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Re: making a suggestion for nvda

Scott VanDeWalle
 

oh ok cool, so how do we move it along then, or is it Jamie and mike that get the final say so. smile.

Scott
Original message:

Hi Scott,
Believe it or not, someone suggested this before, and a proof of concept
add-on is being reviewed as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
VanDeWalle
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] making a suggestion for nvda
Hello.
Ok, i will bring it up here to make sure it is something that not just me
would like to see, and maybe there is a way and i just need to expand my
mind with the knowledge of how to do this. smile.
You know how in settings when clicking ok when done with a section of
settings, the whole settings panel goes away? Well, it'd be nice to somehow
put things in like a list, sort of like programs like thunderbird, or at
least so one does not have to exit settings just to have to go back into
settings with nvda n to change more settings.
Yes, i know you could probably change things with keyboard shortcuts,
however, I do not know all the shortcuts to do this yet for all the possible
things you could set. So i'm just thinking it might be easier for new
people, and me alike.lol or people like me who might get confused easily
when first encountering a new program.
Thank you
Scott
Original message:
Hi Scott,
The official place for filing requests and bugs is our little corner
of
GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>
Ideally also search to see if the issue has already been filed.
If you'd like some feedback on the idea first then absolutely raise it
here and we can have a conversation about it and get it filed.
I can and do file issues myself, although the advantage in you filing
it is that if more information is needed or clarification on
something, it's easy to ask.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Scott VanDeWalle
<scottvandewalle2@gmail.com <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, i'd like to know how to make a suggestion that I feel is a good
idea for a future release.
I don't know enough programming stuff to know how easy or not this
would be, but still I think it is a wonderful idea.
Thank you
Scott




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Lino Morales
 

I'm sure it can be done. Now there is a program fro Windows called iDevice Manager. I don't know how well it works with JAWS or NVDA or WINEyes. I'm sure Aple is on it as far as iTunes. As my wife likes to say quit your bitchen! Sheesh.

On 5/25/2016 1:20 PM, Chris wrote:
Yeah that's all very well but if you want to transfer your own music for
example onto your apple device you don't have much of a choice but to use
itunes
So what do those people do?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 25 May 2016 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Probably me. I just said, ITunes is not for everybody! Yes, you can use it
if you like the challenge and can manage it! Then use it. If you cant
manage it and find you can't use it in your windows box. Then just uninstall
it and be done with it. You can say to the list it just didn't work for me
but if it works for you. All the world to you!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-24-16 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Which message are you responding to?








Re: looking for pls or m3u file of a radio station stream

Lino Morales
 

Noah. Email me your method off list too @:

lino_and_rico@windstream.net

Another great source of radio station streams is from my buddy ole pall Bill Sparks at:

www.billsparks.net./

On 5/25/2016 1:11 PM, Noah Davis wrote:
Hi,
Unfortunately there is no program that can do this sort of thing. But
if you'd like, you can email me offlist and I can give you more
specific instructions on how to capture direct links as most stations
don't have these direct links directly accessible, which gets on my
nerves as well!
Noah

On 5/25/16, Bobby <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote:
I am having issues locating pls files or m3us. I listen to lots of
internet radio stations butt I don't like going to the web sites all of
the time. I was if you know of a good progran that will capture a pls
or m3u because finding the listen live link can be very hard. If you
know of a program please let me know.





Re: making a suggestion for nvda

 

Hi,
Rapid Settings - please don't use it until I or Derek Riemer (a member of this forum) give a word that it is officially released.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] making a suggestion for nvda

Hi Joseph,
Which add-on are you referring to, just wondering?
Thanks.

On 5/25/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Believe it or not, someone suggested this before, and a proof of
concept add-on is being reviewed as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] making a suggestion for nvda

Hello.
Ok, i will bring it up here to make sure it is something that not just
me would like to see, and maybe there is a way and i just need to
expand my mind with the knowledge of how to do this. smile.

You know how in settings when clicking ok when done with a section of
settings, the whole settings panel goes away? Well, it'd be nice to
somehow put things in like a list, sort of like programs like
thunderbird, or at least so one does not have to exit settings just to
have to go back into settings with nvda n to change more settings.
Yes, i know you could probably change things with keyboard shortcuts,
however, I do not know all the shortcuts to do this yet for all the
possible things you could set. So i'm just thinking it might be
easier for new people, and me alike.lol or people like me who might
get confused easily when first encountering a new program.

Thank you

Scott
Original message:
Hi Scott,
The official place for filing requests and bugs is our little corner
of
GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>
Ideally also search to see if the issue has already been filed.
If you'd like some feedback on the idea first then absolutely raise
it here and we can have a conversation about it and get it filed.
I can and do file issues myself, although the advantage in you filing
it is that if more information is needed or clarification on
something, it's easy to ask.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Scott VanDeWalle
<scottvandewalle2@gmail.com <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, i'd like to know how to make a suggestion that I feel is a
good idea for a future release.
I don't know enough programming stuff to know how easy or not this
would be, but still I think it is a wonderful idea.
Thank you
Scott




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
Twitter: @NVAccess






--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: making a suggestion for nvda

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Joseph,
Which add-on are you referring to, just wondering?
Thanks.

On 5/25/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Believe it or not, someone suggested this before, and a proof of concept
add-on is being reviewed as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
VanDeWalle
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] making a suggestion for nvda

Hello.
Ok, i will bring it up here to make sure it is something that not just me
would like to see, and maybe there is a way and i just need to expand my
mind with the knowledge of how to do this. smile.

You know how in settings when clicking ok when done with a section of
settings, the whole settings panel goes away? Well, it'd be nice to
somehow
put things in like a list, sort of like programs like thunderbird, or at
least so one does not have to exit settings just to have to go back into
settings with nvda n to change more settings.
Yes, i know you could probably change things with keyboard shortcuts,
however, I do not know all the shortcuts to do this yet for all the
possible
things you could set. So i'm just thinking it might be easier for new
people, and me alike.lol or people like me who might get confused easily
when first encountering a new program.

Thank you

Scott
Original message:
Hi Scott,
The official place for filing requests and bugs is our little corner
of
GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>
Ideally also search to see if the issue has already been filed.
If you'd like some feedback on the idea first then absolutely raise it
here and we can have a conversation about it and get it filed.
I can and do file issues myself, although the advantage in you filing
it is that if more information is needed or clarification on
something, it's easy to ask.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Scott VanDeWalle
<scottvandewalle2@gmail.com <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, i'd like to know how to make a suggestion that I feel is a good
idea for a future release.
I don't know enough programming stuff to know how easy or not this
would be, but still I think it is a wonderful idea.
Thank you
Scott




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
Twitter: @NVAccess





--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: accessible recording software

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Jolene

Although I haven't used it in a long time, I have Total Recorder on my PC, and it appears to be accessible with NVDA. I know you can set various recording parameters, convert files, etc. I have the Pro version, but I believe they still ofer trials and various program levels and add-ons.

Jean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible recording software

hello Dan,

Thank you for the query, for I believe I was one of those members who
was looking for it.
I got pretty confused with all the responses and responses TO
responses regarding it, but I'm still gonna keep on looking for one
that would work with NVDA and Windows 10, maybe not perfectly but at
least much of the time.

Thank you for the link to Virtual Recorder, though, and I'll read the
documentation and technical specs on it first before deciding whether
I wish to test it out or not.

Have a good day.

aloha,

Jolene.


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Chris
 

Yeah that's all very well but if you want to transfer your own music for
example onto your apple device you don't have much of a choice but to use
itunes
So what do those people do?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 25 May 2016 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Probably me. I just said, ITunes is not for everybody! Yes, you can use it
if you like the challenge and can manage it! Then use it. If you cant
manage it and find you can't use it in your windows box. Then just uninstall
it and be done with it. You can say to the list it just didn't work for me
but if it works for you. All the world to you!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-24-16 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Which message are you responding to?


Re: making a suggestion for nvda

 

Hi Scott,
Believe it or not, someone suggested this before, and a proof of concept
add-on is being reviewed as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
VanDeWalle
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] making a suggestion for nvda

Hello.
Ok, i will bring it up here to make sure it is something that not just me
would like to see, and maybe there is a way and i just need to expand my
mind with the knowledge of how to do this. smile.

You know how in settings when clicking ok when done with a section of
settings, the whole settings panel goes away? Well, it'd be nice to somehow
put things in like a list, sort of like programs like thunderbird, or at
least so one does not have to exit settings just to have to go back into
settings with nvda n to change more settings.
Yes, i know you could probably change things with keyboard shortcuts,
however, I do not know all the shortcuts to do this yet for all the possible
things you could set. So i'm just thinking it might be easier for new
people, and me alike.lol or people like me who might get confused easily
when first encountering a new program.

Thank you

Scott
Original message:
Hi Scott,
The official place for filing requests and bugs is our little corner
of
GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>
Ideally also search to see if the issue has already been filed.
If you'd like some feedback on the idea first then absolutely raise it
here and we can have a conversation about it and get it filed.
I can and do file issues myself, although the advantage in you filing
it is that if more information is needed or clarification on
something, it's easy to ask.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Scott VanDeWalle
<scottvandewalle2@gmail.com <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, i'd like to know how to make a suggestion that I feel is a good
idea for a future release.
I don't know enough programming stuff to know how easy or not this
would be, but still I think it is a wonderful idea.
Thank you
Scott




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: looking for pls or m3u file of a radio station stream

Noah Davis
 

Hi,
Unfortunately there is no program that can do this sort of thing. But
if you'd like, you can email me offlist and I can give you more
specific instructions on how to capture direct links as most stations
don't have these direct links directly accessible, which gets on my
nerves as well!
Noah

On 5/25/16, Bobby <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote:
I am having issues locating pls files or m3us. I listen to lots of
internet radio stations butt I don't like going to the web sites all of
the time. I was if you know of a good progran that will capture a pls
or m3u because finding the listen live link can be very hard. If you
know of a program please let me know.





Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

Probably me. I just said, ITunes is not for everybody! Yes, you can use it
if you like the challenge and can manage it! Then use it. If you cant
manage it and find you can't use it in your windows box. Then just uninstall
it and be done with it. You can say to the list it just didn't work for me
but if it works for you. All the world to you!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-24-16 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Which message are you responding to?


Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Arlene
 

Well, that's good they are going to work on it! If you like using ITunes.
Then use it. Like I said earlier, it is not for everybody! Yes, you can use
it in windows but it's very different in windows from what I hear. If you
like the challenge go for it. if you tried and find it doesn't work for
you. Then feel free to uninstall it! Just tell the list you tried it and it
doesn't work for you! I tried it years ago and it didn't work for me! Back
when I tried it I was using an earlier version of Jaws. I don't know if it
worked with it but for me it just didn't work out. So I just uninstalled it!
I haven't tried it since. I'll try it if I have to.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-24-16 10:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Just to clarify, it took several hours before that email appeared in my
inbox.
So, that tells me, form email or not, someone did read it and now they
are aware of the problem if they weren't before.
I feel confident that the problem will be fixed, eventually.
I am certainly not going to gripe about the amount of time it may take
to fix the problem since I have no idea how to fix the problem, or in
fact, what is wrong in the first place. they could have ignored the email.
Chris


looking for pls or m3u file of a radio station stream

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

I am having issues locating pls files or m3us. I listen to lots of internet radio stations butt I don't like going to the web sites all of the time. I was if you know of a good progran that will capture a pls or m3u because finding the listen live link can be very hard. If you know of a program please let me know.


Re: making a suggestion for nvda

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello.
Ok, i will bring it up here to make sure it is something that not just me would like to see, and maybe there is a way and i just need to expand my mind with the knowledge of how to do this. smile.

You know how in settings when clicking ok when done with a section of settings, the whole settings panel goes away? Well, it'd be nice to somehow put things in like a list, sort of like programs like thunderbird, or at least so one does not have to exit settings just to have to go back into settings with nvda n to change more settings.
Yes, i know you could probably change things with keyboard shortcuts, however, I do not know all the shortcuts to do this yet for all the possible things you could set. So i'm just thinking it might be easier for new people, and me alike.lol or people like me who might get confused easily when first encountering a new program.

Thank you

Scott
Original message:

Hi Scott,
The official place for filing requests and bugs is our little corner of GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>
Ideally also search to see if the issue has already been filed.
If you'd like some feedback on the idea first then absolutely raise it here and we can have a conversation about it and get it filed.
I can and do file issues myself, although the advantage in you filing it is that if more information is needed or clarification on something, it's easy to ask.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@gmail.com <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello, i'd like to know how to make a suggestion that I feel is a good idea for a future release.
I don't know enough programming stuff to know how easy or not this would be, but still I think it is a wonderful idea.
Thank you
Scott




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Urgent help needed. How to add an existing Braille table as a Braille input table?

Mohammadreza Rashad
 

Thanks dear Nasrin, Thanks for your response. I thought my question
was lost. I just want to know how can I add Farsi as a Braille input
into LibLouis and the NVDA. I think my question is obvious!
Thanks again, and I am still waiting for the answer.
Best wishes,
Mohammadreza

۱۳۹۵-۰۳-۰۵ ۱۶:۵۹ +۰۴:۳۰ گرینویچ, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>:

hi.
thanks so much for your question and i am happy to see you here.
since, the best method for me in using computer is speech, and i did
not have sufficient information about the braille and its use, i could
not answer your question!
if i knew the answer, its my pleasure to help you!
excuse me again.

On 5/23/16, Mohammadreza Rashad <mohammadreza5712@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi dear list members. I'm a volunteer NVDA translater from Iran. I'm
also using NVDA as my favorite screenreader.
First of all, excuse me because of my poor English writing. Since it's
not my mother tongue.
Secondly, excuse me again about my probably-off-topic question.
You know that NVDA uses Liblouis Braille Translater to display
computer texts in Braille for us. Fortunately, Liblouis has Persian
(Farsi) braille table to output Persian text in Braille.
Regarding to what I wrote, Persian (Farsi) isn't listed in Braille
input tables. There are also other languages like Persian that not
listed in the Braille input tables.
I, as a blind Persian-speaker, want to add my language Braille table
(Farsi grade 1)
into Braille input tables. and now my question is: how can I do this?
Is it necessary to add a separate Braille table for Farsi? or the
existing Farsi grade 1 table is enough?
     Thanks for your help in advance
     Best wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad




--
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written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: Urgent help needed. How to add an existing Braille table as a Braille input table?

 

hi.
thanks so much for your question and i am happy to see you here.
since, the best method for me in using computer is speech, and i did
not have sufficient information about the braille and its use, i could
not answer your question!
if i knew the answer, its my pleasure to help you!
excuse me again.

On 5/23/16, Mohammadreza Rashad <mohammadreza5712@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi dear list members. I'm a volunteer NVDA translater from Iran. I'm
also using NVDA as my favorite screenreader.
First of all, excuse me because of my poor English writing. Since it's
not my mother tongue.
Secondly, excuse me again about my probably-off-topic question.
You know that NVDA uses Liblouis Braille Translater to display
computer texts in Braille for us. Fortunately, Liblouis has Persian
(Farsi) braille table to output Persian text in Braille.
Regarding to what I wrote, Persian (Farsi) isn't listed in Braille
input tables. There are also other languages like Persian that not
listed in the Braille input tables.
I, as a blind Persian-speaker, want to add my language Braille table
(Farsi grade 1)
into Braille input tables. and now my question is: how can I do this?
Is it necessary to add a separate Braille table for Farsi? or the
existing Farsi grade 1 table is enough?
     Thanks for your help in advance
     Best wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad



--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Peter,

I recently Google the words: "embedded object flash NVDA Firefox" and found that there are very good descriptions of what the problem is. The NVDA work-around is to focus on the spot where NVDA reports "Embedded Object unavailable" and then NVDA+numpad divide followed by numpad divide by itself. You can either arrow down to the embedded bject (tab won't find it because it is really not visible on the screen) or you can use the quick key "o" to find the object. This works in Firefox, IE and Google Chrome.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie




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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

I have a similar problem with the BBC. I can use internet explorer or google Chrome without any problem. Usin Firefox, what I do as a work around is go to the link, turn off NVDA, click on the link, and when it starts playing, I turn NVDA back on. Noone seems to know what the problem is with NVDA Firefox and Adobe flash.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Hey Joleen. Both KITV and KHON play straight away. Sounds like its gonna heat up their. I heard both streams and bother weather reports LOL!


On 5/24/2016 11:15 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

Adobe Flash Player is preventing me from tuning in to the local news
online on such sites as:

KITV:
http://www.kitv.com/category/305776/live-stream

KHON2:
http://khon2.com/live-stream/

I had contacted these TV stations to report the technical
difficulties, and both Webmasters had told me that their live streams
were working properly.

Just a recap: My laptop's operating system is Windows 10, my Web
browser is Firefox, and of course I use NVDA as my screen-reader.

So my questions are these:
1. How user-friendly is Adobe Flash Player with NVDA?
2. What could be causing Adobe Flash Player to play live Webcasts on
some sites but not on others?
3. Is there a way for me to troubleshoot Adobe Flash Player without
uninstalling and reinstalling it?

Thanks so much for your folks' help, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.



Re: Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Jolene,

I am very interested in your topic as I am currently writing a tutorial for users of the BorrowBox digital library service in which Adobe Flash comes in to playing a preview of an audio book. I can forward my recent discussion on this and the solution to it if that would be of interest?

There is a good deal of discussion between NVDA technical team members on getting NVDA to work with the embedded objects in Adobe Flash.
These are known as windowless objects and JAWS, for instance cannot see them at all in FireFox but can see them but has difficulty keeping focus on them in Internet Explorer.

NVDA gets around this by labelling the embedded oject as unavailable and using the NVDA+numpad divide (to move the mouse pointer to the current navigator object) followed by numpad divide on its own which emulates a left mouse clikc.

I wonder if you could try this solution and see if it gives you access to the player?

I have tried your two links with NVDA and Firefox on windows 10 (all latest versions) and found the following:
KITV:
http://www.kitv.com/category/305776/live-stream
This stream started playing and sounding in the speakers as soon as I opened the link in Firefox.

KHON2:
http://khon2.com/live-stream/
This link did not start and a typical part of the screen showed this:

" SEARCH THE SITE
Live Stream"

Then NVDA said:
iFrame 'embedded Object unavailable' and then 'Out of iFrame' after I pressed down-arrow once.
The stream did not start playing automatically like the first one. However, I pressed NVDA+numpad divide and then numpad divide alone and it did start to play. Another numpad divide stopped it. While NVDA is reporting the embedded object, the screen is reporting "blank" under the active cursor.

With these work-around techniques , both streams are working on what appears to be a similar system configuration to yours.

What do you think?

All the best,

Cearbhall

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Hello everyone,

Adobe Flash Player is preventing me from tuning in to the local news online on such sites as:

KITV:
http://www.kitv.com/category/305776/live-stream

KHON2:
http://khon2.com/live-stream/

I had contacted these TV stations to report the technical difficulties, and both Webmasters had told me that their live streams were working properly.

Just a recap: My laptop's operating system is Windows 10, my Web browser is Firefox, and of course I use NVDA as my screen-reader.

So my questions are these:
1. How user-friendly is Adobe Flash Player with NVDA?
2. What could be causing Adobe Flash Player to play live Webcasts on some sites but not on others?
3. Is there a way for me to troubleshoot Adobe Flash Player without uninstalling and reinstalling it?

Thanks so much for your folks' help, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.


Re: Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Gene
 

The proper Flash player is already being used.  I don't know what accounts for the problem.
 
Genne

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

,Hi Jolene.


Do you have any chance to update or download Adobe Shockwave and install it to your machine. Then, let us know if this will suffice your problem.


Robert Mendoza
On 5/25/2016 2:36 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello!

Thank you'all so much for your responses to this query, for I enjoyed
reading them to the max! :)

Yes, I do have the latest Adobe Flash Player installed because I had
just updated it a few days ago.

Here's another interesting thing: Whenever I go on Youtube, it plays
Youtube videos just fine!
Yet I don't understand why it won't play Webcasts on some sites but
not others--especially the 2 I had shared--and I'm missing out on my
local news and weather so much and have been for, well, almost a month
now!
If a major earthquake was to hit the Alleutian Islands and generate a
big tsunami for the Hawaiian Islands, for instance, I'd be sorely
uninformed.

As far as time zones go, Hawaii is 3 hours behind Pacific Time:
California, Oregon, the state of Washington, etc., so I don't know if
Adobe Flash Player's weird behavior is caused by this or not.

Anyway, thanks so much for the responses!

aloha,

Jolene.





Re: Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Peter Beasley
 

I have a similar problem with the BBC. I can use internet explorer or google Chrome without any problem. Usin Firefox, what I do as a work around is go to the link, turn off NVDA, click on the link, and when it starts playing, I turn NVDA back on. Noone seems to know what the problem is with NVDA Firefox and Adobe flash.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lino Morales
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Flash Player with NVDA

Hey Joleen. Both KITV and KHON play straight away. Sounds like its gonna
heat up their. I heard both streams and bother weather reports LOL!


On 5/24/2016 11:15 PM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:
Hello everyone,

Adobe Flash Player is preventing me from tuning in to the local news
online on such sites as:

KITV:
http://www.kitv.com/category/305776/live-stream

KHON2:
http://khon2.com/live-stream/

I had contacted these TV stations to report the technical
difficulties, and both Webmasters had told me that their live streams
were working properly.

Just a recap: My laptop's operating system is Windows 10, my Web
browser is Firefox, and of course I use NVDA as my screen-reader.

So my questions are these:
1. How user-friendly is Adobe Flash Player with NVDA?
2. What could be causing Adobe Flash Player to play live Webcasts on
some sites but not on others?
3. Is there a way for me to troubleshoot Adobe Flash Player without
uninstalling and reinstalling it?

Thanks so much for your folks' help, and have a good day.

sincerely,

Jolene.



Re: NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Gene
 

No, I won't give them a break.  the only message from Apple sent to the list is a stock general message they send for lots of inquiries.  It's obvious.  The name of the program is never mentioned and it is a general message.  Did you get a different one?  They may be working on the problem but how quickly and seriously?  Was this message sent out because they actually are or is it sent out by a staff member who deals with complaints as a standard response? 
 
If you want to defend Apple, that's your right.  But why?  It's glaringly obvious that if Apple had given proper attention to accessibility, these obvious problems would have been solved long before this version reached release.  I won't give them a break.  I've seen complaints about accessibility in ITunes when new releases have come out before.  Apple claims to take accessibility seriously.  That means checking products during development, not after people report obvious problems after release. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119

Guys, give them a break for Christ sake!  They said they were working on it,
did they not?

If you don't believe them, then, ok, fine, whatever, but you don't have to
publicly rub it in their faces!  That's incredibly disrespectful!
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen" <whocrazy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Itunes 12.4.0.119


> Sounds like a classic autoresponse script to me.
> At 12:22 AM 5/25/2016, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>I received an email from apple. I am going to post it below this message.
>>Thanks to Christopher for posting the email address for Apple
>>accessibility.
>>Chris
>>
>>Subject:
>>Re: newest version of iTunes.; Follow-up: 641443370
>>Hello,
>>Thank you for your email. We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you
>>know that Apple is currently investigating this issue. We cannot comment
>>on when it may be resolved.
>>Apple Accessibility
>>
>>
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>
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