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Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Rui Fontes
 

You have a What's new document accessible through NVDA, Help menu.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Pranav Lal
Data: sexta-feira, 27 de maio de 2016 01:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess



Hi Joseph and all,



I appreciate the work that goes into an audio tutorial. I however prefer a
text version of the whats new document.



Pranav





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess





Hi,

I've seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong
Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess





joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only
functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word
is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.

Joseph Lee ? 26/5/2016 12:41 ??:



Hi everyone,



Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of
grammar errors and more, there's something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the
official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what's new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The
direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3



Note that this might be last What's New tutorial (unless people say I should
continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph


Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

Hi,

Yep, the text version can be found at NVDA menu/Help/What’s new.

Cheers,

JOseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

Hi Joseph and all,

 

I appreciate the work that goes into an audio tutorial. I however prefer a text version of the whats new document.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

Hi,

I’ve seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.
 
Joseph Lee 26/5/2016 12:41 寫道:

Hi everyone,

 

Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3

 

Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph

 


Reddit

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Hi all,


Does anybody know about Reddit? What is it? Is there an app for it? How well does the web site work with NVDA?


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Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Joseph and all,

 

I appreciate the work that goes into an audio tutorial. I however prefer a text version of the whats new document.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

Hi,

I’ve seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.
 
Joseph Lee 26/5/2016 12:41 寫道:

Hi everyone,

 

Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3

 

Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph

 


Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Joseph and to nvda devs testers, and nvda advocate users,,

Kudos for the successful launching of this 2016.2 RC version for the nvda, it significantly been continuously developing and improved as we expected. Keep up the good work and making this tool as the prime time to helps blind and visual impaired community. Looking forward for the most exciting future releases. Again, thank you.


Robert Mendoza

On 5/27/2016 6:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Joseph,

I too want to thank you for the new release candidate of NVDA 2016.2. So-far it's working great for me. Keep up the good work on the tutorials.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Hi Joseph,
Thank you so much. I just installed the RC1 version of NVDA 2016.2. Please keep recording the tutorials. I love to listen to it before I begin using the new update. I have waited so long for more support in MS Office, especially word. Take care.
From: Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Hi,

I’ve seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess


joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.
Joseph Lee 於 26/5/2016 12:41 寫道:



Hi everyone,



Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3



Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph






Re: NVDA 2016.2 RC1

Arlene
 

Hi, if you have ask for updates checked. It will ask if you want to update!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: May-26-16 6:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 RC1

Hi,
What happens when the new version of NVDA 2016.2 comes out if we've
downloaded 20.16.2 RC1.
Chris


Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Joseph,

I too want to thank you for the new release candidate of NVDA 2016.2. So-far it's working great for me. Keep up the good work on the tutorials.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

Hi Joseph,
Thank you so much. I just installed the RC1 version of NVDA 2016.2. Please keep recording the tutorials. I love to listen to it before I begin using the new update. I have waited so long for more support in MS Office, especially word. Take care.


From: Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess


Hi,

I’ve seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess



joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.

Joseph Lee 於 26/5/2016 12:41 寫道:



Hi everyone,



Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3



Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph


Re: Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

Chris Mullins
 

Chrome maintains settings for a start-up page and a home page.  Access the settings from the Chrome menu by pressing alt followed by space followed by s.    On opening, the Settings tab has focus in a search edit box.   Ensure you are not in Forms/Focus mode and use the d key to move to the Landmark at the bottom of the page.  Here you will find a link to ‘Show Advanced Settings’, press enter on this to open up                     the whole settings page.  Press Control+Home to move to the top of the page, then use h and shift+h to explore the sections of the Chrome.Settings page. The sections where web page processing parameters are maintained are detailed below.     

 

‘On Start-up’ section

Please note this section is not used to set the HomePage.

This section is used to determine what pages are displayed When Chrome first starts up.

You have a choice of 3 radio buttons, which determine if either a new web page tab is displayed, the pages open when you last used Chrome are displayed or 1 or more specified web pages are displayed.  For the latter option, use the ‘Set Pages’ link to open a dialog in which the start-up URL’s can be typed into an edit box.  I find the easiest way to do this is to open up the required start-up pages in the browser then activate the ‘Use current pages’ button in this dialog.  This will populate the edit box with the URL’s for you.  Activate the OK button to save the settings and exit the dialog, or Cancel to exit without saving.    

 

‘Appearance’ section

The Appearance section is where the HomePage is defined.

Navigate to the ‘Show Home’ checkbox and check it.

Checking this box does 2 things.  Firstly, it makes a link available which opens a dialog for you to specify the URL of a HomePage and secondly, it puts a ‘Home’ icon in the Navigation bar at the top of the page. 

The default HomePage behaviour of Chrome is to display the same as you would see if you opened a new tab.  To specify a particular URL as your HomePage, tab to the ‘Change’ link and press enter. Activate the ‘open this page:’ radio button, then tab to the edit box and enter the desired URL of your new HomePage. Finally, activate the OK button to save the settings and exit the dialog, or Cancel to exit without saving.

Now you have a HomePage which will be loaded into the currently displayed web page tab whenever you activate the ‘Home’ button in the Navigation bar or use the keyboard shortcut alt+Home.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 26 May 2016 01:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

 

Hi

 

Out of curiosity have you set a home page for it to load first? I noticed when there was none, it would not focus properly on the content, but when the web page was set it seems to work ok.

I think it is set to a new tab when you first open google chrome.

 

If I remember right with tab browsing you use the CTRL key + the numbers from 1 to 9 depending on the pages that were opened. I like it better as normal web pages.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

On 26/05/2016 12:24 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

The problem is that I will, for example, open a new tab, or focus on address entry field, type in an address, and hit enter, and while window title tells me page has finished loading,tabbing around, using combinations of F6, shift+F6, etc. etc. don't ever focus on page's actual contents.

 

At times, however, focus will automatically have switched over to page contents, and, if I load a page from a bookmark, it also seems to do that pretty much every time.

 

Like said, biggest issue is inconsistency - as in, want to search for something, and would, honestly be quicker to just type in address for google.com rather than look for it in bookmarks, or else, I copy an address from an e-mail, or text file, and want to jut paste it into the address bar, but, then can't seem to get it to focus on the page contents.

 

This is on a windows 10 64 bit machine, using NVDA 2016.1, but, not sure either of those are relevant.

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: 26 May, 2016 2:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

 

I'm not sure what you are describing.  When I use Chrome, which I don't use for regular browsing, Often all I see is the title bar with the name of the web page.  I may be able to get the page to display by opening and then closing a new tab.  I may have to completely reload the page.  I'm not sure if that is the problem you are describing.  I don't know how many people have this problem.  But I do and it is one reason I wouldn't consider using Chrome as my main browser. 

 

Other reasons are how many things display as a web page.  It is far more convenient to have such things display as lists or dialogs.  Even Firefox, which has made things in the options dialog function like a web page, still has the items organized as lists you can arrow down. 

Also, it appears to me that lots of menu items don't have shortcuts as has been standard in Windows programs for years.  I haven't found a short cut combination for something as important as book marks.  And I've seen other menu items with no short cuts.  This sort of thing after all these years of Google working on making chrome accessible are singularly unimpressive.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

GeneFrom: Jacob Kruger

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 6:46 PM

Subject: [nvda] Moving over to/focusing on web-page contents after having loaded a page in google chrome

 

While in things like IE, and firefox, you could generally jump to/focus on actual webpage content using something like tab, or shift + tab keystrokes, or else ctrl + F6, it seems like chrome is somewhat inconsistent in that after I type a URL into it's address bar, at times, I can't too easily get NVDA to then actually switch over to interacting with the actual web page contents?

 

Is there some standard method/means to get this to happen that I'm missing, due to being too used to other browsers?

 

Ask since am sort of considering switching over to chrome as my primary web-browser, but, if this inconsistency carries on, then it's a no-go, since it's quite irritating...LOL!

 

TIA


Jacob Kruger
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Skype: BlindZA
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Re: NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

 

Hi,
Regarding spacing announcement: this is under active development at the moment, and if it works, you'll see it included in 2016.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

Hi,
In MS Office 2010, does NVDA report the spacing of the document? That is the biggest problem I had with formatting announcing. I definite want to know if the document is double spaced, single spaced and so on. Also, when you press
NVDA+F twice, can you just press CTRL+Home and start reading from the top?
Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

Hi, I've been playing with this for some time now,and my comments are.
First sometimes it does not read all the formatting info, ie it misses out the bits at the start. However cursoring up seems logical, as its just read the lines so the cursor would logically be below the text not back at the top. However that seems to be dependent on the program, some, for example Dspeech when reading text or making an audio file position the cursor back at the tiop, but this is presumably a simple list and its read, hopefully from the start each time, but several times the font detail is missing unless I cursor up, as if it was overwritten by the second speaking of the word formatting.
I'm using windows 7 a very old copy of Word, which seems to be unsure if its word XP or 2003 most of the time. :-)

I like the feature as its a good snapshot of where you are and more easy to understand than the one we normally toggle on and off.
Brian

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From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog


Dear all,
I acknowledge this to be a potentially subjective opinion and
consequently request, but initiating a discussion about the same all
the same, in order to gather more user feedback about this feature.
In NVDA version 2016.2 RC 1, you can now press NVDA + F twice in quick
succession to be presented formatting information for the
corresponding text in the form of a navigable dialog.
The two concerns I have here, which are quite trivial, but still
somewhat necessaryare as follows:
When NVDA + F is pressed twice in quick succession -
* NVDA reads all the text of that dialog, i.e. the formatting
information, and then when the user navigates the dialog, he finds
himself at the end of the dialog, and has to up arrow instead of the
usual down arrowing to explore information.
* NVDA says 'formatting' twice, with a pause, which may result in a
momentary delay, as opposed to saying it only once to announce the
opening of the dialog.
Note: I am testing this with Microsoft Office Word 2010, and this, and
my previous observation, both are based on a Windows 8.1 system.
In case these issues are considered more or less important by other
testers than me, and if it is easy enough for developers to speedily
implement and fix, I (or others) may file a ticket for the same.
Thanks.

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Re: Braille Edge - urgent help needed!

 

Hi,
I'd say both NV Access and HIMS are to blame. Ideally a braille display driver should come from the manufacturer unless they give NV Access and contributors permission to look at the protocol in use (the latter is the case for certain displays). You might want to contact HIMS to see what can be done about this.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. For a while, I've been looking for a talented code developer and a HIMS product user to come onboard and complete the HIMS braille display drivers.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of MARTIN KNOPF
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Braille Edge - urgent help needed!

Hello,

I’ve got Windows 10 here, the 64 bit version, I downloaded the USB driver from HIMS website (the driver is from 2013) and I can’t get the Braille Edge to work properly - neither via BlueTooth nor via USB. The Bluetooth does not need any extra software but the problem I’m having is exactly the same as on USB. The Braille Edge is recognised, but it only displays what’s currently in focus. There is no way to navigate using the navigation keys on the device. In fact, no key whatsoever does work, not even the routing keys.

So who’s fault is it: Windows 10, NVDA or HIMS?

Any help with this would be much appreciated.


Many thanks
Martin


Re: Braille Edge - urgent help needed!

 

Hi Martin,
I wish I could help you, but I have the same problem. It used to work,
but I recently upgraded to Windows 10 and the Braille Edge ceased to
act as a terminal. It works with JAWS, though.
Nevzat

On 5/26/16, MARTIN KNOPF <martin@knopf.co.uk> wrote:
Hello,

I’ve got Windows 10 here, the 64 bit version, I downloaded the USB driver
from HIMS website (the driver is from 2013) and I can’t get the Braille Edge
to work properly - neither via BlueTooth nor via USB. The Bluetooth does not
need any extra software but the problem I’m having is exactly the same as on
USB. The Braille Edge is recognised, but it only displays what’s currently
in focus. There is no way to navigate using the navigation keys on the
device. In fact, no key whatsoever does work, not even the routing keys.

So who’s fault is it: Windows 10, NVDA or HIMS?

Any help with this would be much appreciated.


Many thanks
Martin



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Re: looking for pls or m3u file of a radio station stream

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

   Hi!

I didn't understand if it's a program for listening of radio, is it a player or program for making radioStreams? Of course there is in the webSite an explanations but would you like also to explain it? Thanks!
   regards
Georgi
На 25.5.2016 г. в 23:12 ч., Gene New Zealand написа:

Hi


I am not sure what formats the following program plays, but it will play radio stations etc from all over the world plus more.

The link to this program is SpeakOn MediaSuite and can be found at http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


Gene nz

On 26/05/2016 5:05 AM, Bobby wrote:
I am having issues locating pls files or m3us.  I listen to lots of internet radio stations butt I don't like going to the web sites all of the time.  I was if you know of a good progran that will capture a pls or m3u because finding the listen live link can be very hard.  If you know of a program please let me know.





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Braille Edge - urgent help needed!

MARTIN KNOPF <martin@...>
 

Hello,

I’ve got Windows 10 here, the 64 bit version, I downloaded the USB driver from HIMS website (the driver is from 2013) and I can’t get the Braille Edge to work properly - neither via BlueTooth nor via USB. The Bluetooth does not need any extra software but the problem I’m having is exactly the same as on USB. The Braille Edge is recognised, but it only displays what’s currently in focus. There is no way to navigate using the navigation keys on the device. In fact, no key whatsoever does work, not even the routing keys.

So who’s fault is it: Windows 10, NVDA or HIMS?

Any help with this would be much appreciated.


Many thanks
Martin


Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

David Moore
 

Hi Joseph,
Thank you so much. I just installed the RC1 version of NVDA 2016.2. Please keep recording the tutorials. I love to listen to it before I begin using the new update. I have waited so long for more support in MS Office, especially word. Take care.
 
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess
 

Hi,

I’ve seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office word is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.
 
Joseph Lee 26/5/2016 12:41 寫道:

Hi everyone,

 

Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition of grammar errors and more, there’s something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what’s new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted. The direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3

 

Note that this might be last What’s New tutorial (unless people say I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph

 


Re: NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

David Moore
 

Hi,
In MS Office 2010, does NVDA report the spacing of the document? That is the biggest problem I had with formatting announcing. I definite want to know if the document is double spaced, single spaced and so on. Also, when you press NVDA+F twice, can you just press CTRL+Home and start reading from the top? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

Hi, I've been playing with this for some time now,and my comments are.
First sometimes it does not read all the formatting info, ie it misses out
the bits at the start. However cursoring up seems logical, as its just read
the lines so the cursor would logically be below the text not back at the
top. However that seems to be dependent on the program, some, for example
Dspeech when reading text or making an audio file position the cursor back
at the tiop, but this is presumably a simple list and its read, hopefully
from the start each time, but several times the font detail is missing
unless I cursor up, as if it was overwritten by the second speaking of the
word formatting.
I'm using windows 7 a very old copy of Word, which seems to be unsure if
its word XP or 2003 most of the time. :-)

I like the feature as its a good snapshot of where you are and more easy to
understand than the one we normally toggle on and off.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog


Dear all,
I acknowledge this to be a potentially subjective opinion and
consequently request, but initiating a discussion about the same all
the same, in order to gather more user feedback about this feature.
In NVDA version 2016.2 RC 1, you can now press NVDA + F twice in quick
succession to be presented formatting information for the
corresponding text in the form of a navigable dialog.
The two concerns I have here, which are quite trivial, but still
somewhat necessaryare as follows:
When NVDA + F is pressed twice in quick succession -
* NVDA reads all the text of that dialog, i.e. the formatting
information, and then when the user navigates the dialog, he finds
himself at the end of the dialog, and has to up arrow instead of the
usual down arrowing to explore information.
* NVDA says 'formatting' twice, with a pause, which may result in a
momentary delay, as opposed to saying it only once to announce the
opening of the dialog.
Note: I am testing this with Microsoft Office Word 2010, and this, and
my previous observation, both are based on a Windows 8.1 system.
In case these issues are considered more or less important by other
testers than me, and if it is easy enough for developers to speedily
implement and fix, I (or others) may file a ticket for the same.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
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reader for Microsoft Windows
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http://www.nvaccess.org/
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Re: NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog

Andre Fisher
 

you can still use Control+Home, End, etc.

On 5/26/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi, I've been playing with this for some time now,and my comments are.
First sometimes it does not read all the formatting info, ie it misses out

the bits at the start. However cursoring up seems logical, as its just read

the lines so the cursor would logically be below the text not back at the
top. However that seems to be dependent on the program, some, for example
Dspeech when reading text or making an audio file position the cursor back
at the tiop, but this is presumably a simple list and its read, hopefully
from the start each time, but several times the font detail is missing
unless I cursor up, as if it was overwritten by the second speaking of the
word formatting.
I'm using windows 7 a very old copy of Word, which seems to be unsure if
its word XP or 2003 most of the time. :-)

I like the feature as its a good snapshot of where you are and more easy to

understand than the one we normally toggle on and off.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 6:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2: Thoughts on Formatting information dialog


Dear all,
I acknowledge this to be a potentially subjective opinion and
consequently request, but initiating a discussion about the same all
the same, in order to gather more user feedback about this feature.
In NVDA version 2016.2 RC 1, you can now press NVDA + F twice in quick
succession to be presented formatting information for the
corresponding text in the form of a navigable dialog.
The two concerns I have here, which are quite trivial, but still
somewhat necessaryare as follows:
When NVDA + F is pressed twice in quick succession -
* NVDA reads all the text of that dialog, i.e. the formatting
information, and then when the user navigates the dialog, he finds
himself at the end of the dialog, and has to up arrow instead of the
usual down arrowing to explore information.
* NVDA says 'formatting' twice, with a pause, which may result in a
momentary delay, as opposed to saying it only once to announce the
opening of the dialog.
Note: I am testing this with Microsoft Office Word 2010, and this, and
my previous observation, both are based on a Windows 8.1 system.
In case these issues are considered more or less important by other
testers than me, and if it is easy enough for developers to speedily
implement and fix, I (or others) may file a ticket for the same.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09






Re: NVDA 2016.2 RC1

 

Chris,

         An "install over" install is done simply by activating the installer that you've just downloaded.  Most programs these days will check whether there is an existing installation in place when you run the installer and then either remove the existing installation as part of the process or apply the necessary updates to the existing install to get to the latest release.

         The NVDA installer appears to take the latter of the two approaches for the upgrades I've done so far.  I'm sure if there comes a time where an existing installation cannot be updated that the NVDA installer for that release will simply uninstall what's already there and continue with a full install of NVDA.  Again, since NVDA add-ons are not, technically, a part of NVDA itself they sit in their own little world off to the side and NVDA looks to see if that "own little world" exists and, if it does, it uses the add-ons that exist there.

Brian
-- 

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Re: NVDA 2016.2 RC1

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Brian,
Thanks for the info. One last question.
How do you do an install over an install?
Chris


Re: NVDA 2016.2 RC1

 

I forgot to confirm that what mk360 says is also indeed the case.  If an earlier version of NVDA is on your system when you run the install program it detects that and does an update process instead.

Also, I just installed 2016.2.RC1 and, as I'd recalled and mentioned, the add-ons I added way back when are still there and still active after the upgrade install.

Brian
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Re: NVDA 2016.2 RC1

 

Chris,

           When 2016.RC1 became 2016.1 official all I did was an "install over" install even though, in that case RC1 became the official release, so there were no differences.

            NVDA Add-Ons are installed under your own Windows user's Appdata\Roaming\nvda\addons folder, which is unaffected by installing updated versions of NVDA.  The NVDA Addons Manager places add-ons there and if any later installed version sees something there the Add-Ons remain available.  I installed NoBeepsSpeechMode back during the 2015 releases and have never had to reinstall it.

Brian
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Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts. 
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