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Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

Also, the site appears to have some blind users already.  I see this quote on the home page:
Attention Braillenote users, please email rayndarren@... rather than trying to create a character. One will be created for you.
That implies that there are blind users using browsers.  As I say, aside from trying to solve this problem, I think we should see if your problem is more general.  If you send us another  page where you can't click links, people can try. 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

What does the link say?  I saw a link yesterday that I can't find now so I'm not sure if I am looking on the right page.  Is it on the home page? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:
If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 
               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

What does the link say?  I saw a link yesterday that I can't find now so I'm not sure if I am looking on the right page.  Is it on the home page? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:
If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 
               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Win10 startup and NVDA

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi All,

Does anyone experience this: 

After I turn on my laptop, enter my password, it goes to the desktop and NVDA voice comes up;

Then a long silence during which no key works;

then a message announcing the size of the window;

then long silence; and finally the desktop is working. 

Is there anyone to disable the announcing of the window size?  Any other suggestion?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:

If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 

               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

You said you are having increasing problems with links not working.  I'm not just pursuing the question for this site.  You may have a more general problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hi Gene, maybe I should just forget it.

Thank you very much for the help..

 

Scott

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Are you using any popup blockers or ad blockers or noscript or anything that may be causing this problem?  If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck, however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be.  Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

I'm not sure where the link was that took me to the page with menus earlier.  But in general, links I've followed have worked correctly, regardless of how the site looks visually and the menu I opened, I believe I had to turn browse mode off to open it and keep browse mode off to move through the menu, worked properly. 
 
If you, Brian, haven't worked with the site using NVDA, which I assume is the screen-reader being used, you may have a very different perspective if you do.
 
I'm not saying there aren't problems, I haven't looked at that much of the site, but the FAQS I read parts of read properly, the create a character page reads properly and so far, in my looking at this and that, things either worked properly or I could get them to work, as I described with the menus. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hi.  Yes I think the person who refered me to it is a bit sighted so that is probably why she could do it.

 

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

            I can activate the Get Started link (which, by the way, is another of those loathsome "link disguised visually as a button" objects),but what it does is something I've never seen (literally) before:  It just slides you down the page so that you are placed, without focus on anything, in an area of the page just below two menu buttons, the first of which is a dropdown for "I am" (you're presented with a list of occupations) and the second "I speak."  Immediately below that is a scrollable table (layout wise, but not as a table object) of various sites, with a collection of links for each one.

            This page is just bizarre.  If you can see it's easy enough to figure out certain parts of it, but even then overall it does not follow anything that I'd call a recognizable convention for web coding that I've ever encountered.   It's overall design is beyond awful.

             If you are determined to try to work with these folks I would definitely give their mobile app a try and then give them a businesslike earful about just how awful their website is from an accessibility perspective.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 06:27 PM, Gene wrote:
If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 
               Gene, what happens when you activate that link?   When I activate it, whether by regular mouse click or in a screen reader, the end result is dead silence and, in the case of a screen reader, with no object having focus anywhere in the visible area where the link activation makes the page scroll to.

                If I were not able to see exactly what's happening, and what NVDA "sees" as happening via the Focus Highlight add-on, I'd definitely think that activating that link "did nothing" and repeated space bar presses or hits of enter after activating it initially do nothing more since nothing's got focus where they clearly intend for the user to begin picking from two dropdown lists.

                It's just plain weird, weird, weird.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hi Gene, maybe I should just forget it.

Thank you very much for the help..

 

Scott

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Are you using any popup blockers or ad blockers or noscript or anything that may be causing this problem?  If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck, however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be.  Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Mallard
 

By the way, my Firefox just updated to 61.0.2, and now Ctrl+D works as expected. Who knows what was wrong... Never mind; the main thing is that the problem solved itself.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 10/08/2018 00:25, Scott VanDeWalle ha scritto:

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck, however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

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*From: *Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be. Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Scott VanDeWalle <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox.

Scott

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*From: *Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Scott VanDeWalle <mailto:scottvandewalle2@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app.

Thank you

Scott

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*From: *Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

/A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind./

           ~ Richard Dehmel


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hi.  Yes I think the person who refered me to it is a bit sighted so that is probably why she could do it.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

            I can activate the Get Started link (which, by the way, is another of those loathsome "link disguised visually as a button" objects),but what it does is something I've never seen (literally) before:  It just slides you down the page so that you are placed, without focus on anything, in an area of the page just below two menu buttons, the first of which is a dropdown for "I am" (you're presented with a list of occupations) and the second "I speak."  Immediately below that is a scrollable table (layout wise, but not as a table object) of various sites, with a collection of links for each one.

            This page is just bizarre.  If you can see it's easy enough to figure out certain parts of it, but even then overall it does not follow anything that I'd call a recognizable convention for web coding that I've ever encountered.   It's overall design is beyond awful.

             If you are determined to try to work with these folks I would definitely give their mobile app a try and then give them a businesslike earful about just how awful their website is from an accessibility perspective.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

Are you using any popup blockers or ad blockers or noscript or anything that may be causing this problem?  If the site is coded so unconventionally, as Brian says, who knows what is causing the problem. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck, however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be.  Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Yes I tried turning off browse mode and then clicking, no luck, however I notice the links say visited link, so I find that strange also.

Take care

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be.  Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

            I can activate the Get Started link (which, by the way, is another of those loathsome "link disguised visually as a button" objects),but what it does is something I've never seen (literally) before:  It just slides you down the page so that you are placed, without focus on anything, in an area of the page just below two menu buttons, the first of which is a dropdown for "I am" (you're presented with a list of occupations) and the second "I speak."  Immediately below that is a scrollable table (layout wise, but not as a table object) of various sites, with a collection of links for each one.

            This page is just bizarre.  If you can see it's easy enough to figure out certain parts of it, but even then overall it does not follow anything that I'd call a recognizable convention for web coding that I've ever encountered.   It's overall design is beyond awful.

             If you are determined to try to work with these folks I would definitely give their mobile app a try and then give them a businesslike earful about just how awful their website is from an accessibility perspective.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a problem with your system, I don't know what it might be.  Did you do the test of turning off browse mode and clicking links?  We need to determine if this is a UIA problem or something else. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hmmm, that is strange.  I’ve used both chrome and firefox. 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 

 


Re: The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If you use the nvda key + 2 key it will turn speak typed characters either on and off. If you use the nvda key + 3 it will either turn the speak typed words on or off. The nvda key is a modifier key which is either the insert key, the extended insert key or the caps lock key..


You could also try using the nvda key + letter P. This will toggle between how much punctuation is spoken.


Gene nz



On 8/10/2018 4:07 AM, Wilco wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m a relative NVDA newby just trying to navigate my way through the transition from JAWS.

 

One thing I’m struggling with a bit is the way NVDA speaks as I am typing. For instance, if I want to type a word with an apostrophe in it, as soon as I hit the apostrophe key, NVDA announces the word to that point, and then announces the rest of the word when I press space at the end.

 

So don’t is  spoken as don t, which is kind of off-putting when word processing.


Is there any way around this?

 

I have NVDA set to only announce words when I type.

 

Also, if possible I’d quite like NVDA to announce punctuation that I type, but not punctuation as I read. So I might want the reassurance of hearing NVDA say period or question mark when I enter them at the end of a sentence, but I wouldn’t want it to read out every full stop and question mark in text that I am simple browsing or reading.

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Cheers, Will.



Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Gene
 

What browser are you using?  I had no problem clicking on links, including that one and the FAQ link.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello, I’m just trying to click on the get started link so I can sign up for an account.  I guess if all else fails, I will just have to sign up using a mobile app. 

Thank you

 

Scott

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to click on links when they won't click

 

Scott,

        The site you list has another twist on the hover over theme but it's not hover over.   That page is, overall, one of the most complex I've encountered in a long time.

         It's difficult to know what to experiment with.  If you have a specific control you'd like for me to explore to start let me know what it is.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 

 


Re: How to configure Switch Synth?

Diana Kwok
 

Hi Larry,

Yes, the add-on is loaded and enabled ok. And I hear “three” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+3, “four” with Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+4, “five” and “six”. I don’t see where to configure Preferred setting though.

 

BTW in Settings / Windows 10 OCR, the Recognition language is English but there’s an option for Chinese.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Hi Diana,

Is this addon enabled and loaded successfully? If so.

After pressing NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+3  if the slot is empty ,you will hear three. Then you can config a preferd setting.Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V ,you will hear "Saved".Repeat this procedure on other slots  then  synth setting will be switched to corresponding slot after press certain hotkey.

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your reply.

 

I can’t switch to a slot to configure synth settings. Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+1 does nothing, nor Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+2 to Ctrl+Shift+NVDA+6. I tried this in the Add-ons Manager, same thing. Any other suggestions?

 

Will bookmark nvdacn.com for my mum (I don’t read Chinese).

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wang
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to configure Switch Synth?

 

Hi Diana,

Its documentation is quite straightforward.Switch to a slot.Configure synth settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+Shift+V to save. 

You can also go to nvdacn.com for more Mandarin related contents.

 

 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Diana Kwok <dkwok2017@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I am new to NVDA. It looks like a great tool for my mum who is in her 70s and losing her sight. She is bilingual (English-Mandarin) and I have installed Switch Synth 1.02 (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/switchSynth.en.html) together with NVDA on her pc.

 

Can anyone help with configuration instructions?

 

Thank you.

 

Diana Kwok.

 

 

 

 


Re: How to click on links when they won't click

Mallard
 

Yes, I guess there's something wrong at this end, because all other versions of Firefox I have, older and newer than 61.0.1, work great.

Thanks for confirming.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 09/08/2018 17:17, Brian Vogel ha scritto:
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Mallard wrote:

It might be my installation.

I suspect it is.  CTRL+D works perfectly under Firefox 61.0.1 on my machine, which is updating Firefox in response to my checking my current version number.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

/A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind./

           ~ Richard Dehmel


The Way NVDA Announces Punctuation As I Type

Wilco
 


Hi,

 

I’m a relative NVDA newby just trying to navigate my way through the transition from JAWS.

 

One thing I’m struggling with a bit is the way NVDA speaks as I am typing. For instance, if I want to type a word with an apostrophe in it, as soon as I hit the apostrophe key, NVDA announces the word to that point, and then announces the rest of the word when I press space at the end.

 

So don’t is  spoken as don t, which is kind of off-putting when word processing.


Is there any way around this?

 

I have NVDA set to only announce words when I type.

 

Also, if possible I’d quite like NVDA to announce punctuation that I type, but not punctuation as I read. So I might want the reassurance of hearing NVDA say period or question mark when I enter them at the end of a sentence, but I wouldn’t want it to read out every full stop and question mark in text that I am simple browsing or reading.

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Cheers, Will.