Re: Tips for speed reading /listening with screen readers
Akshaya Choudhary
You get used to it. Words don't run into each other, you can recognize them as you do at slower speeds. Default speeds are too slow and inefficient for navigating around. You can easily go beyond default speeds, how high, that is a question. And, perhaps depends from person to person.
By flutter I mean, a kind of shiver in the voice or the voice getting more robotic than usual. In E-speak it occurs at 100% and at alll boost mode rates. It is still comprehensible, just annoying. -- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: NVDA vs. Narrator: NVDA still wins.
what is stream labs and obs?
On 7/16/2018 9:22 PM, Sarah k Alawami
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I have used narrator wiht firefox, chrome and edge. All work ok, some better thanothrs. I also use narrator with stream labs and obs. -- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: Tips for speed reading /listening with screen readers
Sharni-Lee Ward
I don't try to listen at faster speeds than the default. How the hell can you notice a flutter when the speech is so fast the words run together?
On 17/07/2018 4:24 PM, Sociohack AC wrote:
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Re: Tips for speed reading /listening with screen readers
Akshaya Choudhary
I'm so used to E-speak that Eloquence is incoherent to me. But, the flutter you get in E-speak in the boost mode is hindering me to achieve faster speeds. So, I'm forcing myself to get used to Eloquence. And yes, the so called natural sounding synthesizers are not as good at high speeds. But then, SAPI5 and one core voices aren't much behind if we compare them to these so called natural voices at moderate voices. I tried a demo of Acapella, didn't like it much. It's high quality voices do sound good, and more human like, but you can't use them at high speeds. The speech becomes incoherent. There is a clatter in the background. When it comes to high speed functionality, there is nothing better than E[speak and Eloquence.
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Sharni-Lee Ward
Okay, so I updated to the latest Skype because I didn't want to lose
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settings and whatnot. It's ... not as bad as I feared. The latest version is 8.25 and the interface is more understandable than I thought it was last year. Alt doesn't do anything, which sucks, but the buttons and the dialogues that open when you press them make more sense the more I delve into it. The one issue I thought I'd have is being able to read my chat history, but there's an option to export that as an HTML file and Google Chrome doesn't flip a lid if the document is too big like Firefox sometimes can. And my entire chat history for the last year and a half (since I moved to this computer in other words) has been exported in that file. I assume I can just keep doing that whenever I've had a super long conversation.
On 17/07/2018 3:26 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
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Do not forget the web version of skype 2 i here also use both skype desk top at present and the app version. There is a tutorial for desk top and app but not web yet it is written and a audio one just not corrected yet. Gene nz
On 7/17/2018 4:56 PM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
I just want to find something with a simple, accessible interface that
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Well aparently new skype is supposed to be having the same interface so maybe I try it and see.
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On 7/17/2018 3:06 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Alright then, Shaun I will wait further instructions more on how to shift to new line of Skype version from here but surely the rest of the folks here are vastly impacted by this killing of the classic interface if there will be a time to be out in the space soon for sure the pressure will be more intense as it was generally specially for the blind who uses themselves the classic for their job calls, Or rather look for alternative VOIP service that is accessible
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
John Isige
Got any tips then? As an example, if I open up Skype, and pick a
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conversation, sometimes it thrashes around with it's messaging model or whatever until it settles down. Then I have to tab to the actual conversation and get down to the last messages or tab to the edit field or whatever. I'm not saying it doesn't work or anything, but it just seems to take a bit to do stuff.
On 7/16/2018 23:21, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Odd, yeah I can get around it very very quickly. It pretty much is
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Eleni Vamvakari
I just want to find something with a simple, accessible interface that
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I can use for sending messages and making voice calls.
On 17/07/2018, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Odd, yeah I can get around it very very quickly. It pretty much is like --
Facebook: elvam2167@gmail.com anyaudio.net: elvam2167 Skype: elvam2167
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Re: NVDA vs. Narrator: NVDA still wins.
I have used narrator wiht firefox, chrome and edge. All work ok, some better thanothrs. I also use narrator with stream labs and obs.
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Odd, yeah I can get around it very very quickly. It pretty much is like skype 8 on the mac, very easy to flip between stuff.
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Tyler Wood
Hi, Discord is...usable. By no means accessible, but you can read chats, switch servers, add servers, join voice channels, etc. All with relative ease. The hardest part is figuring out how everything is laid out.
On 16-Jul-2018 11:06 PM, Sharni-Lee
Ward wrote:
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Sharni-Lee Ward
Okay, the simple answer, for me, is that no mattter how many accessible options there are, my friends are all either on Skype or Discord, and the latter is still inaccessible last I heard. I can't expect my sighted friends to go to TeamTalk or any other thing, and from the sounds of things it wouldn't be worth it the few times I call anyone.
I mainly use Skype's text chat feature. In current Skype, it is easier to flip between conversations and read the chat history. In Skype 8, which I tried last year, I could not work out how to do either.
On 17/07/2018 7:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an issue?
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Tyler Wood
Hi, I certainly don't find the windows 10 app terrible. It's no worse than anything else out there as far as general navigation. Google hangouts comes to mind here. They are laid out very similarly. So, before we start pointing figures that skype classic needed to stay, consider that Microsoft moved forward to keep up with other apps long after those apps came on the market and changed the general look and feel of these sorts of programs.
I have yet to use skype 8.0, so I'm reserving judgement. But I
can't imagine it is unusable or any worse than anything else out
there in 2018.
On 16-Jul-2018 10:59 PM, Robert Mendoza
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Robert Mendoza
Hi, Brian
On 7/17/2018 11:41 AM, Brian Vogel
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM, P. Otter wrote:
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:36 PM, P. Otter wrote:
we can ask microsoft to keep skype classic alive!Or you can ask them to make the latest version accessible. I can tell you which is likely to have even the slightest possibility of a positive outcome. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind. ~ Richard Dehmel
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
P. Otter
hi, but changing to another communicationtool than skype, it is also
another system than skype.
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i've a lot of contacts they are also using skype. all the contacts we have are lost or they have to change with you! i think it will be a mess! we can ask microsoft to keep skype classic alive! cheers paul otter Op 16-7-2018 om 23:25 schreef Brian
Vogel:
This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this such an issue?
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Robert Mendoza
Alright then, Shaun I will wait further instructions more on how to shift to new line of Skype version from here but surely the rest of the folks here are vastly impacted by this killing of the classic interface if there will be a time to be out in the space soon for sure the pressure will be more intense as it was generally specially for the blind who uses themselves the classic for their job calls, Or rather look for alternative VOIP service that is accessible
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Robert Mendoza
On 7/17/2018 8:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Every platform, however to be honest you will have to learn the new skype if you need it I for myself don't but if you do you will have to use the new one as best as you can.
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Lino Morales
That’s a rather stupid blanket statement Sean. I’m sure their still a lot of blind people who still use Skype regardless of what platform they are on.
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:55:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 - Is skype app the same?
From where I am standing, the blind just don't use skype anymore. So we can't do any work needing skype now. On 7/17/2018 11:59 AM, mikolaj holysz wrote: > Skype 8's already out, it's much less accessible and much harder to > use. It's an issue for those who need to use skype because the people > they want to contact use skype and it's hard to convince them to do > otherwise. That might be because of business rules mandating it's use > for internal calls or skype subscriptions the business has. It might > also be an issue for those for whom using Skype is much cheaper than > using anything else, perhaps because they already have a long > subscription for calling phones via Skype, a way to cheaply get gift > codes for such subscription (perhaps from a loyalty programs) or some > exemption in their carrier's data plans for using Skype that doesn't > exist for other, competing services. > > > > W dniu 2018-07-16 o 23:25, Brian Vogel pisze: >> This is a serious question from someone who is aware of Skype, and >> dabbled with it, but never adopted it for regular use: Why is this >> such an issue? >> >> It doesn't just seem to me, but it's been confirmed here, that there >> are many alternatives to Skype many of which are accessible. It will >> also be interesting to see what UI interface changes occur, >> particularly with regard to accessibility, with Skype 8.0. >> -- >> >> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 >> >> /A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love >> for all humankind./ >> >> ~ Richard Dehmel >> >> > > > > >
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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1 -
Is skype app the same?
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From where I am standing, the blind just don't use skype anymore. So we can't do any work needing skype now.
On 7/17/2018 11:59 AM, mikolaj holysz wrote:
Skype 8's already out, it's much less accessible and much harder to use. It's an issue for those who need to use skype because the people they want to contact use skype and it's hard to convince them to do otherwise. That might be because of business rules mandating it's use for internal calls or skype subscriptions the business has. It might also be an issue for those for whom using Skype is much cheaper than using anything else, perhaps because they already have a long subscription for calling phones via Skype, a way to cheaply get gift codes for such subscription (perhaps from a loyalty programs) or some exemption in their carrier's data plans for using Skype that doesn't exist for other, competing services.
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