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Re: pass through keystroke

Kevin Cussick
 

I think it is nvda f 2 I hesitate to give this as I have not tested sorry if it is not correct.

On 07/03/2016 18:38, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
Hey guys is there a pass through keystroke for NVDA?Maybe if there is
and I try that it might let me turn speech on jaws?What do you all think?


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

if someone sends me the url I will convert to mp3 and can make available to anyone who wants it.

On 07/03/2016 18:14, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think that's a great idea.



On 3/7/2016 9:36 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Brandon,

After seeing the responses to this tutorial, I’d like to request
trying to see if Cool Blind Tech or similar entity can carry an mp3
version of this tutorial.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:*Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:58 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the
gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Kevin Cussick
 

You really would be better to quit jfw use nvda then if you need to reverse do it you shouldn't really run 2 screen readers at the same time it wouldn't really take much effort for you to do this.

On 07/03/2016 15:38, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
Hi everyone, I’m not sure where I should be asking this question, here
on the NVDA list or the jaws list.Please forgive me if I’m wrong in
asking here.Sometimes I use jaws & NVDA simoltaniously. The reason for
this is I use NVDA to read in my native tongue, and jaws to read in
English.Let’s say I’m in a webpage reading with jaws, and I need to
switch to NVDA I click insert plus s to turn off speech in jaws and then
I turn on NVDA with control alt n.this is great I do what I need to do
with nvda. The problem is when I want to go back to jaws I axially half
to exit NVDA because the muting NVDA and clicking insert s to turn jaws
speech back on doesn’t work when running NVDA. Any ideas how I can solve
this problem?

Thanks for any responses

Regards

Zoe


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Gene
 

Increasingly sites are having problems when used with IE8.  This has nothing to do with Windows XP.  It is because an archaic version of Internet Explorer is being used and you can't upgrade it if you use XP.  If you still used IE8 with Windows 7, you would have a lot of problems with many sites as well.  But this has nothing to do with the content advisor.  They are completely separate issues.
 
Gene

From: Arlene
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination

Hi, I hope I'm lying! I don’t think if you are using xp you can use IE again! I say this because IE has changed its code so I'm not sure if you can use it as you used to during the xp days!  Many sites are not as accessible as it was during the xp days.  If you are still using xp be warned you may have to end up using firefox.  I hope I'm lying! I had a friend who had a laptop with vista. She said that some of the sites weren't accessible because she had IE nine.  She upgraded it to windows 7.  It works much better that's why I said what I said using xp now may be not so good with IE 8.

-----Original Message-----
From: marvin kotler [mailto:m.kotler53@...]
Sent: March-07-16 4:00 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination

Good evening list.  Running windows xp  and jaws15 and nvda 16.1.  I cannot
use them in combination, but one at a time.  Nevertheless, I do have a
problem I hope someone can help me out with.  At the moment, running a
machine with windowx xp, jaws 15 and nvda 16.1.  The problem I am faced with
is i cannot get rid of the content advisor so consequently, I cannot use
internet explorer.  I never used content advisor in contrary to what the
computer says.  Any help getting rid of it so I can use internet explorer
again would be appreciated; thanks in advance.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination


>
>   Hi  Z
>   I use both jaws and nvda at the same time some times because nvda reads
> some things jaws wont read.  I also use window eyes with nvda for the same
> reason.  Some times I'll start all 3 of them to find out witch screen
> reader reads the most.  Kind of funny with all 3 of them talking some
> times.
>   Pete
>
>
>
>








Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Arlene
 

Hi, I hope I'm lying! I don’t think if you are using xp you can use IE again! I say this because IE has changed its code so I'm not sure if you can use it as you used to during the xp days! Many sites are not as accessible as it was during the xp days. If you are still using xp be warned you may have to end up using firefox. I hope I'm lying! I had a friend who had a laptop with vista. She said that some of the sites weren't accessible because she had IE nine. She upgraded it to windows 7. It works much better that's why I said what I said using xp now may be not so good with IE 8.

-----Original Message-----
From: marvin kotler [mailto:m.kotler53@gmail.com]
Sent: March-07-16 4:00 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination

Good evening list. Running windows xp and jaws15 and nvda 16.1. I cannot
use them in combination, but one at a time. Nevertheless, I do have a
problem I hope someone can help me out with. At the moment, running a
machine with windowx xp, jaws 15 and nvda 16.1. The problem I am faced with
is i cannot get rid of the content advisor so consequently, I cannot use
internet explorer. I never used content advisor in contrary to what the
computer says. Any help getting rid of it so I can use internet explorer
again would be appreciated; thanks in advance.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination



Hi Z
I use both jaws and nvda at the same time some times because nvda reads
some things jaws wont read. I also use window eyes with nvda for the same
reason. Some times I'll start all 3 of them to find out witch screen
reader reads the most. Kind of funny with all 3 of them talking some
times.
Pete




Re: Seamonkey's fixed!

Arlene
 

Well, at least you got it fixed! It's an adventure!

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa P Geibel [mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com]
Sent: March-07-16 5:55 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Seamonkey's fixed!

Hi,
Thanks so much for all of your help and boy, do I feel stupid! Hubby
fixed Seamonkey! Apparently I had accidentally gotten it in another
language, but he was able to uninstall it somehow and he downloaded the
correct one and all's well once again there!
--
Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 


Hi all
This is the file I did some modification:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/3n3be6
Created mono file synce I think this doesn't need stereo
Normalized to make it a little bit louder
Applied compressor to make NVDA and naration voice as same as it could
I did all of these steps using Audacity. Hope this useful for you
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org
 
Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcuong@...; cuong@...
Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 12:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Hello,

Here is a youtube to mp3 converter that is completely accessible:

http://www.youtube-mp3.org/


I record everything in MP4 because I show my screen for sighted viewers. If there is anyone who would like to rip it into mp3, please go ahead and post it.

  There are also what is in the video in the description. It is so people can just copy it and view it for later.

William Brandes emailed me an MP3 version at:

http://williambrandes.com/a_nvda/


It works great, just right-click on the link and click save.

Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs


Seamonkey's fixed!

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,
Thanks so much for all of your help and boy, do I feel stupid! Hubby fixed Seamonkey! Apparently I had accidentally gotten it in another language, but he was able to uninstall it somehow and he downloaded the correct one and all's well once again there!
--
Lisa
E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1
Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429
Philmore box shared with hubby:
773-572-7897
God bless everyone!!!


Re: content advisor internet explorer

Pete <emac00@...>
 

hi
Found this on ms web page.

How to Enable or Disable Vista Internet Explorer Content Advisor
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/220110-internet-explorer-content-advisor-enable-disable.html

How to Enable or Disable Windows 7 Internet Explorer Content Advisor
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/6019-internet-explorer-content-advisor-enable-disable.html

How to Remove the Content Advisor Password in Internet Explorer or Fix Missing Information.
http://www.pchell.com/support/contentadvisor.shtml


content advisor internet explorer

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
I don't know about the content adviser. It doesn't appear to be in fire fox. I started using fire fox back around the time ie 7 came out in xp.

On 3/7/2016 7:00 PM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list. Running windows xp and jaws15 and nvda 16.1. I cannot use them in combination, but one at a time. Nevertheless, I do have a problem I hope someone can help me out with. At the moment, running a machine with windowx xp, jaws 15 and nvda 16.1. The problem I am faced with is i cannot get rid of the content advisor so consequently, I cannot use internet explorer. I never used content advisor in contrary to what the computer says. Any help getting rid of it so I can use internet explorer again would be appreciated; thanks in advance.


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Gene
 

I'm not sure how to correct your problem.  Try issuing the command alt t then type o.
You should now be in options.
Shift tab once.
Right arrow until you get to content then look through the dialog. 
 
You may or may not find a way to correct the problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination

Good evening list.  Running windows xp  and jaws15 and nvda 16.1.  I cannot
use them in combination, but one at a time.  Nevertheless, I do have a
problem I hope someone can help me out with.  At the moment, running a
machine with windowx xp, jaws 15 and nvda 16.1.  The problem I am faced with
is i cannot get rid of the content advisor so consequently, I cannot use
internet explorer.  I never used content advisor in contrary to what the
computer says.  Any help getting rid of it so I can use internet explorer
again would be appreciated; thanks in advance.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination


>
>   Hi  Z
>   I use both jaws and nvda at the same time some times because nvda reads
> some things jaws wont read.  I also use window eyes with nvda for the same
> reason.  Some times I'll start all 3 of them to find out witch screen
> reader reads the most.  Kind of funny with all 3 of them talking some
> times.
>   Pete
>
>
>
>




Re: Antivirus

 

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 02:25 pm, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
MSE is very poorly rated on many levels, and it is my belief that telling a user that it is sufficient to run it along with safe computer practices is just inaccurate.  It is very possible and likely to contract computer infections even if one practices all safe behavior.

 Nimer,

             I will simply state that this does not match either my personal experience nor that of many clients that I have using Windows Defender (and some using Microsoft Security Essentials).   I'll never have a large enough sample for a scientific study, but fear of both MSE and Windows Defender is, in my experience and opinion, hugely overblown.

Brian


Re: Antivirus

Kwork
 


Nimer, thank you for this reply, and for your thoughts. Due to smart browsing habits, I haven't been infected while only using MSE on Win 7 for my antivirus. However I am looking for a new one, and your thoughts on Sophos are good as I'm looking for something that isn't resource intensive on this old computer that will still do the job right, and is NVDA accessible. MalwareBytes has saved my life a few times, and so has Unchecky for installing programs. While it doesn't catch everything, it does a pretty good job, and is completely accessible.
You mentioned Spybot. Is that still accessible? I had heard that it broke for us in recent versions, but am willing to give it another try if things have improved once again.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Hello,

I am writing this not from my Admin hat, although the way this thread degenerates may or may not change that.

MSE is very poorly rated on many levels, and it is my belief that telling a user that it is sufficient to run it along with safe computer practices is just inaccurate.  It is very possible and likely to contract computer infections even if one practices all safe behavior. It no longer just takes a user engaging in risky behaviors to get malware on a machine, and moreover even if it did and this was the only way of contracting malware, this would mean that your expectation is that a human is 100% safe and will do the right thing 100% of the time, which is wildly inaccurate in my opinion. And even if you disagree with what I am stating, having this debate about whether MSE is sufficient or not every single week won't help us get any closer to deciding whether a user should use it. MSE is accessible and Windows Defender is included in newer versions of Windows. For you, this may be a reason to use it along with your safer practices of computing. I'm okay with that if your decision is to do so, however MSE is very, very poorly rated on many levels by a multitude of tests that I can link to if anybody is interested, and from a security perspective, it is irresponsible to tell a user that MSE is good enough if they stay safe.

Anyway, a good wiki article about tools that work with NVDA and a campaign to work with security vendors on this accessibility would not be a bad idea. I will list some tools that I know about that are accessible.

Eset Security Suite Version 8 (9 is not accessible, and the company is aware and says they are working on a fix)
Vipre Security Suite
I believe some reported that AVG is somewhat accessible.
Also, I believe that someone reported that Kaspersky is accessible once you get past the installer which is inaccessible.

I use Sophos Home Cloud Anti-virus. It is my favorite for many reasons. It is free, it is put out by a company that primarily secures larger companies, it is cloud-based and completely accessible, and it doesn't pack in a bunch of other products in a security suite that I do not require.
Spybot S&D and Spyware Blaster seem to work pretty well. Malware Bytes also works well. I use WinPatrol, and that adds an extra level of security, although I am rethinking this as it seems to be redundant to UAC.
I'm sure others can list other accessible products. Unfortunately, I wish that others would be more accessible, however they are not at this time.

Thanks.

On 3/7/2016 4:08 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

The number of "pure" antivirus programs along with antivirus as a part of security suites has become ridiculously large.  You will also find, if you research ratings at length, that while there is a short list of 10 to 15 that consistently get top ratings that if you pay attention to how the ratings are performed (and that does vary) that it still throws into question whether you have a real answer to which program is best.

I have said before, and I will say again, that you should not be relying on antivirus programs to give you 100% protection from viruses as any new computer virus has the potential to make its way to your computer before it has been identified and the signatures for that virus get added to a given antivirus program's detection list.  The best defense is simply being careful about where you browse on the web and what you open in terms of e-mail attachments.  Never open messages that "seem fishy" to you based upon the subject not being in character for the person you've received it from or things coming in from an unknown recipient.

You can actually get a pretty decent idea about your browsing and e-mail hygiene based upon two things:

  1. Have you ever been infected and, if so, how frequently?
  2. Has your antivirus program ever reported an infection to you? [You could also check the log files regarding what, if anything, has been detected/quarantined.]

If you're never getting (or very, very seldom) getting infected and your existing antivirus isn't quarantining things on a frequent basis then your own behavior is already consistent with what's wise for avoiding infection.   If this is the case, pretty much all of the commercial antivirus programs, including Microsoft Security Essentials (for those still on Win7) or Windows Defender (Win8 and later), will prove to be more than adequate to give you the protection you need.

It's also wise to have an antimalware program (e.g., Malwarebytes) and an antispyware program (e.g., Spywareblaster or SuperAntiSpyware) since viruses, malware, and spyware are not the same thing and many antivirus programs don't look at anything but viruses and closely related attacks.

Another excellent program to have on your computer if you like to download software, even from reputable sources, to give it a try is Unchecky.  Pretty much all vendors are now getting into the loathsome practice of bundling, where they'll have things like toolbars, other programs, or the like bundled with the program that you actually want and if you are not careful to uncheck the checkboxes for things such as, "Install crazy toolbar as well," or, "Install free trial of premium version" [when what you really want and need is simply the free version of something], you end up with all sorts of crud on your computer that you really don't want.  I recently had to uninstall a lot of unwanted programs on a client's computer that got there because he had one of his children assist him and neither one of them were at all vigilant about the questions asked during installation and simply answered in the affirmative to all of them.  Unchecky will notify you about what it's unchecked and you have the option to recheck anything if that's what you want.  So far no one has told me there are any accessibility problems with Unchecky.

Brian




Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

Hello,

Why exactly do you want an MP3?

Would it be OK if I made the MP4 available for download rather than the MP3? I record everything in MP4, so I could just put that MP4 somewhere.

Thanks,


Brandon Keith Biggs


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Zoe,

 

Your best option is to load and unload screen readers as required. Create two shortcuts on your desktop, one for jaws and one for NVDA. When you need jaws, load it, remembering to unload NVDA. If you need NVDA, load it into memory, remembering to quit jaws before that.

 

This can be automated quite easily using python or some other language.

 

Pranav


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

marvin kotler
 

Good evening list. Running windows xp and jaws15 and nvda 16.1. I cannot use them in combination, but one at a time. Nevertheless, I do have a problem I hope someone can help me out with. At the moment, running a machine with windowx xp, jaws 15 and nvda 16.1. The problem I am faced with is i cannot get rid of the content advisor so consequently, I cannot use internet explorer. I never used content advisor in contrary to what the computer says. Any help getting rid of it so I can use internet explorer again would be appreciated; thanks in advance.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete" <emac00@cogeco.ca>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] jaws & NVDA in combination



Hi Z
I use both jaws and nvda at the same time some times because nvda reads some things jaws wont read. I also use window eyes with nvda for the same reason. Some times I'll start all 3 of them to find out witch screen reader reads the most. Kind of funny with all 3 of them talking some times.
Pete



Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon, Monday, 14 March 2016 #cal-reminder

Nvda Calendar <noreply@...>
 

"Accessible World Tek Talk presentation on NVDA and NVDACon" Reminder

When: Monday, 14 March 2016
5:00pm to 7:00pm
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles
Where: Accessible World Pat Price Training Room
Description:

Dear members of the NVDA community:

You are cordially invited to attend Accessible World’s Tek Talk event on NVDA and NVDACon on March 15, 2016 at 00:00 UTC (March 14th at 5 PM Pacific, 8 PM Eastern and elsewhere). If you are curious about NVDA 2016.1, need answers to burning questions about NVDA, or would like to learn more about upcoming NVDACon International 2016 in April, you are more than welcome to attend this event. Visit www.accessibleworld.org, select Pat Price training room, then join the room (select “click here to enter” link, or if you don’t have TCConference, install it first, then come and join this event).

Event information:

  • Theme: NVDA 2016.1, NVDA’s tenth anniversary events and NVDACon 2016
  • Presenter: Joseph Lee
  • Topics to be covered: what’s new and changed in NVDA 2016.1, an overview of NVDACon 2016, sneak peek at what NV Access has been up to in 2016.2 development and more.
  • Date: March 15, 2016 at 00:00 UTC.
  • Place: Accessible World Pat Price Training Room

Hope to see many of you there. Thank you.

Sincerely, Joseph S. Lee Los Angeles City College (student of Communication Studies, formerly computer science major at UC Riverside) Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NonVisual Desktop Access screen reader project Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee (http://groups.io/g/nvdacon)


problem is now truly solvedRE: so problem solved

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi Chris and others I'm running 2 programs jaws and nvda.
So playing around with everything today and taking everyone's suggestions
into consideration, I have figured it out. So a big thanks to all of you
for all your help now I have the choice of either exiting one of the 2
programs either jaws or NVDA. Or in using the pass through commands and the
sleep mode in NVDA solves all my issues. I am extatic that I didn't give up
and with the help of so many knowledgeable people I was able to figure it
out.
regards
Zoe

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook [mailto:chris0309@samobile.net]
Sent: March-07-16 6:15 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] so problem solved

Zoe,
Have you tried restarting the screen readers?
By the way, how many screen readers are on your computer?
Chris


Re: so problem solved

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Zoe,
Have you tried restarting the screen readers?
By the way, how many screen readers are on your computer?
Chris


Re: jaws & NVDA in combination

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi Z
I use both jaws and nvda at the same time some times because nvda reads some things jaws wont read. I also use window eyes with nvda for the same reason. Some times I'll start all 3 of them to find out witch screen reader reads the most. Kind of funny with all 3 of them talking some times.
Pete