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Re: accessible sms texting from windows with NVDA

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The problem is, I need to do it in Europe.
Brian

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From: "Hope Williamson via Groups.Io" <isepic=lavabit.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible sms texting from windows with NVDA


Hi, I'm pretty sure you can use email to do this if you get the
carrier's address right. Here's a link on how to do this.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-send-a-text-from-your-email-account/
Basically, you open up your email client and put the number you're
sending to in followed by the carriers SMS gateway address.


On 8/30/2018 6:33 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi,


I have been looking into doing this. However, there are so many
choices I am uncertain which to choose.


Has anyone else figured out any of the apps and services that are
accessible using NVDA to do SMS texting from a Windows system? If so
which are accessible and easy to use?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

Re: NVDA recent snapshots not reading message status in Outlook

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It should not be anything to do with this at all. There have been a lot of changes to try to cope with the many versions of outlook and updates so I would suggest raising it as an issue..I do not use outlook myself, but I would have thought if it was a general issue lots of others will have it too, As a matter of interest I assume the stable version still works as expected does it?
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From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA recent snapshots not reading message status in Outlook


Hello all


I have noticed that the NVDA snapshots of the past two months or so no longer read message statuses in Outlook. This is true of Outlook 2013, Outlook 2016 and Outlook in Office 365. Could this be an unpleasant side-effect of the migration to WXPython 4? Can we look forward to this being fixed in the not too distant future. It really was such a helpful feature when NVDA used to announce message statuses.


Kind regards


Christo



Re: looking for tutorial on Dictation Bridge

Pranav Lal
 

Dan,

NVDA has a comprehensive manual. Moreover, with dictationBridge active, you
can enable help with nvda key + f1 and then speak a command. That should
give you help.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for tutorial on Dictation Bridge

Thank you very much for helping. I do have drageon 12 so will try dictation
bridge with. I was hopping for some list of hotkeys that work with nvda
like that of jaws. Of course jaws is much more than I can afford. So I am
hoping I can do the same thing with nvda.
Thanks a bunch.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for tutorial on Dictation Bridge

Hi Dan,

There are no paid tutorials for dictationBridge but thanks for the thought.
The place to go for dictationBridge documentation is:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationbridge-docs/blob/master/dictatio
nBridge.md

There is really nothing you need to do with dictationBridge. If you need
echo back, you install the add-on and wen you launch Dragon or windows
speech-recognition, you will get echo back. If however, you want to write
commands to control a program via speech, then you will have to look at the
documentation of your speech recognition engine of choice.

Pranav

Re: accessible sms texting from windows with NVDA

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

Hi, I'm pretty sure you can use email to do this if you get the carrier's address right. Here's a link on how to do this. https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-send-a-text-from-your-email-account/ Basically, you open up your email client and put the number you're sending to in followed by the carriers SMS gateway address.


On 8/30/2018 6:33 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi,


I have been looking into doing this.  However, there are so many choices I am uncertain which to choose.


Has anyone else figured out any of the apps and services that are accessible using NVDA to do SMS texting from a  Windows system?  If so which are accessible and easy to use?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver



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accessible sms texting from windows with NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I have been looking into doing this.  However, there are so many choices I am uncertain which to choose.


Has anyone else figured out any of the apps and services that are accessible using NVDA to do SMS texting from a  Windows system?  If so which are accessible and easy to use?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

Re: are this bugs?

mattias
 

I allways forgoot you can see the paths in th elog

 

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I'm assuming you are talking about Josephs add on here. A clue as to what

you are trying to do might not go amiss.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:55 PM

Subject: [nvda] are this bugs?

 

 

I run nvda alphas

 

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:52:34.987):

error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at

0x054F5C90> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File

"C:\Users\mj\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py",

line 231, in event_gainFocus

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 961, in event_gainFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 849, in reportFocus

  File "speech.pyc", line 383, in speakObject

  File "speech.pyc", line 275, in speakObjectProperties

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1243, in _get_columnNumber

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 714, in

_getUIACacheablePropertyValue

COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:52:35.767):

error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at

0x054F5C90> with extra args of {'ch': u'\t'}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 908, in event_typedCharacter

  File "speech.pyc", line 661, in speakTypedCharacters

  File "api.pyc", line 248, in isTypingProtected

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 782, in _get_isProtected

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1067, in _get_states

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 734, in

_prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs

COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:52:36.467):

error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at

0x054F5C90> with extra args of {'ch': u'\t'}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 908, in event_typedCharacter

  File "speech.pyc", line 661, in speakTypedCharacters

  File "api.pyc", line 248, in isTypingProtected

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 782, in _get_isProtected

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1067, in _get_states

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 734, in

_prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs

COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:53:07.069):

error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.UIA.Toast_win10 object at

0x05699650> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File

"C:\Users\mj\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py",

line 231, in event_gainFocus

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 961, in event_gainFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 849, in reportFocus

  File "speech.pyc", line 383, in speakObject

  File "speech.pyc", line 275, in speakObjectProperties

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1243, in _get_columnNumber

  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 714, in

_getUIACacheablePropertyValue

COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))

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NVDA recent snapshots not reading message status in Outlook

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello all


I have noticed that the NVDA snapshots of the past two months or so no longer read message statuses in Outlook. This is true of Outlook 2013, Outlook 2016 and Outlook in Office 365. Could this be an unpleasant side-effect of the migration to WXPython 4? Can we look forward to this being fixed in the not too distant future. It really was such a helpful feature when NVDA used to announce message statuses.


Kind regards


Christo

Re: Nvda and thunderbird 60

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Remember if you raise an issue for nvda about his problem Jamie will probably see it at Mozilla as he is always watching nvda and might be able to advise what is going on at the Mozilla side as well. He is unlikely to see this discussion on this list.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <@WilliamWai>
To: "NVDA Groups.io mailing list email" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 12:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and thunderbird 60


Hi, I am using NVDA latest version and Thunderbird 60.
Now, when I am composing new email and if I have attached files to the email, if I tap after the subject field to read the attachments, NVDA didn't read the file names.
I am not sure if this is a NVDA bug or thunderbird bug.
William




Re: Nvda and thunderbird 60

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Sounds like you need to raise an issue, its probably a simple fix.
Brian

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From: "Kostadin Kolev" <@k_kolev1985>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and thunderbird 60


Hello,

Yes, you're right - the list of attachments seams to be broken or changed in Thunderbird 60 and NVDA does not read it. And yes, I can see the attachments in the list and pressing up/down arrow moves the focus between the items, but NVDA stays silent.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 30.8.2018 г. в 6:15, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William написа:

Of course I knew that.


John Isige 於 30/8/2018 8:03 寫道:

I've always had to tab a couple of times to get back to the message, then shift-tab gets you back to the attachments field and I think it will read them. I don't attach a lot of files so I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that's how it behaved last time and for quite a while before that n fact.


On 8/29/2018 18:53, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William wrote:

Hi, I am using NVDA latest version and Thunderbird 60.
Now, when I am composing new email and if I have attached files to the email, if I tap after the subject field to read the attachments, NVDA didn't read the file names.
I am not sure if this is a NVDA bug or thunderbird bug.
William

















Re: Beta 3 and Google Chrome

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That looks like its trying to use Mozilla code in Chrome to me.
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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Beta 3 and Google Chrome


Running NVDA beta 3 on a Win 10 64 bit laptop.

NVDA log has numerous errors logged with what appears issues using Google Chrome.

ERROR - RPC process 128040 (chrome.exe) (10:54:32.957):
Thread 127572, build\x86_64\vbufBase\backend.cpp, VBufBackend_t::initialize, 43:
Could not execute renderThread_initialize in UI thread

ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (15:42:27.104):
error executing script: <bound method ChromeVBuf.script_activatePosition of <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x057181F0>> with gesture u'enter'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 187, in executeScript
File "browseMode.pyo", line 468, in script_activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 1189, in _activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 459, in _activatePosition
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyo", line 119, in _set_passThrough
File "review.pyo", line 124, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyo", line 26, in getObjectPosition
File "documentBase.pyo", line 24, in makeTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 93, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 201, in _findContentDescendant
COMError: (-2147417842, 'The application called an interface that was marshalled for a different thread.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (15:42:37.388):
error executing script: <bound method ChromeVBuf.script_activatePosition of <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x055F8CF0>> with gesture u'enter'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 187, in executeScript
File "browseMode.pyo", line 468, in script_activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 1189, in _activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 459, in _activatePosition
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyo", line 119, in _set_passThrough
File "review.pyo", line 124, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyo", line 26, in getObjectPosition
File "documentBase.pyo", line 24, in makeTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 93, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 201, in _findContentDescendant
COMError: (-2147417842, 'The application called an interface that was marshalled for a different thread.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (17:43:31.026):
error executing script: <bound method ChromeVBuf.script_activatePosition of <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x055F8FF0>> with gesture u'enter'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 187, in executeScript
File "browseMode.pyo", line 468, in script_activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 1189, in _activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 459, in _activatePosition
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyo", line 119, in _set_passThrough
File "review.pyo", line 124, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyo", line 26, in getObjectPosition
File "documentBase.pyo", line 24, in makeTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 93, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 201, in _findContentDescendant
COMError: (-2147417842, 'The application called an interface that was marshalled for a different thread.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (17:43:59.138):
error executing script: <bound method ChromeVBuf.script_activatePosition of <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x05718770>> with gesture u'numpad enter'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 187, in executeScript
File "browseMode.pyo", line 468, in script_activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 1189, in _activatePosition
File "browseMode.pyo", line 459, in _activatePosition
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyo", line 119, in _set_passThrough
File "review.pyo", line 124, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyo", line 26, in getObjectPosition
File "documentBase.pyo", line 24, in makeTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 93, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyo", line 201, in _findContentDescendant
COMError: (-2147417842, 'The application called an interface that was marshalled for a different thread.', (None, None, None, 0, None))



Re: are this bugs?

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I'm assuming you are talking about Josephs add on here. A clue as to what you are trying to do might not go amiss.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "mattias" <mjonsson1986@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 9:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] are this bugs?


I run nvda alphas

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:52:34.987):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x054F5C90> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next
File "C:\Users\mj\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py", line 231, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 961, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 849, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyc", line 383, in speakObject
File "speech.pyc", line 275, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1243, in _get_columnNumber
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 714, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue
COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:52:35.767):
error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x054F5C90> with extra args of {'ch': u'\t'}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 908, in event_typedCharacter
File "speech.pyc", line 661, in speakTypedCharacters
File "api.pyc", line 248, in isTypingProtected
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 782, in _get_isProtected
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1067, in _get_states
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 734, in _prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs
COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:52:36.467):
error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.UIA.UIA object at 0x054F5C90> with extra args of {'ch': u'\t'}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 908, in event_typedCharacter
File "speech.pyc", line 661, in speakTypedCharacters
File "api.pyc", line 248, in isTypingProtected
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 782, in _get_isProtected
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1067, in _get_states
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 734, in _prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs
COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (22:53:07.069):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.UIA.Toast_win10 object at 0x05699650> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 152, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next
File "C:\Users\mj\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py", line 231, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 961, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 849, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyc", line 383, in speakObject
File "speech.pyc", line 275, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 1243, in _get_columnNumber
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 714, in _getUIACacheablePropertyValue
COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
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Re: Nvda and thunderbird 60

 

Hello,

Yes, you're right - the list of attachments seams to be broken or changed in Thunderbird 60 and NVDA does not read it. And yes, I can see the attachments in the list and pressing up/down arrow moves the focus between the items, but NVDA stays silent.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 30.8.2018 г. в 6:15, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William написа:

Of course I knew that.


John Isige 於 30/8/2018 8:03 寫道:
I've always had to tab a couple of times to get back to the message, then shift-tab gets you back to the attachments field and I think it will read them. I don't attach a lot of files so I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that's how it behaved last time and for quite a while before that n fact.


On 8/29/2018 18:53, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA latest version and Thunderbird 60.
Now, when I am composing new email and if I have attached files to the email, if I tap after the subject field to read the attachments, NVDA didn't read the file names.
I am not sure if this is a NVDA bug or thunderbird bug.
William














Re: Microsoft Word 2016 stop working.

Daniele Casarola
 

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 06:38 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
You may have sent this before but do you have any logs from the crash?
Yes,
in the previous post I've linked log files aftger the crash.

Do you mean another log file? In case tell me where can I take it.

Thanks.
Daniele.

Re: Nvda and thunderbird 60

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Of course I knew that.


John Isige 於 30/8/2018 8:03 寫道:

I've always had to tab a couple of times to get back to the message, then shift-tab gets you back to the attachments field and I think it will read them. I don't attach a lot of files so I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that's how it behaved last time and for quite a while before that n fact.


On 8/29/2018 18:53, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA latest version and Thunderbird 60.
Now, when I am composing new email and if I have attached files to the email, if I tap after the subject field to read the attachments, NVDA didn't read the file names.
I am not sure if this is a NVDA bug or thunderbird bug.
William






Re: looking for tutorial on Dictation Bridge

Dan Thompson
 

Thank you very much for helping. I do have drageon 12 so will try dictation
bridge with. I was hopping for some list of hotkeys that work with nvda
like that of jaws. Of course jaws is much more than I can afford. So I am
hoping I can do the same thing with nvda.
Thanks a bunch.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for tutorial on Dictation Bridge

Hi Dan,

There are no paid tutorials for dictationBridge but thanks for the thought.
The place to go for dictationBridge documentation is:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationbridge-docs/blob/master/dictatio
nBridge.md

There is really nothing you need to do with dictationBridge. If you need
echo back, you install the add-on and wen you launch Dragon or windows
speech-recognition, you will get echo back. If however, you want to write
commands to control a program via speech, then you will have to look at the
documentation of your speech recognition engine of choice.

Pranav

Re: problem with windows10 OCR

Mohamed
 

No. They use an offline OCR engine provided by Microsoft.

On 8/29/2018 2:38 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I'm pretty certain ocr keypresses in nvda on windows 10 use cloud ocr, but have never had the need to test it on  anyones machine.

I think Jaws uses omnipage.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with windows10 OCR


you cannot do my knowledge do this. you would need something  like cloud
ocr  to do this by the way tha thas not ben updated in a number of years
 so good luck using  it.

On 29 Aug 2018, at 9:57, Josh Kennedy wrote:

Hi,

Since I plan on getting a new computer for playing some games, and I
will probably need windows10 OCR to scan and click on stuff in the
game menus, I tried an experiment. I went to the desktop went up to
desktop window with object navigation, and did capslock r. the desktop
was recognized and placed in the results viewer. I went down to mail,
I hit space, nothing happened, route mouse to navigator object folloed
by left click, nothing, tried enter, nothing, space, and enter two
times, still mail did not activate, NVDA did not click it. So I
unloaded NVDA and started the latest jaws2018. Jaws old legacy MSAA
drivers are turned off for windows10. So I told jaws to OCR the
screen, it did.  It turned on the jaws cursor, I moved to windows10
mail, and did a left mouse click twice quickly. And mail activated and
loaded up. So what is wrong with NvDA OCR? Why won’t it activate
mail while jaws will in fact activate mail? Will I have to use jaws to
get at the menus of games such as madden nfl 19 and successfully click
the options and then unload jaws to play? Is this a NVDA OCR bug, or
is there a more accurate OCR NVDA addon? In any case I am glad I have
two screen readers on here, in case one does not work, the other
probably will.

Josh


Sent from Mail for Windows 10







Re: looking for tutorial on Dictation Bridge

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Dan,

There are no paid tutorials for dictationBridge but thanks for the thought.
The place to go for dictationBridge documentation is:
https://github.com/dictationbridge/dictationbridge-docs/blob/master/dictatio
nBridge.md

There is really nothing you need to do with dictationBridge. If you need
echo back, you install the add-on and wen you launch Dragon or windows
speech-recognition, you will get echo back. If however, you want to write
commands to control a program via speech, then you will have to look at the
documentation of your speech recognition engine of choice.

Pranav

Re: strange stuff happening with the latest version of NVDA and Windows 1803

Pranav Lal
 

Hi George,

Ok, have you checked the task bar settings in the settings applet? I have the task bar to hide automatically in desktop and tablet mode. IN addition, I have told widows 10 to never combine task bar buttons.

Pranab

Re: reading mail in outlook 365

Annette Moore
 

Glenn, I like your suggestion. Well, you weren't suggesting it, but that works very well anyway! gonna do that more often--read by paragraph. I just never think to do that

Annette


On 8/29/2018 9:29 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I like to read by paragraph, with my thumb on the right control key and down arrowing.

Glenn

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading mail in outlook 365

 

Since this is the second email in a row to ask a similar question, I'm curious, why do people read pieces of text that may be long, using the arrow keys rather than Say All (NVDA+down arrow or NVDA+a depending on your setup)?

 

Note that I'm not saying you SHOULD do it one way or the other, just wanting a better understanding of why people do things the way they do.  For me, I use Say All with a finger ready on SHIFT to pause speech as needed.

 

You can force Outlook to open emails as plain text rather than HTML (File menu, options, Trust centre, Email security, read all standard email in plain text), however, that displays links to external images as links and reads out the full link of each, rather than the HTML view which simply denotes "graphic".

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:

I decided to try my hand with Outlook 365. I liked it, overall. However, emails with NVDA and Outlook 365 didn't read as well as they do with Thunderbird and NVDA. For example, it appears that using arrow keys in some emails in Outlook 365 is not a great solution. All you see is blank lines and graphics, whereas you see links and a fairly compact view in Thunderbird. The tab key doesn't change this in any way, shape or form.


Has anyone else seen this, and if you have, does anyone have a solution? For me, using Outlook 365 won't work unless I can get around these issues. I'm using the latest version of NVDA alpha. Any help with this one is much appreciated, and thanks in advance.





 

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Re: Nvda and thunderbird 60

John Isige
 

I've always had to tab a couple of times to get back to the message, then shift-tab gets you back to the attachments field and I think it will read them. I don't attach a lot of files so I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that's how it behaved last time and for quite a while before that n fact.

On 8/29/2018 18:53, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA latest version and Thunderbird 60.
Now, when I am composing new email and if I have attached files to the email, if I tap after the subject field to read the attachments, NVDA didn't read the file names.
I am not sure if this is a NVDA bug or thunderbird bug.
William