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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Antony Stone
You could alternatively try downloading the last version of NVDA which
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supported Windows 7 without Service Pack 1. a) that should get you working on this machine, albeit with an older version of NVDA, until you can install SP1, then you can upgrade NVDA b) you can then check for yourself, without needing sighted help, whether SP1 is installed or not. You can download that version from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2017.3/nvda_2017.3.exe Antony.
On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 17:31:55, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
thank u antony --
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
thanks brian for your reply.
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can you please test firefox 52.9 on windows xp and confirm whether its slow or not using windows xp?
On 9/2/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:
not sure --
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
not sure
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but thanks anyway
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From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE Is your windows 7 version at least sp1 or is it a very early version?
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Re: ccleaner new version
Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
Oh man, I broke my main system Friday trying to get rid of the evil thing that is Avast! To make a long story short, I was trying to stop it from starting up so I could do the manual uninstall. I went into MSConfig in order to do that and instead of disabling just the Avast services, somehow I managed to disable everything.
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   I used to use MSConfig when it was just the list of programs starting up and then a way to stop them. Well now it still gives you the list but then it says either enable all or disable all.
On 9/2/2018 1:34 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
By unwanted they mean avast anti virus, usually a couple of hours after you installed ccleaner. Then you need avastclear to get rid of it so it does not self install again later after you uninstall it.
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Re: A bug to repport: NVDA works harder in Windows Explorer for some users.
Antony Stone
Windows Explorer is not the same as Internet Explorer.
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Antony.
On Sunday 02 September 2018 at 12:47:50, Alexander Masic wrote:
In my opinion the delelopers should not put resourses to fix something --
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Re: A bug to repport: NVDA works harder in Windows Explorer for some users.
Alexander Masic
In my opinion the delelopers should not put resourses to fix something for a webbrowser wich is all most near to be faced out. So how would if you who complain instead should tart using Firefox instead? Very good webbrowser and accessible.
Den 2018-09-01 kl. 22:35, skrev Florian
Ionașcu:
Yeah, I'm using Windows 10. I know only one of them as a Windows 10 user.
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Re: ccleaner new version
Brian's Mail list account
I would take issue with you about your .ini file. If i run that with ccleaner it will remove all the mailto links in the registry, so nothing will use my default mail client when i click on a lingk to an email address. I've put that all back as default now. Also, I have also made the cookies line remove avast cookies.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version I doubt that its the case.
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Re: kody
Brian's Mail list account
OK the fact that its multi platform makes me think that its not been made with any API in mind at all, and this is a worry.
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However they do say some things about a web interface for it, so I did wonder if one might be able to control it like that in some way. Obviously I've not tried it as I've only just heard of it, but being open source and one supposes it has a forum and probably some email addresses for queries, your questions about the accessibility are probably better directed there Apart from Mozilla who do attempt to make their code specific to the operating system and hence its API I have not had much luck with these sort of programmes in the past, sadly. Media library front ends are notoriously odd and most of those used on home entertainment systems tend to be touch screen or graphic based. It could be that the so called screenreader is some kind of self voicing interface written similar to the way SpeakOn works. If its not installing then maybe its something to raze with the authors. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Adel Spence" <adelspence12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 11:40 PM Subject: [nvda] kody hi there. can someone please help me with kody? its not talking with nvdA or jaws. you can install a skreenreader for it. but I doent know ware to get the skreenreader, and how to install it. can you please help me? if you want to ad me on skype, its adel.spence or you can email me at: adel.spence12@... i'm wateing for your ancers
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Re: A bug to repport: NVDA works harder in Windows Explorer for some users.
Brian's Mail list account
What they need to do I think is firstly find out the build number of their windows. Make sure all add ons are off in nvda.
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Set debug as the logging level in the prefs. Now try the problem, and when things return to normal, restart nvda and start the run box. type%temp% and enter. In that folder should be the old nvda log, renamed with old in the name!! Get that into a text editor and have a look at it around the time when the problem happened. Hint its more likely to be near the end as you restarted nvda. It might show that there is watchdog activity, and phrases like frozen in stack etc. If they then make an account on github, and follow the links to new issue in the nvda section there is a template to fill out and you can either paste in the text file or upload it to the site If they would rather let you post it here, then do so, but we do need to know the details of the machines and the version of windows in use as there are people here who will know the foibles of each version and probably ve able to guess what might be going on. I have to say I've had little issues with Winamp in windows 7 and am not totally convinced the lock up etc is completely due to the task switching either, unless there is a lot of animation going on somewhere that needs to be stopped. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Florian Ionașcu" <florianionascu@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] A bug to repport: NVDA works harder in Windows Explorer for some users. Yeah, I'm using Windows 10. I know only one of them as a Windows 10 user.
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Brian's Mail list account
I do often think that one of the perennial problems for programmers is that of making an optimised version for all situations.
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I do agree that browsers like the New Firefox is, in my view a backward step in accessibility, and also nvda though faster in it now than it was is also less fast on older browsers, not all but some. Only the programmers might know why, but I suspect that decisions have to be made about what version of code is used for a given situation, and here it might be that things get slowed down. I think it perfectly fair comment if you have limited access to modern versions of Windows, that when you find a working version of NVDA that you stay with it. After all I do still have some XP machines running the older versions and they are quite happy and why worry? The fact is, time and tech do move on and so making something work is a constant catch up game, since we effectively get a complete new windows every half year, which personally I find ridiculous , but that is a whole other discussion for another place. Myself, just as with XP if it continues to suit my needs and does not die, I shall be using windows 7 until forced to change for my main machine for my charity work as it is after all the years of updates much more reliable than a brand new version of windows 10 every six months can ever be. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 6:36 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE hi.
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Brian's Mail list account
I would also add, and this is from my personal experience. The portable version can access mor things when they rerunning in windows 7, than it can when they are on windows 10. This I think has to do with the greater use of UIA on 10, and hence non installed versions of nvda cannot always get access to the data, unless an old way of doing things already exists of course.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE Hi,
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Brian's Mail list account
Is your windows 7 version at least sp1 or is it a very early version?
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From: "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness@...> To: <nvda@groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:45 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE hi all i have the latest NVDA as a portable version on a flash drive, when i try to run it on a windows 7 system, it is not working it is saying windows 7 does not support this version how is this? thanks
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Re: Can one selectively cut and past text from a wordd graphic identifier without the graphic?
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No that loses the graphic and its tag.
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From: "Brian Tew via Groups.Io" <briantew1951@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 8:43 PM Subject: [nvda] Can one selectively cut and past text from a wordd graphic identifier without the graphic? Maybe you could use a file converter and just convert the file to .txt.
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Re: Can one selectively cut and past text from a wordd graphic identifier without the graphic?
Brian's Mail list account
Well being the old codger I am I am using word 2003 with the file conversion add on.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Can one selectively cut and past text from a wordd graphic identifier without the graphic? Brian, Yes, absolutely, but exactly how one does this depends on what version of Office one is using. For Word 2016: * Select Graphic. * Hit the Menu/Applications Key or SHIFT + F10, followed by A (Edit A lt Text) * Select the Alt Text out of the dialog that appears then copy. It is the one and only text box that appears. For Word 2010: * Select Graphic. * Hit the Menu/Applications Key or SHIFT + F10, followed by O (F o rmat Picture) * In the format dialog that comes up, Alt Text is the last item in the list, once selected navigate to the Alt Text box to copy. There is a title and description box. I do not know when "the split" in style occurred, so Word 2013 might follow either one of the above methods. I believe 2010 and older all use the method mentioned for 2010. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: Can one selectively cut and past text from a wordd graphic identifier without the graphic?
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It did not seem to work in any mode, sadly.
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Maybe a new day might make me have a sudden flash of inspiration. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Can one selectively cut and past text from a wordd graphic identifier without the graphic? did you test copy your desire item while in brows mode?
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Re: ccleaner new version
Brian's Mail list account
The problem is that the aggressive Avast people took over PiReform and I understand the old team were not particularly happy about this. In fact the malware was not bad, but I suspect was done deliberately by the disgruntled people who no doubt were getting the chop..
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It has scanned OK and now they have at least given people the ability to turn off the snooping, at least we assume they have come clean completely as obviously the free version had to be subsidised by collecting metrics from the users. The real power bits of ccleaner for me are the ability to look at browser add ons, and tasks and start up items and toggle them, also to see what system restore points are set and to remove old ones. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Desert Moon" <desert.moon@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version Hello, Not a big fan of products like CCleaner. In September of 2017, it was widely reported that the backdoor was being exploited to have malware implanted. And another report last December: The actual malware detected in CCleaner was found to contain malicious code: the attackers implanted their code in a legitimate product that received a legitimate certificate. Who knows when or if the above will happen again. Use the product at your own risk. -- Desert
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Re: ccleaner new version
I doubt that its the case.
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Adds are usually just spammy adds and I wouldn't trust them. As for the portable version, its been the same version for ages and ages, that means your installed version from official ccleaner site, is the latest always and you can get it from the builds page. And even if it became an avast product its not that bad as long as you still had portable. Look at sophos, look at malwarebytes, malware bytes is a sophos product. So it can work. I will not install it but even so ccleaner is still good.
On 9/2/2018 8:36 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
In my experience the portable is normally an older version to the installed one.
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ccleaner
Hi.
The malware issue was only for a couple days, someone in the company had issues with them and so put malicious code in. They took that seriously and handled it. As for avast, ccleaner portable is what I would go for or slim. To be honest once set right the only thing you miss from the installed coppy are the desktop and program shortcuts. And from my descussion with ccleaner they are going to look at avast being in their installers. Sadly, I have several friends saying that all cleaners ccleaner, etc are malware. To avoid this they buy something like mcafee or norton. Sadly we all know how bad those are. Its what we have to remove from our computers. I think ccleaner compaired to some is quite safe. They are up front with what they install and you can use other things for installers or portable.
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Re: ccleaner new version
Brian's Mail list account
Not tried the latest but it normal does work. It might not work if you try it with a portable nvda though.
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From: "Kevin" <kleeva5@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version I use to view the summary report by pressing alt+tab after ccleaner announces 100 percent analyse button, but that does not seem to work. E-mail is golden!!! Kevin Lee From: Roger Stewart Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 11:51 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version Thanks much! That worked like a champ! I bookmarked the page so as long as the portable version is always on this page I can get newer versions from now on. If they change the page with each new version, then it won't work but I hope it will. Roger On 9/1/2018 1:16 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote: this is the portable version of the ccleaner
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Re: ccleaner new version
Brian's Mail list account
In my experience the portable is normally an older version to the installed one.
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I also noticed something in an advert on filehippo yesterday, an advert for an Avast system cleaning utility. Could we be nearing the end of ccleaner now they belong to Avast as it seems half the universe now does? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version I was trying to get the latest version of the portable Ccleaner.
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