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Re: Amazon.com "Cart" page with JAWS & NVDA

ely.r@...
 

Brian,

I am running NVDA with no addons and Firefox 6.0.1.

 

I went to the heading titled Shopping Cart and tabbed through my cart that had only one item.

First tab was the image with the alt-tag of the title of the gook.

Next tab took me to the link to the item page on Amazon.

Next was to the name of the publisher which was a link. ,

This was followed by gift options not available followed by the text “learn more” which was a link.”

Next two tabs were to buttons. first of these was labeled “Delete and the title of the gook.

The second button was “save for later and the title of the book”

Tabs following the active cart went to “saved for later.

Writing that all out makes it sound confusing even to me who just wrote it.

Basically using , Next heading will get you to the shopping cart and then tabs will move you through all the items and options in the cart

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Amazon.com "Cart" page with JAWS & NVDA

 

Hello All,

          What follows is a duplicate of a post I just made on the JAWS for Windows group.  I am posting here not because I expect any answers with regard to JAWS but because I also described what I'm seeing with NVDA that has me confused as well.  I do not understand how what presents as a link doesn't show up in the links elements list but does in both form fields and buttons, when it is neither and I wouldn't think it could be both a form field and a button.  I am also not seeing the Disability Support link (or something similar to that, I don't have JAWS handy to pull up the exact name of the link) that I am positive I did see under JAWS.  I thought about activating that link and reporting that a full duplication of the same information given as the click-through text for an item's link in the alternate text for its image is overkill and makes matters worse, not better, in the context of the cart.

-------------------------------
Hello All,

        During a session today I encountered something I've never encountered before with JAWS:  An inaccessible link that's clearly visible to me.   In addition I could not find a workaround that allowed for what I consider a reasonable way to hear the list of what's in your cart.

         I would have expected that the item links that show up in the cart would have been implemented as headings, much like the item links are all headings at level 2 on the search results page.  They don't show up in the headings list, though.  The closest I can get to the items list is to go to the Shopping Cart heading and start reading from there.  For each item in the cart there exists a "Delete" link which allows you to do exactly what it says.  Almost anyone has occasional need or desire to nuke an item or items from their cart, but I can find absolutely no way to access these Delete links for each item.  They do not show up even in the list of links for the page.  In playing with this same page with NVDA the results are the same when I look at either a list of the headings or links.  What's interesting though is if I change the element being looked at to "Form Fields" these delete links show up in that list.  If these things are form fields then they're the best disguised form fields I've ever seen.  They are visually presented as links and I'd expect they'd be in a list of links, not form fields.  They also show up in NVDA's list of Buttons, and they certainly are not presented as buttons.  I've done the NVDA experimentation this evening, at my leisure, so I had no idea about this when I first encountered it.  It still seems utterly bizarre.

         What, if anything, am I doing wrong here?

         It's also interesting to see how Amazon went overboard with alternate text for item images.  When you get JAWS to begin reading the cart in its long and meandering way the full item name is always presented twice since the alternate text for the item image is a word for word copy of the click-through text used for the item link itself.  It makes the whole process of even trying to review one's cart incredibly tedious.  I notice that when JAWS is being used there is a link that shows up for Disability Support (or a very similar phrase) and I can't seem to find that using NVDA, but I could also be on a different version of the cart page than I was looking at earlier today.

          If anyone knows "the collection of slick tricks" for efficiently interacting with the Amazon Cart page I'd love to hear them.
-------------------------------
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: makeing reaper useable with nvda

Andrew <drudwn2000@...>
 

hi Adel, I am probabl laate in this thread. You installed Reaper first. The with Reaper closed, installed OSARA then SWS extension?  Andrew

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adel Spence
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] makeing reaper useable with nvda

 

hello

I'm adel

so, I installed all things for reaper, but it is still not useable with nvda. can someone please help me?


Re: makeing reaper useable with nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Roger,

What didn't work about getting the addon?

I just downloaded it then and it downloaded and I could run the installer.  Windows 10 does pop up a warning that it is not commonly downloaded and to be careful.  The default is "don't run" but you need to go to the "More info" button and "Run anyway".  The warning is not that there is anything suspicious about the file other than it hasn't been downloaded by lots of users yet.  It happened to the first people who downloaded NVDA 2018.2.1 when it came out as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
Just tried to get this nvda add on. No go!  I also tried to get it from the official nvda add ons site and it isn't there.  Is there a better way to get it?

Thanks

Roger









On 7/26/2018 5:07 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Adel,

Have you installed OSARA for Reaper?  It is here: https://github.com/jcsteh/osara

There is also a walkthrough of instructions here:

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Adel Spence <adelspence12@...> wrote:
hello
I'm adel
so, I installed all things for reaper, but it is still not useable with nvda. can someone please help me?



--
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Training and Support Manager

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 





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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: makeing reaper useable with nvda

Roger Stewart
 

Just tried to get this nvda add on. No go!  I also tried to get it from the official nvda add ons site and it isn't there.  Is there a better way to get it?

Thanks

Roger









On 7/26/2018 5:07 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Adel,

Have you installed OSARA for Reaper?  It is here: https://github.com/jcsteh/osara

There is also a walkthrough of instructions here:

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Adel Spence <adelspence12@...> wrote:
hello
I'm adel
so, I installed all things for reaper, but it is still not useable with nvda. can someone please help me?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Amazon.com "Cart" page with JAWS & NVDA

 

Hello All,

          What follows is a duplicate of a post I just made on the JAWS for Windows group.  I am posting here not because I expect any answers with regard to JAWS but because I also described what I'm seeing with NVDA that has me confused as well.  I do not understand how what presents as a link doesn't show up in the links elements list but does in both form fields and buttons, when it is neither and I wouldn't think it could be both a form field and a button.  I am also not seeing the Disability Support link (or something similar to that, I don't have JAWS handy to pull up the exact name of the link) that I am positive I did see under JAWS.  I thought about activating that link and reporting that a full duplication of the same information given as the click-through text for an item's link in the alternate text for its image is overkill and makes matters worse, not better, in the context of the cart.

-------------------------------
Hello All,

        During a session today I encountered something I've never encountered before with JAWS:  An inaccessible link that's clearly visible to me.   In addition I could not find a workaround that allowed for what I consider a reasonable way to hear the list of what's in your cart.

         I would have expected that the item links that show up in the cart would have been implemented as headings, much like the item links are all headings at level 2 on the search results page.  They don't show up in the headings list, though.  The closest I can get to the items list is to go to the Shopping Cart heading and start reading from there.  For each item in the cart there exists a "Delete" link which allows you to do exactly what it says.  Almost anyone has occasional need or desire to nuke an item or items from their cart, but I can find absolutely no way to access these Delete links for each item.  They do not show up even in the list of links for the page.  In playing with this same page with NVDA the results are the same when I look at either a list of the headings or links.  What's interesting though is if I change the element being looked at to "Form Fields" these delete links show up in that list.  If these things are form fields then they're the best disguised form fields I've ever seen.  They are visually presented as links and I'd expect they'd be in a list of links, not form fields.  They also show up in NVDA's list of Buttons, and they certainly are not presented as buttons.  I've done the NVDA experimentation this evening, at my leisure, so I had no idea about this when I first encountered it.  It still seems utterly bizarre.

         What, if anything, am I doing wrong here?

         It's also interesting to see how Amazon went overboard with alternate text for item images.  When you get JAWS to begin reading the cart in its long and meandering way the full item name is always presented twice since the alternate text for the item image is a word for word copy of the click-through text used for the item link itself.  It makes the whole process of even trying to review one's cart incredibly tedious.  I notice that when JAWS is being used there is a link that shows up for Disability Support (or a very similar phrase) and I can't seem to find that using NVDA, but I could also be on a different version of the cart page than I was looking at earlier today.

          If anyone knows "the collection of slick tricks" for efficiently interacting with the Amazon Cart page I'd love to hear them.
-------------------------------
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: makeing reaper useable with nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Adel,

Have you installed OSARA for Reaper?  It is here: https://github.com/jcsteh/osara

There is also a walkthrough of instructions here:

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Adel Spence <adelspence12@...> wrote:
hello
I'm adel
so, I installed all things for reaper, but it is still not useable with nvda. can someone please help me?




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


makeing reaper useable with nvda

Adel Spence
 

hello
I'm adel
so, I installed all things for reaper, but it is still not useable with nvda. can someone please help me?


Re: Getting to Music, Photos & video files

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Maybe your view changed back to quick view or it may of been default.


The following below will have it so you see the drives like before and folders like music video etc there.


How to Configure File Explorer (previously known as Windows Explorer) to Open With This PC
When you go to open File Explorer with the Windows key + the letter E you will be presented with the following called quick access view.
If you do not like the Quick Access view, you can configure File Explorer to open with This PC view.
In the search box when the Windows key is pushed, type control panel. You will end up in the control panel and be given a whole heap of options. Next, on your keyboard, press the letter F (so NVDA finds the File manager icon). Next, press the Enter key to be given more options. Under the general tab (which will be the first place NVDA lands on), you will hear NVDA say open file explorer to quick access. Next, arrow down until you hear NVDA say this PC. Next, tab until you hear NVDA say apply button; press the Enter key on this, then tab to the ok button, and press the Enter key. Now when you want to go into file manager with the Windows key + the letter E, you will have this PC view. Then, it is a matter of just finding your drives and so on. For example C:\ drive,  D:\ drive E:\  drive and removable drives.


Or this might be of help


Restoring your Desktop icons
You may be used to having various shortcut icons on your Desktop such as this PC, Recycle Bin, Control Panel etcetera, but did you know that some of the shortcuts can be added if they are not there?

If you are back on the desktop and have noticed a particular icon is not there and you want it back on the desktop, this can easily be done.

Press the Windows key + the letter I. This will bring up the Windows settings section in Windows. You will be given some options. Locate the Personalization icon then press the Enter key. Arrow until you hear NVDA say themes then press the Enter key. Next, tab until you hear NVDA say Desktop icon settings then press the Enter key. You will now be given some options (such as Computer, User's Files, Network, Recycle Bin, Control Panel). You can arrow up or down this section if there are shortcuts/icons you want to put back on the desktop from this location. Press the spacebar on the ones you want. This will check the check box, so they can be added. After you have made your selection/s, tab to the apply button, then press the Enter key. Tab again until you hear NVDA say ok button, then press the Enter key. Now these shortcuts/icons will be on your desktop.

To listen to an audio tutorial on how to restore your previous desktop icons in Windows 10 (if they are missing after the upgrade) please click on the following link https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7yb1ordoih6rpd/How%20to%20restore%20previous%20desktop%20icons%20in%20Windows%2010%20.MP3?dl=0


Gene nz




On 7/27/2018 6:16 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Gene,

 

I agree that you should be able to get to a program or file quickly. In windows 10 you have to go through the file explorer to find a program or file now. Now I can't even hit the start menu and type "downloads" in the search box like I used to. I have to go through file explorer.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

But none of this should matter.  The point of Windows is to allow you to get to things like this very quickly not dependent on knowing where they are.  In Windows 7, I can't discuss how Windows 10 is organized, if you open the start menu, then tab once, you are in a list.  You can down arrow and find documents and music.  You can also use first letter navigation and type d or m. 

 

If the start menu isn't working properly, you may need to know where they are to open them using Windows Explorer.  I don't know how many Windows 7 users know about this, and I also suspect that Windows 10 has a similar interface.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

    In Windows 7 at least, Favorites, Downloads, Documents, Music,
Pictures, Videos and some others are under the user account folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
    Ancient.Aliens@...
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 7/26/2018 7:15 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
> NVDADear Chris & List:
>
> I believe my music, video & photo files are in:
>
> C:\users\username\documents\music
>
> With the last directory name changed for video or photos.
>
> Documents sub-directory appears to be at the same level as downloads or
> possibly a sub-folder of downloads.
>
> Brian
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of
> *Chris Mullins
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:59 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi
>
> This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows
> 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the
> c:\Users\UserName folder where “Username” is the name of the Windows
> account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the
> same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they
> appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Jim Pipczak
> *Sent:* 26 July 2018 05:21
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi,
>
> Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It
> should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Rosemarie Chavarria
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> I do not know why but for some weird reason I cannot find my music file
> folder. I do not know if it is something in NVDA or not. When I do a
> search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing
> else. This did not happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the
> Microsoft disability line and they could not fix the problem either. Why
> is this happening?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Rosemarie
>
> Jim Paczki Access Technology Service Development Lead
> Service Innovation
> Vision Australia 346 Macaulay Rd (CNR Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
>
> M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243) E:
> Jim.Pipczak@... <mailto:Jim.Pipczak@...>
> www.visionaustralia.org <http://www.visionaustralia.org>
>
> Image removed by sender. Vision Australia. Blindness. Low Vision.
> Opportunity. - logo
>
> Image removed by sender. Vision Australia. Winner of the Australian HR
> Award for Best Workplace Diversity and Inclusion Program. - logo
>
> The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres
> Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.
>
>





Re: nvdaremote is back up

Antony Stone
 

I believe the server component of NVDA Remote has also been released as open
source code now as well, so it is possible to run your own equivalent of the
nvdaremote.com "middleman" on any machine which is accessible to the two
clients wishing to communicate with each other.

The initial release was only of the client code, which mean you could either
do peer-to-peer, if the clients could see each other directly over a network,
or use nvdaremote.com as a middleman, but now that the server code has been
released as well, there is no need to trust any third party even when you need
to connect two computers, neither of which has a public IP address, and you
cannot set up a VPN between them.


Antony.

On Thursday 26 July 2018 at 21:47:28, Aman Singer wrote:

Hi,

NVDA Remote does not require nvdaremote.com or any other site. One can use
the add-on to remote control a computer over one's own network, a VPN, or
the internet, though the last is somewhat less secure than one might wish.
Nvdaremote.com is fairly convenient, it allows bypassing port forwarding
and IP address/domain name issues, but using the nvdaremote.com server is
certainly not necessary and may not even be wise for privacy reasons. Aman


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvdaremote is back up

so is this add on even relyable then?

On 7/26/2018 11:53 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Yes it does.

It has gone down in the past - sometimes for hours, sometimes less and
sometimes more.

On 26-Jul-2018 1:50 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So does this actually rely on just one site to work. Is this not a
bit risky in this day and age of cyber attacks?
Brian
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He belongs in the UK."

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Re: Getting to Music, Photos & video files

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Rose-marie

You can actually press the Windows key, type Downloads and it will appear in the search results.  It also appears on the start menu which is not as easily navigated as in Windows 7 as there is no first letter navigation. Don’t use the tab key, you just arrow down the list to it.  As someone also suggested, press Windows+r, type Downloads and press enter.   

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 26 July 2018 19:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

Hi, Gene,

 

I agree that you should be able to get to a program or file quickly. In windows 10 you have to go through the file explorer to find a program or file now. Now I can't even hit the start menu and type "downloads" in the search box like I used to. I have to go through file explorer.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

But none of this should matter.  The point of Windows is to allow you to get to things like this very quickly not dependent on knowing where they are.  In Windows 7, I can't discuss how Windows 10 is organized, if you open the start menu, then tab once, you are in a list.  You can down arrow and find documents and music.  You can also use first letter navigation and type d or m. 

 

If the start menu isn't working properly, you may need to know where they are to open them using Windows Explorer.  I don't know how many Windows 7 users know about this, and I also suspect that Windows 10 has a similar interface.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

    In Windows 7 at least, Favorites, Downloads, Documents, Music,
Pictures, Videos and some others are under the user account folder.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
    Ancient.Aliens@...
Science is not only compatible with spirituality;
it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan

On 7/26/2018 7:15 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
> NVDADear Chris & List:
>
> I believe my music, video & photo files are in:
>
> C:\users\username\documents\music
>
> With the last directory name changed for video or photos.
>
> Documents sub-directory appears to be at the same level as downloads or
> possibly a sub-folder of downloads.
>
> Brian
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of
> *Chris Mullins
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:59 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi
>
> This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows
> 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the
> c:\Users\UserName folder where “Username” is the name of the Windows
> account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the
> same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they
> appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Jim Pipczak
> *Sent:* 26 July 2018 05:21
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi,
>
> Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It
> should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Rosemarie Chavarria
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> I do not know why but for some weird reason I cannot find my music file
> folder. I do not know if it is something in NVDA or not. When I do a
> search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing
> else. This did not happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the
> Microsoft disability line and they could not fix the problem either. Why
> is this happening?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Rosemarie
>
> Jim Paczki Access Technology Service Development Lead
> Service Innovation
> Vision Australia 346 Macaulay Rd (CNR Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
>
> M: +614 3375 7598 T: +613 8378 1243 (I: 344243) E:
> Jim.Pipczak@... <mailto:Jim.Pipczak@...>
> www.visionaustralia.org <http://www.visionaustralia.org>
>
> Image removed by sender. Vision Australia. Blindness. Low Vision.
> Opportunity. - logo
>
> Image removed by sender. Vision Australia. Winner of the Australian HR
> Award for Best Workplace Diversity and Inclusion Program. - logo
>
> The history, culture, diversity and value of all Aboriginal and Torres
> Strait Islander peoples are recognised, acknowledged and respected.
>
>



Re: nvdaremote is back up

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

NVDA Remote does not require nvdaremote.com or any other site. One can use the add-on to remote control a computer over one's own network, a VPN, or the internet, though the last is somewhat less secure than one might wish. Nvdaremote.com is fairly convenient, it allows bypassing port forwarding and IP address/domain name issues, but using the nvdaremote.com server is certainly not necessary and may not even be wise for privacy reasons.
Aman


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvdaremote is back up

so is this add on even relyable then?


On 7/26/2018 11:53 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Yes it does.

It has gone down in the past - sometimes for hours, sometimes less and
sometimes more.




On 26-Jul-2018 1:50 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So does this actually rely on just one site to work. Is this not a
bit risky in this day and age of cyber attacks?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
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Re: Getting to Music, Photos & video files

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

My Music folders are also on separate drives but that does not stop them being in a Windows library.  The under-lying folder structures remain as all a library consists of is a group of folder links grouped under the Music library label.  

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 26 July 2018 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

It is similar in Windows 10. And the search box should work. If not, then the run command suggested earlier. However not all of us choose to have our music organised this way. Mine for example is not part of a Windows “library” but spread across two drives, each with their own separate music folder with many subfolders.

So maybe it would help to know where the music is actually located on the system.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 26, 2018 11:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

But none of this should matter.  The point of Windows is to allow you to get to things like this very quickly not dependent on knowing where they are.  In Windows 7, I can't discuss how Windows 10 is organized, if you open the start menu, then tab once, you are in a list.  You can down arrow and find documents and music.  You can also use first letter navigation and type d or m. 

 

If the start menu isn't working properly, you may need to know where they are to open them using Windows Explorer.  I don't know how many Windows 7 users know about this, and I also suspect that Windows 10 has a similar interface.

 

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to Music, Photos & video files

 

    In Windows 7 at least, Favorites, Downloads, Documents, Music,
Pictures, Videos and some others are under the user account folder.

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On 7/26/2018 7:15 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:
> NVDADear Chris & List:
>
> I believe my music, video & photo files are in:
>
> C:\users\username\documents\music
>
> With the last directory name changed for video or photos.
>
> Documents sub-directory appears to be at the same level as downloads or
> possibly a sub-folder of downloads.
>
> Brian
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of
> *Chris Mullins
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:59 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi
>
> This was the case in earlier Windows versions but I think since Windows
> 7, Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos folders are stored in the
> c:\Users\UserName folder where “Username” is the name of the Windows
> account.  These are also the default folders in the Libraries of the
> same names, so if you configure File Explorer to “Library view”, they
> appear in the list when you press Windows+e, so are easily accessible.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Jim Pipczak
> *Sent:* 26 July 2018 05:21
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi,
>
> Did you try pressing the Windows key and then typing “my music”?  It
> should be under documents and then music. Famous last words.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf of *Rosemarie Chavarria
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:58 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [NVDA] cannot get to my music file folder
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> I do not know why but for some weird reason I cannot find my music file
> folder. I do not know if it is something in NVDA or not. When I do a
> search for music and hit enter, all it shows is groove music but nothing
> else. This did not happen in earlier versions of windows. I called the
> Microsoft disability line and they could not fix the problem either. Why
> is this happening?
>
> Thanks for your help in advance.
>
> Rosemarie
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Re: nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

Tyler Wood
 

Chrome has always been faster than firefox in everything it did for me, even before firefox made the change.

Now, firefox is slower to open, slower to load, slower to close. I'll take edge over it these days. Firefox is slowly improving, but now they're going to be taking away read mode, so I won't even be using it for that and I'm sure I'll find a chrome alternative.





On 26-Jul-2018 2:04 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Me neither 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 July 2018 19:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

 

He said Chrome, and that its better in Jaws, but the question is which

chrome. I do not get people saying Chrome is fast, its always been spongy to

me.

Brian

 

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

 

 

Which browser?

Firefox 61 is fine here no lagging

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: 26 July 2018 18:15

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

 

Hi,

On websites such as this one:

 

https://www.windowscentral.com/chime-surface-go-only-decent-10-inch-windows-tablet

 

NVDA is very very laggy almost to the point of the site is nearly unreadable

and its frustrating to navigate the site. I am glad I have the cheap

inexpensive jaws home use license and Microsoft narrator as backups when

NVDA gets real laggy like this. But even so, could this please be fixed so

NVDA is nice and snappy on websites?

 

Thanks

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



StationPlaylist Studio add-on 18.08 released, requires NVDA 2018.2 or later #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

StationPlaylist Studio add-on 18.08 (stable) is now up:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/releases/tag/18.08

 

As always, you can check for this version via add-on update feature.

 

IMPORTANT: version 18.08 requires NVDA 2018.2 or later due to introduction of multi-page add-on settings.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

Chris
 

Me neither 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 26 July 2018 19:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

 

He said Chrome, and that its better in Jaws, but the question is which

chrome. I do not get people saying Chrome is fast, its always been spongy to

me.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

 

 

Which browser?

Firefox 61 is fine here no lagging

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: 26 July 2018 18:15

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] nvda very laggy on some websites with latest chrome

 

Hi,

On websites such as this one:

 

https://www.windowscentral.com/chime-surface-go-only-decent-10-inch-windows-tablet

 

NVDA is very very laggy almost to the point of the site is nearly unreadable

and its frustrating to navigate the site. I am glad I have the cheap

inexpensive jaws home use license and Microsoft narrator as backups when

NVDA gets real laggy like this. But even so, could this please be fixed so

NVDA is nice and snappy on websites?

 

Thanks

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: nvdaremote is back up

Tyler Wood
 

Sure it is.

I'm not sure if he's still going to work on it or what's happening there, but surely someone else can take over.


There's also an NVDA remote server that folks can run if they so choose that is not supported by the official NVDA remote add on.


https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer

On 26-Jul-2018 1:53 PM, The Wolf wrote:
so is this add on even relyable then?


On 7/26/2018 11:53 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Yes it does.

It has gone down in the past - sometimes for hours, sometimes less and sometimes more.




On 26-Jul-2018 1:50 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So does this actually rely on just one site to work. Is this not a bit risky in this day and age of cyber attacks?
Brian

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Re: NVDAremote.com is down

Tyler Wood
 

It's gone down before. It just won't connect.

It's back up now though.



On 26-Jul-2018 1:53 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

What errors are you getting? Did you check to see that you had the latest add o update?

Take care

On 26 Jul 2018, at 9:30, Jonathan Milam wrote:

Anyone else having a problem?

 

Jonathan



Re: nvdaremote is back up

 

so is this add on even relyable then?

On 7/26/2018 11:53 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Yes it does.

It has gone down in the past - sometimes for hours, sometimes less and sometimes more.




On 26-Jul-2018 1:50 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So does this actually rely on just one site to work. Is this not a bit risky in this day and age of cyber attacks?
Brian

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Re: NVDAremote.com is down

Sarah k Alawami
 

What errors are you getting? Did you check to see that you had the latest add o update?

Take care

On 26 Jul 2018, at 9:30, Jonathan Milam wrote:

Anyone else having a problem?

 

Jonathan


Re: nvdaremote is back up

Tyler Wood
 

Yes it does.

It has gone down in the past - sometimes for hours, sometimes less and sometimes more.

On 26-Jul-2018 1:50 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
So does this actually rely on just one site to work. Is this not a bit risky in this day and age of cyber attacks?
Brian

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