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Re: thunderbird 60.0

Hareth <hareth4m@...>
 

On 8/8/18, Narayan <krishnashree1221@gmail.com> wrote:
I tried as your suggestion, but the webpage

display the message as follow

404 Not Found
File not found. Note: if you are looking for a directory, make sure to
include a trailing "/" at the end of your URL.

so what is the solution?

On 8/7/2018 9:30 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64
and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.
--
Shree





Re: Microsoft Word 2016 stop working.

Daniele Casarola
 

Brian:
- The problem regards only NVDA and Microsoft Word. I don't need to reboot the machine, all other applications works correctly.
- If I restart NVDA sometimes Microsoft Word unlock and I can continue to work normally. Sometimes Microsoft Word crashes and automatically reopen the last saved file. I lose from 0 to 1 minute of job, because I've set auto save every 1 minute.

Quentin:
- If I alt+tab and back in Microsoft Word it doesn't fix.
- As said above, if I restart NVDA sometimes Microsoft Word works again, sometimes it doesn't. Most of the time it doesn't.
- It happens with any document, both my company documents and new blank document. I want to specify that my Microsoft Word installation is a standard installation with no adon or particular setting. The problem appears also if Microsoft Word is launched in Safe Mode.
- I can't recognize a regular reason why it happens, it seems random to me. Sometime 3 times per day, sometime 10 times. If I type the same text I typed before crash, it doesn't crash again, so it doesn't depend of the specific text.

Travis Siege
- I work alternately on two machines which has the same applications installed and same setting. One is a laptop Asus Zenbook CPU i7 6700HQ and 16GB Ram. The other is a small workstation CPU i7 8700, 16GB Ram. On both the machine the same exact problem.
- The document I work with has no online connection, I mean that if I want I can work offline.
- When Microsoft Word is blocked, I've opened Windows Task Manager to check CPU, GPU and RAM usage, but the percentage is low for all the components.
- Usually I create diferent Microsoft Word document. I mean that I don't work on the same for hours and hours. I produce multiple documents, and each time I close and reopen Microsoft Word. I work on one istance of Microsoft Word at time. The crash happens also in documents that I've opened since few minutes.
- I've tried to work using Windows Notepad application for one day, just to test. I simply pasted the text typed from Notepad to Microsoft Word continuosly. No crash in this way. Of course the workflow is slower.

I've set log mode to debug.
I've attached the two files (nvda.log and nvda_old.log) from the %temp% folder.

This is the steps
1. Run nvda
2. Start to type in Word
3. Word stop working.
4. Wait a while but no audio feedback from NVDA and Word not working still.
5. Restart NVDA with CTRL+ALT+N
6. Microsoft Word automatically reopen last saved document
7. Copy paste nvda.log and nvda_old.log from %temp% to a new folder and attached to this post.

Link to the files:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1U_FyD1E5_B9taS-hqdgucpZra8LVjCki
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NdLFAM8I9lzcs4Gs5uprF8cg2rHro_Zz

thanks so much for the support.


rude braille

Brian Tew
 

A big problem for me using skype in braille is that each message is not allowed to finish
if another message arrives. the speech is much more well-behaved--
each message is spoken completely before the next one begins. Is there a way to make braille
behave that way? Ideably I would like to control what I read instead of the incoming message
snatching the focus each time.
thanks for any suggestions.
nvda, skype 8.25, windows 10, 64bit desktop.


Re: thunderbird 60.0

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

I tried as your suggestion, but the webpage

display the message as follow

404 Not Found
File not found. Note: if you are looking for a directory, make sure to include a trailing "/" at the end of your URL.

so what is the solution?

On 8/7/2018 9:30 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.
--
Shree


Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time

 

Hi,

Gesture assignment: yes, it should be mentioned, and I’ll do just that for Screen Curtain for the next release (in September).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time

 

Hi Joseph

 

Just downloaded the screen curtain add on hearing screen curtain on and off i like that much better than the beeps.

 

I also checked out the documentation as well and had a quick read.

 

I think maybe some people may know or some will not that you can asign a short cut key to turn it on and off. There was no mention in the help section or where to go if you are a new user of the add on.

 

I Until i looked under the gestures section then tools then screen curtain i did not know where this could be done.

 

Some people may not be aware you can asign a gesture to some of the add ons.

 

Do you reckon it needs to be mentioned or not just looking at it from a new user.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 8/8/2018 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Screen Curtain August 7th build will hit the air in about half an hour from now. This build includes following changes as a result of basic add-on review:

 

  • Settings: now configurable. You can now ask NVDA to not enable screen curtain when it starts (default behavior from now on). Also, the add-on is ready for configuration profile switches – that is, you can enable or disable screen curtain while in certain situations (using an app, for example).
  • Documentation: greatly improved. It now mentions new settings, toggle state, and a link to the actual NVDA issue is provided.
  • Toggle messages: instead of playing a tone whenever screen curtain is toggled, a message will be spoken and brailled. The tone will be heard if screen curtain is enabled when NVDA starts.

 

Also, this add-on will once again show up on add-ons website under development section as it has gone through basic review process.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: thunderbird 60.0

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

HI CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PASS ALONG THE LINK FOR THE 64 bit installer for Thunderbird.

So can all get the correct link for that piece of software.

On 8/7/2018 3:37 PM, Kenny wrote:
Just use the conventional Add/Remove entry created in the Windows Programs panel. Uninstall the 32 bit version of Thunderbird just like you would any other Windows application you wanted to remove off your PC. Once done install the new 64 bit version.


On 8/7/2018 4:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?


Mary


On 8/7/2018 12:58 PM, Kenny wrote:
You should remove the 32 bit version first.


Doing so only removes the main 32 bit application files stored in Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird. It doesn't remove the important user data files (Profile settings, custom filters, current mailboxes and content.) stored in the Users\<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird folder.


On 8/7/2018 3:09 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:




--

Casey


Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Joseph


Just downloaded the screen curtain add on hearing screen curtain on and off i like that much better than the beeps.


I also checked out the documentation as well and had a quick read.


I think maybe some people may know or some will not that you can asign a short cut key to turn it on and off. There was no mention in the help section or where to go if you are a new user of the add on.


I Until i looked under the gestures section then tools then screen curtain i did not know where this could be done.


Some people may not be aware you can asign a gesture to some of the add ons.


Do you reckon it needs to be mentioned or not just looking at it from a new user.


Gene nz




On 8/8/2018 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Screen Curtain August 7th build will hit the air in about half an hour from now. This build includes following changes as a result of basic add-on review:

 

  • Settings: now configurable. You can now ask NVDA to not enable screen curtain when it starts (default behavior from now on). Also, the add-on is ready for configuration profile switches – that is, you can enable or disable screen curtain while in certain situations (using an app, for example).
  • Documentation: greatly improved. It now mentions new settings, toggle state, and a link to the actual NVDA issue is provided.
  • Toggle messages: instead of playing a tone whenever screen curtain is toggled, a message will be spoken and brailled. The tone will be heard if screen curtain is enabled when NVDA starts.

 

Also, this add-on will once again show up on add-ons website under development section as it has gone through basic review process.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: Long Live Classic Skype

 

I think, to make sure that Microsoft takes accessibility into consideration, we need to get as many blind and vision impaired users into the insider program as possible, so we can give a lot of accessibility-related feedback to Microsoft. If they were genuinely listening to all feedbacks, they should listen to feedbacks relating to accessibility from blind and vision impaired users as well.


NVDA and windows 10 question.

Hans <lasthans@...>
 

Hello,
I have a question. I am running windows 10 on a HP laptop. My email client has been windows live mail. Over the past couple of days, when I open windows live mail and view the inbox, everything is fine. When I open a message however, I get the message not responding. Even opening windows live mail, NVDA seems to be very sluggish. I can't even open it the usual way. And faxed the search box isn't even being read. I have to use the windows 10 default mail client to read my email right now. Other than navigating around the desktop, taskbar and notification area. NVDA seems to be going very sluggish. Any ideas what's going on? I have heard somewhere, that this may have to do with an update from either Microsoft or NVDA. Could somebody clear this up for me please.


Re: A very unusual test

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Gene


Emails have only come down since i logged it back on now there were none from last night which i get in my morning usually when i check at 8.30am.


Just logged on a few times through the day there were none now they have come.


There must of been a problem with the server for the group.


Gene nz



On 8/8/2018 10:34 AM, Gene wrote:
A member wrote to ask if he is still subscribed to the list.  I notice that I've received almost no mail from any Groups.io list I'm on for an hour.  So I'm testing to see if the service is down.  There is no need to respond to this message.
 
Gene


A very unusual test

Gene
 

A member wrote to ask if he is still subscribed to the list.  I notice that I've received almost no mail from any Groups.io list I'm on for an hour.  So I'm testing to see if the service is down.  There is no need to respond to this message.
 
Gene


alfa or beta snap shots

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi guys


I just looked up where the snap shots are and noted the alfa last
release was on the third. I then looked for the beta version and it
seems a few weeks back maybe 3? give or take.


Has the crash in the beta version been fixed yet it is when you go to
open up the whats new section and the browser comes up  then it crashes
the browser.


About the same time maybe the other page comes up about usage statistics
and it will not let you tab or any thing to try and close it or even to
get it to remind you later.. This is not good if beta quality.



I am guessing it is still the same page for the snapshots.


Gene nz


Re: Long Live Classic Skype

 

To be honest, I am a bit angry at microsoft for killing skype kit.

This stuff wouldn't happen if we had our own blindy skype client, heck, if I have to pay 30 bucks for it just so ms sells us a licence I wouldn't care.

Right now skype 7 is accessible, skype 8 has issues, at least 3 times ms has tried to make it work.

End result, I am just going to have to kiss skype goodbye because I can't trust it.

Because of this I have lost some groups and probably some business but there is no point trying to rely on an unstable platform, email works and if I need to I will make expensive toll calls to places like I used to its the only choice, skype is not stable and I can no longer trust it.

I do think that microsoft and I know there are those here from ms should just port the old interface as an optional classic skype theme somehow and just give that out as an optional thing to buy along with keys for that theme so we can use it.

I'd say keep skype 7 but ms won't do that.

On 8/8/2018 7:49 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think though, that the current  idea to make older  versions of Skype no longer work is a little short sighted. I see noto gain in removing legacy support with runs alongside the new systems now already.
I cannot imagine anyone could hack a new skype user from getting in an oldeer skype system as the interface of the skype system would stop that from happening.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


There is no way Microsoft is going to release a new version of any current
application to run under Windows XP.

Support for XP ended in April 2014, and anyone who continues using it simply
has to accept that more and more applications will get stuck at old versions
which cannot be upgraded.

It's your choice to carry on using Windows XP - fine - but please don't then
complain when you find things you want to run on it and they won't.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:23:12, zahra wrote:

hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have
obviously not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of
Skype
cock ups going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem
unable to break the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things.
We all know the old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it
could > be,
and hence I do see that Microsoft want to  engineer it better for this
reason anyway, but sadly,  its not just blind users who are having issues
with the new version and I really do think they need to stop
fiddling > and
concentrate on fixing before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

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From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small
info
regarding withdrawing  micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype
classic
on September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending
support for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news
didn’t sit well with you, it looks like you will have a bit more
time to
use the software. In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for
feedback about the update, the team has updated the post to say
that > they
will not be ending support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The
company did not provide a new timeline for the end of life of the >
product
but did say that they will update the post again with more
information > in
the future.

The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward
backward
step for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had
all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing
users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process
has been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be
retired. For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you
will be able to do so for the foreseeable future. That being said,
at > some
point you will have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Re: Long Live Classic Skype

 

To be honest, I wouldn't touch xp anymore now days.

Reasons, well lets face it, a lot have moved on now its not just insecurity now.

So, here for those are the status of xp.

Firefox, the last version is 45.0, fine but not secured, not updated.

Last official java is v 6, maybe 7, but nothing more than that.

Klite codecs, the last version is 13.83, there are no updates, no new codecs nothing.

Nvda 1703 is the last version that works with xp now.

Its worth noting that things have moved on since then.

Drivers have done that to, realtech has a win xp driver for its hd cards which is for v 2.7 I think so some of your cards will work maybe.

But everything from graphics to whatever probably will not no support either.

Skype classic for now and 8 for now but to be honest, chances are that any online stuff may or may not work.

Dotnet apps that are written with frameworks over 4.00 will not work either probably and ms has removed a lot of xp downloads from its sites.

Even if you install the windows imbedded 2003 server update hack, you barely have a year now I think that expires next year if I am right, even then, as soon as you do that, you won't have the ability to run anything like office which if you are a gamer is fine.

A small exception is that even though you can't probably run them visual studio 2005 to 2010-2012 runtimes will work as well as 2013 through to 2017, however anything made with 2017 visual studio up uses the new dotnet tech 2013-2010 and earlier is the newest type of app you can run.

A note to that for xp users, you don't get dotnet by default, you will need dotnet 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 runtimes installed as well as directx runtimes for 8 and 9 and 10 and others installed.

There hasn't been security updates for most of the dotnet things bar 4x and sometimes 3.5 sp1 since ages now but because of win7 dotnet is still updated a bit.

For win10, there are no dotnet updates as such or maybe they are handled differently who knows.

It does always seem though in win10 that your latest whatever component you install from setup is always the latest one and maybe they keep themselves updated.

On 8/8/2018 7:46 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No they have moved on. I think they have also deliberately brought out an end of life patch that actually tells you its at the end of its life. They want it consigned to the bin of time. Having said that, and that its slow and not much runs on it. I was glad i kept a machine around running it when my fancy machine developed a fault. Email works fine and so i could still keep up on here.


I'm very surprised no third party has not hacked xp by now and made it have some get arounds to allow later software to run. It is of course illegal but that never stopped folk before. Note dear reader this is tongue in cheek.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have obviously

not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype cock ups
going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem unable to break

the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things. We all know the
old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be, and hence I do see

that Microsoft want to  engineer it better for this reason anyway, but
sadly,  its not just blind users who are having issues with the new version

and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and concentrate on fixing
before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Inam Uddin via Groups.Io" <charlsdarwin1969=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


Dear friends, in replying a message, I gave you some sort of small info
regarding withdrawing  micro soft’s decision of closure of Skype classic on

September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending support
for version 7.0 of classic Skype in September. If that news didn’t sit well

with you, it looks like you will have a bit more time to use the software.
In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for feedback about the
update, the team has updated the post to say that they will not be ending
support Skype 7 and will extend the deadline. The company did not provide a

new timeline for the end of life of the product but did say that they will
update the post again with more information in the future.
The full post can be read below:

The team says that this change is based on customer feedback but is
ambiguous about the future of the platform. This is an awkward backward step

for the Skype team as they previously said that Skype 8 had all the
functionality that users needed but clearly that is not the case.
For the past couple of weeks, Microsoft has been aggressively pushing users

to upgrade from version 7 to 8 but it’s clear that this update process has
been far from painless.
I have reached out to Microsoft about this change to see if they will
provide any additional information about when this product will be retired.
For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you will be able to

do so for the foreseeable future. That being said, at some point you will
have to migrate to a newer version of the software.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@gmail.com
Inamuddin.ronaque@gmail.com
outlook:
inam092@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409










Re: thunderbird 60.0

 

Probably however as with all betas best practice is to uninstall all beta software before installing stable versions.

And before you ask versions 53-59 are all betas.

On 8/8/2018 7:09 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:


Re: thunderbird 60.0

 

Uninstall 52 first then install the new version.

You will not loose any configurations or data so go ahead.

On 8/8/2018 5:28 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I just saw an article in the mainstream press about this new update, which talks about a lot of you I changes, mostly visual. It also says that this will be a whole new install, but it does not install over the top of version 52. Does that mean that I’m going to end up with two copies of Thunderbird? Does it also mean that I’m going to have to redo everything in the new one so it is like it is in the old one? That is to include my account information and any settings I have changed? Sorry for the stupid questions. But the other email app I use forever always used to install over itself when it got an upgrade.
Mary
On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:00 AM, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.
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Re: thunderbird 60.0

 

if you search for thunderbit ftp, the first page is the entire release archive.

from there, selecting the release you want I suggest doing an nvda f7 for list elements, typing 60 or whatever release is the latest then hitting enter on that, select win32 or win64 then your language then the thunderbird file.

There is a 64 bit version however you will have to do a bit of doodling to get it, note there may be a way through the builds on thunderbird.net but I have not studdied this as such as I can perfectly get it off the ftp archive easily enough.

You do need to know what language you use, for most of us en-us should be fine but if you don't care about us or need different spellings or something en-gb is fine for us to, other languages will have to know the language code, ie ru, pl, af, al, or whatever your lang code is.

On 8/8/2018 4:08 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I was wondering if thunder bird 60 is in 64 bit because I only found the 32 bit version.

On 8/7/2018 12:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and
select the language you want; the next page gives you the download link.


Antony.

On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 17:51:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi, where can i get 64 bit version of Thunderbird? I visited using
provided link, but there i couldn't get this. any idea?

On 8/7/2018 8:55 AM, Narayan wrote:
Is there Thunderbird 60 is available? if yes, where can we get it?
please provide link or give instruction to get it. thank you.

On 8/7/2018 6:10 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well I must say after updating I chose to use the 64 bit addition of
thunderbird from mozilla ftp as I thought why not.

What I found out is that while most to the dialogs are accessible
parts of the addon search dialog and install dialogs are not, thats
fine because I have no intention of installing addons.

The cpu usage is a bit up, also it will not honor your intergration
settings, it kept asking me and I had to tell it to not ask me again.


Otherwise, generally things are accessible, and descriptions have
improved.

I am only talking general setup of things.

I do wander though if there is a way to install addons to thunderbird
without the installer web interface, as its the brouser in the addons
site which has access issues, the site itself is fine in a brouser so
if I download an addon say google search I want a way to load it.

Bar that most of it seems fine though its only for email that I have
set up, no news, no rss nothing like that.

I havn't bothered with chatting either.

But at least thunderbird quantom is not the same as firefox quantom.

It does seem though that I can drop back to the older esr and it will
be fine enough.


Re: Long Live Classic Skype

 

Well if you need it now just use skype 7 ms has backtracked yet again.

And while they said they were ready clearly they are not, I don't need it right now but still, just use 7 you don't need 8 right now, they are obviously not ready for us,.

On 8/8/2018 3:23 AM, zahra wrote:
hi.
i one time tested skype, but because i cant use and dont love windows
seven, skype 8 does not work for me.
when i tested with windows seven, it was extremely great and realy love it!
but the only issue is not supporting windows xp.
i wish that microsoft readd support for windows xp in to skype eight.
as skype is an important software for me and i realy need it, i
sincerely appreciate your great and joyful news and God bless you!

On 8/7/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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I do have some sympathy with them, but the fact is that they have been
guilty of assuming they have made it better when in fact they have obviously

not made it bug free as well. There is a long history of Skype cock ups
going back way before Microsoft ever owned it, and they seem unable to break

the cycle of fix one thing and break several other things. We all know the
old Skype code is not as robust or secure as it could be, and hence I do see

that Microsoft want to engineer it better for this reason anyway, but
sadly, its not just blind users who are having issues with the new version

and I really do think they need to stop fiddling and concentrate on fixing
before they retire the old system for good.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 11:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Long Live Classic Skype


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September first, here is a detailed info!
Earlier this summer, Microsoft announced that they would be ending support
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In a forum post where the Skype team was asking for feedback about the
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new timeline for the end of life of the product but did say that they will
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The full post can be read below:

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For now, if you are using the classic version of Skype, you will be able to

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Re: thunderbird 60.0

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Just use the conventional Add/Remove entry created in the Windows Programs panel. Uninstall the 32 bit version of Thunderbird just like you would any other Windows application you wanted to remove off your PC. Once done install the new 64 bit version.

On 8/7/2018 4:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?


Mary


On 8/7/2018 12:58 PM, Kenny wrote:
You should remove the 32 bit version first.


Doing so only removes the main 32 bit application files stored in Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird. It doesn't remove the important user data files (Profile settings, custom filters, current mailboxes and content.) stored in the Users\<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird folder.


On 8/7/2018 3:09 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote:



Re: thunderbird 60.0

Mary Otten
 

So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?


Mary

On 8/7/2018 12:58 PM, Kenny wrote:
You should remove the 32 bit version first.


Doing so only removes the main 32 bit application files stored in Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird. It doesn't remove the important user data files (Profile settings, custom filters, current mailboxes and content.) stored in the Users\<YourName>\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird folder.


On 8/7/2018 3:09 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?

Or is it better to uninstall the version that I am currently using and then install the newer version of Thunderbird?




On 8/6/2018 11:27 PM, mcLeod stinnett wrote: