I don’t know but I feel that making someone use a different screen reader is like making a cane user use a guide dog or a paralyized person use a non-powered wheel chair when they have always used a wheel chair.

The only thing I can do with JAWS is use my typical windows keyboard short-cuts that I have know since the switch from DOS.

Cindy

Hi, I'm using the beta version of ff.

I've downloaded a portible version of waterfox, loaded the page, and got
the same thing.

Note: I've had this laptop for 7 years, so that's why I'm thinking it
could be the problem.


On 7/20/2018 9:25 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Try disabling the addons you have installed and see what happens after
that

A quick way to do this is to go to the help menu and select restart
with addons disabled

See if the page loads after that

*From: *Matt Turner <mailto:meturner2214@gmail.com>
*Sent: *20 July 2018 13:50
*To: *NVDA <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Firefox and this webpage?

Hi folks.

ff, won't load this page.

It just keeps sitting there.

https://simplynuc.com/

The page loads in chrome.

I tthink it could be this laptop.

Windows 8.1 64 bit, the latest versions of ff, and NVDA.

Anyone else seem to have this problem?

Hi folks.

ff, won't load this page.

It just keeps sitting there.

https://simplynuc.com/

The page loads in chrome.

I tthink it could be this laptop.

Windows 8.1 64 bit, the latest versions of ff, and NVDA.

Anyone else seem to have this problem?

Basically the idea is a more intelligent announcement when you use the clipboard shortcut keys. IE it does what Jaws and other screenreaders do and says what you have done. Unlike the basic clipboard keys announce add on we have been using it attempts to only say what its really done.
Unfortunately it was quite slow and as I said did make pasting into word often complain with a low memory error but in fact the paste did work. It also used to come up with some interesting comments when using goldwave cut and paste of  audio files as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey" <cwollner@wi.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clipspeak stable released #AddonRelease

Hi what does this add on all do for your clip board?

I must have missed that part of the messages about this add on.




On 7/19/2018 11:55 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard
operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien
Garwood:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

Cheers,

Joseph

--

Casey

Hi folks.

ff, won't load this page.

It just keeps sitting there.

https://simplynuc.com/

The page loads in chrome.

I tthink it could be this laptop.

Windows 8.1 64 bit, the latest versions of ff, and NVDA.

Anyone else seem to have this problem?

Hi what does this add on all do for your clip board?

I must have missed that part of the messages about this add on.




On 7/19/2018 11:55 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

For those who wanted a way to let NVDA announce various clipboard
operations, now you have it in the form of Clipspeak add-on by Damien
Garwood:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

Cheers,

Joseph

--

Casey

Hello everyone,

I took the time to read all over 50 messages that were sent on the NVDA and
JAWS debate. Here are some thoughts, and please forgive me for coming down
a bit hard on this, but if you read this all the way through, you may
understand why. Please also understand that what I am about to write is not
my personal opinion necessarily, but it is my role as an admin of this list
to make the points I am about to make.

1. This list is for the discussion of NVDA and, specifically, to help out
one another in our learning and knowledge of NVDA. This group exists
because its members want it to do so, although I feel that it should be
tied up into the Windows 10 group, but there you have it. This group does
not exist to bash others, to disparage companies, or to flame and attack
others for their preferences. While a limited amount of comparison may be
valid when attempting to request a new feature or trying to understand how
NVDA does things as compared to another screen reader, what I saw today in
the thread was nothing short of a disgrace coming from list members.
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or did not say about NVDA, we the NVDA community can choose how to respond,
and I urge all of us to respond in a way that does not have us looking
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This community can be welcoming, inviting, and safe for everyone. It can be
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Try disabling the addons you have installed and see what happens after that

A quick way to do this is to go to the help menu and select restart with addons disabled

See if the page loads after that

 

 

From: Matt Turner
Sent: 20 July 2018 13:50
To: NVDA
Subject: [nvda] Firefox and this webpage?

 

Hi folks.

 

ff, won't load this page.

 

It just keeps sitting there.

 

https://simplynuc.com/

 

The page loads in chrome.

 

I tthink it could be this laptop.

 

Windows 8.1 64 bit, the latest versions of ff, and NVDA.

 

Anyone else seem to have this problem?

 

 

 

 

Hi folks.

ff, won't load this page.

It just keeps sitting there.

https://simplynuc.com/

The page loads in chrome.

I tthink it could be this laptop.

Windows 8.1 64 bit, the latest versions of ff, and NVDA.

Anyone else seem to have this problem?