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Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon, Monday, 14 March 2016 #cal-reminder

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"Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon" Reminder

When: Monday, 14 March 2016
5:00pm to 7:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles
Where: Accessible World Pat Price Training Room
Description:

Dear members of the NVDA community:

You are cordially invited to attend Accessible World’s Tek Talk event on NVDA and NVDACon on March 15, 2016 at 00:00 UTC (March 14th at 5 PM Pacific, 8 PM Eastern and elsewhere). If you are curious about NVDA 2016.1, need answers to burning questions about NVDA, or would like to learn more about upcoming NVDACon International 2016 in April, you are more than welcome to attend this event. Visit www.accessibleworld.org, select Pat Price training room, then join the room (select “click here to enter” link, or if you don’t have TCConference, install it first, then come and join this event).

Event information:

  • Theme: NVDA 2016.1, NVDA’s tenth anniversary events and NVDACon 2016
  • Presenter: Joseph Lee
  • Topics to be covered: what’s new and changed in NVDA 2016.1, an overview of NVDACon 2016, sneak peek at what NV Access has been up to in 2016.2 development and more.
  • Date: March 15, 2016 at 00:00 UTC.
  • Place: Accessible World Pat Price Training Room

Hope to see many of you there. Thank you.

Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee Los Angeles City College (student of Communication Studies, formerly computer science major at UC Riverside) Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NonVisual Desktop Access screen reader project Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)


problem is now truly solvedRE: so problem solved

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi Chris and others I'm running 2 programs jaws and nvda.
So playing around with everything today and taking everyone's suggestions
into consideration, I have figured it out. So a big thanks to all of you
for all your help now I have the choice of either exiting one of the 2
programs either jaws or NVDA. Or in using the pass through commands and the
sleep mode in NVDA solves all my issues. I am extatic that I didn't give up
and with the help of so many knowledgeable people I was able to figure it
out.
regards
Zoe

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook [mailto:chris0309@samobile.net]
Sent: March-07-16 6:15 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] so problem solved

Zoe,
Have you tried restarting the screen readers?
By the way, how many screen readers are on your computer?
Chris


Re: so problem solved

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Zoe,
Have you tried restarting the screen readers?
By the way, how many screen readers are on your computer?
Chris


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi Z
I use both jaws and nvda at the same time some times because nvda reads some things jaws wont read. I also use window eyes with nvda for the same reason. Some times I'll start all 3 of them to find out witch screen reader reads the most. Kind of funny with all 3 of them talking some times.
Pete


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi

One way to do this is create two windows short cuts assigning hot keys to them. One for nvda with command line switch to silence speech and create another hot key short cut key combo to silence speech in jaws sorry, you would have to make 4 short cuts, 2 for jaws and 2 for nvda. One of each to silence speech and to turn speech back on unless just exiting and starting the screen readers is what you want to do. That is if both jaws and nvda accept command line switches for the options you are looking for. By using windows shortcuts with hot keys you would not need to say be in the silenced nvda window to issue the nvda turn on speech hot key combo and same would apply for jaws.
Pete


Re: Antivirus

Gene
 

Of course an antivirus program cannot give 100 percent protection.  But although there are a lot of them, accessibility is not at all guaranteed. 
Also, you should have something protecting you with active protection.  Just being careful can give a good deal of protection but it will not protect you against a reputable site that has been hacked and has become temporarily malicious.  Even the New york times had an incident at some point during the last year or two where advertising on the site was hacked and tried to download malware to peoples' computers.  And there have been many reputable publications that have published articles concerning one or more reputable studies that have shown that putatively safe sites cannot be assumed to be safe because of hacking and practices that aren't as careful as they should be.
 
Which is an important reason I don't allow scripts to run on sites unless they are necessary for how I want to use the site.  Many sites require scripts to do what you want them to do but many sites can be used without scripts for any of their functions.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Antivirus

The number of "pure" antivirus programs along with antivirus as a part of security suites has become ridiculously large.  You will also find, if you research ratings at length, that while there is a short list of 10 to 15 that consistently get top ratings that if you pay attention to how the ratings are performed (and that does vary) that it still throws into question whether you have a real answer to which program is best.

I have said before, and I will say again, that you should not be relying on antivirus programs to give you 100% protection from viruses as any new computer virus has the potential to make its way to your computer before it has been identified and the signatures for that virus get added to a given antivirus program's detection list.  The best defense is simply being careful about where you browse on the web and what you open in terms of e-mail attachments.  Never open messages that "seem fishy" to you based upon the subject not being in character for the person you've received it from or things coming in from an unknown recipient.

You can actually get a pretty decent idea about your browsing and e-mail hygiene based upon two things:

  1. Have you ever been infected and, if so, how frequently?
  2. Has your antivirus program ever reported an infection to you? [You could also check the log files regarding what, if anything, has been detected/quarantined.]

If you're never getting (or very, very seldom) getting infected and your existing antivirus isn't quarantining things on a frequent basis then your own behavior is already consistent with what's wise for avoiding infection.   If this is the case, pretty much all of the commercial antivirus programs, including Microsoft Security Essentials (for those still on Win7) or Windows Defender (Win8 and later), will prove to be more than adequate to give you the protection you need.

It's also wise to have an antimalware program (e.g., Malwarebytes) and an antispyware program (e.g., Spywareblaster or SuperAntiSpyware) since viruses, malware, and spyware are not the same thing and many antivirus programs don't look at anything but viruses and closely related attacks.

Another excellent program to have on your computer if you like to download software, even from reputable sources, to give it a try is Unchecky.  Pretty much all vendors are now getting into the loathsome practice of bundling, where they'll have things like toolbars, other programs, or the like bundled with the program that you actually want and if you are not careful to uncheck the checkboxes for things such as, "Install crazy toolbar as well," or, "Install free trial of premium version" [when what you really want and need is simply the free version of something], you end up with all sorts of crud on your computer that you really don't want.  I recently had to uninstall a lot of unwanted programs on a client's computer that got there because he had one of his children assist him and neither one of them were at all vigilant about the questions asked during installation and simply answered in the affirmative to all of them.  Unchecky will notify you about what it's unchecked and you have the option to recheck anything if that's what you want.  So far no one has told me there are any accessibility problems with Unchecky.

Brian



Re: Antivirus

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I am writing this not from my Admin hat, although the way this thread degenerates may or may not change that.

MSE is very poorly rated on many levels, and it is my belief that telling a user that it is sufficient to run it along with safe computer practices is just inaccurate.  It is very possible and likely to contract computer infections even if one practices all safe behavior. It no longer just takes a user engaging in risky behaviors to get malware on a machine, and moreover even if it did and this was the only way of contracting malware, this would mean that your expectation is that a human is 100% safe and will do the right thing 100% of the time, which is wildly inaccurate in my opinion. And even if you disagree with what I am stating, having this debate about whether MSE is sufficient or not every single week won't help us get any closer to deciding whether a user should use it. MSE is accessible and Windows Defender is included in newer versions of Windows. For you, this may be a reason to use it along with your safer practices of computing. I'm okay with that if your decision is to do so, however MSE is very, very poorly rated on many levels by a multitude of tests that I can link to if anybody is interested, and from a security perspective, it is irresponsible to tell a user that MSE is good enough if they stay safe.

Anyway, a good wiki article about tools that work with NVDA and a campaign to work with security vendors on this accessibility would not be a bad idea. I will list some tools that I know about that are accessible.

Eset Security Suite Version 8 (9 is not accessible, and the company is aware and says they are working on a fix)
Vipre Security Suite
I believe some reported that AVG is somewhat accessible.
Also, I believe that someone reported that Kaspersky is accessible once you get past the installer which is inaccessible.

I use Sophos Home Cloud Anti-virus. It is my favorite for many reasons. It is free, it is put out by a company that primarily secures larger companies, it is cloud-based and completely accessible, and it doesn't pack in a bunch of other products in a security suite that I do not require.
Spybot S&D and Spyware Blaster seem to work pretty well. Malware Bytes also works well. I use WinPatrol, and that adds an extra level of security, although I am rethinking this as it seems to be redundant to UAC.
I'm sure others can list other accessible products. Unfortunately, I wish that others would be more accessible, however they are not at this time.

Thanks.

On 3/7/2016 4:08 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

The number of "pure" antivirus programs along with antivirus as a part of security suites has become ridiculously large.  You will also find, if you research ratings at length, that while there is a short list of 10 to 15 that consistently get top ratings that if you pay attention to how the ratings are performed (and that does vary) that it still throws into question whether you have a real answer to which program is best.

I have said before, and I will say again, that you should not be relying on antivirus programs to give you 100% protection from viruses as any new computer virus has the potential to make its way to your computer before it has been identified and the signatures for that virus get added to a given antivirus program's detection list.  The best defense is simply being careful about where you browse on the web and what you open in terms of e-mail attachments.  Never open messages that "seem fishy" to you based upon the subject not being in character for the person you've received it from or things coming in from an unknown recipient.

You can actually get a pretty decent idea about your browsing and e-mail hygiene based upon two things:

  1. Have you ever been infected and, if so, how frequently?
  2. Has your antivirus program ever reported an infection to you? [You could also check the log files regarding what, if anything, has been detected/quarantined.]

If you're never getting (or very, very seldom) getting infected and your existing antivirus isn't quarantining things on a frequent basis then your own behavior is already consistent with what's wise for avoiding infection.   If this is the case, pretty much all of the commercial antivirus programs, including Microsoft Security Essentials (for those still on Win7) or Windows Defender (Win8 and later), will prove to be more than adequate to give you the protection you need.

It's also wise to have an antimalware program (e.g., Malwarebytes) and an antispyware program (e.g., Spywareblaster or SuperAntiSpyware) since viruses, malware, and spyware are not the same thing and many antivirus programs don't look at anything but viruses and closely related attacks.

Another excellent program to have on your computer if you like to download software, even from reputable sources, to give it a try is Unchecky.  Pretty much all vendors are now getting into the loathsome practice of bundling, where they'll have things like toolbars, other programs, or the like bundled with the program that you actually want and if you are not careful to uncheck the checkboxes for things such as, "Install crazy toolbar as well," or, "Install free trial of premium version" [when what you really want and need is simply the free version of something], you end up with all sorts of crud on your computer that you really don't want.  I recently had to uninstall a lot of unwanted programs on a client's computer that got there because he had one of his children assist him and neither one of them were at all vigilant about the questions asked during installation and simply answered in the affirmative to all of them.  Unchecky will notify you about what it's unchecked and you have the option to recheck anything if that's what you want.  So far no one has told me there are any accessibility problems with Unchecky.

Brian




Re: Antivirus

 

The number of "pure" antivirus programs along with antivirus as a part of security suites has become ridiculously large.  You will also find, if you research ratings at length, that while there is a short list of 10 to 15 that consistently get top ratings that if you pay attention to how the ratings are performed (and that does vary) that it still throws into question whether you have a real answer to which program is best.

I have said before, and I will say again, that you should not be relying on antivirus programs to give you 100% protection from viruses as any new computer virus has the potential to make its way to your computer before it has been identified and the signatures for that virus get added to a given antivirus program's detection list.  The best defense is simply being careful about where you browse on the web and what you open in terms of e-mail attachments.  Never open messages that "seem fishy" to you based upon the subject not being in character for the person you've received it from or things coming in from an unknown recipient.

You can actually get a pretty decent idea about your browsing and e-mail hygiene based upon two things:

  1. Have you ever been infected and, if so, how frequently?
  2. Has your antivirus program ever reported an infection to you? [You could also check the log files regarding what, if anything, has been detected/quarantined.]

If you're never getting (or very, very seldom) getting infected and your existing antivirus isn't quarantining things on a frequent basis then your own behavior is already consistent with what's wise for avoiding infection.   If this is the case, pretty much all of the commercial antivirus programs, including Microsoft Security Essentials (for those still on Win7) or Windows Defender (Win8 and later), will prove to be more than adequate to give you the protection you need.

It's also wise to have an antimalware program (e.g., Malwarebytes) and an antispyware program (e.g., Spywareblaster or SuperAntiSpyware) since viruses, malware, and spyware are not the same thing and many antivirus programs don't look at anything but viruses and closely related attacks.

Another excellent program to have on your computer if you like to download software, even from reputable sources, to give it a try is Unchecky.  Pretty much all vendors are now getting into the loathsome practice of bundling, where they'll have things like toolbars, other programs, or the like bundled with the program that you actually want and if you are not careful to uncheck the checkboxes for things such as, "Install crazy toolbar as well," or, "Install free trial of premium version" [when what you really want and need is simply the free version of something], you end up with all sorts of crud on your computer that you really don't want.  I recently had to uninstall a lot of unwanted programs on a client's computer that got there because he had one of his children assist him and neither one of them were at all vigilant about the questions asked during installation and simply answered in the affirmative to all of them.  Unchecky will notify you about what it's unchecked and you have the option to recheck anything if that's what you want.  So far no one has told me there are any accessibility problems with Unchecky.

Brian



Re: Antivirus

Gene
 

I don't keep up carefully with which programs are accessible and are highly rated.  Other list members may want to comment.  Nodd32, spelling) is a program you have to pay for but, as far as I know it is rather accessible.  I'm not talking about the suite, I'm talking about the Nodd antivirus program.  I don't know anything about the Internet suite.
 
Avast was more or less accessible nbut more so with JAWS and it had enough quirks that you might not want to use it.  I use it but its quirks would probably dissuade many. 
 
Malware Bytes, after being inaccessible for a time, is, as far as I know more or less accessible now.  However, someone who has kept up with the last version or two will have to comment on that. 
 
Others may wish to comment on other programs.  I've seen favorable comments on two or three other programs a month or two ago here.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Which programs are those, specifically, please?
Thanks (and apologies if you've already shared this information; I'm a bit behind on reading list mail.
-LM

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 3/7/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 
 What I meant to say is that
 there are other
 antimalware programs with much better ratings.
  
 Gene
 
 ----- Original message
 -----
 
 
 From: Gene
 Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:11 AM
 To: nvda@groups.io
 
 Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
 
 
 There are other e-mail
 programs with much better
 ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow
 things down. 
 Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is
 adequate and people
 should read about the subject.  When Kim Komando recommends
 that people use
 something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well,
 that in my opinion, is
 cause for serious consideration. 
  
 With reasonable care,
 Windows Defender may be
 alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many
 programs.
  
 Gene
 
 ----- Original Message
 -----
 
 
 From: Brian's
 Mail list account
 Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
 To: nvda@groups.io
 
 Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
 
 Well, all anti virus programs
 tend to have  one weakness,
 even if that is
 that you cannot actually
 use it with a screenreader or it
 slows down stuff.
 
 I have to
 say that msse/defender is maybe not as
 featured as  many, but
 unless you are the
 sort of person who goes
 recklessly clicking dodgy links
 in phishing
 emails or web sites, thus far
 checks with other products on my
 machines
 have not revealed anything very
 malicious. The pundits always have
 their
 favourites, and certainly do not
 have the added issues of
 accessibility, but
 we have to live in the world as
 it is, as I'm constantly
 reminded, so
 compromise is often what one ends up
 with.
  Brian
 
 bglists@...
 Sent via
 blueyonder.
 Please address personal email
 to:-
 briang1@...,
 putting
 'Brian Gaff'
 in the display name
 field.
 ----- Original Message -----
 
 From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
 To: <nvda@groups.io>
 Sent: Monday, March 07,
 2016 5:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [nvda]
 Antivirus
 
 
 As has been repeatedly
 discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible
 
 the program is. 
 Many advisors say that it is better to use something else
 
 because it isn't
 as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.
 
 It seems to me
 that this program is contraversial enough that when people
 
 ask about it,
 those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,
 
 and what it
 is.  I believe that those considering using the program
 should
 be
 encouraged to look into the contraversy.
 
 Gene
 ----- Original Message
 -----
 
 From: Arlene
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
 To: nvda@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [nvda]
 Antivirus
 
 
 Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and
 10.
 
 
 
 From: Rosemarie Chavarria
 [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
 Sent:
 March-06-16 4:41 PM
 To: nvda@groups.io
 Subject: Re: [nvda]
 Antivirus
 
 
 
 Hi, Nut,
 
 I'm using windows defender and it's
 working great for me.
 
 Rosemarie
 
 
 
 
 On 3/6/2016
 3:39 AM,
 Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
 
   Hi all,
 
  
 I'm thinking of
 upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday
 
 of this year, and
 I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
 
 have Sandboxie and
 VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either
 
 run them in
 Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular
 attention as
 I do have
 access to a licensed copy through my university.
 
   If Windows
 Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version)
 accessible
 with NVDA? In
 terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert
 
 dialogs and
 settings windows.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Antivirus

Laurie Mehta
 

Which programs are those, specifically, please?
Thanks (and apologies if you've already shared this information; I'm a bit behind on reading list mail.
-LM

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 3/7/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:


What I meant to say is that
there are other
antimalware programs with much better ratings.
 
Gene

----- Original message
-----


From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:11 AM
To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


There are other e-mail
programs with much better
ratings that are reasonably accessible and don't slow
things down. 
Knowledgeable people differ on whether Windows Defender is
adequate and people
should read about the subject.  When Kim Komando recommends
that people use
something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well,
that in my opinion, is
cause for serious consideration. 
 
With reasonable care,
Windows Defender may be
alright but it has poor detection rates compared with many
programs.
 
Gene

----- Original Message
-----


From: Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Well, all anti virus programs
tend to have  one weakness,
even if that is
that you cannot actually
use it with a screenreader or it
slows down stuff.

I have to
say that msse/defender is maybe not as
featured as  many, but
unless you are the
sort of person who goes
recklessly clicking dodgy links
in phishing
emails or web sites, thus far
checks with other products on my
machines
have not revealed anything very
malicious. The pundits always have
their
favourites, and certainly do not
have the added issues of
accessibility, but
we have to live in the world as
it is, as I'm constantly
reminded, so
compromise is often what one ends up
with.
 Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via
blueyonder.
Please address personal email
to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk,
putting
'Brian Gaff'
in the display name
field.
----- Original Message -----

From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07,
2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Antivirus


As has been repeatedly
discussed here, it's not a question of how accessible

the program is. 
Many advisors say that it is better to use something else

because it isn't
as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me
that this program is contraversial enough that when people

ask about it,
those who discuss it should say that there is a contraversy,

and what it
is.  I believe that those considering using the program
should
be
encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message
-----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and
10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria
[mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent:
March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda]
Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's
working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016
3:39 AM,
Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

  Hi all,

 
I'm thinking of
upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer holiday

of this year, and
I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I

have Sandboxie and
VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I either

run them in
Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular
attention as
I do have
access to a licensed copy through my university.

  If Windows
Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version)
accessible
with NVDA? In
terms of being able to read and properly interact with alert

dialogs and
settings windows.


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene
 

It doesn't make sense to have people request a file in a case like this.  If twenty people request it, that will mean twenty messages to the list and it may mean twenty answers.  I would suggest waiting to see what happens.  The tutorial will probably be presented for download at some point in the near future and then anyone who wants one can download it. 
 
Gene
 


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Oh you do? Okay!

 

From: Albert Ruel [mailto:albertruel@...]
Sent: March-07-16 1:05 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Thanks.  I have it. 

 

From: Arlene [mailto:nedster66@...]
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 12:48 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hey, if Brandon says it’s okay to pass this along. I’ll be happy to pass the MP3 file!

 

From: Gene New Zealand [mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:28 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz

On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

 


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Albert Ruel
 

Thanks.  I have it. 

 

From: Arlene [mailto:nedster66@...]
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 12:48 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hey, if Brandon says it’s okay to pass this along. I’ll be happy to pass the MP3 file!

 

From: Gene New Zealand [mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:28 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz

On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

 


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hey, if Brandon says it’s okay to pass this along. I’ll be happy to pass the MP3 file!

 

From: Gene New Zealand [mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:28 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz

On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

 


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Sure! I’ll give it to you!

 

From: Albert Ruel [mailto:albertruel@...]
Sent: March-07-16 12:17 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

The following link should get you to the mp3 file.. When you go to the webpage, locate the file then save it

The link to it is http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/

Gene nz


On 08-Mar-16 9:17 AM, Albert Ruel wrote:
May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,



Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Albert Ruel
 

May I please request a copy of that MP3 file. My email address is, AlbertRuel@....

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Brandon

I just listened to your tutorial on Utube. I like the tutorials where people go step by step.

would I be able to link to the tutorial. I noticed there was a utube version and one where you put the mp3 file. Is the second one like google storage? or a private one?

It will be linked either to the nvda tutorials for other programs page or maye up on the nvda audio tutorials page on my website I am putting together called Accessibility Central.net which can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
I have also downloaded the mp3 file as well. Not sure how much space I have left in my dropbox account otherwise I could put a copy there,I would have to shrink it down.
I don't think there is much.

It if allowed will be linked up tonight when I do some more update to my website.

Gene nz
 

On 07-Mar-16 6:58 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.
Thanks,



Re: so problem solved

Chris Mullins
 

You may have turned off NVDA speech but it’s still the program you are interacting with.  Your backspace and arrow keystrokes are not being spoken because they are not going through to Jaws unless you precede every keystroke with Insert f2.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@...]
Sent: 07 March 2016 18:59
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] so problem solved

 

Hey everyone, so the solution was using theNVDA pass through command did the trick.

So I turned on jaws , then I clicked insert spacebar s to turn jaws speech off. Then I started NVDA using control alt n , then I clicked insert s to turn speech mode off, then I clicked insert f2 like rose suggested and then it let me press insert spacebar s to turn speech back on in jaws.  Of course another problem arose wich is when jaws comes back on it no longer announces letters when I backspace to erase things, and it no longer reads when I arrow up and down, hmmmmm

Any ideas now?


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hi there: I just listened to your detrital it’s great. I did convert it to mp3 using a youtube converter called songr. Now, if you want a copy of it. Branden just write me off list I’ll give it to you via drop box. You can do as you wish with it. I assume it’s for windows ten!

 

From: Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@...]
Sent: March-06-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,