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NVDAremote.com is down

Jonathan Milam
 

Anyone else having a problem?

 

Jonathan


Re: skype accessibility

Sarah k Alawami
 

I can take them at their word. I am a user of the mac version and I have to say that it is grate. The windows version is grate to. Everything is accessible and actually a lot faster than skype 7. See my anchor page and m tiny review of skype on windows as of maybe a few weeks ago. I love it.

On 26 Jul 2018, at 1:52, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes how is it that they keep on going on, but never seem to be able to actually do it. it surely cannot be that hard to throw a new version at a series of blind skype users with different screenwriters can it? Or are they judging everything on how it works with Narrator?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" sm.everiss@...
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 11:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] skype accessibility

Hi.

Well it does seem ms is listening to us well enough to release another article about improvements to skype, they sound fuzzy and warm on paper but I can't take them at their word just yet.


Re: can't get to my music file folder

Richard Wells
 

Rosemarie: the music folder can be found here: C:\Users\User Name\Music and, of course, replace "user" name" with the name of your logged in user. Another way to get straight to it is to press WINDOWS-KEY+R, type: "music" (without the quotes and press enter.


On 7/25/2018 10:59 PM, Gene wrote:
Did you do  what you should always do when odd pronblems occur with no known possible solution other than this?  Did you reboot?
 
Also, did you look for the folder using File Explorer?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your helpp in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 



Re: Getting to Music, Photos & video files

Gene
 

But none of this should matter.  The point of Windows is to allow you to get to things like this very quickly not dependent on knowing where they are.  In Windows 7, I can't discuss how Windows 10 is organized, if you open the start menu, then tab once, you are in a list.  You can down arrow and find documents and music.  You can also use first letter navigation and type d or m. 
 
If the start menu isn't working properly, you may need to know where they are to open them using Windows Explorer.  I don't know how many Windows 7 users know about this, and I also suspect that Windows 10 has a similar interface.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

    In Windows 7 at least, Favorites, Downloads, Documents, Music,
Pictures, Videos and some others are under the user account folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
    Ancient.Aliens@...
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 7/26/2018 7:15 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
> NVDADear Chris & List:
>
> I believe my music, video & photo files are in:
>
> C:\users\username\documents\music
>
> With the last directory name changed for video or photos.
>
> Documents sub-directory appears to be at the same level as downloads or
> possibly a sub-folder of downloads.
>
> Brian
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of
> *Chris Mullins
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:59 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi
>
> This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows
> 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the
> c:\Users\UserName folder where “Username” is the name of the Windows
> account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the
> same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they
> appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Jim Pipczak
> *Sent:* 26 July 2018 05:21
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi,
>
> Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It
> should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Rosemarie Chavarria
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> I do not know why but for some weird reason I cannot find my music file
> folder. I do not know if it is something in NVDA or not. When I do a
> search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing
> else. This did not happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the
> Microsoft disability line and they could not fix the problem either. Why
> is this happening?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Rosemarie
>
> Jim Paczki Access Technology Service Development Lead
> Service Innovation
> Vision Australia 346 Macaulay Rd (CNR Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
>
> M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243) E:
> Jim.Pipczak@... <mailto:Jim.Pipczak@...>
> www.visionaustralia.org <http://www.visionaustralia.org>
>
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> Opportunity. - logo
>
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> Award for Best Workplace Diversity and Inclusion Program. - logo
>
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> Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.
>
>





Re: Getting to Music, Photos & video files

E.T.
 

In Windows 7 at least, Favorites, Downloads, Documents, Music, Pictures, Videos and some others are under the user account folder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Ancient.Aliens@icloud.com
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 7/26/2018 7:15 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
NVDADear Chris & List:
I believe my music, video & photo files are in:
C:\users\username\documents\music
With the last directory name changed for video or photos.
Documents sub-directory appears to be at the same level as downloads or possibly a sub-folder of downloads.
Brian
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Chris Mullins
*Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:59 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
Hi
This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the c:\Users\UserName folder where “Username” is the name of the Windows account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.
Cheers
Chris
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Jim Pipczak
*Sent:* 26 July 2018 05:21
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
Hi,
Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.
Thanks,
Jim
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Rosemarie Chavarria
*Sent:* Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
Hi, everyone,
I do not know why but for some weird reason I cannot find my music file folder. I do not know if it is something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This did not happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the Microsoft disability line and they could not fix the problem either. Why is this happening?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Rosemarie
Jim Paczki Access Technology Service Development Lead
Service Innovation
Vision Australia 346 Macaulay Rd (CNR Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243) E: Jim.Pipczak@visionaustralia.org <mailto:Jim.Pipczak@visionaustralia.org>
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Getting to Music, Photos & video files

Brian K. Lingard
 

NVDA    Dear Chris & List:

 

I believe my music, video & photo files are in:

C:\users\username\documents\music

With the last directory name changed for video or photos.

 

Documents sub-directory appears to be at the same level as downloads or possibly a sub-folder of downloads.

Brian

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder

 

Hi

This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the c:\Users\UserName folder where “Username” is the name of the Windows account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.

 

Cheers

Chris      

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Jim Pipczak
Sent: 26 July 2018 05:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder

 

Hi,

 

Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I do not know why but for some weird reason I cannot find my music file folder. I do not know if it is something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This did not happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the Microsoft disability line and they could not fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Jim Paczki Access Technology Service Development Lead
Service Innovation
Vision Australia 346 Macaulay Rd (CNR Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031

M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243) E: Jim.Pipczak@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Re: can't get to my music file folder

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the c:\Users\UserName folder where “UserName” is the name of the Windows account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.

 

Cheers

Chris      

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Pipczak
Sent: 26 July 2018 05:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

 

Hi,

 

Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your helpp in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Jim Pipczak
Access Technology Service Development Lead
Service Innovation
Vision Australia
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031

M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243)
E: Jim.Pipczak@...
www.visionaustralia.org

 

The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.

 


Re: skype accessibility

 

If there was one time that Microsoft kind of listens to my feedback, is when I reported an issue in the iOS version of Skype where, I think, VoiceOver is not reading what I'm typing in the message edit box. That was fixed, after a couple of updates.


Re: can't get to my music file folder

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If you find that explorer is not letting you in, I find master seeker which is a portable program quite handy for seeing what is actually going on.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder


Hi, Gene,



Yes, the problem is solved now. I found my music folder in file explorer. I
should have thought of that earlier.



Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder



Did you do what you should always do when odd pronblems occur with no known
possible solution other than this? Did you reboot?



Also, did you look for the folder using File Explorer?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:57 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder



Hi, everyone,



I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file
folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search
for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This
didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft
disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this
happening?



Thanks for your helpp in advance.



Rosemarie










Re: skype accessibility

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes how is it that they keep on going on, but never seem to be able to actually do it. it surely cannot be that hard to throw a new version at a series of blind skype users with different screenwriters can it? Or are they judging everything on how it works with Narrator?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 11:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] skype accessibility


Hi.

Well it does seem ms is listening to us well enough to release another article about improvements to skype, they sound fuzzy and warm on paper but I can't take them at their word just yet.




Re: can't get to my music file folder

Jim Pipczak
 

Hi,

 

Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your helpp in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Jim Pipczak
Access Technology Service Development Lead
Service Innovation
Vision Australia
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031

M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243)
E: Jim.Pipczak@...
www.visionaustralia.org

Vision Australia. Blindness. Low Vision.  Opportunity. - logo

Vision Australia. Winner of the Australian HR Award for Best Workplace Diversity and Inclusion Program. - logo  

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Re: can't get to my music file folder

 

Running and typing music should always get you to that folder unless you changed your location.

if not go to c:\users

find your username and then your music folder

Ofcause go and hit winkey and I, go to storage search for this in settings search and see where stuff actually goes, I have for example on the workstation because of its 128gb ssd, all documents, music and other videos and data pictures, etc on my data hdd and not on the system.

If this is the case you can change your location of your files using  simple comands from explorer.

On 7/26/2018 3:59 PM, Gene wrote:
Did you do what you should always do when odd pronblems occur with no known possible solution other than this? Did you reboot?

Also, did you look for the folder using File Explorer?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder


Hi, everyone,


I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?


Thanks for your helpp in advance.


Rosemarie






Re: can't get to my music file folder

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,

 

Yes, the problem is solved now. I found my music folder in file explorer. I should have thought of that earlier.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

 

Did you do  what you should always do when odd pronblems occur with no known possible solution other than this?  Did you reboot?

 

Also, did you look for the folder using File Explorer?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:57 PM

Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your helpp in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: can't get to my music file folder

Gene
 

Did you do  what you should always do when odd pronblems occur with no known possible solution other than this?  Did you reboot?
 
Also, did you look for the folder using File Explorer?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] can't get to my music file folder

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your helpp in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


can't get to my music file folder

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I don't know why but for some weird reason I can't find my music file folder. I don't know if it's something in NVDA or not. When I do a search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing else. This didn't happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the microsoft disability line and they couldn't fix the problem either. Why is this happening?

 

Thanks for your helpp in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: Using different social media platforms/websites with NVDA

Laurie Mehta
 

I agree with you.
If a person has an iPhone, the Twitter app especially, and even the Face Book app, works very well with voice over.
-LM

--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 7/25/18, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:

Another suggestion is to use the Facebook and Twitter mobile apps. From my experience, Facebook iOS app works fine with VoiceOver. I hardly use the Facebook website nowadays as the app is more convenient.
_._,_._,_


Re: Using different social media platforms/websites with NVDA

 

Another suggestion is to use the Facebook and Twitter mobile apps. From my experience, Facebook iOS app works fine with VoiceOver. I hardly use the Facebook website nowadays as the app is more convenient.


skype accessibility

 

Hi.

Well it does seem ms is listening to us well enough to release another article about improvements to skype, they sound fuzzy and warm on paper but I can't take them at their word just yet.


Re: ccleaner again!

 

Well its never happened here but yeah I have ccleaner portable.

That does not make any tasks if ones ever got made.

But sadly, avast I don't know they may think its the best but its not.

On 7/25/2018 10:08 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I eventually tracked the avast installation to a process in task manager written there by ccleaner even if you say no to avast. What it does is waits till you have forgotten all about it and the machine has been idle for a time then it craftily downloads avast and installs it. I caught it last time as it fell foul of my alteration to the startup on the registry program, and asked if it should start. I said no then I had a nice little round the mulberry bush morning of avastclear, which does not remove the task, and then searching for the task folder and removing it manually in safe mode.
I do feel that although Avast may see themselves as the bees knees of anti viruses,  doing this sort of underhand installing is going to turn the general public off them big time and we are especially vulnerable due to the programs  access issues. I used to like their system back before the accessproblems but since they have been buying up companies and trying to force their stuff on computers I find myself hating them instead!!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner again!


You don't but the setting are saved automatically but with the way ccleaner has gotten access wize I thought I'd just put it out there.

Latest installs will moniter your system and such even if you turn it off maybe I am missing something but I no longer can trust the installers and I don't need to now.




On 7/25/2018 7:22 AM, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
Is this for the official portable version or the one on Portable Apps?
  Why would we need a special settings file when settings are saved
automatically?  What did you mean when you said it was inaccessible?
I'm a bit confused about all of this.  I'm using this version right
now and it looks the same as it always has.

https://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/ccportable

On 24/07/2018, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.

Well if it wern't enough, today, ccleaner had an update, the website
said there wasn't one, but there was an update.

So what does this mean, you can no longer clean up old windows
instalations.

In addition to the monitering, ccleaner can run on your computer unless
you hit another button.

Even when things are cleared, it wasn't honoring my settings.

At first I tried the puran utilities, but I always liked ccleaner.

Anyway, there is a solution to this and also largely the accessibility
problems we face.

CCleaner portable is that solution, I was able to set it to startup
exactly how I wanted, you can run either 32 or 64 bit executable, I ran
the 32 bit version just because.

So, by default no monitoring no startup, no shortcuts, nothing.

I had to doodle round a bit but I was able at least in win7 to
accessibly well sort of anyway to set my options.

So you can just search for ccleaner portable on google and get this.

Place the following into the directory where you plan to have ccleaner
installed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m15toyhbsmdy5fb/ccleaner.ini?dl=1

Note due to dropbox limits, if someone can perminantly host this
somewhere or as many people as can have this up so others can grab it.

CCleaner uses an ini file for its settings and not the registry.

So what does the ini file have in it.

All the settings are set, no wipe space, no startup, no monitoring.

You don't need the inaccessible control panel, the privacy buttons in
the latest version seem gone to but oh well.

There are trial nag screens, updates currently are left active.

Note, for those with uac you will have to allow it through each time you
run it.

You will also have to go to options, and find settings you may have to
tab shift tab a few times to find it, and then check the boxes for the
open and run ccleaner from recycle bin and it will make those shortcuts
work.

Right now it also warns you of updates

This will give us ccleaner without avast, and the monitoring issues, and
extra junk piriform and avast seem deturmoned to foist on us poor users!

Its not much of a jesture of rebelion but as long as the ini file is
backed up and I don't plan to remove it any time soon it being so small,
we can probably use ccleaner with minimal configuration.

As long as the portable works.

Now the only reason I even bother with updates is because of win10 and
its servicing branch else I'd actually never bother updating it.

Bar the registry settings noncence there is no need to actually have it
installed at all.

All functions can run from it.










Re: Getting Off of SSDI, ongoing cost of access technology

Gene
 

Thanks but it isn't necessary.  The owner is fair as well and the list needs almost no moderration or administering, for that matter.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting Off of SSDI, ongoing cost of access technology

Well I wish you were an admin. I don’t agree 100 percent of the tie how you handel things, but I feel you for the most part fair.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:07:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting Off of SSDI, ongoing cost of access technology
 
I should correct the signature of my last message.  I described myself as list administrator.  I am actually a moderator.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting Off of SSDI, ongoing cost of access technology

If you want to join a list where such discussion is allowed, that's your privelege.  This list will not allow messages that risk causing divisive and heated political discussions that have not even the remotest connection to anything reasonably allowed on the list.  I shall close the thread if it continues. 
 
This list allows some off topic discussion and has for the many years I have been a member.  But this is beyond any remotely reasonable expansion of off topic material, and as I said, it has a good chance of stirring up a good deal of divisive political discussion.
 
Gene Asner, list administrator
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian K. Lingard" <bkl@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:31 AM
> Subject: [nvda] Getting Off of SSDI, ongoing cost of access technology
>
>
> Dear Glenn & List:
>
> Here in Canada, at least Ontario, you are considered successfully placed in
>
> gainful employment if the job is expected to last at least six months.
> Friends receiving ODSP [Ontario Disability Support Program] payments who
> have many medical conditions, each with at least one prescription medicine,
>
> have told me time and again they are capable of gainful work, however, as a
>
> part-time employee, they will not have a Prescription Medicine Plan. ODSP
> provides each recipient with a Prescription Drug Benefit that covers most,
> however, not all, prescriptions.
>
> However, if you require a prescription not on the formulary, you may request
>
> it be covered for you as your doctor has prescribed it, it is expensive, and
>
> often the only medicine licensed in Canada to treat your condition. If this
>
> does not work, you may apply to The Trillium Plan for coverage of the drug
> in your particular case.
>
> Friend of mine's spouse was diagnosed with gallstones. The doctor wanted to
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> dissolve them with an expensive medicine. Their ODSP monthly income was
> maybe, $1,000 combined for the two of them. Friend takes the prescription to
>
> his usual pharmacy, asks what it costs, answer was $300 for a month's
> supply. He contacts his doctor, who writes an appeal letter to the Min of
> Health, after a few weeks went by, they approved it. Unfortunately, the
> medicine did not dissolve the stones.
>
> His wife was diabetic, had heart issues and for these reasons was a bad
> candidate for surgery.
>
> At the time, Lithotripsy, busting the stones into fine powder, was not
> available in Ottawa. It was in Montreal, province just across the Ottawa
> River, and with its own Min of Health, friend of mine called around various
>
> hospitals there, found one that did this treatment, gave the info to his
> wife's doctor, who said I heard they no longer do this! Meanwhile, about a
> day before, the hospital had told my friend they did do it, have the doctor
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> in Ottawa send them a referral. Therefore, my friend said why run up his
> phone bill if the doctor will say he heard they no longer do it.
>
> I do not know of a laparoscopic procedure, where they operate through a
> small hole to the scene of the procedure was an option. Have heard these
> procedures are much less stressful on the body, compared to a traditional
> open procedure.
>
> One friend of mine, in Toronto, is blind, diabetic, with MS and probably
> other issues. Between her various doctors, she is on 32 prescriptions, with
>
> the Ontario Drug Benefit, pharmacies may charge a $2 co-pay per
> prescription. That is $64/month. Many pharmacies will waive the $2 co-pay,
> others do not. The nursing home she resided at dealt with one pharmacy did
> would not waive the co-pay. Her entire ODSP cheque of around $700/month went
>
> to pay the daily fee for staying the home, except for her $100/month comfort
>
> allowance, which was to cover replacement clothes, feminine hygiene
> products, toothpaste, phone & cable tv if any, she also smoked. After trying
>
> to explain to the home the $64 co-pay would be the largest item in her
> budget, she cannot afford it, and getting the story they only wanted to deal
>
> with the single pharmacy as it simplified ordering, she decided the home
> could bill her all they wanted for the co-pay, however, she refused to pay
> it. Her prescription medicines kept arriving and she had more spending
> money.
>
> Having the Soc. Security Admin. Pay for access technology, with scripting
> and training, to get someone into the workforce, earning more than the
> prevailing SGA is fine. However, access tech wears out, requires maintenance
>
> and can become unusable due to advances in computer technology. Many
> perfectly good braille displays and synthesizers became obsolete when their
>
> makers decided not to make drivers available for them when a Windows upgrade
>
> required new drivers, or computers no longer had parallel & serial ports,
> just USB ones.
>
> The braille displays were well built, however the firm that took over the
> equipment when TSI went bust, chose to not prolong their working life as
> they competed directly with the Braille displays the firm designed & built
> themselves. Freedom Scientific, now VFO Group was one firm that did this. In
>
> addition, manufacturers of access tech can go bust, making well-designed
> displays, however, not with enough market share to make the units and
> especially the r and d to design newer ones.
>
>
> There is also the issue of funding equipment maintenance, replacement and
> scripting updated or new applications. If you work for Government, your
> department or agency is expected to pay for this. Fine. The scripter says it
>
> will cost $75,000 to script the soon to be released update to the main app
> you use. The department has perhaps one or two blind employees who need the
>
> update. If updates are released semi-annually, that is $1590, 000 for the
> updates or $75,000 per blind employee. If the employee is a Quad or amputee,
>
> using a sip & puff system to control their telephone, terminal printers etc.
>
> the cost of reprogramming their sit & puff system can approach the Public
> Debt of the United States of America. This is because sip & puff systems are
>
> almost custom-made, as is their programming.
>
> When my employer was concerned over the cost of a PC for me, offered, well,
>
> I earn my hourly wage whether I am doing productive work or waiting for the
>
> PC to compute. I prefer doing productive work. The boss accepted this line
> of reasoning and purchased the faster PC with enough RAM and hard drive to
> handle newer program versions, which seem to require more disk storage,
> faster CPU and much more RAM.
> Brian
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ervin,
> Glenn
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:35 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [NVDA] VFO not complimentary about NVDA
>
> In VR with state agencies, we are reimbursed by Social Security if we place
>
> someone in a job that is above SGA, that is, enough for the client to get
> off SSDI.
> So usually, cost is not an issue for things like adaptive equipment and
> scripting.
> Glenn
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>  <nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf of Brian K. Lingard
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 1:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [NVDA] VFO not complimentary about NVDA
>
> Dear Brian & List:
>
> I thought VFO Group would do JAWS scripting or put you in contact with a
> certified Jaws Scripter.
>
> Perhaps not.
>
> I do know that someone wanted a proprietary application for a car rental
> firm scripted to work with JAWS and was quoted thousands of dollars for the
>
> work and advised that every timed the firm rolled out a new version the work
>
> would have to be completely redone.
>
> I believe the would- be scripting contractor was the Smith-Kettlewell
> Foundation of San Francisco.
>
> I can see changes being required for a new version of the App, but a
> complete rewrite. That seems like someone trying to make a large company pay
>
> and pay to support only a few employees.
> Brian
>
> It may have been a proprietary telemarketing program. However, I think the
> employer to be was misquoted for the job.
> Brian
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Brian Vogel
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [NVDA] VFO not complimentary about NVDA
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
> Again, if I want a program scripted in NVDA, who does it?
> If you contact NV Access, I feel certain they could point you to someone.
> Alternatively, even ask here.   Most JAWS scripters are self-taught, or were
>
> at one time anyway.  I believe NVDA scripts are done in Python (though I
> could be wrong) and there are plenty of Python programmers out there.
>
> I had to dig long and hard to find JAWS scriptwriters when they were needed
>
> about 2 years ago.  It is a real niche market.
>
> --
> Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
>     A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for
> all humankind.
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