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Re: Reading web pages

 

hi.
i disabled reporting all items in document formatting and love nvda
much more with these settings!
if i want to know whether unknown item is link or not, just i press nvda tab.
it also announces discription of the link for me.

On 7/29/18, Mark Reynolds <mdtreynolds@...> wrote:
Thanks John - that's brilliant



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Reading web pages

Mark Reynolds
 

Thanks John - that's brilliant


Re: NVDA and Zotero

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

What does Zotero do?


Ben

On 7/29/2018 3:00, James AUSTIN wrote:
Morning folks

I hope you are all well.

Has anyone found a way of using Zotero with NVDA please? I have installed the plugin for Word but am unable to access the dialogue that appears. NVDA reports 'unknown'.


Thanks

Best

James



NVDA and Zotero

James AUSTIN
 

Morning folks

I hope you are all well.

Has anyone found a way of using Zotero with NVDA please? I have installed the plugin for Word but am unable to access the dialogue that appears. NVDA reports 'unknown'.


Thanks

Best

James


Re: skype gripe

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


The alt + 1 and alt + 2 keys are your friends when you want to jump
between contacts and the chats you have had with people.


I did like the way old skype 7.4 was easy to jump between writing a
message then reviewing what both of you said a bit more jumping around
in later version s of skype.


Gene nz

On 7/26/2018 12:39 AM, Brian Tew via Groups.Io wrote:
Well skype decided to talk to me today. Not sure what was wrong yesterday.
It is pretty awful for braille with tons of clutter, but it is talking.
that is, I found the replies to my immortal prose.




Re: dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Chris
 

Windows catalog or google should assist with your quest

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 29 July 2018 09:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

 

Is there a way anyone with such an old version of windows 7 can get the

service pack installed, still? Last time I checked it tried to push to

anyone like that windows 10.

 

 

Not that I myself need it, as most people I know only have sp1 as presumably

the update system took care of most of this already on most machines.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

 

 

Hi David,

I foresee a potential short-term confusion, so I'll try my best to explain

what's going on with updates:

NVDA has just one version: latest stable. There are more builds than latest

stable, but for now, you don't have to worry about that. In short, there's

no need to worry about keeping multiple versions (unless you chose to have

multiple portable copies), and in case of installed version, one and only

one version will be in use at a time.

If you check for an NVDA update today, you'll either get:

* 2017.3: if you have Windows 7 original build (7600).

* 2018.2.1: if you have Windows7 SP1 (build 7601).

To check which Windows 7 build you have, open Start, type "winver" (without

quotes), and press Enter. If About Windows dialog says you have build 7601,

then you can use 2018 releases.

There are so many changes between whichever 2016 version you've got and

2018.2.1. Some of these changes may have impact on how you view browse mode

elements, hence we advised using 2018.2.1 before continuing.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Russell

Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:37 PM

To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

 

Hello Brian and list,

 

I did see your posts, and thank you for the ways to initiate buttons and

links.

 

I also notice from recent discussion here, that buttons seem to be a bit

vague in definition as they can convey different things.

 

You suggested updating to the latest version of NVDA for windows 7.

How do I designate that particular choice of versions?

Thanks.

 

--

David Russell

david.sonofhashem@...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes button will find buttons with letter b, but as has been said before there does seem to be some strange web designers out there who make links look like buttons for their own daft reasons.
I also hat the submenus we often see, some trigger focus mode and tend to be like a kind of combo box, while others are just lists that appear on a clickable.

Trying to figure them out especially when not constant on a site can be very irritating, almost as bad as those dynamic combo boxes that jump out sometimes other times not till you hit something. its all ignorance of how a blind user uses their site I imagine, and laziness and a team of people maintaining the site with no hard and fast conventions on how the house style wants it to be.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian K. Lingard" <bkl@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version


Dear David& Lis:

The NVDA web site hopefully includes comments such as: Last stable version for Win 7, although others have posted the version you want

You would think a button visually would look like a button, however, I believe they may be depicted as square or other shapes.

Of course with speech output, unless a button says Octagonal red button, you do not know its visual shape or color.

My Bank likes to say click the big green button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.

I guess I can get the whereabouts of a button or link, however I have to go hunting for it.

First letter navigation for links makes finding the right likened a snap.
Brian


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Russell
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:37 PM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [NVDA] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Hello Brian and list,

I did see your posts, and thank you for the ways to initiate buttons and links.

I also notice from recent discussion here, that buttons seem to be a bit vague
In definition as they can convey different things.

You suggested updating to the latest version of NVDA for windows 7.
How do I designate that particular choice of versions?
Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...


Re: creating a new folder in my music drive

Brian's Mail list account
 

Well how about shift control n?

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 4:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] creating a new folder in my music drive


Hi, everyone,



I just downloaded 3 books from another list I'm on but I can't remember how
to create a new folder for them in my music drive. I tried everything from
alt N to alt V but nothing has worked. Any suggestions?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie








Re: dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Brian's Mail list account
 

Is there a way anyone with such an old version of windows 7 can get the service pack installed, still? Last time I checked it tried to push to anyone like that windows 10.


Not that I myself need it, as most people I know only have sp1 as presumably the update system took care of most of this already on most machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version


Hi David,
I foresee a potential short-term confusion, so I'll try my best to explain what's going on with updates:
NVDA has just one version: latest stable. There are more builds than latest stable, but for now, you don't have to worry about that. In short, there's no need to worry about keeping multiple versions (unless you chose to have multiple portable copies), and in case of installed version, one and only one version will be in use at a time.
If you check for an NVDA update today, you'll either get:
* 2017.3: if you have Windows 7 original build (7600).
* 2018.2.1: if you have Windows7 SP1 (build 7601).
To check which Windows 7 build you have, open Start, type "winver" (without quotes), and press Enter. If About Windows dialog says you have build 7601, then you can use 2018 releases.
There are so many changes between whichever 2016 version you've got and 2018.2.1. Some of these changes may have impact on how you view browse mode elements, hence we advised using 2018.2.1 before continuing.
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 6:37 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Hello Brian and list,

I did see your posts, and thank you for the ways to initiate buttons and links.

I also notice from recent discussion here, that buttons seem to be a bit vague in definition as they can convey different things.

You suggested updating to the latest version of NVDA for windows 7.
How do I designate that particular choice of versions?
Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...


Re: Greeting, Force Focus Mode, sleep and acronyms

Brian's Mail list account
 

I'm not sure if the forcing of focus mode can be done. I seem to recall playing with the options and managed to get the opposite, ie brows mode on all the time unless you made it go into focus mode, but not the other way around, at least in web pages. it is i think different in Word.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Silvermintz" <silvermintz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Greeting, Force Focus Mode, sleep and acronyms


Hello NVDA community, I'm a new user, and this is my very first post.

I have been using NVDA with ZoomText for the past few weeks; for things like
writing software, NVDA has much better pronunciation control, especially for
symbols and punctuation. Thanks to those who created and help to support
NVDA.



Happily, NVDA coexist very well with ZT.



Questions:

* For some applications, ZT's speech works better for me, so for those I put
NVDA into sleep mode.

How, in a NVDA configuration profile can I specify "sleep mode"?

I found the folder with the config files, so I could edit them directly if
needed.



Next question:

In Firefox, NVDA would be better for me if always in focus mode.

How can I put NVDA into focus mode and ensure it stays there?



One more question please:

The voice I'm using (TruVoice) is spelling-out any string that is
all-capitals (i.e. acronyms) instead of pronouncing as single words. It
does not do this with other applications, so I think it's because of NVDA.
How can I get it to pronounce all-caps-strings as words?





Cheers, Larry S

Sarasota, FL






Re: SleepMode default per application.

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes but if an app has more than one exe,you need one for each one. Also i notice that if that software uses explorer for anything speech will come back as well, or at least that seems to be what is happening.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Silvermintz" <silvermintz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] SleepMode default per application.


I just found in the NVDA developers guide
(https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/developerGuide.html) how
to put specific applications int sleep mode and got it to work.



The following code can be copied and pasted in to a text file, then saved in
the appModules directory with the name of the application you wish to enable
sleep mode for. As always, the file must have a .py extension.

--- start ---

import appModuleHandler



class AppModule(appModuleHandler.AppModule):



sleepMode = True



--- end ---







Cheers, Larry S






Re: dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear David& Lis:

The NVDA web site hopefully includes comments such as: Last stable version for Win 7, although others have posted the version you want

You would think a button visually would look like a button, however, I believe they may be depicted as square or other shapes.

Of course with speech output, unless a button says Octagonal red button, you do not know its visual shape or color.

My Bank likes to say click the big green button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.

I guess I can get the whereabouts of a button or link, however I have to go hunting for it.

First letter navigation for links makes finding the right likened a snap.
Brian

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Russell
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:37 PM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [NVDA] dialogue boxes and go silent with 2016 NVDA Version

Hello Brian and list,

I did see your posts, and thank you for the ways to initiate buttons and links.

I also notice from recent discussion here, that buttons seem to be a bit vague
In definition as they can convey different things.

You suggested updating to the latest version of NVDA for windows 7.
How do I designate that particular choice of versions?
Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...


skype accessibility

Brian Tew
 

I cannot find any option to turn off show typing.


dism gui tool

 

Hi.

Well after looking at the tools mentioned dism++ seems to be the tool to use, however, I haven't a system to test all the features on and I really don't want to destroy anuything so I can't test everything so I am unsure what works or doesn't.


Re: creating a new folder in my music drive

Ian McDonald
 

Try control key with the shift key and the letter N.

On 7/29/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, everyone,



I just downloaded 3 books from another list I'm on but I can't remember how
to create a new folder for them in my music drive. I tried everything from
alt N to alt V but nothing has worked. Any suggestions?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie









Add-on Updater: a proof of concept add-on to check for, download, and apply add-on updates

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of the source code form of Add-on Updater, a proof of concept add-on that lets you check for, download, and apply add-on updates.

 

Background: at the moment NVDA does not have ability to check for updates to community add-ons. Although some add-ons do have this built in (WeatherPlus, for example), it would be better to let NVDA itself take care of this.

 

How Add-on Updater works: basically, I have generalized my own add-on update code from StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials add-ons to include checking for updates for add-ons hosted on community add-ons website (addons.nvda-project.org). This is similar in concept to NVDA Store add-on (hosted on French NVDA website) with the following differences:

 

  • Tested and proven: the code in Add-on Updater (mine) has been tested and proven to be a solid add-on update client for a while.
  • Ready for inclusion in NVDA Core: my code uses same standards and coding style as rest of NVDA, thus it is ready for inclusion into NVDA screen reader.
  • Based on an existing pull request: the code is powered by a pull request regarding add-on updates, so it can be used to validate this work more broadly.
  • Integrated into NVDA menu: Add-on Updater will add a new item in NVDA tools menu to let you check for add-on updates.

 

Future work:

 

  • Simulating various update fetching mechanisms: although the current add-on code relies on server infrastructure located on community add-ons website (a PHP file), it is ready to work with other update fetching methods, including JSON (Javascript Object Notation)+database+REST API.
  • Automatically check for add-on updates at startup: similar to NVDA’s own update mechanism, add-on updates will be checked every 24 hours if told to do so (not implemented yet, although foundation has been laid).
  • Selective add-on updates: you’ll be able to check which add-on to update when prompted to do so (this requires implementation of accessible check list box, which is being worked on by a third-party NVDA developer).

 

Limitations:

 

  • Not all add-ons hosted on add-ons server will be updated via this add-on. Specifically, if an add-on provides its own update check mechanism, they will be ignored by this add-on.
  • Only manual add-on update check is available at the moment.
  • Add-ons hosted on places other than community add-ons website won’t be consulted.

 

Relevant NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3208

 

Add-on Updater source code:

https://github.com/josephsl/addonUpdater

 

I’ll release a development version of this add-on once add-on review passes.

 

IMPORTANT: this proof of concept add-on will be discontinued the day a stable version of NVDA that provides add-on update checking facility is released.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


creating a new folder in my music drive

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just downloaded 3 books from another list I'm on but I can't remember how to create a new folder for them in my music drive. I tried everything from alt N to alt V but nothing has worked. Any suggestions?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: graphical tool for dism?

 

Dism++ | New Windows Utility
https://www.chuyu.me/en/index.html


Re: graphical tool for dism?

 

there is at

https://github.com/mikecel79/DISMGUI

Its not been developed since last year due to constraints but still.

On 7/29/2018 12:32 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Hi,

Does anyone know of a good graphical tool that will let you use all of dism’s features with a graphical interface, buttons and checkboxes and list boxes and so on? I can use the command line, but lets say I add a language or some features that are part of a package, and then want to remove the tts or something, some of those packages are stubborn and can only be removed with administrator command line running like such:

Dism /online /remove-package /packageName:NameOfPackageToBeRemoved

If there is a tool that will put a list of packages in a list box and let me remove them with NVDA it would make life easier. I can use the command line with dism to get a list of stubborn packages I wish to remove. And I can remove them with command line also but this involves sending the list of packages to a text file, copying and pasting packageNames onto the command line and stuff. Life would be easier with a dism gui program that works with NVDA.

Josh


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Re: a question for geen nz

 

Hmmm.

I may also look at this page.

youtube dlg is fine for what it is, but version 0.38 is the last ever accessible version existing so maybe I look at this to.

On 7/29/2018 11:28 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
There's always my program, the Youtube Downloader User Interface, and you can find it at
http://www.softcon.com/files/
There's other programs on that page too, but the ytdlui program works with 3 different programs to do the actual downloading, including youtube-dl, curl, and wget.  You'll need to read the documentation to find the download locations, and you'll also need to make sure at least one of those programs are in the same directory as the ytdlui program, but it works quite nicely, allows multiple urls, (one per line), and logs the status of each download so you have a record of what was downloaded, and when it was done.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I was wondering if you still use the free you tube down loader for windows?  I was wondering if the program is still accessible?  I am asking because you did a demo on the program.  I have not updated the program in a year butt I am using the older version.  Just let me know.