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Re: \Re: Windows 10 and email

Ervin, Glenn
 

I know, you can control + tab to pages with more details, but it still is not as good as in OE.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 2:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

 

You can narrow and define your search in Microsoft Outlook. See the documentation at
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/learn-to-narrow-your-search-criteria-for-better-searches-in-outlook-d824d1e9-a255-4c8a-8553-276fb895a8da

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

 

The only problem with Outlook in my opinion, is its lousy search features.

In outlook Express, we can put something in every message field to really narrow the search, and the time frame is much easier and customizable to use than it is in Outlook.

I save many messages for later reference and the searches for old messages is much faster with Outlook Express than it is with Outlook.

For me, that is a significant drawback with Outlook.

The one thing I can state that I like about Outlook over Outlook Express, is the way you can go to another folder and when you return to the inbox, you are in the same place in the list of messages from where you left the inbox.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

 

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 08:26 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I'm using Microsoft Outlook for email now. I haven't even scratched the surface with all the features.

And you're far from alone in that.  When dealing with any complex program most individual users use far less than 10% of the features as a whole and even then only customize a few of those.

All one has to do is think about any of the other Microsoft Office suite programs, other office suites, Thunderbird, most web browsers, and more and how they use them to realize that they "haven't even scratched the surface with all the features."

There are lots of things in the MS Office suite of programs that I've never touched, including some of the programs themselves (e.g., OneNote).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: \Re: Windows 10 and email

Jason White
 

You can narrow and define your search in Microsoft Outlook. See the documentation at
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/learn-to-narrow-your-search-criteria-for-better-searches-in-outlook-d824d1e9-a255-4c8a-8553-276fb895a8da

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

 

The only problem with Outlook in my opinion, is its lousy search features.

In outlook Express, we can put something in every message field to really narrow the search, and the time frame is much easier and customizable to use than it is in Outlook.

I save many messages for later reference and the searches for old messages is much faster with Outlook Express than it is with Outlook.

For me, that is a significant drawback with Outlook.

The one thing I can state that I like about Outlook over Outlook Express, is the way you can go to another folder and when you return to the inbox, you are in the same place in the list of messages from where you left the inbox.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

 

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 08:26 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I'm using Microsoft Outlook for email now. I haven't even scratched the surface with all the features.

And you're far from alone in that.  When dealing with any complex program most individual users use far less than 10% of the features as a whole and even then only customize a few of those.

All one has to do is think about any of the other Microsoft Office suite programs, other office suites, Thunderbird, most web browsers, and more and how they use them to realize that they "haven't even scratched the surface with all the features."

There are lots of things in the MS Office suite of programs that I've never touched, including some of the programs themselves (e.g., OneNote).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Hi New Screen Curtan in NVDA.

Antony Stone
 

According to https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/screenCurtain.ja.html the
authors of Screen Curtain are B.V. Babbage and Joseph Lee.

Antony.

On Monday 27 August 2018 at 20:49:08, Michael Munn wrote:

Good Afternoon NVDA user's list email subscribers,This is Michael Munn the
new person in the list.
I have a fantastic news to tell you all that the NVDA now come with an Add
on called Screen Curtain.. I think all of you already know this. In case
you don't I'm going to repeat this once again.
This add on soon to be one of the Feature of NVDA that's enable the user of
NVDA to hide their Screen so that wany sighted people can't look after you.

Who is the developer of this unique add on?
I really enjoy this add on.
Thanks once again
Best Regards
Michael Munn
--
All matter in the Universe can be placed into one of two categories:

1. Things which need to be fixed.
2. Things which need to be fixed once you've had a few minutes to play with
them.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Hi New Screen Curtan in NVDA.

Michael Munn
 

Good Afternoon NVDA user's list email subscribers,This is Michael Munn the new person in the list.
I have a fantastic news to tell you all that the NVDA now come with an Add on called Screen Curtain.. I think all of you already know this. In case you don't I'm going to repeat this once again. 
This add on soon to be one of the Feature of NVDA that's enable the user of NVDA to hide their Screen so that wany sighted people can't look after you.

Who is the developer of this unique add on?
I really enjoy this add on.
Thanks once again 
Best Regards 
Michael Munn 
"If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than anywhere else in the nation or in the world."
Harold Russell, 
Des Moines 
1968
Michael Munn
Member:
Virginia Association of Blind Student
Delegate:  
Virginia Association of Blind Student
Student of:
Hadley Institute for the Blind
Email address:



Re: Free Synthesizers

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

It's a balancing act.  You have to set the rate in the control panel such that it is acceptable for nvda but not too fast for narrator; assuming, of course, that you use Narrator at all.


George

On 8/27/2018 11:03 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Would increasing the speed in control panel correspondingly increase NVDA’s highest speed?

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 8:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free Synthesizers

 

I know of no way to increase the speed higher than "rate of 100."

Yours is a common complaint.  I'd submit a suggestion that the top rate be increased significantly via the Feedback Hub, then post the link to same here for folks to be able to upvote it.

It amazes me how many screen reader users can understand a speech rate that leaves most of the rest of the world scratching their heads (including me)!  But I also get why that's an incredibly valuable skill to develop.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

Ervin, Glenn
 

That should do it, and if you look at the properties, you can tab to the URL, and if nothing is there, you can paste it there too.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

On the web page, I use Control + L that lands me on the URL. In the past, I used the context key to do a select, then again to copy. However I did try your copy method and it worked fine and it saves a tiny bit of time.

 

Then when on the desktop, I deselect the default item, and use the context key go to New, arrow down to Shortcut and fill in the address I have saved,, press NEXT and add a title and press Done.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

What steps did you do?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Free Synthesizers

John Isige
 

Yes. Essentially you have two speed controls, NVDA's rate control, and
the rate control in Windows. Neither will go above 100 percent. But
let's say the rate control in Windows is set to fifty percent. If you
set NVDA to a hundred percent, it's only going to go as fast as the
Windows control's fifty percent. So if you increase the Windows control,
you increase NVDA's as well, in other words, NVDA can now speak at a
faster rate. Indeed, I'm pretty sure I have my Windows control set to
something like eighty percent and my NVDA control set to fifty or sixty.


This is just like the volume control. If your Windows volume gets turned
down, the NVDA volume will only be so loud, even if it's at a hundred
percent. If you turn up the volume for your sound card, NVDA can be
louder. But neither volume control goes above a hundred percent. Hope
that helps explain it all.

On 8/27/2018 11:03, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Would increasing the speed in control panel correspondingly increase
NVDA’s highest speed?

Glenn

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2018 8:01 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Free Synthesizers

I know of no way to increase the speed higher than "rate of 100."

Yours is a common complaint.  I'd submit a suggestion that the top
rate be increased significantly via the Feedback Hub, then post the
link to same here for folks to be able to upvote it.

It amazes me how many screen reader users can understand a speech rate
that leaves most of the rest of the world scratching their heads
(including me)!  But I also get why that's an incredibly valuable
skill to develop.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

/The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals,
which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person
cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows
that this is untrue. . ./

           ~ Bertrand Russell


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

ely.r@...
 

On the web page, I use Control + L that lands me on the URL. In the past, I used the context key to do a select, then again to copy. However I did try your copy method and it worked fine and it saves a tiny bit of time.

 

Then when on the desktop, I deselect the default item, and use the context key go to New, arrow down to Shortcut and fill in the address I have saved,, press NEXT and add a title and press Done.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

What steps did you do?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

Ervin, Glenn
 

It shows the URL  or path on the computer.

I don’t use the applications key to run it, I just press enter on it.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

If you look at the shortcut properties , is the URL there? Does the shortcut work if you use the “open” from the context menu?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

ely.r@...
 

If you look at the shortcut properties , is the URL there? Does the shortcut work if you use the “open” from the context menu?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

Ervin, Glenn
 

What steps did you do?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

ely.r@...
 

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using Firefox

 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Re: Add-on Updater August 27th build posted

 

Hi,

There may or may not be announcements regarding this add-on on this list for a while, as I plan to shift attention to the corresponding NVDA feature in order to apply lessons learned through this add-on. The next big thing might be ability to update Windows 10 App Essentials through Add-on Updater, but that won’t happen until October at the earliest.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:22 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater August 27th build posted

 

Hi all,

 

Add-on Updater August 27th build (proof of concept) is now available. This build brings:

 

  • User experience feedback: when add-on updates dialog appears, all add-on checkboxes will be checked by default. This is in response to feedback from people regarding user experience of having this checked/unchecked. My original intent was to check them, but couldn’t find a solution for a while. This fix also addresses a problem where users of most recent releases could not update their add-ons due to missing wxPython attribute when running NVDA 2018.2.1.
  • Development snapshot download: fixed an issue where if you told Add-on Updater to download development versions of add-ons, it would download stable releases instead. This was internal to the add-on – no changes to add-on server.

 

Important notes:

  • If you are running NVDA 2018.2.x and happen to use August 25th build (the original, not revision A), you need to apply this update manually. To do so, go to NVDA add-ons website (addons.nvda-project.org), go to “add-ons under development”, look for Add-on Updater, and download the build offered.
  • This is a proof of concept add-on, thus no stable build will be released and should be used to send feedback regarding add-on update feature in NVDA (which I’m working on).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: webpage shortcuts using Firefox

ely.r@...
 

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Add-on Updater August 27th build posted

 

Hi all,

 

Add-on Updater August 27th build (proof of concept) is now available. This build brings:

 

  • User experience feedback: when add-on updates dialog appears, all add-on checkboxes will be checked by default. This is in response to feedback from people regarding user experience of having this checked/unchecked. My original intent was to check them, but couldn’t find a solution for a while. This fix also addresses a problem where users of most recent releases could not update their add-ons due to missing wxPython attribute when running NVDA 2018.2.1.
  • Development snapshot download: fixed an issue where if you told Add-on Updater to download development versions of add-ons, it would download stable releases instead. This was internal to the add-on – no changes to add-on server.

 

Important notes:

  • If you are running NVDA 2018.2.x and happen to use August 25th build (the original, not revision A), you need to apply this update manually. To do so, go to NVDA add-ons website (addons.nvda-project.org), go to “add-ons under development”, look for Add-on Updater, and download the build offered.
  • This is a proof of concept add-on, thus no stable build will be released and should be used to send feedback regarding add-on update feature in NVDA (which I’m working on).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

David Moore
 

I keep my computers on as well, and I restart them often!

When I arrow down through a message, the same line repeats, and I have had to use the review cursor!

That is really weird!

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 7:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

 

Laptop is on most of the day and off at night but I Maybe reboot once or twice a day or when I have to for a update for example

And hibernation is disabled

 

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 27 August 2018 10:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

 

Do you actually reboot your machines regularly? IE even on windows 7 these

weird sluggish problems occur if I just hibernate or whatever windows.

 

Brian

 

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Please address personal E-mail to:-

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

 

 

Yes, same issue here as well, along with no speech output after using the

mail app on some occasions but not all the time

 

 

From: David Moore

Sent: 27 August 2018 01:03

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

 

Hi all!

I hope you can help me.

Lately, in the mail app, if I use the arrow keys to read word by word, or

line by line, the same word, letter, or line will repeat, even if I am on

another line, letter, or word.

When I try to correct my emails, I have to use the text commands to read

with the review cursor, and press the command to bring the focus to the

review cursor, and make the correction.

My messages read fine with the review cursor, but it is getting almost

impossible to read my message with the arrow keys and the focus.

I am using latest alpha build, latest Mail app update, and Windows 1803.

It is the win10 mail app.

I have tried turning off my add-ons except for Windows app essentials, but

it does not help.

Let me know if any of you are having this problem with the Win10 mail app

with NVDA.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: webpage shortcuts using firefox

 

Glenn,

            What you document should work just fine under Windows 10.  In fact, it's the easiest way for screen reader users since both Firefox and Chrome have gone to drag and drop as the default method for creating browser shortcuts on the desktop.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Free Synthesizers

Ervin, Glenn
 

Would increasing the speed in control panel correspondingly increase NVDA’s highest speed?

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 8:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free Synthesizers

 

I know of no way to increase the speed higher than "rate of 100."

Yours is a common complaint.  I'd submit a suggestion that the top rate be increased significantly via the Feedback Hub, then post the link to same here for folks to be able to upvote it.

It amazes me how many screen reader users can understand a speech rate that leaves most of the rest of the world scratching their heads (including me)!  But I also get why that's an incredibly valuable skill to develop.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: \Re: Windows 10 and email

Gene
 

Windows Live Mail has both those features, a search feature that is just as good as Outlook Express and returning to a folder and having your previous position remembered. 
 
As I may have said here before, because of the inconveniences and problems many people have with continuing to use a completely outdated program, I wouldn't use Outlook Express unless it had one or more features I considered essential or very important compared with other programs.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Thunderbird had both of these features as well and, with first letter folder navigation now available, that is another reason not to continue to use Outlook Express.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

The only problem with Outlook in my opinion, is its lousy search features.

In outlook Express, we can put something in every message field to really narrow the search, and the time frame is much easier and customizable to use than it is in Outlook.

I save many messages for later reference and the searches for old messages is much faster with Outlook Express than it is with Outlook.

For me, that is a significant drawback with Outlook.

The one thing I can state that I like about Outlook over Outlook Express, is the way you can go to another folder and when you return to the inbox, you are in the same place in the list of messages from where you left the inbox.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] \Re: Windows 10 and email

 

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 08:26 PM, Governor staten wrote:

I'm using Microsoft Outlook for email now. I haven't even scratched the surface with all the features.

And you're far from alone in that.  When dealing with any complex program most individual users use far less than 10% of the features as a whole and even then only customize a few of those.

All one has to do is think about any of the other Microsoft Office suite programs, other office suites, Thunderbird, most web browsers, and more and how they use them to realize that they "haven't even scratched the surface with all the features."

There are lots of things in the MS Office suite of programs that I've never touched, including some of the programs themselves (e.g., OneNote).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel