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Re: Accessible YouTube Video Downloading Software

Rob Hudson
 

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
I should probably put a link to ffmpeg in the
documentation too, even though I don't use it, it is a useful utility. 
Perhaps I should build a graphical interface for that one too.

I don't know, that could get rather complex. FFMpeg has a giant amount of options to take into account.
Re: Accessible YouTube Video Downloading Software

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

It doesn't convert youtube formats, but I have a program called youtube downloader gui located at

http://www.softcon.com/files/

that will download any number of youtube videos.  Read the documentation, it tells you where to go to get the support programs you'll need to do the downloading, and fmpeg can do the converting for you once it's downloaded.  I should probably put a link to ffmpeg in the documentation too, even though I don't use it, it is a useful utility.  Perhaps I should build a graphical interface for that one too.

On 8/13/2018 8:21 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,

Presently, I use clipconverter.cc to download YouTube videos in the
desired format and quality. However, I am now looking for a software
equivalent that can download multiple YouTube videos simultaneously in
my preferred format and at a selectable quality that is free as well
as accessible.

I would truly appreciate any suggestions or recommendations of such software.

Thanks.
Re: NVDA Addons

Quentin Christensen
 

You're most welcome, enjoy!

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 10:04 AM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Thanks Quentin!
Em 14/08/2018 19:00, Quentin Christensen escreveu:
Hi Marcio,

There is an add-ons email list at: https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons

It is used more by add-on developers, but anyone can join.

With the add-ons page itself, note that the main page at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html has all the "stable" add-ons.

There is a page for add-ons under development you might be interested in if you would like to test out some newer add-ons being worked on: https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html

Regards

Quentin.



On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:58 PM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I joined some lists about NVDA, like this.
Some members of this lists frequently are posting new addons and I can't find them on the community website.
So I ask you guys, there's a specific list about addons or something like this? If so, I'll appreciate if someone can tell me how to subscribe to.

Thanks in advance,
Marcio






 --
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: NVDA Addons

Marcio
 

Thanks Quentin!
Em 14/08/2018 19:00, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi Marcio,

There is an add-ons email list at: https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons

It is used more by add-on developers, but anyone can join.

With the add-ons page itself, note that the main page at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html has all the "stable" add-ons.

There is a page for add-ons under development you might be interested in if you would like to test out some newer add-ons being worked on: https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html

Regards

Quentin.



On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:58 PM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I joined some lists about NVDA, like this.
Some members of this lists frequently are posting new addons and I can't find them on the community website.
So I ask you guys, there's a specific list about addons or something like this? If so, I'll appreciate if someone can tell me how to subscribe to.

Thanks in advance,
Marcio






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Kwork
 

It was a good thought, but didn't work. Thanks for trying.

----- Original Message -----
From: "bob jutzi" <jutzi1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page


I've never had to do this on Amazon, but have you first tried setting
Page Styles to None?
Alt-V, Y.

On 8/14/2018 5:56 PM, Kwork wrote:
Hmm, maybe FF60 works better than my newer version? 61.0.2.
I hadn't thought of trying NVDA alphas or snapshots. Thanks for that too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob jutzi" <jutzi1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page


No problems using the latest NVDA Alpha along with Firefox 60.
I chose Kindle Store in the dropdown box, entered a title in the
Searchbox and clicked Search, and clicked on the link that matched. As
expected, the page of the book contained both a Buy Now button and Add
to Cart Button. I can also use One Click since I have it enabled.

On 8/14/2018 5:21 PM, Don H wrote:
Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues

On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through
Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of
the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first
heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that
there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading
level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to
be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area.
Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows
7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with
this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence
why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And,
yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: java access bridge

Gene
 

Only if you use a program that runds under JAVA and requires it for accessibility.  If you did, you'd know something was wrong.  the program wouldn't be accessible.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 6:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] java access bridge

my log says warning java access bridge not available.
Is this something I need to download?
Thanks.
java access bridge

Brian Tew
 

my log says warning java access bridge not available.
Is this something I need to download?
Thanks.
program to download videos from youtube history?

The Wolf
 

Hello is there a program that would allow me to download all my videos in my youtube history?

I have 300 videos that I want to download from my history

thanks

Hank


--
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

I've never had to do this on Amazon, but have you first tried setting Page Styles to None?
Alt-V, Y.

On 8/14/2018 5:56 PM, Kwork wrote:
Hmm, maybe FF60 works better than my newer version? 61.0.2.
I hadn't thought of trying NVDA alphas or snapshots. Thanks for that too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob jutzi" <jutzi1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page
No problems using the latest NVDA Alpha along with Firefox 60.
I chose Kindle Store in the dropdown box, entered a title in the
Searchbox and clicked Search, and clicked on the link that matched. As
expected, the page of the book contained both a Buy Now button and Add
to Cart Button. I can also use One Click since I have it enabled.
On 8/14/2018 5:21 PM, Don H wrote:
Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues

On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through
Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of
the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first
heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that
there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading
level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to
be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area.
Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows
7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with
this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence
why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And,
yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Richard Wells
 

When I opened the link, I got this: This mobile site does not currently support the purchase of this item. Add it to your Wish List and you can view and purchase it from your computer.


On 8/14/2018 3:56 PM, Kwork wrote:
Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.
There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."
I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area. Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.
This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows 7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.
If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with this, that would be appreciated.
Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And, yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:
 
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screen readers while on product page

ely.r@...
 

Did so as well with NVDA last week. Layout has undergone some changes but
once I figured out the new design, navigation was easy for purchases. Not as
true if you want to discontinue a subscription item. That took a bit of
poking about, but finally found the delete button.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

So did I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page


Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues

On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through
Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of
the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first
heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that
there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading
level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to
be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area.
Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows
7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with
this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence
why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And,
yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: NVDA Addons

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Marcio,

There is an add-ons email list at: https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons

It is used more by add-on developers, but anyone can join.

With the add-ons page itself, note that the main page at: https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html has all the "stable" add-ons.

There is a page for add-ons under development you might be interested in if you would like to test out some newer add-ons being worked on: https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html

Regards

Quentin.



On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:58 PM, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I joined some lists about NVDA, like this.
Some members of this lists frequently are posting new addons and I can't find them on the community website.
So I ask you guys, there's a specific list about addons or something like this? If so, I'll appreciate if someone can tell me how to subscribe to.

Thanks in advance,
Marcio






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Kwork
 

Hmm, maybe FF60 works better than my newer version? 61.0.2.
I hadn't thought of trying NVDA alphas or snapshots. Thanks for that too.

----- Original Message -----
From: "bob jutzi" <jutzi1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page


No problems using the latest NVDA Alpha along with Firefox 60.
I chose Kindle Store in the dropdown box, entered a title in the
Searchbox and clicked Search, and clicked on the link that matched. As
expected, the page of the book contained both a Buy Now button and Add
to Cart Button. I can also use One Click since I have it enabled.

On 8/14/2018 5:21 PM, Don H wrote:
Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues

On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through
Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of
the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first
heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that
there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading
level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to
be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area.
Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows
7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with
this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence
why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And,
yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Kwork
 

So did I.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page


Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues

On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly
inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through
Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of the
page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first
heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that
there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading level
1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to be
readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area. Arrowing
down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows 7
64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with
this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence
why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And,
yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

No problems using the latest NVDA Alpha along with Firefox 60.
I chose Kindle Store in the dropdown box, entered a title in the Searchbox and clicked Search, and clicked on the link that matched. As expected, the page of the book contained both a Buy Now button and Add to Cart Button. I can also use One Click since I have it enabled.

On 8/14/2018 5:21 PM, Don H wrote:
Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues
On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area. Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows 7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And, yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Don H
 

Just bought items yesterday using NVDA with no issues

On 8/14/2018 4:20 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Kwork
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page
Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.
There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."
I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area. Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.
This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows 7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.
If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with this, that would be appreciated.
Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And, yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FDKPS2C/?tag=bookfreeby-20
Re: Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Dennis L
 

Everythings fine with latest Jaws 2018

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

 

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.

There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."

I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area. Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.

This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows 7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.

If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with this, that would be appreciated.

Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And, yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:

 
Change on Amazon makes buying options less, possibly inaccessible with screenreaders while on product page

Kwork
 

Up through yesterday, I had no trouble buying Kindle books through Amazon. Things were labeled, and easily findable. Today the area of the page where the buying options are seems to have changed.
There is now a new heading called "Buying Options." It's the first heading on the page. The interesting thing about this heading is that there is no number associated with it. Instead of saying "heading level 1," as the heading below it says, all is says is "heading."
I think the buy and read now links, along with the price that used to be readily visible are now hidden inside the new "heading" area. Arrowing down once leads to the "add to list" checkbox.
This has been confirmed both in Firefox 64 and Chrome 64 using Windows 7 64-bit and NVDA 2018.2.1.
If anyone else can confirm, and can have any idea on how to deal with this, that would be appreciated.
Here's an example. For the US, this book is free at least today, hence why I chose it, so trying to buy it won't cost anybody any money. And, yes, the page is the same whether a book is free or not:
 
Re: NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload

Gene
 

To test whether NVDA f5 is refreshing the page or just the buffer, you should disconnect from the Internet while a page is in the browser.  If numpad f5 produces a page not found message, then it is refreshing the page itself, which refreshes the buffer, but it is not just refreshing the buffer.  If, on the other hand, NVDA f5 refreshes and starts to read the page when not connected to the Internet, then we know that the command is refreshing the buffer and not the actual page. 
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload

i tried nvda f5 and immediately nvda said refreshed and read the
content very soon at the moment!
i tested with my favorite version of nvda (which is 2017.1) and i dont
see hangs or crashes even i open many many tabs in firefox without
closing for many hours!

On 8/14/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
> I suggest you ask this question as an issue on github. I to was under the
> same impression as you.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload
>
>
>> Problem with standard F5 keystroke is that almost every single browser
>> will then just reload the page from scratch, losing all DHTML content
>> changes.
>>
>>
>> I do also know that NVDA key + number row 5 is meant to turn on
>> reporting of dynamic content changes, but, it won't always work, partly
>> since, at times, the webpages document-object-model will be rather
>> extensive.
>>
>>
>> Either way, I had just thought/assumed that it was offering/implementing
>> a form of virtual page buffer refresh, but anyway - will play around
>> with other keystrokes, alt+tabbing away from window, and back to it,
>> etc. etc.
>>
>>
>> Stay well
>>
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> "Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
>>
>> On 8/14/2018 1:59 PM, Gene wrote:
>>> I believe it does reload the document, because, as I recall, I think
>>> it takes too long than to just refresh the buffer. If so, it is doing
>>> the same thing as just f5. Of course, if you reload the document, you
>>> are reloading the buffer. But try turning browse mode off and then on
>>> with NVDA key space. This may just refresh the buffer.
>>> If NVDA key f5 is explained in the manual, I don't know where. It
>>> isn't discussed in the browse mode section. It is probably mentioned
>>> in the quick reference guide, but it may well not clarify what it does.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Jacob Kruger <mailto:jacob@...>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2018 5:45 AM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA + F5 hotkey doing an actual document reload
>>>
>>> This is something I think has been going on across a few versions of
>>> NVDA now, and, just wanted to confirm that it's not me that's confused.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently making use of Version: alpha-15854,a8bda064, FWIW.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I was under the impression that, for example, in a web browser,
>>> the hotkey combination of NVDA + F5 should repopulate the virtual buffer
>>> rendition of the page contents - I do need this at times since I work
>>> with dynamic web contents - but, it seems to, literally, just reload the
>>> page as if you'd clicked on something like the browsers own refresh
>>> button, or as if you'd in fact told NVDA that the next keypress should
>>> be passed directly through to the operating system?
>>>
>>>
>>> Or am I incorrect in having thought it only repopulated a form of
>>> virtual buffer for the webpage?
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>> Jacob Kruger
>>> 082 413 4791
>>> Skype: BlindZA
>>> "Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
>>>
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ConfigObj 5.1.0: different import paths causes some add-ons to fail to initialize

Joseph Lee
 

Hi all,

 

The second of a series of advisories regarding what’s happening with NVDA 2018.4:

 

As of today’s alpha build, ConfigObj has been upgraded to 5.1.0. The biggest change, apart from ConfigObj being source-compatible with Python 3, is the new import path for validate module. Unfortunately, the module that is supposed to be part of NVDA wasn’t added, which causes Remote Support, Vocalizer and other add-ons that rely on validate routines to fail to initialize. NVDA developers are aware of this and plans to fix this as soon as possible.

 

Cheers,

Joseph
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