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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Bash them somewhere else. If you want to
discuss a problem reasonably, even if you want to express anger when reasonable,
that's fine. But you have no right, just based on your experience to bash
a company and say they should be shut down and say its disgraceful when you
don't even know the extent of the problem and if the company has been
notified. Bash all you like in a completely unjust and irresponsible
manner somewhere else. As moderator, I will not allow it here.
Reasonable discussion, fine. Bashing and disparaging with no justification
just because you, yourself have a problem and you know nothing about others'
experiences nor if the company even knows of the problem is something else
again. Of course I want sites to be accessible. But you don't cast
unjustified aspersions and disparagement in a responsible attempt at
resolution.
If it turns out to be a site problem, and we don't
know yet, I have no objection to you contacting the site in a civil manner and
reporting the problem. If you get an unsatisfactory response, we'd be glad
to know. If you can't do so civilly and responsibly, then let someone else
do it. You don't advance your cause by antagonizing someone before you
even know how they will respond or what they know in the first
place.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I told the truth and I will alwaysspeak the truth even if
you don't want to hear it. The fact is that it does not work and never has
worked with either fire fox or ie or webie and any version of nvda. It's
time more people said what I said on the other list we should not have to put up
with inacessable web sites. If you are happy with the way sites are thats your
choice but some of us are not and we have every right to bash any company who
does not fix the problem and make their site accessable for every one.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 10:19 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't bash you. I responded strongly to
your disparagement of the company and saying how horrible and disgraceful that
the site is not accessible. You said they should be shut down. You
had no facts. All you knew was that the site didn't work in your
browser. You didn't know if it was a general problem or a problem that
effects only or mostly you. You didn't know if the problem is
experienced with only NVDA or with other screen-readers. You didn't know
if it was experienced on one browser or in general.
I consider it very inappropriate to attack a
site, and even more so, the site of a small business owned by blind people
when all you know is that it doesn't work in your browser combined with your
screen-reader.
You bashed the company and I sent a
very strongly critical message. I don't
know what your definition is of bashing but when you bashed the company, I
responded strongly and I didn't mince words. I said nothing objecting to
people discussing problems. Of course people should discuss
problems if they wish. I have no objection to you discussing it. I
do object to you bashing and making accusations and saying they
should be shut down. You have no facts to justify making such
statements.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of
got bashed I guess that some people feel that we should not express our
problems when they should know better there is just no excuse for this problem
to occure especially on a blindness site they should be ashamed of themselves.
Their site should be accessable for all screen readers and all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
I
agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for use with screen
readers. That's a disgrace!
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if
you can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not
accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when you tab
from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is
usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has
microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on
that site. I wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this
problem and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do
you hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I
don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know
why you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older
version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at
it years ago and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda]
problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up
for an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is
edit has auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When
I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit
box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on
for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign
up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you
don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes
the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of
nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I didn't say you didn't relate your
experience. That is true only as your experience. You don't know
what other people will report or experience. You don't know if there is
some odd problem with your computer that causes this interaction. I'm
discussing how to get the truth, not just what you experience, but the general
truth about whether this is a general problem or almost exclusively your
problem. We have very little information yet. I'm telling you how
you research and trouble shoot a problem like this.
I'm interested in the truth, not
just your experience. Why do you think programs are beta tested by a large
number of users? Because some people have problems and others don't and it
isn't always known why. You can't assume that your experience in a problem
like this is the general one, and that's the truth. Again, I didn't
say once that you don't have problems with the site. But drawing any
general conclusions with almost no information about others' experiences is
completely unjustified and improper procedure.
It would also be useful if those
reporting a problem tell us what version of Windows they are using. We are
looking for patterns and if there are certain factors that are associated with
the problem.
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Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I told the truth and I will alwaysspeak the truth even if
you don't want to hear it. The fact is that it does not work and never has
worked with either fire fox or ie or webie and any version of nvda. It's
time more people said what I said on the other list we should not have to put up
with inacessable web sites. If you are happy with the way sites are thats your
choice but some of us are not and we have every right to bash any company who
does not fix the problem and make their site accessable for every one.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 10:19 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't bash you. I responded strongly to
your disparagement of the company and saying how horrible and disgraceful that
the site is not accessible. You said they should be shut down. You
had no facts. All you knew was that the site didn't work in your
browser. You didn't know if it was a general problem or a problem that
effects only or mostly you. You didn't know if the problem is
experienced with only NVDA or with other screen-readers. You didn't know
if it was experienced on one browser or in general.
I consider it very inappropriate to attack a
site, and even more so, the site of a small business owned by blind people
when all you know is that it doesn't work in your browser combined with your
screen-reader.
You bashed the company and I sent a
very strongly critical message. I don't
know what your definition is of bashing but when you bashed the company, I
responded strongly and I didn't mince words. I said nothing objecting to
people discussing problems. Of course people should discuss
problems if they wish. I have no objection to you discussing it. I
do object to you bashing and making accusations and saying they
should be shut down. You have no facts to justify making such
statements.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of
got bashed I guess that some people feel that we should not express our
problems when they should know better there is just no excuse for this problem
to occure especially on a blindness site they should be ashamed of themselves.
Their site should be accessable for all screen readers and all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
I
agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for use with screen
readers. That's a disgrace!
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if
you can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not
accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when you tab
from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is
usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has
microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on
that site. I wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this
problem and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do
you hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I
don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know
why you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older
version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at
it years ago and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda]
problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up
for an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is
edit has auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When
I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit
box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on
for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign
up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you
don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes
the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of
nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Somebody made the point that if you use the arrow keys and then enter into the form field, you can tell what the labels are. That is true. It is also kind of a pain in the butt, because there can be lots of forms and all that moving in and out of forms mode is in official denigrate waste of time. I did try this site using edge with NVDA with the same results that others have reported. Tabbing from field to field is useless. The labels are not read. This is with the latest stable release of NVDA. Same results with Firefox. Using my iPhone, it works fine, but that is because using the touchscreen, you see the label before you actually enter into the edit field. Fields are labeled. But for whatever reason, NVDA with the browsers isn’t seeing them. I have had this problem with enough other sites where the companies have a bunch of money we’re NVDA also doesn’t see those labels. I have no idea why, since I do not understand HTML. Mary
On Aug 30, 2018, at 7:29 PM, Gene < gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know if you are serious. I hope
not. Let's see what other people say. Let's see if this is just an
NVDA problem or if other screen-readers have the problem. Let's see if it
is some oddity in your computer. We simply don't know.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
somone who can fill out the contact form can contact them
as I said I have always had this problem so that means for several versions of
nvda so maybe we need an add on to read edit boxes when you tab from edit box to
edit box so you can hear what you need to put in to the edit boxes.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 10:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Please stop rushing to condemnation. You
have no grounds to not purchase from the site. You don't know if this is
a problem just with new versions of NVDA. I looked at the site a number
of years ago and I didn't use Chrome. It worked properly. Please
get the facts about these kinds of situations before rushing to
judgment. If this is an NVDA problem, it is not a Mice Mart
problem. If it only happends in current or very recent versions of NVDA,
then something has very likely changed in NVDA. Once we determine if the
problem is very likely an NVDA or a site problem, we don't know if the site
has been contacted and how they have responded. If it is there proboem,
do they know about it? You have no facts.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave
recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I
wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what
it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why
you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of
NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago
and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August
30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem
with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up for
an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has
auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried the
same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit box is
edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still
the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have
not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every edit box on
the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters.
you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is
required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or
not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows
10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
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|
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
Gene I am always serious because I am a very serious person.
Brian Sackrider
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On 8/30/2018 10:29 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if you are serious.
I hope not. Let's see what other people say. Let's see if
this is just an NVDA problem or if other screen-readers have
the problem. Let's see if it is some oddity in your
computer. We simply don't know.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice
mart site and nvda
somone who can fill out the contact form can contact them
as I said I have always had this problem so that means for
several versions of nvda so maybe we need an add on to read edit
boxes when you tab from edit box to edit box so you can hear
what you need to put in to the edit boxes.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 10:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Please stop rushing to
condemnation. You have no grounds to not purchase from the
site. You don't know if this is a problem just with new
versions of NVDA. I looked at the site a number of years
ago and I didn't use Chrome. It worked properly. Please
get the facts about these kinds of situations before rushing
to judgment. If this is an NVDA problem, it is not a Mice
Mart problem. If it only happends in current or very recent
versions of NVDA, then something has very likely changed in
NVDA. Once we determine if the problem is very likely an
NVDA or a site problem, we don't know if the site has been
contacted and how they have responded. If it is there
proboem, do they know about it? You have no facts.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice
mart site and nvda
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook
that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I
don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever
will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit
box do you hear what it say what you need to put in to the
box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why
you have the problem. I looked at the site using an
older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no
problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw no
such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29
PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind
mice mart site and nvda
When I
tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to
edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest
version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear
when I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with
add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been
going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This
problem occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign
up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't
know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the
site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of
nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
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|
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I don't know if you are serious. I hope
not. Let's see what other people say. Let's see if this is just an
NVDA problem or if other screen-readers have the problem. Let's see if it
is some oddity in your computer. We simply don't know.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
somone who can fill out the contact form can contact them
as I said I have always had this problem so that means for several versions of
nvda so maybe we need an add on to read edit boxes when you tab from edit box to
edit box so you can hear what you need to put in to the edit boxes.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 10:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Please stop rushing to condemnation. You
have no grounds to not purchase from the site. You don't know if this is
a problem just with new versions of NVDA. I looked at the site a number
of years ago and I didn't use Chrome. It worked properly. Please
get the facts about these kinds of situations before rushing to
judgment. If this is an NVDA problem, it is not a Mice Mart
problem. If it only happends in current or very recent versions of NVDA,
then something has very likely changed in NVDA. Once we determine if the
problem is very likely an NVDA or a site problem, we don't know if the site
has been contacted and how they have responded. If it is there proboem,
do they know about it? You have no facts.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave
recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I
wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what
it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why
you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of
NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago
and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August
30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem
with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up for
an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has
auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried the
same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit box is
edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still
the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have
not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every edit box on
the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters.
you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is
required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or
not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows
10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
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|
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
The problem is that the site is based on older technology. No--the tab
key does not work particularly well on the site, as is the case w/many
sites. But using arrow keys works very well. Using them, all form
fields are labeled, etc, using latest stable NVDA, Firefox, & Chrome.
So those who are having problems--have you tried using arrow keys? You
know, folks, it can cost a lot of money to keep websites up w/the
latest technologies. & these evolve so rapidly that one can find
oneself in a position of almost constantly having to pay for a revamp.
If the site truly were inaccessible, I'd have something to say--if for
no other reason that the web is what I do--but this from my experience
is not inaccessible nor has it ever been. Try up/down arrow keys,
yall. I think you'll like the results.
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On 8/30/18, brian <sackriderbrian45@...> wrote: somone who can fill out the contact form can contact them as I said
I have always had this problem so that means for several versions of
nvda so maybe we need an add on to read edit boxes when you tab from
edit box to edit box so you can hear what you need to put in to the edit
boxes.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 10:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Please stop rushing to condemnation. You have no grounds to not
purchase from the site. You don't know if this is a problem just with
new versions of NVDA. I looked at the site a number of years ago and
I didn't use Chrome. It worked properly. Please get the facts about
these kinds of situations before rushing to judgment. If this is an
NVDA problem, it is not a Mice Mart problem. If it only happends in
current or very recent versions of NVDA, then something has very
likely changed in NVDA. Once we determine if the problem is very
likely an NVDA or a site problem, we don't know if the site has been
contacted and how they have responded. If it is there proboem, do
they know about it? You have no facts.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Hi, Brian,
This is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has
microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop
on that site. I wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *brian
*Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:10 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and I have
always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what it
say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why you have the problem. I looked at the site using
an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also
looked at it years ago and saw no such problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*brian <mailto:sackriderbrian45@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*[nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to
edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version of
fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab
from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
I told the truth and I will alwaysspeak the truth even if you
don't want to hear it. The fact is that it does not work and
never has worked with either fire fox or ie or webie and any
version of nvda. It's time more people said what I said on the
other list we should not have to put up with inacessable web
sites. If you are happy with the way sites are thats your choice
but some of us are not and we have every right to bash any company
who does not fix the problem and make their site accessable for
every one.
Brian Sackrider
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 8/30/2018 10:19 PM, Gene wrote:
I didn't bash you. I responded
strongly to your disparagement of the company and saying how
horrible and disgraceful that the site is not accessible. You
said they should be shut down. You had no facts. All you
knew was that the site didn't work in your browser. You
didn't know if it was a general problem or a problem that
effects only or mostly you. You didn't know if the problem is
experienced with only NVDA or with other screen-readers. You
didn't know if it was experienced on one browser or in
general.
I consider it very inappropriate
to attack a site, and even more so, the site of a small
business owned by blind people when all you know is that it
doesn't work in your browser combined with your
screen-reader.
You bashed the company and I sent
a very strongly critical message. I don't know what your
definition is of bashing but when you bashed the company, I
responded strongly and I didn't mince words. I said nothing
objecting to people discussing problems. Of course people
should discuss problems if they wish. I have no objection to
you discussing it. I do object to you bashing and
making accusations and saying they should be shut down. You
have no facts to justify making such statements.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice
mart site and nvda
I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of got
bashed I guess that some people feel that we should not express
our problems when they should know better there is just no
excuse for this problem to occure especially on a blindness site
they should be ashamed of themselves. Their site should be
accessable for all screen readers and all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
I
agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed
for use with screen readers. That's a disgrace!
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if
you can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this
site is not accessable. You need to hear what gos in to
each edit box when you tab from edit box to edit box if you
can't then the site is usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook
that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I
don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they
ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this
problem and I have always had this problem when you tab
from edit box do you hear what it say what you need to put
in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know
why you have the problem. I looked at the site
using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had
no problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw
no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29
PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind
mice mart site and nvda
When I
tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box
to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest
version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear
when I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda
with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been
going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This
problem occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign
up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't
know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the
site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of
nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
|
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|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Also, you don't know if the owner or owners of the
business are even aware of the problem. You don't know the extent of the
problem, how many people have had it, and whether it has been reported to
them. You don't know if this is just an NVDA problem or if it is actually
a site problem. Yet you have repeatedly stated here that they should be
ashamed of themselves. That is completely unreasonable. That is my
last comment. I've said all I need to say.
\Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I didn't bash you. I responded strongly to
your disparagement of the company and saying how horrible and disgraceful that
the site is not accessible. You said they should be shut down. You
had no facts. All you knew was that the site didn't work in your
browser. You didn't know if it was a general problem or a problem that
effects only or mostly you. You didn't know if the problem is experienced
with only NVDA or with other screen-readers. You didn't know if it was
experienced on one browser or in general.
I consider it very inappropriate to attack a site,
and even more so, the site of a small business owned by blind people when all
you know is that it doesn't work in your browser combined with your
screen-reader.
You bashed the company and I sent a
very strongly critical message. I don't know
what your definition is of bashing but when you bashed the company, I responded
strongly and I didn't mince words. I said nothing objecting to people
discussing problems. Of course people should discuss problems if they
wish. I have no objection to you discussing it. I do object to you
bashing and making accusations and saying they should be shut
down. You have no facts to justify making such statements.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of
got bashed I guess that some people feel that we should not express our problems
when they should know better there is just no excuse for this problem to occure
especially on a blindness site they should be ashamed of themselves. Their site
should be accessable for all screen readers and all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
I
agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for use with screen
readers. That's a disgrace!
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if
you can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not
accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when you tab
from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave
recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I
wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear
what it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why
you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of
NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago
and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem
with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up for
an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has
auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried
the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit
box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and
it's still the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and
they have not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every
edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I didn't bash you. I responded strongly to
your disparagement of the company and saying how horrible and disgraceful that
the site is not accessible. You said they should be shut down. You
had no facts. All you knew was that the site didn't work in your
browser. You didn't know if it was a general problem or a problem that
effects only or mostly you. You didn't know if the problem is experienced
with only NVDA or with other screen-readers. You didn't know if it was
experienced on one browser or in general.
I consider it very inappropriate to attack a site,
and even more so, the site of a small business owned by blind people when all
you know is that it doesn't work in your browser combined with your
screen-reader.
You bashed the company and I sent a
very strongly critical message. I don't know
what your definition is of bashing but when you bashed the company, I responded
strongly and I didn't mince words. I said nothing objecting to people
discussing problems. Of course people should discuss problems if they
wish. I have no objection to you discussing it. I do object to you
bashing and making accusations and saying they should be shut
down. You have no facts to justify making such statements.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of
got bashed I guess that some people feel that we should not express our problems
when they should know better there is just no excuse for this problem to occure
especially on a blindness site they should be ashamed of themselves. Their site
should be accessable for all screen readers and all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
I
agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for use with screen
readers. That's a disgrace!
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if
you can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not
accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when you tab
from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave
recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I
wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear
what it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why
you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of
NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago
and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem
with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up for
an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has
auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried
the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit
box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and
it's still the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and
they have not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every
edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
somone who can fill out the contact form can contact them as
I said I have always had this problem so that means for several
versions of nvda so maybe we need an add on to read edit boxes
when you tab from edit box to edit box so you can hear what you
need to put in to the edit boxes.
Brian Sackrider
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 8/30/2018 10:06 PM, Gene wrote:
Please stop rushing to
condemnation. You have no grounds to not purchase from the
site. You don't know if this is a problem just with new
versions of NVDA. I looked at the site a number of years ago
and I didn't use Chrome. It worked properly. Please get the
facts about these kinds of situations before rushing to
judgment. If this is an NVDA problem, it is not a Mice Mart
problem. If it only happends in current or very recent
versions of NVDA, then something has very likely changed in
NVDA. Once we determine if the problem is very likely an NVDA
or a site problem, we don't know if the site has been
contacted and how they have responded. If it is there
proboem, do they know about it? You have no facts.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice
mart site and nvda
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook
that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I
don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever
will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box
do you hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I
don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why
you have the problem. I looked at the site using an
older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem.
I also looked at it years ago and saw no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site
and nvda
When I tried
to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest
version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when
I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with
add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been
going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up
for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know
what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site
not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda
and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Please stop rushing to condemnation. You have
no grounds to not purchase from the site. You don't know if this is a
problem just with new versions of NVDA. I looked at the site a number of
years ago and I didn't use Chrome. It worked properly. Please get
the facts about these kinds of situations before rushing to judgment. If
this is an NVDA problem, it is not a Mice Mart problem. If it only
happends in current or very recent versions of NVDA, then something has very
likely changed in NVDA. Once we determine if the problem is very likely an
NVDA or a site problem, we don't know if the site has been contacted and how
they have responded. If it is there proboem, do they know about it?
You have no facts.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave
recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I
wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2018 6:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re:
[nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and
I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what it
say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why you
have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of NVDA
and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw
no such problem.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August
30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with
the blind mice mart site and nvda
When I tried to sign up for an
account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto
complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried the same
thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit box is
edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the
same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have not fixt
the problem. This problem occures in
every edit box on the site the
contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill
out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit
box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest
version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app
ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I hear everything you would expect to hear on a
form.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and
I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what it
say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why you have the problem. I
looked at the site using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no
problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw no such problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box
to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version of
fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I
tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with
add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on
for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for
email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know
what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian
Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
You don't know they are even aware of the
problem. So far, we don't know how many people have the problem. If
they haven't tried the site with whatever conbinations of browsers and
screen-readers cause the problem, then why are you assuming they know about
it? Let's see what others say. I don't know what the situation is,
but on another list, Brian said this happens with the latest version of
NVDA. Now, he said it has been a problem for years. So what is the
problem? Is it limited to NVDA? Does it occur with JAWS or another
screen-reader? Does it only occur with the latest version of NVDA?
If so, how do we know if it is a web site problem or an NVDA problem?
The site worked properly when I checked it. I
am not using the latest version of NVDA and I checked it with Chrome.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
I just tried the site with webbie and it's not accessible. These
people should be ashamed of themselves--especially since they claim to be a site
designed for use with screen readers. -----Original
Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian Sent: Thursday, August 30,
2018 5:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda]
problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda I
just tried to go in to the site with webie and it just says edit when I tab from
edit box to edit box. Brian Sackrider On 8/30/2018 8:49 PM,
Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > Hi, Brian, > > Do you have the
webbie browser? Maybe you can try with that one. Since webbie is text-based,
maybe you might have better luck with it. > Rosemarie > >
-----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of > brian > Sent: Thursday,
August 30, 2018 5:29 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject:
[nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda > > When I
tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to edit box all I hear
is edit has auto complete on the latest version of fire fox. When I tried
the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from edit box to edit box is
edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons disabled and it's still the same.
This problems has been going on for years now and they have not fixt the
problem. This problem occures in every edit box on the site the contact
form and the sign up for email newsletters. you can't fill out any form if
you don't know what information is required in each edit box this makes the site
not accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the latest
update of windows 10 app ecentials. > > Brian
Sackrider > > > > > > >
>
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Well, I find the arrow keys work quite well on that site. I suppose if
you're not into using them then yes, perhaps that will create a
problem, but really, all, the form is very accessible using arrow keys
& spacebar/enter appropriately.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 8/30/18, brian <sackriderbrian45@...> wrote: I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of got bashed
I guess that some people feel that we should not express our problems
when they should know better there is just no excuse for this problem to
occure especially on a blindness site they should be ashamed of
themselves. Their site should be accessable for all screen readers and
all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for use with
screen readers. That's a disgrace!
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*brian
*Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:23 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if you can't
fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not
accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when you
tab from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Brian,
This is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that
has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think
I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever will fix that site.
Rosemarie
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *brian
*Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:10 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and I
have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you
hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why you have the problem. I looked at the site
using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no
problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw no such problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*brian <mailto:sackriderbrian45@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*[nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box
to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version
of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I
tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going
on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up
for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda
and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
I also posted this on the blind tech list and I kind of got
bashed I guess that some people feel that we should not express
our problems when they should know better there is just no excuse
for this problem to occure especially on a blindness site they
should be ashamed of themselves. Their site should be accessable
for all screen readers and all brousers.
Brian Sackrider
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 8/30/2018 9:26 PM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
I
agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be
accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for
use with screen readers. That's a disgrace!
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if you
can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is
not accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box
when you tab from edit box to edit box if you can't then the
site is usless.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook
that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I
don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever
will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit
box do you hear what it say what you need to put in to the
box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I
don't know why you have the problem. I looked at the
site using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and
had no problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw
no such problem.
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject:
[nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I
tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to
edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest
version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear
when I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with
add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been
going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This
problem occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign
up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't
know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the
site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of
nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
|
|
|
Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I agree with you. There's no excuse for that site not to be accessible--especially since they're supposedly designed for use with screen readers. That's a disgrace!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if you can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when you tab from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is usless. Brian Sackrider On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: Hi, Brian, This is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever will fix that site. Rosemarie Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't. Brian Sackrider On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote: I don't know why you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw no such problem. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
I don't know why they have not fixt their site yet if you
can't fill out any forms you can't buy anything this site is not
accessable. You need to hear what gos in to each edit box when
you tab from edit box to edit box if you can't then the site is
usless.
Brian Sackrider
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On 8/30/2018 9:17 PM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
Hi,
Brian,
This
is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook
that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I
don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever
will fix that site.
Rosemarie
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem
and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box
do you hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I
don't.
Brian Sackrider
On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I
don't know why you have the problem. I looked at the
site using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and
had no problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw
no such problem.
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Sent:
Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject:
[nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried
to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest
version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when
I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with
add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been
going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up
for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know
what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site
not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda
and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
Hi, Brian, This is a mystery to me too. I was planning to buy a cookbook that has microwave recipes that you make in a mug but I don't think I'll shop on that site. I wonder if they ever will fix that site. Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and I have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't. Brian Sackrider On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote: I don't know why you have the problem. I looked at the site using an older version of NVDA and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years ago and saw no such problem. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
I should add that I'm not saying others don't have
the problem but I suspect it is a problem limited to your or not many
machines. We'll see what others report.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart site and
nvda
When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to
edit box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version of fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials. Brian
Sackrider
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Re: problem with the blind mice mart site and nvda
brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
Gene this is a mystery why you don't have this problem and I
have always had this problem when you tab from edit box do you
hear what it say what you need to put in to the box? I don't.
Brian Sackrider
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On 8/30/2018 9:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why you have the
problem. I looked at the site using an older version of NVDA
and of Chrome and had no problem. I also looked at it years
ago and saw no such problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the blind mice mart
site and nvda
When I tried to sign up for an account and I tab from edit box to
edit
box all I hear is edit has auto complete on the latest version of
fire
fox. When I tried the same thing with ie 11 all I hear when I tab
from
edit box to edit box is edit. I have restarted nvda with add ons
disabled and it's still the same. This problems has been going on
for
years now and they have not fixt the problem. This problem
occures in
every edit box on the site the contact form and the sign up for
email
newsletters. you can't fill out any form if you don't know what
information is required in each edit box this makes the site not
accessable like it or not. I have the latest version of nvda and
the
latest update of windows 10 app ecentials.
Brian Sackrider
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