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Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Mallard wrote:
It might be my installation.
I suspect it is.  CTRL+D works perfectly under Firefox 61.0.1 on my machine, which is updating Firefox in response to my checking my current version number.

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Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Mallard
 

Yes. And it happens only on 61.0.1. Non on the 63 nightly version. It might be my installation.

No idea.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 09/08/2018 14:52, Gene ha scritto:
I haven't used the new quantum version of Firefox much but it will be interesting to see if others report this.  Can you add bookmarks without using the short cut?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:49 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Sorry, my bad. I meant Ctrl+D. I got confused by the messages I had been
reading, about links that can't be clicked...


It's Ctrl+D that doesn't seem to work here now.

Thanks for correcting me.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 09/08/2018 14:46, Gene ha scritto:
Control enter isn't the command to add a site to favorites. the
command is control d.  It's the same command in Internet Explorer and
Chrome.  Control enter opens a link in a new tab. Control shift opens
a link in a new window.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:36 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I notice this behaviour more and more in Firefox lately.

Plus the fact that I don't seem to be able to add a site to favourites
by pressing Ctrl+Enter, as I've always done up to now.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/08/2018 22:20, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:

Hi all.

I hope someone can help me here.

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with
the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the
num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case?

Thank you

Scott

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Re: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification

Brice Mijares
 

I use send space daily. I use firefox with no scripts which hasn't let me down yet. knock on wood!

On 8/9/2018 7:46 AM, Gene wrote:
If you get it after downloading something from Send Space, then you have probably contracted ad ware from being a free user and downloading from Send Space with scripts enabled.
You should never download anything from Send Space as a free user with JAVA scripts enabled and if you use Internet Explorer, Active X controls should be disabled as well.
Send Space has a long and bad record of having hacked advertising on their site that, when you download files places unwanted programs on the machine or actual malware.� The site itself is clean but they are much more likely to have hacked third party advertising than other reputable sites.
If you are a paid user, you don't have to worry.� Advertising isn't displayed.� If you take the precautions I've discussed as a free user, you don't have to worry.� No advertising is displayed.
Note that I am not saying that all files you download from Send Space are safe.� That's a different question.� But if you trust the sender, then the file will remain safe if it was safe when the person uploaded it to the site.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Ervin, Glenn <mailto:glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 9:30 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification
I thought that I had done that, and it seems that I had to clear the history for the past month to make them stop.
Seems like I start getting them after downloading something from Send Space.
Glenn
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Holger Fiallo
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:37 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification
I I think I figure out how to stop google notification from showing adds. Did the following. Hope it works.
1.On your computer, open *Chrome*.
2.At the top right, click More Settings.
3.At the bottom, click Advanced.
4.Under "Privacy and security," click Content settings.
5.Click *Notifications*.
Holger Fiallo


Re: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification

Gene
 

If you get it after downloading something from Send Space, then you have probably contracted ad ware from being a free user and downloading from Send Space with scripts enabled. 
 
You should never download anything from Send Space as a free user with JAVA scripts enabled and if you use Internet Explorer, Active X controls should be disabled as well. 
 
Send Space has a long and bad record of having hacked advertising on their site that, when you download files places unwanted programs on the machine or actual malware.  The site itself is clean but they are much more likely to have hacked third party advertising than other reputable sites. 
 
If you are a paid user, you don't have to worry.  Advertising isn't displayed.  If you take the precautions I've discussed as a free user, you don't have to worry.  No advertising is displayed. 
 
Note that I am not saying that all files you download from Send Space are safe.  That's a different question.  But if you trust the sender, then the file will remain safe if it was safe when the person uploaded it to the site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification

I thought that I had done that, and it seems that I had to clear the history for the past month to make them stop.

Seems like I start getting them after downloading something from Send Space.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification

 

I I think I figure out how to stop google notification from showing adds. Did the following. Hope it works.

1.     On your computer, open Chrome.

2.     At the top right, click More Settings.

3.     At the bottom, click Advanced.

4.     Under "Privacy and security," click Content settings.

5.     Click Notifications.

 



Holger Fiallo


Re: rude braille

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

After reading your further messages, perhaps turning off Braille messages by setting the timeout to zero in the NVDA Braille settings panel will give you the results you want.



On 8/9/18, 2:38 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Brian Tew via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of briantew1951=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

The only thing I am concerned about is the stream of incoming messages.
Profiles, chat history and other extraneous information can be reviewed at leisure, but a lively conversation needs to move faster than a depressed snail.
In linux I can pipe chat programs through the sed streaming editor and eliminate most unwanted nonsense.
If nvda braille had the same filtering capability as nvda sreech I would be a happy skyper.
using regular expressions I could make my braille skype output much better.
I could filter out the repetitious junk.


Re: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification

Ervin, Glenn
 

I thought that I had done that, and it seems that I had to clear the history for the past month to make them stop.

Seems like I start getting them after downloading something from Send Space.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECT URL!][nvda] how to stop google notification

 

I I think I figure out how to stop google notification from showing adds. Did the following. Hope it works.

1.     On your computer, open Chrome.

2.     At the top right, click More Settings.

3.     At the bottom, click Advanced.

4.     Under "Privacy and security," click Content settings.

5.     Click Notifications.

 



Holger Fiallo


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

I haven't used the new quantum version of Firefox much but it will be interesting to see if others report this.  Can you add bookmarks without using the short cut?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Sorry, my bad. I meant Ctrl+D. I got confused by the messages I had been
reading, about links that can't be clicked...


It's Ctrl+D that doesn't seem to work here now.

Thanks for correcting me.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 09/08/2018 14:46, Gene ha scritto:
> Control enter isn't the command to add a site to favorites. the
> command is control d.  It's the same command in Internet Explorer and
> Chrome.  Control enter opens a link in a new tab. Control shift opens
> a link in a new window.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:36 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click
>
> I notice this behaviour more and more in Firefox lately.
>
> Plus the fact that I don't seem to be able to add a site to favourites
> by pressing Ctrl+Enter, as I've always done up to now.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 08/08/2018 22:20, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I hope someone can help me here.
> >
> > Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with
> > the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the
> > num pad using numpad 0 enter.
> >
> > So how do you click on a link in that case?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> > Windows 10
> >
> >
>
>
>
>





Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Mallard
 

Sorry, my bad. I meant Ctrl+D. I got confused by the messages I had been reading, about links that can't be clicked...


It's Ctrl+D that doesn't seem to work here now.

Thanks for correcting me.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 09/08/2018 14:46, Gene ha scritto:
Control enter isn't the command to add a site to favorites. the command is control d.  It's the same command in Internet Explorer and Chrome.  Control enter opens a link in a new tab. Control shift opens a link in a new window.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:36 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I notice this behaviour more and more in Firefox lately.

Plus the fact that I don't seem to be able to add a site to favourites
by pressing Ctrl+Enter, as I've always done up to now.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/08/2018 22:20, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:

Hi all.

I hope someone can help me here.

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with
the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the
num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case?

Thank you

Scott

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10




Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

Control enter isn't the command to add a site to favorites.  the command is control d.  It's the same command in Internet Explorer and Chrome.  Control enter opens a link in a new tab.  Control shift opens a link in a new window. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I notice this behaviour more and more in Firefox lately.

Plus the fact that I don't seem to be able to add a site to favourites
by pressing Ctrl+Enter, as I've always done up to now.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/08/2018 22:20, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I hope someone can help me here.
>
> Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with
> the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the
> num pad using numpad 0 enter.
>
> So how do you click on a link in that case?
>
> Thank you
>
> Scott
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>




Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Mallard
 

I notice this behaviour more and more in Firefox lately.

Plus the fact that I don't seem to be able to add a site to favourites by pressing Ctrl+Enter, as I've always done up to now.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 08/08/2018 22:20, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:

Hi all.

I hope someone can help me here.

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case?

Thank you

Scott

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 07:12 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

The site I’m trying to sign up on is

https://joinmastodon.org/

For those that missed it the first time,  joinmastodon.org is the site under specific discussion, and it's a wild and wooly one!  (And that's even for the sighted!)
 
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Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Larry Wang
 

Hi Diana,
Is this addon enabled and loaded successfully? If so.
After pressing NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+3  if the slot is empty ,you will hear three. Then you can config a preferd setting.Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V ,you will hear "Saved".Repeat this procedure on other slots  then  synth setting will be switched to corresponding slot after press certain hotkey.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your reply.

 

I can’t switch to a slot to configure synth settings. Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+1 does nothing, nor Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+2 to Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+6. I tried this in the Add-ons Manager, same thing. Any other suggestions?

 

Will bookmark nvdacn.com for my mum (I don’t read Chinese).

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Hi Diana,

Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save. 

You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.

 

 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

 

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

 

Thank you.

 

Diana Kwok.

 

 

 



Re: Question about NVDA and Windows 10

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Has this just started?if so has anything updated to make it worse?
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:38 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about NVDA and Windows 10


Hi,
Was wondering if anyone else is having problems with NVDA running very sluggishly with FireFox on Windows 10. I also have problems using Windows Live Mail now, as it says, Not Responding when I try to read a message. I
M having to use Windows Mail for Win 10.
I also have a problem when trying to open the typing window to search, or when typing the name of the program to start, which I did not have before. I tap the windows key to bring up the start window. Before I could tab to hear Pin Tiles List, but now I’m forced to navigate with the mouse to bring up anything in the window. I posted about this yesterday but didn’t word it as good, so maybe someone can help me and can understand better.
Fortunately I can still navigate the desk top and various folders in Windows Explorer as before. Fire fox all but hangs when trying to open pages in the browser. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
Hans


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Re: notification adds

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Kind of makes you wonder who it is that would allow them in the first place are there advert junkies out there?
One issue I've noticed recently is a change to Google. The search results are prefixed by some kind of organisation link, but it seems very time consuming and the default keeps on putting graphic and video results first.
Also some crafty person has managed to circumvent ad blockers by having the link which used to go straight to the page go to a landing page crammed with adverts, in my case for no good reason all about drug stores! Finding the link you need to carry on to the actual site is often very difficult indeed.
Has anyone else encountered this. Is it time to ditch Google in favour of some other search engine?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfiallo@rcn.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds


Got it. I turn both off.

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds

Yup. opt out of as much as you can. I cant’ recall the last time or if I’ve ever had to deal with one of these.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] notification adds



By the way, I also have turned OFF these two toggles in that same pane:

Let Windows track app launches to improve Start and search results

Show me suggested content in the Settings app
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Re: Accessibility check request

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What tool was used to make the site. What happens if you change the graphics to just blank ones, ie empty. I'm just wondering if something has made it think its a table in the tool that made it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request


Huh, yup, that fixed it. there are no tables on the page though; there are images of bars that visually mark sections however.
Thanks!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request

Hi

Uncheck the box called tables under the document formatting section in NVDA
I do not think the one under it would have to be done.

I had this turned off on your website then turned it on and then i heard it say what you said.

You must of used some type of table?

Gene nz

On 8/9/2018 8:31 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Hi group,

I’ve run across a problem and I can’t quite figure out if it’s just me or happens to others. I was on my website, www.dragonsofmyth.com <http://www.dragonsofmyth.com> and found NVDA reading “table”, “table with 1 row and one column”, “table with 3 rows” over and over again, then reading the text on the page. This only happens on specific templates for the site. I know for a fact that there are no tables on the page as I made the site. This is a new problem, that I only noticed yesterday. The only thing I can think of is NVDA is picking up the images that are used to visually delineate between columns and is recognizing them as “tables”. I would really appreciate it if someone, or several someone’s could confirm this? I’m hesitant to alter anything at the moment, as if it’s just me, I’ll deal with it 😊.

Thanks so much,
Rayn


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Dejan Ristic
 

I also use Objpad add-on to help me in such cases when an action fails. I've happened to bring it up to activate a link for me.


On 08/08/2018 22:37, Gene wrote:
While I doubt this will help in a lot of cases, sometimes turning browse mode off and then pressing enter on the link, use read current line to make sure you are on the link after browse mode is off first, might work.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

The only option I didn’t see you list was to route the mouse to the navigator item and then click the mouse button.

 

I have seen one style of graphical link that Firefox screen readers can’t seem to use at all.

 

These links have a graphic that is a background image (thereby occupying no real space and then the link is labeled for screen readers with “off screen text”. I think Firefox knows the text is out of the view port but the scrren reader commands to move mouse to content and then click perhaps are trying to move the mouse to the entirely wrong place. On the sites I help with accessibility on, we were able to tell the developers to use an aria-label instead of off screen text and this solved the problem.  But unless you can talk to the developer of the site I guess you can’t go that approach.

In which case the only other solution I can think of is try another browser or screen reader.

 

Take care

!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 4:24 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hi all.

I hope someone can help me here.

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case? 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



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Re: Accessibility check request

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The problem with this is then wanted tables will not be spoken either, even if you use a profile for the web browser it will mean all web tables will not be indicated.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility check request


Hi

Uncheck the box called tables under the document formatting section in NVDA
I do not think the one under it would have to be done.

I had this turned off on your website then turned it on and then i heard it say what you said.

You must of used some type of table?

Gene nz

On 8/9/2018 8:31 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:
Hi group,

I’ve run across a problem and I can’t quite figure out if it’s just me or happens to others. I was on my website, www.dragonsofmyth.com<http://www.dragonsofmyth.com> and found NVDA reading “table”, “table with 1 row and one column”, “table with 3 rows” over and over again, then reading the text on the page. This only happens on specific templates for the site. I know for a fact that there are no tables on the page as I made the site. This is a new problem, that I only noticed yesterday. The only thing I can think of is NVDA is picking up the images that are used to visually delineate between columns and is recognizing them as “tables”. I would really appreciate it if someone, or several someone’s could confirm this? I’m hesitant to alter anything at the moment, as if it’s just me, I’ll deal with it 😊.

Thanks so much,
Rayn





Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Dejan Ristic
 

Try also to switch to the focus mode, and on finding the desired link by pressing tab, press enter.


On 08/08/2018 22:34, Andy wrote:
Try SHIFT-ENTER.
 
Andy
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 1:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hi all.

I hope someone can help me here.

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case? 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

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Re: How to click on links when they won't click

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Well waterfox works better than the latest Firefox does, but its still a little clunky to me.
It really needs to be far more obvious and basic in design aas to get to the new content you clicked on its a bit of a hunting job. It also seems that the links do not generate the click on browsers that would normally make that sound.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click


what browser are you using? I tried two or three links and got them to work in the usual way. I saw some menu buttons and I tried activating one. I had to do the following:
I used the I am menu button. I went into forms mode. I pressed enter on the I am button and was then able to down arrow through a menu of fifteen items. I didn't do anything further such as to try to work with the menu by pressing enter on an item.

I didn't test with new versions of programs. I would have had to go online with my Windows 7 machine. But I would think that if the Firefox version 52.X ESR can work with an older version of NVDA, then newer versions should be able to work as well.

How many browsers did you try and which ones? Also, firefox works but Chrome won't load the site, saying it can't establish a secure connection. I don't know if this matters, I don't know what information the site asks for. But you might not be using a secure connection.

Gene
From: Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click


Hello Brian.

The site I’m trying to sign up on is

https://joinmastodon.org/

Actually the only link that I can seem to activate is how it works and it just plays a video.

Thanks, and thanks to all for the suggestions



Scott



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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click



On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 04:20 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.

So how do you click on a link in that case?

Scott,

Interesting that you bring this up today, as what I think is a similar situation to yours is something I just answered, and lamely (since I have no solution), is that there is the increasing use of "mouse hover over" menu systems that screen readers identify as links. The one I was just talking about is the main navigation structure on crochet.org and on that page once you're in their navigation area only the "Home" and "Blog" links are actual links. The others are hover-over menus and I cannot activate them with any keyboard commands I have tried. Once my mouse is hovered over the top level links the menu appears, and I can tab through those links, but what's particularly evil is that most of those links are second level hover over controls that cause the next submenu to show up, and I can't make that submenu appear without hovering over.

I could have sworn that either JAWS or NVDA had a command that was the equivalent of "bring the mouse pointer here as though it were hovering over this item" but I can't find them at the moment.

If you can post a specific site you're having this issue with I can at least confirm whether this sort of navigation structure is at play there.

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That is indeed a strange site. What a pity the makers cannot simply fix this as they would I suggest find a market with disabled users.

Has anyone actually contacted them?
Brian

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From: "Scott VanDeWalle" <scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click


Hello Brian.
The site I’m trying to sign up on is
https://joinmastodon.org/
Actually the only link that I can seem to activate is how it works and it just plays a video.
Thanks, and thanks to all for the suggestions

Scott

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 5:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 04:20 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
Once in a while, more and more lately it seems, I can not click with the enter key, or control enter, or the space bar and even with the num pad using numpad 0 enter.
So how do you click on a link in that case?
Scott,

Interesting that you bring this up today, as what I think is a similar situation to yours is something I just answered, and lamely (since I have no solution), is that there is the increasing use of "mouse hover over" menu systems that screen readers identify as links. The one I was just talking about is the main navigation structure on crochet.org and on that page once you're in their navigation area only the "Home" and "Blog" links are actual links. The others are hover-over menus and I cannot activate them with any keyboard commands I have tried. Once my mouse is hovered over the top level links the menu appears, and I can tab through those links, but what's particularly evil is that most of those links are second level hover over controls that cause the next submenu to show up, and I can't make that submenu appear without hovering over.

I could have sworn that either JAWS or NVDA had a command that was the equivalent of "bring the mouse pointer here as though it were hovering over this item" but I can't find them at the moment.

If you can post a specific site you're having this issue with I can at least confirm whether this sort of navigation structure is at play there.

--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134
A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.
~ Richard Dehmel