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Re: kRe: Word 2016 crashes often

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Well, I guess the only way to solve this would be to ask the developers of nvda and see if they have any ideas. The question being on here I would have thought by now might have spawned some other people with large files who either do or do not have the same issues as you are having. Myself I do not use such large files and only occasionally use annotation etc, so its hard for me to be any help over the issue.
I think NV Access needs a go to person for such situations as this one to see if its an issue or some other problem is causing the problem.
If Libra Office cannot access the features you need without a browse mode then I will bow to your superior knowledge, but I used word a long time before we got browse mode in it.


Brian

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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] kRe: Word 2016 crashes often


But, no browse mode in Libre Office would mean loss of essential navigating features, like navigating with annotations or headings?
They are essential for my work.
I will try to save the word document as editable copy , instead of exact copy, in Abby Fine Reader. let's see if it helps.


Re: Jeff's addon repository

Ervin, Glenn
 

I wonder if the dectalk one is the access32, a software dectalk.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository

 

Your message may have the effect of discouraging use of add ons that are, as far as I know, legal and probably work.  The kind of notice you are discussing about requiring a synthesizer is for add ons like the Dectalk Express add on.  That add on allows the Dectalk Express to work with NVDA.  You are told in the information for that Add On that you need the Dectalk Express to use it.  The DecTalk Express is an external synthesizer.  So of course you need the synthesizer. 

 

I believe there is an add on that allows the Double Talk synthesizer to work as well.  I assume the same warning is given because that is an external synthesizer. 

 

I'm not generalizing in any way about what add ons are current and which ones may or may not work with Windows 10, for example and, of course, NVDA is going to be changing over time and many add ons on that page may not work with new versions of NVDA in the relatively near future.  But we need to be clear about synthesizer add ons.  Those that talk about needing a synthesizer are, as I recall the page, for those that work with external synthesizers. 

 

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository

 

I have not looked lately to know what this add on is, but it used to
actually say that it would only work on machines where a free to use version
of the synth was installed. This would indicate to me that its either Via
Voice or a very old copy  used with Jaws prehistoric versions!

If the add on is very old it may not even work on newer versions of nvda in
any case. I think the site does hove abandoned and older versions of all
sorts of bits and pieces and really any of them are truly at the users own
risk. we here cannot condone their use as we have no idea where a lot of
them come from.
 Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository


That isn't a legal add on.  Eloquence can be purchased legally.  There is a
SAPI5 version that can work with any program that supports SAPI5 speech and
there is a legal add on that can be purchased.  The add on, however, has
very poor speech because the Eloquence speech has a lot of artifacts.  The
SAPI 5 version doesn't have these artifacts.

There are demos of both Eloquence speech programs available so you can try
them.

But regarding your original question, the list doesn't offer support on
illegal software as a matter of list policy.

Gene
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:03 PM
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Subject: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository


Hi!
I'm new to all this. Somebody suggested to use eloquence addon for NVDA.
It's available on this website called, Jeff's Repository. Is is  safe to
download from there?

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Sociohack






Re: Twitter on a windows 10 machine

matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic483@...>
 

Hi,


I am currently using tw-blue latest snapshot which works just fine for me.  NOTE, if you use the latest stable, you will not be able to authorize it as the web browser willl not come up to allow you to give it access.  This is fixed in the latest snapshot.


Matthew

On 07/15/2018 06:06 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
"Doable" and "accessible"? I guess in a broad and technical sense, yes, but not in any efficient or practical sort of manner.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 5:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter on a windows 10 machine

By the way i for got to say i heard it can be done through the browser has any one done it that way? is it fully accessible and also has any one done a tutorial on using it with nvda?


Gene nz



On 7/16/2018 11:57 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi guys


Is any one on this list using the windows twitter app? is it accessible?
or not really?


If it is accessible and people are using it has any one else written a
tutorial on using it or setting up also a twitter account etc in the
tutorial?

If they have could they send it on to me.


I have heard some third party twitter apps will not work after a
certain period of time some thing to do with changes with twitter is
this one of them?

Any help would be great.


Apart from setting up a twitter account and looking at this app i have
not gone any further.



Gene nz









Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] chrome not that accessible in m.facebook.com

Ervin, Glenn
 

I knew that was the problem, I had just told him to replace the M with WWW, but I wanted others to know about this.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] chrome not that accessible in m.facebook.com

 

Pictures do not look so great on it. It’s optimised for mobile use, as the name implies. If you send him a link, next time just replace the “m” with “www” in the url.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: July 12, 2018 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] chrome not that accessible in m.facebook.com

 

Funny though, I always use the mobile site too, and it works well, and I sent a link to my sighted brother to have him look at the picture to see if this was our cousin, and he said the link I sent him gave him a page that was messed up on his computer.  He said it was a page for a person with that name, but he could not make sense of it.

 

So maybe the mobile site is not good for people not using a screenreader.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] chrome not that accessible in m.facebook.com

 

Hi guys!

The mobile site of Facebook,

m.facebook.com

works the very best in IE 11

That is the only site I use in IE LOL! I like it better than Firefox, Even.

I have tried using Chrome and Edge for using the mobile site, and it is a lot different.

It is tricky LOL!

Have a great one, guys!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Claire Potter
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 3:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome not that accessible in m.facebook.com

 

Hi, I know exactly what you mean, for that reason I use Firefox, it actually works. 

Warm regards, Claire Potter, Check out my brand new website: http://www.pottersplace.me.uk/

On 12/07/2018 20:23, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Hi folks

I am making my first steps with chrome.

I find that sometimes buttons and elements are not clickable in m.facebook.com and that the tab key is not always responding normally.

F.e. if you click on a friend and wants him or her to be defriended, you can’t find that item or click the friend or follow button. I have already changed some settings like adding some accessibility tools to read webpages with the arrow keys and disabled the hardware accelerators which often is advised when working with screenreaders.

Regards

Davy

 

 


Re: Is NVDA colourblind?

Jonathan COHN
 

The emoji system is defined as the names our screen readers often read and then it is up to the font creators to display a symbol that represents the definition. A few years back, it became possible to add colors / tints to at least person emoji so that they would be more multi-cultural. I don't know if that is what happens with the hearts too, in that one can apply a shade to heavy black heart to change its visual meaning. Another feature that is possible with emoji is to have more than one at a specific position, and I would not be surprised if screen readers have  difficulty indicating these overloads.  What happens if you ask for the text attributes of the heart?

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

 


Re: Open office and libreoffice in terms of accessability

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Does Libre office support browse  mode with NVDA? If not, then how do we navigate heading to heading and annotation to annotation?
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Re: Is NVDA colourblind?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I’ve wondered this too.  Heavy Black Heart is how it is pronounced on Android phones as well.  On the iPhone though, I believe it says correctly, Red Heart.

 

So it could be a speech synth thing.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: 15 July 2018 21:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA colourblind?

 

Hello all,

I'm curious whether NVDA is colour blind. I have noticed this with two emoticons now, both of them involving hearts.

This one, ️, is spoken as "heavy black heart" and this one, , as "black heart"

Having consulted sighted friends I have now described them as red heart in my NVDA default dictionary, but is this an NVDA glitch? I initially assumed it was a Facebook glitch because it was only there where I noticed the first one, but today I am reading a poetry book with one poem that is titled I NY in both the PDF and the text file I coppied the text into.

When I move word by word or use read line or say all I hear what I have programmed into the dictionary, but if I go character by character then I hear the black heart version.

I do currently have Chris Leo's Emoticons addin enabled, but didn't when I first heard the heavy black heart emoticon. The addin has not changed anything about the description of heavy black heart and I suspect it wouldn't change anything about the black heart if I uninstalled the addin.

Most of the time I don't care enough to check with a sighted person whether the emoticon that is described does indeed resample what NVDA describes it as, but with things like a black heart, which to me implied love in a sad situation such as after a death, it can be rather unsettling to learn that the emoticon is not as described. It was exactly that situation where I discovered the incorrect description. One of my friends used waht NVDA described to me as a heavy black heart and, when I asked whether the black heart was an indication of sadness, she told me that it was in fact a red heart.

Giles
 


Re: Using PDF and EPUB with NVDA

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Not unless the way the formatted files was made allows for it ahead of time. I think only the authors can allow such things.The whole idea, after all is the unchangability of the text in these formats.
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 7:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Using PDF and EPUB with NVDA


Hello guys!
I need to add comments and highlight text for revision later on. Can all this be done in native PDF and epub itself? Please let me know if this is possible. I don't know much about navigating PDFs and epub with NVDA. Have always converted them to word.
It would be great if I could on the native PDF and epub itself.
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Regards,
Sociohack


kRe: Word 2016 crashes often

Akshaya Choudhary
 

But, no browse mode in Libre Office would mean loss of essential navigating features, like navigating with annotations or headings?
They are essential for my work.
I will try to save the word document as editable copy , instead of exact copy, in Abby Fine Reader. let's see if it helps.


Re: Twitter on a windows 10 machine

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I don't use twitter, but I believe that Twitter are removing an API that has advanced functions they say to make things simpler, but we all know its to get folk to use their site or their apps so the adverts can be seen.They are supposed to be releasing a much more detailed api, but are charging for use per user, which basically means that they are making a charge to avoid adverts. Strangely (ironic grin) not many third party twitter client writers have expressed any interest.
Brian

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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 12:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] Twitter on a windows 10 machine


Hi guys


Is any one on this list using the windows twitter app? is it accessible?
or not really?


If it is accessible and people are using it has any one else written a
tutorial on using it or setting up also a twitter account etc in the
tutorial?

If they have could they send it on to me.


I have heard some third party twitter apps will not work after a certain
period of time some thing to do with changes with twitter is this one of
them?

Any help would be great.


Apart from setting up a twitter account and looking at this app i have
not gone any further.



Gene nz





Re: Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The question is, is there any way a sighted person can see visited links?
If yes and its in a way which can exist in the browse mode buffer, then I guess it could but I've read the info and suspect not, at least not at the moment.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Interesting Observations About NVDA And Edge Browser


Hi Group,

With all this talk about Microsoft Edge recently, I am intrigued by the one main flaw that I see. All major navigation items seem to work quite well such as headings, tables, lists, list items, combo boxes, buttons and edit fields. Of course as mentioned previously, the visited and unvisited links function does not work. If this is somehow ever fixed, Edge will work great. It gives great feedback for open dialogues, the notification bar, the save/save as dialogues and so on.

I wonder if some sort of add on could be set up to solve this one significant issue.

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Re: Word 2016 crashes often

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However I read that it does not crash for the sighted, which is a little worrying, and means perhaps that the virtual buffer created by word is just too big for nvda to cope with. In this case it might work better in Libra Office as it does not implement a browse mode for nvda.

Just a thought.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Word 2016 crashes often


If the PDF had a lot of objects (IE, pictures) that were converted, it might be having trouble interacting with your screen-reader. I noticed this the other month when I converted a very large textbook to word format. At the time, I was using Word 2010, 32-bit. The 64-bit version does a better job of handling much larger files, from what I’ve so far observed, since acquiring Office 2016 64 not long ago. If there are a lot of pics in the document, you could try stripping them out. There are a couple of ways to do this – one involves creating a small macro. I found steps to do this on the web, and I currently can’t remember them. Maybe try find and replace first.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: July 15, 2018 2:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Word 2016 crashes often



I'm observing, when I convert a book from PDF to word and navigate it using NVDA, the word document crashes after 30-40 minutes approx. This doesn't happen if I'm working on document which hasn't been converted from some other format, say when I'm writing a report in word itself

Why is this happening, is this because of NVDA or ms word itself?
Is this because of the heavily formatted PDFs that I convert to word and word is not able to handle the formatting?
All suggestions are welcome --
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: NVDA focus problem.

Quentin Christensen
 

Are you using alt+tab or windows+tab?  Windows+tab has definitely changed a lot with the timeline etc (although NVDA still works with it), but alt+tab looks and behaves much like it ever has.  I can't reproduce the title bar reading "explorer" myself (either with the latest alpha build or with NVDA 2018.2.1, both on Windows 10 fast insider), but perhaps if someone can, could you try pressing NVDA+F1 to open the log and give information about where the focus is, and if you copy the whole thing and send it to me in an email to info@... I can have a look.

For those having problems, what machine are you running and what other software?  EG, someone mentioned using a HP laptop - they are notorious for filling the notification area with their own little programs and utilities - as all laptop manufacturers do - but at times, some of those can have invisible windows which can cause interesting bugs like this (and since I'm using a vanilla desktop, it would explain why I can't repro it).  Also are you using any anti-virus software other than Windows defender?  That can often cause issues as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hi!
On the other hand, it's been out there long enough for screen reading technology to catch up, unless the new way still has inconsistencies, of course. Then it would be Microsoft's turn to fix those in an update.
It is a fact, however, that focus isn't just lost when alt+tabbing but for instance also in many cases when a new window is opened by activating a desktop icon. So alt+tab may be part of the story but it is not comprehensive. In the worst case, alt+tab may be a distraction from a much more basic problem, which just so happens to become exacerbated when alt+tabbing.
Best,
Felix

Richard Wells <richwels@...> schrieb am So., 15. Juli 2018 um 15:31 Uhr:
To a sighted person, the ALT+TAB looks completely different and has a
completely new look and feel. Sadly, it also confuses screen access
technology.


On 7/15/2018 12:51 AM, John Isige wrote:
> Cool. But what are the differences, do you know? I mean, if it weren't
> for this issue, I'd have no idea that they changed anything. It appears,
> on the surface, to work exactly as it always has.
>
>
> On 7/14/2018 21:19, Richard Wells wrote:
>> John: It returned the ALT+TAB function to the way it worked in
>> previous Windows revisions.
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/2018 9:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
>>> What does it do? I mean I accept that it's solved the problem for you,
>>> but why?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2018 18:22, Richard Wells wrote:
>>>> I cured this by adding the following key and value to my registry:
>>>>
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>>>> "AltTabSettings"=dword:00000001
>>>>
>>>> If you just want a .reg file for merging this into your registry, open
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ju6rmd6go0pyune/AltTabSettings.reg?dl=1 and
>>>> get it that way. Of course, you should back up your registry before
>>>> making this change, though I have modified several Windows 10
>>>> computers with this. Again, this advice is free and you get what you
>>>> pay for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/14/2018 2:42 PM, George McCoy wrote:
>>>>>    Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same problem.  You have described it perfectly. It
>>>>> certainly is annoying.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running windows 10 pro 64 bit on a HP Elitebook 8440W.
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: John Isige
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:46 PM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA focus problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all. I've noticed this for a couple of versions of both NVDA and
>>>>> Windows 10. When I switch windows with alt-tab, it seems like NVDA
>>>>> doesn't get full focus. For example, suppose I'm listening to a
>>>>> track,
>>>>> so I have two windows open, a Windows Explorer window with files, and
>>>>> Foobar 2000, or Winamp, or whatever media player I'm using. I want to
>>>>> alt-tab, let's say to turn repeat on or off or to see how much time
>>>>> remains in the file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I do that, it seems like the commands work, but NVDA doesn't
>>>>> read the
>>>>> window. For instance, right now if I play a song and alt-tab to
>>>>> Winamp's
>>>>> window, i can hit keys and they work, e.g. 'v' to stop, 'x' to
>>>>> play. But
>>>>> if I read the window title with NVDA-t, it says "explorer". The
>>>>> title is
>>>>> read correctly with alt-tab, but when I release alt-tab, I seem to be
>>>>> both in the window, and not in the window, as it were. The commands
>>>>> for
>>>>> the program work, but NVDA things, e.g. hitting ctrl-shift-r in
>>>>> Winamp
>>>>> or Foobar to get the remaining time, don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to fix this? A different screen resolution or
>>>>> something?
>>>>> In theory mine's set to 1024/768, unless Windows changed it after an
>>>>> update. BTW this gets fixed if I alt-tab back to another window,
>>>>> release
>>>>> alt-tab until that window comes up, and then alt-tab back to the
>>>>> other
>>>>> window, Foobar or whatever. When I do that it reads like it should
>>>>> and
>>>>> NVDA commands work and all. That's nothing earth-shattering of
>>>>> course,
>>>>> but it is fairly annoying, since it happens on a regular basis.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>







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Using PDF and EPUB with NVDA

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello guys!
I need to add comments and highlight text for revision later on. Can all this be done in native PDF and epub itself? Please let me know if this is possible. I don't know much about navigating PDFs and epub with NVDA.  Have always converted them to word. 
 It would be great if I could on the native PDF and epub itself. 
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: NVDA focus problem.

Felix G.
 

Hi!
On the other hand, it's been out there long enough for screen reading technology to catch up, unless the new way still has inconsistencies, of course. Then it would be Microsoft's turn to fix those in an update.
It is a fact, however, that focus isn't just lost when alt+tabbing but for instance also in many cases when a new window is opened by activating a desktop icon. So alt+tab may be part of the story but it is not comprehensive. In the worst case, alt+tab may be a distraction from a much more basic problem, which just so happens to become exacerbated when alt+tabbing.
Best,
Felix

Richard Wells <richwels@...> schrieb am So., 15. Juli 2018 um 15:31 Uhr:

To a sighted person, the ALT+TAB looks completely different and has a
completely new look and feel. Sadly, it also confuses screen access
technology.


On 7/15/2018 12:51 AM, John Isige wrote:
> Cool. But what are the differences, do you know? I mean, if it weren't
> for this issue, I'd have no idea that they changed anything. It appears,
> on the surface, to work exactly as it always has.
>
>
> On 7/14/2018 21:19, Richard Wells wrote:
>> John: It returned the ALT+TAB function to the way it worked in
>> previous Windows revisions.
>>
>>
>> On 7/14/2018 9:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
>>> What does it do? I mean I accept that it's solved the problem for you,
>>> but why?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/14/2018 18:22, Richard Wells wrote:
>>>> I cured this by adding the following key and value to my registry:
>>>>
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>>>> "AltTabSettings"=dword:00000001
>>>>
>>>> If you just want a .reg file for merging this into your registry, open
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ju6rmd6go0pyune/AltTabSettings.reg?dl=1 and
>>>> get it that way. Of course, you should back up your registry before
>>>> making this change, though I have modified several Windows 10
>>>> computers with this. Again, this advice is free and you get what you
>>>> pay for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/14/2018 2:42 PM, George McCoy wrote:
>>>>>    Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same problem.  You have described it perfectly. It
>>>>> certainly is annoying.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running windows 10 pro 64 bit on a HP Elitebook 8440W.
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: John Isige
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 12:46 PM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA focus problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all. I've noticed this for a couple of versions of both NVDA and
>>>>> Windows 10. When I switch windows with alt-tab, it seems like NVDA
>>>>> doesn't get full focus. For example, suppose I'm listening to a
>>>>> track,
>>>>> so I have two windows open, a Windows Explorer window with files, and
>>>>> Foobar 2000, or Winamp, or whatever media player I'm using. I want to
>>>>> alt-tab, let's say to turn repeat on or off or to see how much time
>>>>> remains in the file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I do that, it seems like the commands work, but NVDA doesn't
>>>>> read the
>>>>> window. For instance, right now if I play a song and alt-tab to
>>>>> Winamp's
>>>>> window, i can hit keys and they work, e.g. 'v' to stop, 'x' to
>>>>> play. But
>>>>> if I read the window title with NVDA-t, it says "explorer". The
>>>>> title is
>>>>> read correctly with alt-tab, but when I release alt-tab, I seem to be
>>>>> both in the window, and not in the window, as it were. The commands
>>>>> for
>>>>> the program work, but NVDA things, e.g. hitting ctrl-shift-r in
>>>>> Winamp
>>>>> or Foobar to get the remaining time, don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to fix this? A different screen resolution or
>>>>> something?
>>>>> In theory mine's set to 1024/768, unless Windows changed it after an
>>>>> update. BTW this gets fixed if I alt-tab back to another window,
>>>>> release
>>>>> alt-tab until that window comes up, and then alt-tab back to the
>>>>> other
>>>>> window, Foobar or whatever. When I do that it reads like it should
>>>>> and
>>>>> NVDA commands work and all. That's nothing earth-shattering of
>>>>> course,
>>>>> but it is fairly annoying, since it happens on a regular basis.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Twitter on a windows 10 machine

Akshaya Choudhary
 

I don't know about the app, but the website is very accessable. You can either use NVDA  browse mode options or you can  use Twitter's own shortcut keys while staying in focus mode. There is a tutorial on AFB's website. Check that out.
Also follow me on twitter by searching for sociohack ac.  
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Regards,
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Re: Is NVDA colourblind?

Mohamed
 

Actually, I don't think NVDA ever had an emoji dictionary, so any pronunciation oddity is probably the fault of the synthesizer. Though there is an emoji symbols dictionary floating around the web, and that does use somewhat outdated emoji definitions. I personally use a modified version of that dictionary, adding emojis as I find them.


On 7/15/2018 7:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
It's not that NVDA is colorblind, but that the emoji database is ridden with anachronisms.  See:

https://emojipedia.org/heavy-black-heart/     and    https://www.emojibase.com/emoji/2764/heavyblackheart 

Which, while heavy, is absolutely not black.  It seems that NVDA is reading the terminology that was approved way back in 1993 when this emoji was officially approved, and that the naming was never changed even though the graphic that goes with it certainly has.

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    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 



Re: Twitter on a windows 10 machine

Cristóbal
 

"Doable" and "accessible"? I guess in a broad and technical sense, yes, but not in any efficient or practical sort of manner.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2018 5:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Twitter on a windows 10 machine

By the way i for got to say i heard it can be done through the browser has any one done it that way? is it fully accessible and also has any one done a tutorial on using it with nvda?


Gene nz



On 7/16/2018 11:57 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi guys


Is any one on this list using the windows twitter app? is it accessible?
or not really?


If it is accessible and people are using it has any one else written a
tutorial on using it or setting up also a twitter account etc in the
tutorial?

If they have could they send it on to me.


I have heard some third party twitter apps will not work after a
certain period of time some thing to do with changes with twitter is
this one of them?

Any help would be great.


Apart from setting up a twitter account and looking at this app i have
not gone any further.



Gene nz





Re: Request for a new NVDA feature

Quentin Christensen
 

This comes up now and then.  In short, it's mostly left to the synthesizer to control the length of pauses.  It is possible to change to some degree if you open the NVDA menu, go to preferences then "punctuation / symbol pronunciation", you could choose whether to send a symbol to the synthesizer or not.  That dialog is mostly designed to change how symbols are pronounced (eg to read ! as exclaim rather than bang), and I haven't experimented with trying to use it to change pauses, but if you do, please do let us know how it goes.

I thought there had been at least one issue on this in the past, but can't find it on our GitHub issue tracker: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 1:46 AM, Sociohack AC <acsociopath@...> wrote:
Someone on reddit told me that in Voice Dream Reader you can control the duration of the pauses after punctuation and sentence break. It would be great to have similar feature for NVDA.  SAPI 5 voices do provide intonation pauses, but they also provide pauses after command keys, which makes them slow for general navigation. Maybe, we could have a feature enabling the users to toggle between extended pauses and short pauses.  For general navigation short pauses will be great, like they are in Espeak, and for reading long documents long pauses would be very helpful, like they are in SAPI 5 voices.
Someone please introduce this feature.  --
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Regards,
Sociohack




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Re: After a long time

 

By the way, if you have been using any mail client and have a lot of contacts that you'd like to have in the People App, then export them from your current client in CSV format and then read:

It's a heck of a lot easier and way less tedious than manually reentering them, even if you only ever log in to Outlook.com to do this import.

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    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel