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Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Kwork
 


Ron, here's a site with the original prose poem that inspired the legend, but basically, you are correct:
Since this is way off topic for the list, I will refrain from saying anything more.
My apologies to the moderators. Perhaps I should have written Ollie off list rather than take the discussion outside of the original thread.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing

Hi Group,


I don't think I ever herd of this 'crossing over the rainbow bridge' terminology.  I assume it means he is or will soon go to that great big open air Utopian kennel in the sky--where prime steaks hang at head level just ripe for the munching--and sunny days and clean, clear pools of water abound.  ...and of course, there are always plenty of little animals to chase, catch and do whatever with.



On 5/23/2016 5:49 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Ollie,

I'm so sorry to hear about your guide dog crossing over the rainbow bridge. A dear friend of mine is facing the possibility that she might have to make that hard decision with her guide dog too. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing

Laurie,


It's so comforting to know there are people who care.


Blessings to you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 23/05/2016 05:43, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io ha scritto:
Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM

  Ollie, I'm very very
  sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
  bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
  You're in my prayers.
  Travis
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
  To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
  Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
  required


  Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
  Bridge, and I no longer
  have to look after
  her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
  and Weather+ will be one of them...

  Ciao,

  Ollie

















--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

 

I agree on backup, had an issue where a owner of a large server was having issues with it and his workstation that came off it.
He brought both newer units and I put them online.
All went well and good, I transfered his dieing workstation to his server and it was fine later on he said he suddenly had issues with starting the server and it was running slowly.
Unknown to all of us the main supply had developed a slow burn.
So when it came to me to get things at first it wouldn't turn on.
He took it back to where we got the system from and they opened it up, the first thing they saw was the main supply on fire, the raid controler wasn't going to tolerate a power unit on fire at any stretch so never started things.
Thats all fine and good, but the drives were not fully backed up.
And were crypto locked.
Thats fine but with the psu gone part of that lock sort of required the drive in that machine to access it.
I had only just had my own near data loss experience but even so if I had known I could have helped.
So the drive had to be taken to get recovered and since we didn't have the cash me and the owner it was decided by the server people that they would recover the locked data as they were confident that all the data was locked on the drive and that they could decrypt it.
It just would take several weeks to decrypt it byte by byte.
Its been 2 months and we are finally making progress.
Ofcause there is no knowing what the state the files will be in.
I know how that may feel as when I recovered on a bad drive I got file names but no content what so ever.
And in fact if I hadn't immediately gone to one of my slow drives I wouldn't have got any data back.
Fortunately all critical data is cloud backed on severl clouds, onedrive, google, and dropbox.
Even so they lost a major mail database which while anoying is not a big issue.
Sadly we lost the 8gb of the workstation backup to but we will see.
Its likely when we get it back that even if its undammaged all the indexes will be gone and such.
I have backed up drives myself so thats fine.
My dad has a couple cryptolocked units with smart security passwords, the trick is remembering the keys.
I can for the most part he can't.
I really should get installed a password manager into the security on all units I work with and have a master but I have never got round to that.

On 24/05/2016 2:17 p.m., Chris Shook wrote:
I agree. I read audio books a lot, but I will not download them from
iTunes anymore. It is too much of a pain to put them back if you take
them off your device for some reason.
Has anyone had trouble playing music from iCloud? I don't own apple
music, but I've still got access to iCloud. However, for the passed few
weeks, if I click on certain songs, it give me the option to buy them
again. I don't know whether it charges my account if I click buy or not,
but it's still annoying.
Hopefully, NVDA 2016.2 will make it more accessable.
On another subject, is Amazon music any beter?



Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

 

I agree, if its all from apple, but all music even those you extracted seem to be a bit extreme.
However I do agree, I have backed up all my music so if I have to go then I don't loose it.

On 24/05/2016 12:10 p.m., Lino Morales wrote:
Well this is normal. You cancel you lose your music. Plane and simple. I
think Apple does care. For those of you more geeky than I write to the
accessibility team at Apple about our iTunes issues. Long live Apple Music!


On 5/23/2016 7:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well on another disturbing note, if you are subscribed to applemusic
and well it runs out or you make it go away itunes will happily delete
all music in your music folder or on your computer.
So yeah apple doesn't care about pc users much these days.



On 24/05/2016 8:45 a.m., Arlene wrote:
You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it
accessible
for all screen readers! Do you think it's truly meant for Apple
computers
and I devices? If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I
Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen
readers?
Chris






.




Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

I agree. I read audio books a lot, but I will not download them from iTunes anymore. It is too much of a pain to put them back if you take them off your device for some reason.
Has anyone had trouble playing music from iCloud? I don't own apple music, but I've still got access to iCloud. However, for the passed few weeks, if I click on certain songs, it give me the option to buy them again. I don't know whether it charges my account if I click buy or not, but it's still annoying.
Hopefully, NVDA 2016.2 will make it more accessable.
On another subject, is Amazon music any beter?


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Lenron
 

Itunes is crap. Total crap one of the things that made me not want an
Iphone for so long. Also apple music should save your stuff some how
that way if you wish to use it again you don't have to re add all that
music. Maybe some kind of thing where it just saves the titles that
you had before and you just have to redownload them.

On 5/23/16, Jolene Cardenas <joe.haiku@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I tried this program as well on my Windows 10-based laptop with NVDA,
and it was so inaccessible that I uninstalled it after a few days.

Yet all I wanted to do was use it as a Podcast subscriber, nothing else.

I wish you the best as perhaps others on this list could share how it
worked for them or not.

sincerely,

Jolene.



--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Jolene Cardenas
 

Hello,

I tried this program as well on my Windows 10-based laptop with NVDA,
and it was so inaccessible that I uninstalled it after a few days.

Yet all I wanted to do was use it as a Podcast subscriber, nothing else.

I wish you the best as perhaps others on this list could share how it
worked for them or not.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

The moral to this story is always back your music, audio books, etc on USB drives or an external hard drive. Even if Apple didn't delete your music, something can always go wrong such as your computer crashing.
Chris


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

mk360
 

Go to the messages list, move object cursor with NVDA numpad 4 (control NVDA left arrow in laptops) to the first object, that is "list" (lista in spanish for me) move the object navigation down with NVDA numpad 2 (NVDA control down arrow in laptops) and you will be placed in the colums with object cursor. Now, if you press NVDA / the mouse will be placed in the columns and in theory you will can see the mouse pointer in the headers (I can't confirm this).

El 23/05/2016 a las 18:10, Brian Vogel escribió:

Arianna & mk,

          Thanks to you both.  I'll play a little more but I'm still stuck, and part of that may be because I see and don't have the mental mapping for "where to drop" as it should be.  I can't figure out, if all one is trying to do is move a column to the left of where it is, you know how you're at the correct "to the left" position for the drop.  When you can literally see this the whole "drag and drop" operation makes instant sense, but that's because it's almost entirely driven by being able to see it.

I'll have to play more to see what I can come up with.  If I can get focus on the actual column headers under Thunderbird that will be a major achievement!
 
Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    




Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Ian Blackburn
 

And of course if you have imported CDs into iTunes library that will remain
Apple music is like any other subscribe service if you unsubscribe you lose the darter
Regards Ian

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 May 2016, at 8:10 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Well this is normal. You cancel you lose your music. Plane and simple. I think Apple does care. For those of you more geeky than I write to the accessibility team at Apple about our iTunes issues. Long live Apple Music!


On 5/23/2016 7:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well on another disturbing note, if you are subscribed to applemusic and well it runs out or you make it go away itunes will happily delete all music in your music folder or on your computer.
So yeah apple doesn't care about pc users much these days.



On 24/05/2016 8:45 a.m., Arlene wrote:
You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it accessible
for all screen readers! Do you think it's truly meant for Apple computers
and I devices? If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris






.


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Lino Morales
 

Well this is normal. You cancel you lose your music. Plane and simple. I think Apple does care. For those of you more geeky than I write to the accessibility team at Apple about our iTunes issues. Long live Apple Music!

On 5/23/2016 7:31 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well on another disturbing note, if you are subscribed to applemusic and well it runs out or you make it go away itunes will happily delete all music in your music folder or on your computer.
So yeah apple doesn't care about pc users much these days.



On 24/05/2016 8:45 a.m., Arlene wrote:
You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it accessible
for all screen readers! Do you think it's truly meant for Apple computers
and I devices? If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris






.


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Robert Mendoza
 

From the stand and perspective of the users. I must say that taking time to have a test before they release it to market. It should be baseline, approved, and properly evaluated from there end.

Robert Mendoza
On 5/24/2016 7:31 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well on another disturbing note, if you are subscribed to applemusic and well it runs out or you make it go away itunes will happily delete all music in your music folder or on your computer.
So yeah apple doesn't care about pc users much these days.



On 24/05/2016 8:45 a.m., Arlene wrote:
You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it accessible
for all screen readers!  Do you think it's truly meant for Apple computers
and I devices?  If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris






.






Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

 

Well on another disturbing note, if you are subscribed to applemusic and well it runs out or you make it go away itunes will happily delete all music in your music folder or on your computer.
So yeah apple doesn't care about pc users much these days.

On 24/05/2016 8:45 a.m., Arlene wrote:
You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it accessible
for all screen readers! Do you think it's truly meant for Apple computers
and I devices? If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris





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Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Gene
 

If people want to have these sorts of not even remotely on topic conversations, we should have a chat list.  I didn't say anything until now because I don't want to micromanage the list nor to pounce on people when expressing condolences.  But this thread could go on quite a bit longer.  At this point, I am taking no action but if the thread continues much more, I shall ask that it be terminated. 
 
Gene
 


Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Gwensinfo
 

It's the bridge to the great field in the sky, where frisbees abound and all kinds and manner  of toys are there for chasing. Rolling in the grass is permitted, and meeting all ones other friends

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi Group,


I don't think I ever herd of this 'crossing over the rainbow bridge' terminology.  I assume it means he is or will soon go to that great big open air Utopian kennel in the sky--where prime steaks hang at head level just ripe for the munching--and sunny days and clean, clear pools of water abound.  ...and of course, there are always plenty of little animals to chase, catch and do whatever with.



On 5/23/2016 5:49 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Ollie,

I'm so sorry to hear about your guide dog crossing over the rainbow bridge. A dear friend of mine is facing the possibility that she might have to make that hard decision with her guide dog too. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing

Laurie,


It's so comforting to know there are people who care.


Blessings to you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 23/05/2016 05:43, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io ha scritto:
Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM

  Ollie, I'm very very
  sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
  bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
  You're in my prayers.
  Travis
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
  To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
  Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
  required


  Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
  Bridge, and I no longer
  have to look after
  her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
  and Weather+ will be one of them...

  Ciao,

  Ollie
















--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Arianna & mk,

          Thanks to you both.  I'll play a little more but I'm still stuck, and part of that may be because I see and don't have the mental mapping for "where to drop" as it should be.  I can't figure out, if all one is trying to do is move a column to the left of where it is, you know how you're at the correct "to the left" position for the drop.  When you can literally see this the whole "drag and drop" operation makes instant sense, but that's because it's almost entirely driven by being able to see it.

I'll have to play more to see what I can come up with.  If I can get focus on the actual column headers under Thunderbird that will be a major achievement!
 
Brian
-- 

Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
   ~ Henry Rosovsky

    



Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I don't think I ever herd of this 'crossing over the rainbow bridge' terminology.  I assume it means he is or will soon go to that great big open air Utopian kennel in the sky--where prime steaks hang at head level just ripe for the munching--and sunny days and clean, clear pools of water abound.  ...and of course, there are always plenty of little animals to chase, catch and do whatever with.



On 5/23/2016 5:49 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Ollie,

I'm so sorry to hear about your guide dog crossing over the rainbow bridge. A dear friend of mine is facing the possibility that she might have to make that hard decision with her guide dog too. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing

Laurie,


It's so comforting to know there are people who care.


Blessings to you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 23/05/2016 05:43, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io ha scritto:
Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM

  Ollie, I'm very very
  sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
  bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
  You're in my prayers.
  Travis
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
  To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
  Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
  required


  Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
  Bridge, and I no longer
  have to look after
  her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
  and Weather+ will be one of them...

  Ciao,

  Ollie


















--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Rainbow Bridge crossing

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Ollie,

I'm so sorry to hear about your guide dog crossing over the rainbow bridge. A dear friend of mine is facing the possibility that she might have to make that hard decision with her guide dog too. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing

Laurie,


It's so comforting to know there are people who care.


Blessings to you.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 23/05/2016 05:43, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io ha scritto:
Ollie,
I am also sorry to hear of your guide's passing on.
That is always so hard... no matter how many guides any of us has had.
Please be good to yourself.
You're in my prayers.

And, thank you Travis, for changing the subject line-- that helped me to open the message sooner.
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 5/22/16, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Rainbow Bridge crossing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2016, 9:45 PM

Ollie, I'm very very
sorry to hear about your dog crossing the rainbow
bridge. That was very sad news for me to read.
You're in my prayers.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather+ NVDA add-on
required


Now that my old guide dog has gone to Rainbow
Bridge, and I no longer
have to look after
her, I'll have moer time to spend on other things,
and Weather+ will be one of them...

Ciao,

Ollie









Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

That's craziness! Whoever created I tunes should keep it accessable for both
apple and windows computers. I've used it on my room mate's I pad and it's
okay. That is why I never installed it om my 7 box. I had it there before
and had trouble with it and I uninstalled it. I had it on my second xp box.
I haven't tried it since then.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ingrid-Merethe Berget
Sent: May-23-16 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi,

I use Itunes on my PC. After i updated to the newest version of Itunes
(12.4.0.119) i can't navigate my music library any longer. NVDA only
reads out the first item in every column and doesn't tell me when I move
around or where i have moved to (I use the arrow keys to navigate). I
don't use Braille display so that is unfortunately not an option. Does
anybody have the same problem and/or a solution or an idea what could be
wrong?

Thank you and regards from Norway
Ingrid-Merethe


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

You know, If Apple is giving PC users I Tunes they should keep it accessible
for all screen readers! Do you think it's truly meant for Apple computers
and I devices? If that's the case, they shouldn't release it to windows
computers. If they do they should make it accessable for all apple and
windows computers. I think it's craziness to have it released to windows
being accessable then suddenly not. Do you think with ten I tunes is not
good or is it for all. Like windows 7 and ten? Or, is it because I Tunes had
been updated and it's the way it is?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-23-16 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Hi Ingrid,
You aren't the only one having trouble with iTunes. NVDA nor JAWS is
working well with it at the moment. Do you have any other screen readers?
Chris


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

mk360
 

Hi,

I route mouse to object cursor with insert / (numpad slash) so if I need to drag some things I place the object navigation to the object that I need to move, press insert /, next shift / to lock the left mouse clic, next I move the object navigation cursor to the place where I need to move the object I selected, move again the mouse to the object cursor with insert /, and unlock the left mouse clic with shift /. If all worked correctly the objec will be moved to the new location, it depends if the object can be moved with the mouse obviously.

I don't know if my english can be sufficient to explain this... if it can't be understood I can try again :D

Regards,
mk.

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Arianna Sepulveda <englishrider91@...> wrote:
Brian, having never used this program for, and not being very familiar with drag-and-drop operations overall, let alone with NVDA, i'm only going to attempt to answer the first part of your question. I would think that you should be able to move to each column header using NVDA's Object Navigation. Then you would route the mouses focus to that object. I can't remember the command to do this, but I'm pretty sure there is one. If that fails, try using the text review commands, and if on a laptop, hitting shift+insert+m when you get to the column header that you want. This should route the mouse's focus to the text that you're on when using the text review commands. Sorry I can't be of more help. I hope this will give you a place with which to start experimenting.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 23, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Hello All,

           This post has some broad elements asking about drag and drop operations in NVDA plus a couple of specifics to the situation.  I am just not sure where to look in available documentation.

            Someone on the Blindtech group asked this morning about reordering the columns in the inbox (or other folder) display on Thunderbird.  The only way that I can find to do this in their own documentation and through my own experimentation/exploration is via drag and drop.

            In NVDA, if I am not using mouse tracking I have yet to find a way to get focus thrown to any of the inbox column headings and I have to believe there is a way to do this.  If someone could let me know what that is I'd appreciate it.

            Once I have focus on a given column heading the way to move it via mouse is drag and drop, so I'd imagine I initiate a drag and drop via Left Mouse Button Lock, INS+NumPad Divide for desktop or CAPS Lock+CTRL+Left Square Bracket for laptop.  What I don't know is, once one has the column ready to drag, how does one move the actual mouse pointer to drag it.  My gut tells me it's whichever one prefers:  the hard arrow keys or the Num Pad arrow keys.  I have not, however, found this documented.

             I also have to believe that the drop action is either done with a Left Mouse Button Click sequence or else a repetition of the Left Mouse Button Lock if it is a toggle that releases when done again.

             Any and all assistance is appreciated.  The instances where drag and drop appears to be the only option are quite rare, but I'd like to know how it is done for those rare occasions where it's needed.
 
Brian
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