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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
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On 8/8/18, Narayan <krishnashree1221@gmail.com> wrote:
I tried as your suggestion, but the webpage
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Re: Microsoft Word 2016 stop working.
Daniele Casarola
Brian:
- The problem regards only NVDA and Microsoft Word. I don't need to reboot the machine, all other applications works correctly. - If I restart NVDA sometimes Microsoft Word unlock and I can continue to work normally. Sometimes Microsoft Word crashes and automatically reopen the last saved file. I lose from 0 to 1 minute of job, because I've set auto save every 1 minute. Quentin: - If I alt+tab and back in Microsoft Word it doesn't fix. - As said above, if I restart NVDA sometimes Microsoft Word works again, sometimes it doesn't. Most of the time it doesn't. - It happens with any document, both my company documents and new blank document. I want to specify that my Microsoft Word installation is a standard installation with no adon or particular setting. The problem appears also if Microsoft Word is launched in Safe Mode. - I can't recognize a regular reason why it happens, it seems random to me. Sometime 3 times per day, sometime 10 times. If I type the same text I typed before crash, it doesn't crash again, so it doesn't depend of the specific text. Travis Siege - I work alternately on two machines which has the same applications installed and same setting. One is a laptop Asus Zenbook CPU i7 6700HQ and 16GB Ram. The other is a small workstation CPU i7 8700, 16GB Ram. On both the machine the same exact problem. - The document I work with has no online connection, I mean that if I want I can work offline. - When Microsoft Word is blocked, I've opened Windows Task Manager to check CPU, GPU and RAM usage, but the percentage is low for all the components. - Usually I create diferent Microsoft Word document. I mean that I don't work on the same for hours and hours. I produce multiple documents, and each time I close and reopen Microsoft Word. I work on one istance of Microsoft Word at time. The crash happens also in documents that I've opened since few minutes. - I've tried to work using Windows Notepad application for one day, just to test. I simply pasted the text typed from Notepad to Microsoft Word continuosly. No crash in this way. Of course the workflow is slower. I've set log mode to debug. I've attached the two files (nvda.log and nvda_old.log) from the %temp% folder. This is the steps 1. Run nvda 2. Start to type in Word 3. Word stop working. 4. Wait a while but no audio feedback from NVDA and Word not working still. 5. Restart NVDA with CTRL+ALT+N 6. Microsoft Word automatically reopen last saved document 7. Copy paste nvda.log and nvda_old.log from %temp% to a new folder and attached to this post. Link to the files: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1U_FyD1E5_B9taS-hqdgucpZra8LVjCki https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NdLFAM8I9lzcs4Gs5uprF8cg2rHro_Zz thanks so much for the support.
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rude braille
Brian Tew
A big problem for me using skype in braille is that each message is not allowed to finish
if another message arrives. the speech is much more well-behaved-- each message is spoken completely before the next one begins. Is there a way to make braille behave that way? Ideably I would like to control what I read instead of the incoming message snatching the focus each time. thanks for any suggestions. nvda, skype 8.25, windows 10, 64bit desktop.
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
I tried as your suggestion, but the webpage
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display the message as follow 404 Not Found File not found. Note: if you are looking for a directory, make sure to include a trailing "/" at the end of your URL. so what is the solution?
On 8/7/2018 9:30 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Start from https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/60.0/win64 and --
Shree
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Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time
Hi, Gesture assignment: yes, it should be mentioned, and I’ll do just that for Screen Curtain for the next release (in September). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time
Hi Joseph
Just downloaded the screen curtain add on hearing screen curtain on and off i like that much better than the beeps.
I also checked out the documentation as well and had a quick read.
I think maybe some people may know or some will not that you can asign a short cut key to turn it on and off. There was no mention in the help section or where to go if you are a new user of the add on.
I Until i looked under the gestures section then tools then screen curtain i did not know where this could be done.
Some people may not be aware you can asign a gesture to some of the add ons.
Do you reckon it needs to be mentioned or not just looking at it from a new user.
Gene nz
On 8/8/2018 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Casey <cwollner@...>
HI CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PASS ALONG THE LINK FOR THE 64 bit installer for Thunderbird.
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So can all get the correct link for that piece of software.
On 8/7/2018 3:37 PM, Kenny wrote:
Just use the conventional Add/Remove entry created in the Windows Programs panel. Uninstall the 32 bit version of Thunderbird just like you would any other Windows application you wanted to remove off your PC. Once done install the new 64 bit version. --
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Re: Screen Curtain August 7th build: to go live in half an hour, website entry will return at the same time
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Joseph
Just downloaded the screen curtain add on hearing screen curtain on and off i like that much better than the beeps.
I also checked out the documentation as well and had a quick read.
I think maybe some people may know or some will not that you can asign a short cut key to turn it on and off. There was no mention in the help section or where to go if you are a new user of the add on.
I Until i looked under the gestures section then tools then screen curtain i did not know where this could be done.
Some people may not be aware you can asign a gesture to some of the add ons.
Do you reckon it needs to be mentioned or not just looking at it from a new user.
Gene nz
On 8/8/2018 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: Long Live Classic Skype
I think, to make sure that Microsoft takes accessibility into consideration, we need to get as many blind and vision impaired users into the insider program as possible, so we can give a lot of accessibility-related feedback to Microsoft. If they were genuinely listening to all feedbacks, they should listen to feedbacks relating to accessibility from blind and vision impaired users as well.
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NVDA and windows 10 question.
Hans <lasthans@...>
Hello,
I have a question. I am running windows 10 on a HP laptop. My email client has been windows live mail. Over the past couple of days, when I open windows live mail and view the inbox, everything is fine. When I open a message however, I get the message not responding. Even opening windows live mail, NVDA seems to be very sluggish. I can't even open it the usual way. And faxed the search box isn't even being read. I have to use the windows 10 default mail client to read my email right now. Other than navigating around the desktop, taskbar and notification area. NVDA seems to be going very sluggish. Any ideas what's going on? I have heard somewhere, that this may have to do with an update from either Microsoft or NVDA. Could somebody clear this up for me please.
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Re: A very unusual test
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Gene
Emails have only come down since i logged it back on now there were none from last night which i get in my morning usually when i check at 8.30am.
Just logged on a few times through the day there were none now they have come.
There must of been a problem with the server for the group.
Gene nz
On 8/8/2018 10:34 AM, Gene wrote:
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A very unusual test
Gene
A member wrote to ask if he is still subscribed to
the list. I notice that I've received almost no mail from any Groups.io
list I'm on for an hour. So I'm testing to see if the service is
down. There is no need to respond to this message.
Gene
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alfa or beta snap shots
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
hi guys
I just looked up where the snap shots are and noted the alfa last release was on the third. I then looked for the beta version and it seems a few weeks back maybe 3? give or take. Has the crash in the beta version been fixed yet it is when you go to open up the whats new section and the browser comes up then it crashes the browser. About the same time maybe the other page comes up about usage statistics and it will not let you tab or any thing to try and close it or even to get it to remind you later.. This is not good if beta quality. I am guessing it is still the same page for the snapshots. Gene nz
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Re: Long Live Classic Skype
To be honest, I am a bit angry at microsoft for killing skype kit.
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This stuff wouldn't happen if we had our own blindy skype client, heck, if I have to pay 30 bucks for it just so ms sells us a licence I wouldn't care. Right now skype 7 is accessible, skype 8 has issues, at least 3 times ms has tried to make it work. End result, I am just going to have to kiss skype goodbye because I can't trust it. Because of this I have lost some groups and probably some business but there is no point trying to rely on an unstable platform, email works and if I need to I will make expensive toll calls to places like I used to its the only choice, skype is not stable and I can no longer trust it. I do think that microsoft and I know there are those here from ms should just port the old interface as an optional classic skype theme somehow and just give that out as an optional thing to buy along with keys for that theme so we can use it. I'd say keep skype 7 but ms won't do that.
On 8/8/2018 7:49 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think though, that the current idea to make older versions of Skype no longer work is a little short sighted. I see noto gain in removing legacy support with runs alongside the new systems now already.
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Re: Long Live Classic Skype
To be honest, I wouldn't touch xp anymore now days.
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Reasons, well lets face it, a lot have moved on now its not just insecurity now. So, here for those are the status of xp. Firefox, the last version is 45.0, fine but not secured, not updated. Last official java is v 6, maybe 7, but nothing more than that. Klite codecs, the last version is 13.83, there are no updates, no new codecs nothing. Nvda 1703 is the last version that works with xp now. Its worth noting that things have moved on since then. Drivers have done that to, realtech has a win xp driver for its hd cards which is for v 2.7 I think so some of your cards will work maybe. But everything from graphics to whatever probably will not no support either. Skype classic for now and 8 for now but to be honest, chances are that any online stuff may or may not work. Dotnet apps that are written with frameworks over 4.00 will not work either probably and ms has removed a lot of xp downloads from its sites. Even if you install the windows imbedded 2003 server update hack, you barely have a year now I think that expires next year if I am right, even then, as soon as you do that, you won't have the ability to run anything like office which if you are a gamer is fine. A small exception is that even though you can't probably run them visual studio 2005 to 2010-2012 runtimes will work as well as 2013 through to 2017, however anything made with 2017 visual studio up uses the new dotnet tech 2013-2010 and earlier is the newest type of app you can run. A note to that for xp users, you don't get dotnet by default, you will need dotnet 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 runtimes installed as well as directx runtimes for 8 and 9 and 10 and others installed. There hasn't been security updates for most of the dotnet things bar 4x and sometimes 3.5 sp1 since ages now but because of win7 dotnet is still updated a bit. For win10, there are no dotnet updates as such or maybe they are handled differently who knows. It does always seem though in win10 that your latest whatever component you install from setup is always the latest one and maybe they keep themselves updated.
On 8/8/2018 7:46 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No they have moved on. I think they have also deliberately brought out an end of life patch that actually tells you its at the end of its life. They want it consigned to the bin of time. Having said that, and that its slow and not much runs on it. I was glad i kept a machine around running it when my fancy machine developed a fault. Email works fine and so i could still keep up on here.
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Probably however as with all betas best practice is to uninstall all beta software before installing stable versions.
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And before you ask versions 53-59 are all betas.
On 8/8/2018 7:09 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi can I install this version of Thunderbird over the version 54 that I currently have?
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Uninstall 52 first then install the new version.
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You will not loose any configurations or data so go ahead.
On 8/8/2018 5:28 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I just saw an article in the mainstream press about this new update, which talks about a lot of you I changes, mostly visual. It also says that this will be a whole new install, but it does not install over the top of version 52. Does that mean that I’m going to end up with two copies of Thunderbird? Does it also mean that I’m going to have to redo everything in the new one so it is like it is in the old one? That is to include my account information and any settings I have changed? Sorry for the stupid questions. But the other email app I use forever always used to install over itself when it got an upgrade.
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
if you search for thunderbit ftp, the first page is the entire release archive.
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from there, selecting the release you want I suggest doing an nvda f7 for list elements, typing 60 or whatever release is the latest then hitting enter on that, select win32 or win64 then your language then the thunderbird file. There is a 64 bit version however you will have to do a bit of doodling to get it, note there may be a way through the builds on thunderbird.net but I have not studdied this as such as I can perfectly get it off the ftp archive easily enough. You do need to know what language you use, for most of us en-us should be fine but if you don't care about us or need different spellings or something en-gb is fine for us to, other languages will have to know the language code, ie ru, pl, af, al, or whatever your lang code is.
On 8/8/2018 4:08 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I was wondering if thunder bird 60 is in 64 bit because I only found the 32 bit version.
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Re: Long Live Classic Skype
Well if you need it now just use skype 7 ms has backtracked yet again.
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And while they said they were ready clearly they are not, I don't need it right now but still, just use 7 you don't need 8 right now, they are obviously not ready for us,.
On 8/8/2018 3:23 AM, zahra wrote:
hi.
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
Just use the conventional Add/Remove entry created in the Windows Programs panel. Uninstall the 32 bit version of Thunderbird just like you would any other Windows application you wanted to remove off your PC. Once done install the new 64 bit version.
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On 8/7/2018 4:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?
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Re: thunderbird 60.0
Mary Otten
So you are saying just go into that folder and delete the mail program executable? Or is it going to be more complicated than that, involving registry entries etc?
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Mary
On 8/7/2018 12:58 PM, Kenny wrote:
You should remove the 32 bit version first.
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