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Re: thunderbird 60.0

 

if you search for thunderbit ftp, the first page is the entire release archive.

from there, selecting the release you want I suggest doing an nvda f7 for list elements, typing 60 or whatever release is the latest then hitting enter on that, select win32 or win64 then your language then the thunderbird file.

There is a 64 bit version however you will have to do a bit of doodling to get it, note there may be a way through the builds on thunderbird.net but I have not studdied this as such as I can perfectly get it off the ftp archive easily enough.

You do need to know what language you use, for most of us en-us should be fine but if you don't care about us or need different spellings or something en-gb is fine for us to, other languages will have to know the language code, ie ru, pl, af, al, or whatever your lang code is.

On 8/8/2018 4:08 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I was wondering if thunder bird 60 is in 64 bit because I only found the 32 bit version.

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.


Re: Long Live Classic Skype

 

Well if you need it now just use skype 7 ms has backtracked yet again.

And while they said they were ready clearly they are not, I don't need it right now but still, just use 7 you don't need 8 right now, they are obviously not ready for us,.

On 8/8/2018 3:23 AM, zahra wrote:
hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have obviously

not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype cock ups
going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem unable to break

the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things. We all know the
old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be, and hence I do see

that Microsoft want to engineer it better for this reason anyway, but
sadly, its not just blind users who are having issues with the new version

and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and concentrate on fixing
before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small info
regarding withdrawing micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype classic on

September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending support
for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news didn’t sit well

with you, it looks like you will have a bit more time to use the software.
In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for feedback about the
update, the team has updated the post to say that they will not be ending
support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The company did not provide a

new timeline for the end of life of the product but did say that they will
update the post again with more information in the future.
The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward backward step

for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process has
been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be retired.
For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you will be able to

do so for the foreseeable future. That being said, at some point you will
have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409










Re: thunderbird 60.0

Kenny
 

Just use the conventional Add/Remove entry created in the Windows Programs panel. Uninstall the 32 bit version of Thunderbird just like you would any other Windows application you wanted to remove off your PC. Once done install the new 64 bit version.

On 8/7/2018 4:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?


Mary


On 8/7/2018 12:58 PM, Kenny wrote:
You should remove the 32 bit version first.


Doing so only removes the main 32 bit application files stored in Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird. It doesn't remove the important user data files (Profile settings, custom filters, current mailboxes and content.) stored in the Users\<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird folder.


On 8/7/2018 3:09 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:



Re: thunderbird 60.0

Mary Otten
 

So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?


Mary

On 8/7/2018 12:58 PM, Kenny wrote:
You should remove the 32 bit version first.


Doing so only removes the main 32 bit application files stored in Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird. It doesn't remove the important user data files (Profile settings, custom filters, current mailboxes and content.) stored in the Users\<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird folder.


On 8/7/2018 3:09 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:


Re: thunderbird 60.0

Kenny
 

You should remove the 32 bit version first.


Doing so only removes the main 32 bit application files stored in Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird. It doesn't remove the important user data files (Profile settings, custom filters, current mailboxes and content.) stored in the Users\<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird folder.

On 8/7/2018 3:09 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:


Question about audio at log in

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I have a problem. It seems that since I had this computer repaired the sound does not start up until after nvda has in fact gone past its tones, often you do not even hear the start button or whatever, it just sits there.

What might have happened? is there the load of a special driver for sound right at the start which might have got turned off?
Brian

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Re: Long Live Classic Skype

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I think though, that the current idea to make older versions of Skype no longer work is a little short sighted. I see noto gain in removing legacy support with runs alongside the new systems now already.
I cannot imagine anyone could hack a new skype user from getting in an oldeer skype system as the interface of the skype system would stop that from happening.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


There is no way Microsoft is going to release a new version of any current
application to run under Windows XP.

Support for XP ended in April 2014, and anyone who continues using it simply
has to accept that more and more applications will get stuck at old versions
which cannot be upgraded.

It's your choice to carry on using Windows XP - fine - but please don't then
complain when you find things you want to run on it and they won't.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:23:12, zahra wrote:

hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have
obviously not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype
cock ups going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem
unable to break the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things.
We all know the old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be,
and hence I do see that Microsoft want to engineer it better for this
reason anyway, but sadly, its not just blind users who are having issues
with the new version and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and
concentrate on fixing before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small info
regarding withdrawing micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype classic
on September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending
support for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news
didn’t sit well with you, it looks like you will have a bit more time to
use the software. In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for
feedback about the update, the team has updated the post to say that they
will not be ending support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The
company did not provide a new timeline for the end of life of the product
but did say that they will update the post again with more information in
the future.

The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward backward
step for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing
users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process
has been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be
retired. For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you
will be able to do so for the foreseeable future. That being said, at some
point you will have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1
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Re: Long Live Classic Skype

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No they have moved on. I think they have also deliberately brought out an end of life patch that actually tells you its at the end of its life. They want it consigned to the bin of time. Having said that, and that its slow and not much runs on it. I was glad i kept a machine around running it when my fancy machine developed a fault. Email works fine and so i could still keep up on here.


I'm very surprised no third party has not hacked xp by now and made it have some get arounds to allow later software to run. It is of course illegal but that never stopped folk before. Note dear reader this is tongue in cheek.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have obviously

not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype cock ups
going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem unable to break

the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things. We all know the
old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be, and hence I do see

that Microsoft want to engineer it better for this reason anyway, but
sadly, its not just blind users who are having issues with the new version

and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and concentrate on fixing
before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small info
regarding withdrawing micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype classic on

September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending support
for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news didn’t sit well

with you, it looks like you will have a bit more time to use the software.
In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for feedback about the
update, the team has updated the post to say that they will not be ending
support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The company did not provide a

new timeline for the end of life of the product but did say that they will
update the post again with more information in the future.
The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward backward step

for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process has
been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be retired.
For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you will be able to

do so for the foreseeable future. That being said, at some point you will
have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409










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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: thunderbird 60.0

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?

On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:
--

Casey


Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time

 

Hi all,

 

Screen Curtain August 7th build will hit the air in about half an hour from now. This build includes following changes as a result of basic add-on review:

 

  • Settings: now configurable. You can now ask NVDA to not enable screen curtain when it starts (default behavior from now on). Also, the add-on is ready for configuration profile switches – that is, you can enable or disable screen curtain while in certain situations (using an app, for example).
  • Documentation: greatly improved. It now mentions new settings, toggle state, and a link to the actual NVDA issue is provided.
  • Toggle messages: instead of playing a tone whenever screen curtain is toggled, a message will be spoken and brailled. The tone will be heard if screen curtain is enabled when NVDA starts.

 

Also, this add-on will once again show up on add-ons website under development section as it has gone through basic review process.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: thunderbird 60.0

mk360
 

You can't update it directly with the update feature of Thunderbird, but if you use the installer it updates your version without trouble.

Regards,
mk.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:28 PM Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I just saw an article in the mainstream press about this new update, which talks about a lot of you I changes, mostly visual. It also says that this will be a whole new install, but it does not install over the top of version 52. Does that mean that I’m going to end up with two copies of Thunderbird? Does it also mean that I’m going to have to redo everything in the new one so it is like it is in the old one? That is to include my account information and any settings I have changed? Sorry for the stupid questions. But the other email app I use forever always used to install over itself when it got an upgrade.
Mary
> On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
>
> Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
> select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.
>
>
> Antony.
>
>> On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:
>>
>> Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
>> provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?
>>
>>> On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
>>> Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
>>> please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.
>>>
>>>> On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>> Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
>>>> thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.
>>>>
>>>> What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
>>>> parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
>>>> fine because I have no intention of installing addons.
>>>>
>>>> The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
>>>> settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
>>>> improved.
>>>>
>>>> I am only talking general setup of things.
>>>>
>>>> I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
>>>> without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
>>>> site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
>>>> if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.
>>>>
>>>> Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
>>>> set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.
>>>>
>>>> I havn't bothered with chatting either.
>>>>
>>>> But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.
>>>>
>>>> It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
>>>> be fine enough.
>
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Re: thunderbird 60.0

Don H
 

I installed it over the top of 52 and seems fine.

On 8/7/2018 12:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I just saw an article in the mainstream press about this new update, which talks about a lot of you I changes, mostly visual. It also says that this will be a whole new install, but it does not install over the top of version 52. Does that mean that I’m going to end up with two copies of Thunderbird? Does it also mean that I’m going to have to redo everything in the new one so it is like it is in the old one? That is to include my account information and any settings I have changed? Sorry for the stupid questions. But the other email app I use forever always used to install over itself when it got an upgrade.
Mary
On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:

Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.
--
If you can't find an Open Source solution for it, then it isn't a real problem.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.



Re: thunderbird 60.0

Mary Otten
 

I just saw an article in the mainstream press about this new update, which talks about a lot of you I changes, mostly visual. It also says that this will be a whole new install, but it does not install over the top of version 52. Does that mean that I’m going to end up with two copies of Thunderbird? Does it also mean that I’m going to have to redo everything in the new one so it is like it is in the old one? That is to include my account information and any settings I have changed? Sorry for the stupid questions. But the other email app I use forever always used to install over itself when it got an upgrade.
Mary

On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:

Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.
--
If you can't find an Open Source solution for it, then it isn't a real problem.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.



Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

Howard <howard.lee.harkness@...>
 

I did a similar thing by running a metronome app set to 2 second beats, and volume set as low as it would go. Note that this will run the battery in your B T headset down a bit faster.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Larry Wang <larry.wang.801@...> wrote:
Power saving feature of some Bluetooth headset may also cause similar issue.My bluetooth headset just cut off a few miliseconds from the begining of each segment of sound.When speed of speech is fast enough. ,the first word would be missing.My workround is launching a music player then adjust its volume to zero.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages? 





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Re: thunderbird 60.0

Bobby Vinton
 

Hay I was wondering if thunder bird 60 is in 64 bit because I only found the 32 bit version.

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.


Re: thunderbird 60.0

Antony Stone
 

Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.
--
If you can't find an Open Source solution for it, then it isn't a real problem.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: thunderbird 60.0

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it? please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.


On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will be fine enough.




--
Shree


Re: Long Live Classic Skype

Antony Stone
 

There is no way Microsoft is going to release a new version of any current
application to run under Windows XP.

Support for XP ended in April 2014, and anyone who continues using it simply
has to accept that more and more applications will get stuck at old versions
which cannot be upgraded.

It's your choice to carry on using Windows XP - fine - but please don't then
complain when you find things you want to run on it and they won't.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:23:12, zahra wrote:

hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have
obviously not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype
cock ups going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem
unable to break the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things.
We all know the old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be,
and hence I do see that Microsoft want to engineer it better for this
reason anyway, but sadly, its not just blind users who are having issues
with the new version and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and
concentrate on fixing before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small info
regarding withdrawing micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype classic
on September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending
support for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news
didn’t sit well with you, it looks like you will have a bit more time to
use the software. In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for
feedback about the update, the team has updated the post to say that they
will not be ending support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The
company did not provide a new timeline for the end of life of the product
but did say that they will update the post again with more information in
the future.

The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward backward
step for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing
users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process
has been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be
retired. For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you
will be able to do so for the foreseeable future. That being said, at some
point you will have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1
--
Anyone that's normal doesn't really achieve much.

- Mark Blair, Australian rocket engineer

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Long Live Classic Skype

 

hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have obviously

not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype cock ups
going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem unable to break

the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things. We all know the
old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be, and hence I do see

that Microsoft want to engineer it better for this reason anyway, but
sadly, its not just blind users who are having issues with the new version

and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and concentrate on fixing
before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small info
regarding withdrawing micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype classic on

September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending support
for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news didn’t sit well

with you, it looks like you will have a bit more time to use the software.
In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for feedback about the
update, the team has updated the post to say that they will not be ending
support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The company did not provide a

new timeline for the end of life of the product but did say that they will
update the post again with more information in the future.
The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward backward step

for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process has
been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be retired.
For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you will be able to

do so for the foreseeable future. That being said, at some point you will
have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
Inamuddin.ronaque@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409










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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: thunderbird 60.0

Roger Stewart
 

I just ran Ninite for Thunderbird, and I'm now on version 60.0

Roger

On 8/7/2018 12:44 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well the easiest way to get it will be at

https://www.thunderbird.net/

for the more adventurous of you all

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/

In there select a release, thats 60, just 60.0 no beta, etc.

Select your language, en-us is what I use but en-gb is the global english or any other language.

then win32 is the standard thunderbird, or win 64 or win x64 is the 64 bit directory.

Download that file they are all called the same.

uninstall from add remove programs your old version of thunderbird and then install the new one.


On 8/7/2018 3:25 PM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it? please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.


On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will be fine enough.





.