off list. 


Re: Is NVDA colourblind?

Gene
 

The default dictionary reads items when you are reading in a way that doesn't go letter by letter.  You generally wouldn't want letter by letter reading to have the dictionary do anything, you read letter by letter to see exactly what is on the page, character by character. 
 
Also, I doubt the default dictionary sees an item in full unless it is only one character when reading by character.  If you have told the dictionary to pronounce data as datuh, with a short a, moving character by character wouldn't present the full word to the speech dictionary.  That is my assumption.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 3:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA colourblind?

Hello all,

I'm curious whether NVDA is colour blind. I have noticed this with two emoticons now, both of them involving hearts.

This one, ❤️, is spoken as "heavy black heart" and this one, ♥, as "black heart"

Having consulted sighted friends I have now described them as red heart in my NVDA default dictionary, but is this an NVDA glitch? I initially assumed it was a Facebook glitch because it was only there where I noticed the first one, but today I am reading a poetry book with one poem that is titled I ♥ NY in both the PDF and the text file I coppied the text into.

When I move word by word or use read line or say all I hear what I have programmed into the dictionary, but if I go character by character then I hear the black heart version.

I do currently have Chris Leo's Emoticons addin enabled, but didn't when I first heard the heavy black heart emoticon. The addin has not changed anything about the description of heavy black heart and I suspect it wouldn't change anything about the black heart if I uninstalled the addin.

Most of the time I don't care enough to check with a sighted person whether the emoticon that is described does indeed resample what NVDA describes it as, but with things like a black heart, which to me implied love in a sad situation such as after a death, it can be rather unsettling to learn that the emoticon is not as described. It was exactly that situation where I discovered the incorrect description. One of my friends used waht NVDA described to me as a heavy black heart and, when I asked whether the black heart was an indication of sadness, she told me that it was in fact a red heart.

Giles
 


Is NVDA colourblind?

Giles Turnbull
 

Hello all,

I'm curious whether NVDA is colour blind. I have noticed this with two emoticons now, both of them involving hearts.

This one, ❤️, is spoken as "heavy black heart" and this one, ♥, as "black heart"

Having consulted sighted friends I have now described them as red heart in my NVDA default dictionary, but is this an NVDA glitch? I initially assumed it was a Facebook glitch because it was only there where I noticed the first one, but today I am reading a poetry book with one poem that is titled I ♥ NY in both the PDF and the text file I coppied the text into.

When I move word by word or use read line or say all I hear what I have programmed into the dictionary, but if I go character by character then I hear the black heart version.

I do currently have Chris Leo's Emoticons addin enabled, but didn't when I first heard the heavy black heart emoticon. The addin has not changed anything about the description of heavy black heart and I suspect it wouldn't change anything about the black heart if I uninstalled the addin.

Most of the time I don't care enough to check with a sighted person whether the emoticon that is described does indeed resample what NVDA describes it as, but with things like a black heart, which to me implied love in a sad situation such as after a death, it can be rather unsettling to learn that the emoticon is not as described. It was exactly that situation where I discovered the incorrect description. One of my friends used waht NVDA described to me as a heavy black heart and, when I asked whether the black heart was an indication of sadness, she told me that it was in fact a red heart.

Giles
 


Re: Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Gene
 

In other browsers, links are identified as visited from history.  If you delete history, all visited link indications will be lost.  It's an interesting speculation as to whether Edge is not making history information available to browsers as it should.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 8:27 AM
Subject: [nvda] Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Hi Group,

With all this talk about Microsoft Edge recently, I am intrigued by the
one main flaw that I see.  All major navigation items seem to work quite
well such as headings, tables, lists, list items, combo boxes, buttons
and edit fields.  Of course as mentioned previously, the visited and
unvisited links function does not work.  If this is somehow ever fixed,
Edge will work great.  It gives great feedback for open  dialogues, the
notification bar, the save/save as dialogues and so on.

I wonder if some sort of add on could be set up to solve this one
significant issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




Re: Word 2016 crashes often

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

If the PDF had a lot of objects (IE, pictures) that were converted, it might be having trouble interacting with your screen-reader. I noticed this the other month when I converted a very large textbook to word format. At the time, I was using Word 2010, 32-bit. The 64-bit version does a better job of handling much larger files, from what I’ve so far observed, since acquiring Office 2016 64 not long ago. If there are a lot of pics in the document, you could try stripping them out. There are a couple of ways to do this – one involves creating a small macro. I found steps to do this on the web, and I currently can’t remember them. Maybe try find and replace first.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: July 15, 2018 2:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Word 2016 crashes often

 

I'm observing, when I convert a book from PDF to word and navigate it using NVDA, the word document crashes after 30-40 minutes approx.  This doesn't happen if I'm working on document which hasn't been converted from some other format, say when I'm writing a report in word itself
 
  Why is this happening, is this because of NVDA or ms word itself? 
Is this because  of the heavily formatted PDFs that I convert to word and word is not able to handle the formatting? 
All suggestions are welcome --
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

 

Hi,
Fixing this and other Edge issues require close collaboration between UI Automation and NVDA: UIA to expose the right attributes, and teaching NVDA to recognize new attributes.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Hi
For me the frames (m), list items(i) unvisited links (u), visited links (v) and block quotes (q) are unsupported browse quick keys when using edge.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: 15 July 2018 14:27
To: NVDA Official Group
Subject: [nvda] Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Hi Group,

With all this talk about Microsoft Edge recently, I am intrigued by the one main flaw that I see. All major navigation items seem to work quite well such as headings, tables, lists, list items, combo boxes, buttons and edit fields. Of course as mentioned previously, the visited and unvisited links function does not work. If this is somehow ever fixed, Edge will work great. It gives great feedback for open dialogues, the notification bar, the save/save as dialogues and so on.

I wonder if some sort of add on could be set up to solve this one significant issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA Technical Support: part 2 posted, things to do for part 3 on july 21st

 

Hi,
They are public (https://www.josephsl.net/tutorials).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of aikeo koomanivong
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 12:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Technical Support: part 2 posted, things to do for part 3 on july 21st

hi Joseph
thank you for good info
i visited your website but no public link to your mp3 file if you've a free time could you please make them to public link regards




On 7/15/18, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Try http instead of https link.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 9:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Technical Support: part 2 posted, things to
do for part 3 on july 21st



Hi, Joseph

Thanks for sharing the link for the tech support part 2. However, when
I am about to save the recorded file as mp3 to my machine I have no
luck to download it. The reason of asking for this is just in case I
wanted to review forward or perhaps to move to next I could easily
playback it from here. Thanks a lot.

Robert Mendoza



On 7/15/2018 1:21 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,



The second part of NVDA Technical Support: An Introduction webinar is
now
up:

https://www.josephsl.net/files/NVDATechSupportWebinar2.mp3



If you are curious about how the log file works or wanting to know how
to understand log entries, this is the part you don't want to skip.



Also, the third and final webinar in this series will take place on
July 21,
2018 at 11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC). We'll go over recognizing and
troubleshooting common NVDA problems. The location is the same:
josephsl.net
TeamTalk server.



Until then, help at least two people on various channels (users list,
Twitter, Facebook, etc.), with at least one of them involving reading
and understanding NVDA log. While doing that, come up with at least
three problems you or users may encounter as they use NVDA.



Lastly, if there is sufficient demand, I'll host a webinar in fall
2018 (around the time NVDA 2018.3 is being finalized) on how to use
Remote Support add-on for its intended purpose: technical support,
including attitudes, procedures, and activities people should NOT do
with this add-on.



Cheers,

Joseph









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Re: Wegbsites Crashing My Screenreader

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hello again:
I thank you all for your responses.
I use windows7-32 bit.
Actually, I don't know how to find out the information you are asking
me for on my computer. I don't know how to find out the amount of ram
the compiuter has, the disc space and free disc space. Please give me
some tips on how to get this information from my computer.
Added to that I set up Chrome at different times, and it simply
crashes: I just don't
understand why it happens. I don't even open web pages before this happens.
Regards.
Ibrahim.

On 7/15/18, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm having

said problem as well, in chrome.
Its like speech lags, restart NVDA, works fine for awhile, then back to
lag.
Its like, press down erro, then 2 seconds later, speech gets to wear I am.
I've had this laptop  for 7 years.
Windows 8.1, 64 bit, 4gigs of ram.
On 7/15/2018 5:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have issues on some sites like this and its probably the site.




On 7/15/2018 8:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
On the face of it it sounds like all browsers are reacting to some
issue on the machine itself to me, but as has been said we would need
more info to be able to say what that might be. Sadly often when
something goes bad in Windows its very hard to figure it out.
This is why so many people suggest a complete reinstall, but lets not
give up yet. maybe somebody will recognise the symptoms.
I'm assuming that the normal functions like browse and focus mode
work in the browsers you use normally?
It might also be interesting to know if you have an anti virus other
then Microsoft's own.

When you say Chrome does not work. is this work at all or does it
just not read pages?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Ajayi" <kobisko@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] Wegbsites Crashing My Screenreader


Hi good people:
I'm having a very unusual problem with my PC.  When I am on some
websites, the sites simply crash my screen reader, making it
impossible to browse.  I have to relaunch the screenreader all over
again.  It happens with JAWS and NVDA on my system.  With NVDA
sometimes when it happens, I have to shut down the computer outright.
Has anyone ever experienced this problem.  What might be the cause.
I don't have this problem when I am offline doing some other work on
the computer.  But when I am on the internet, it is a problem. It
happens on the two browsers I use, internet explorer and firefox.
Google chrome is not working on my PC.  I don't understand why this is
the case.  I have installed and re-installed it several times.
Can anyone think of a cause and a possible solution.
Kind regards.
From Ibrahim.











Re: Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
For me the frames (m), list items(i) unvisited links (u), visited links (v) and block quotes (q) are unsupported browse quick keys when using edge.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: 15 July 2018 14:27
To: NVDA Official Group
Subject: [nvda] Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Hi Group,

With all this talk about Microsoft Edge recently, I am intrigued by the
one main flaw that I see. All major navigation items seem to work quite
well such as headings, tables, lists, list items, combo boxes, buttons
and edit fields. Of course as mentioned previously, the visited and
unvisited links function does not work. If this is somehow ever fixed,
Edge will work great. It gives great feedback for open dialogues, the
notification bar, the save/save as dialogues and so on.

I wonder if some sort of add on could be set up to solve this one
significant issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


After a long time

Sakina
 

Dear Friends,

I am once again seeking help after a long time.

My computer was set up using outlook and I had office 2003 which for some reason had stopped working since Christmas of last year.

Now my son has given window mail that is now working well and I am able to send and receive email happily.

I have managed to learn the basics but I am failing to add new contact in my people app that is what it says I believe.

Friends I will greatly appreciate for someone using window mail and can help me with step by step guidance.

I am using the same desk top which was window 7 and than upgraded to window ten

Now it is also updated to 18. Something.  And also have always used NVDA

Sorry for the ignorance. I hope I have made sense and I thank you all in advance for all your kind support.

With best wishes and thank you all again

Sakina

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA focus problem.

Richard Wells
 

To a sighted person, the ALT+TAB looks completely different and has a completely new look and feel. Sadly, it also confuses screen access technology.

On 7/15/2018 12:51 AM, John Isige wrote:
Cool. But what are the differences, do you know? I mean, if it weren't
for this issue, I'd have no idea that they changed anything. It appears,
on the surface, to work exactly as it always has.


On 7/14/2018 21:19, Richard Wells wrote:
John: It returned the ALT+TAB function to the way it worked in
previous Windows revisions.


On 7/14/2018 9:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
What does it do? I mean I accept that it's solved the problem for you,
but why?


On 7/14/2018 18:22, Richard Wells wrote:
I cured this by adding the following key and value to my registry:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"AltTabSettings"=dword:00000001

If you just want a .reg file for merging this into your registry, open
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ju6rmd6go0pyune/AltTabSettings.reg?dl=1 and
get it that way. Of course, you should back up your registry before
making this change, though I have modified several Windows 10
computers with this. Again, this advice is free and you get what you
pay for.


On 7/14/2018 2:42 PM, George McCoy wrote:
   Hi John,

I have the same problem.  You have described it perfectly. It
certainly is annoying.

I'm running windows 10 pro 64 bit on a HP Elitebook 8440W.

George

-----Original Message----- From: John Isige
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA focus problem.

Hi all. I've noticed this for a couple of versions of both NVDA and
Windows 10. When I switch windows with alt-tab, it seems like NVDA
doesn't get full focus. For example, suppose I'm listening to a track,
so I have two windows open, a Windows Explorer window with files, and
Foobar 2000, or Winamp, or whatever media player I'm using. I want to
alt-tab, let's say to turn repeat on or off or to see how much time
remains in the file.


If I do that, it seems like the commands work, but NVDA doesn't
read the
window. For instance, right now if I play a song and alt-tab to
Winamp's
window, i can hit keys and they work, e.g. 'v' to stop, 'x' to
play. But
if I read the window title with NVDA-t, it says "explorer". The
title is
read correctly with alt-tab, but when I release alt-tab, I seem to be
both in the window, and not in the window, as it were. The commands
for
the program work, but NVDA things, e.g. hitting ctrl-shift-r in Winamp
or Foobar to get the remaining time, don't.


Is there a way to fix this? A different screen resolution or
something?
In theory mine's set to 1024/768, unless Windows changed it after an
update. BTW this gets fixed if I alt-tab back to another window,
release
alt-tab until that window comes up, and then alt-tab back to the other
window, Foobar or whatever. When I do that it reads like it should and
NVDA commands work and all. That's nothing earth-shattering of course,
but it is fairly annoying, since it happens on a regular basis.














Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

With all this talk about Microsoft Edge recently, I am intrigued by the one main flaw that I see.  All major navigation items seem to work quite well such as headings, tables, lists, list items, combo boxes, buttons and edit fields.  Of course as mentioned previously, the visited and unvisited links function does not work.  If this is somehow ever fixed, Edge will work great.  It gives great feedback for open  dialogues, the notification bar, the save/save as dialogues and so on.

I wonder if some sort of add on could be set up to solve this one significant issue.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Wegbsites Crashing My Screenreader

Matt Turner
 

I'm having

said problem as well, in chrome.
Its like speech lags, restart NVDA, works fine for awhile, then back to lag.
Its like, press down erro, then 2 seconds later, speech gets to wear I am.
I've had this laptop  for 7 years.
Windows 8.1, 64 bit, 4gigs of ram.

On 7/15/2018 5:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have issues on some sites like this and its probably the site.




On 7/15/2018 8:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
On the face of it it sounds like all browsers are reacting to some issue on the machine itself to me, but as has been said we would need more info to be able to say what that might be. Sadly often when something goes bad in Windows its very hard to figure it out.
This is why so many people suggest a complete reinstall, but lets not give up yet. maybe somebody will recognise the symptoms.
I'm assuming that the normal functions like browse and focus mode work in the browsers you use normally?
It might also be interesting to know if you have an anti virus other then Microsoft's own.

When you say Chrome does not work. is this work at all or does it just not read pages?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Ajayi" <kobisko@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] Wegbsites Crashing My Screenreader


Hi good people:
I'm having a very unusual problem with my PC.  When I am on some
websites, the sites simply crash my screen reader, making it
impossible to browse.  I have to relaunch the screenreader all over
again.  It happens with JAWS and NVDA on my system.  With NVDA
sometimes when it happens, I have to shut down the computer outright.
Has anyone ever experienced this problem.  What might be the cause.
I don't have this problem when I am offline doing some other work on
the computer.  But when I am on the internet, it is a problem. It
happens on the two browsers I use, internet explorer and firefox.
Google chrome is not working on my PC.  I don't understand why this is
the case.  I have installed and re-installed it several times.
Can anyone think of a cause and a possible solution.
Kind regards.
From Ibrahim.







Re: Microsoft Edge is Starting to Grow on Me.

David Moore
 

Yes, NVDA and edge are working better for me than Chrome as well.

I am very excited as well about how much feedback I get in Edge.

For example, NVDA will say:

Do you want to save or open the file, and gives a key command.

Chrome does not give you that feedback.

It is very exciting, because edge can do so much.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Kenny
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 1:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Edge is Starting to Grow on Me.

 

When I use the Try-Build, NVDA works with Microsoft Edge perfectly. Have no problems with anything, but sometimes being thrown in the icons pain of Edge. There is something about this build that my PC running the latest build of Windows 10 Spring Creator loves.

 

Even ETI Eloquence sounds fuller and responds better when using it.

 

Is there a list or something I can subscribe too for alerts on any updates? I'm sticking with this as my primary screen reader even though Joseph warns me against doing so. Sorry, but it works much better for me overall, especially with Edge.

 

On 7/14/2018 11:15 AM, Kevin wrote:

In Edge all the shortcut keys ctrl+j and ctrl+I works, at least with jaws 2018!

Are you having a problem with NVDA in Edge saying entering navigation, exiting navigation; entering search, exiting search etc…

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Kenny
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 9:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Edge is Starting to Grow on Me.

 

Good day,

 

 

Well with Joseph's announcement about the NVDA Try Build, I decided to

invest more time in using Microsoft's applications on my Windows 10 PC.

 

 

Started things off with the Microsoft Edge browser.

 

 

Not sure if it's the new Try-Build or a lot of changes have recently

been made to Edge overall, but it works pretty damn well with NVDA.

 

 

NVDA reads All of the push notification bar messages automatically. It

also informs me when the page has fully loaded (Loading complete.) Most

of the NVDA quick navigation key shortcuts do work to quickly jump

through web content.

 

 

Love... love... love... the Reading View ([Ctrl]+[Shift]+[r]) feature of

Edge. This alone is starting to make me a Chrome to Edge convert.

 

 

I hate to say it, but managing Favorites in Edge is much much easier to

do then with Chrome in my humble opinion. Microsoft uses a traditional

Treeview structure in their manager. Very nice!

 

 

The only problem I'm having is when I find myself sometimes being placed

in the toolbar icons pain of Edge. I quickly jump back to the web page

content by pressing [F6]. I just get annoyed with this at times.

 

 

Curious why they don't implement a shortcut key to display that entire

pain (Similar to [Ctrl]+[i] for Favorites, [Ctrl]+[h] for History, and

[Ctrl]+[j] for Downloads?) I could simply hit the [Escape] key to

hide/dismiss it again.

 

 

Reading Joseph's recent email regarding the Try-Build of NVDA being

released and us really caring about the changes Microsoft is

implementing all the time to make their line of Windows applications

more accessible got me thinking.

 

 

Why can't I give their programs a chance? Yes, in the past I've

experienced a lot of problems with their applications. That doesn't mean

they've not made efforts to correct things (Due to feedback from Insider

testers and bug reports.)

 

 

Time for me to start using the free tools Microsoft has developed and

stop searching for replacements. And I mean all of the tools (Even the

bug report and feedback submission tools.) This is key to helping

Microsoft fix things they may not yet be aware of.

 

 

By the way, if you want a nice resource listing Microsoft Edge keyboard

shortcuts:

 

Visit

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/5620-microsoft-edge-keyboard-shortcuts-list.html

 

 

It really has morphed into a pretty good browser. I'm going to start

using it more.

 

-Kenny