Re: ccleaner new version
Gene
The ini file should not be set to remove all
cookies. Third party cookies, fine, or however CCleaner removes tracking
cookies and other cookies, most of which will be third party cookies. but
since far too many people rely on cookies to log into sites automatically and
make the very serious mistake of not saving there user information somewhere
where they can get it, in a password protected file, in Braille, etc. they will
be unable to log into all their sites that require it and will manually have to
enter their user information for every one. If they don't have it, they
will have to use the forgot password features on all such sites.
When you create such a file and distribute it, you
need to consider the way typical users use their computers, not jus how you
do.
Gene
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version I tried! As for the avast cookies having them there will stop some adds coming aparently. As for your mailto entries, since my system is a system without any office program, and since I don't doodle with the applications I can't fix everything. The ini file is a general configuration file made for a general windows system. You will have to customise things manually if your configuration is different, maybe I should add this as a disclaimer or something. I don't include everything, yes I could but it slows things down. If you think you need to modify for yourself etc then you can do so. On 9/2/2018 10:35 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: > I would take issue with you about your .ini file. If i run that with > ccleaner it will remove all the mailto links in the registry, so > nothing will use my default mail client when i click on a lingk to an > email address. I've put that all back as default now. Also, I have > also made the cookies line remove avast cookies. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version > > >> I doubt that its the case. >> >> Adds are usually just spammy adds and I wouldn't trust them. >> >> As for the portable version, its been the same version for ages and >> ages, that means your installed version from official ccleaner site, >> is the latest always and you can get it from the builds page. >> >> And even if it became an avast product its not that bad as long as >> you still had portable. >> >> Look at sophos, look at malwarebytes, malware bytes is a sophos product. >> >> So it can work. >> >> I will not install it but even so ccleaner is still good. >> >> >> >> On 9/2/2018 8:36 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: >>> In my experience the portable is normally an older version to the >>> installed one. >>> >>> I also noticed something in an advert on filehippo yesterday, an >>> advert for an Avast system cleaning utility. Could we be nearing the >>> end of ccleaner now they belong to Avast as it seems half the >>> universe now does? >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal E-mail to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...> >>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 6:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version >>> >>> >>>> I was trying to get the latest version of the portable Ccleaner. >>>> >>>> Roger >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/1/2018 12:21 PM, Gene wrote: >>>>> Only use the portable version or the slim version. The other versions >>>>> are likely to install unwanted programs in additional to the actual >>>>> software. >>>>> Gene >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Roger Stewart <mailto:paganus2@...> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 01, 2018 11:05 AM >>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] ccleaner new version >>>>> >>>>> Can you please provide a link to the latest portable version? I tried >>>>> Googling it and there were several links there, but I tried them >>>>> all and >>>>> none of them seemed to work. I found the download button but when I >>>>> activate it it just clicks and shows a screen shot of the Ccleaner >>>>> itself but no download occurred on any of those links I found. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Roger >>>>> >>>>> \ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/1/2018 12:21 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote: >>>>> > Hi all portable ccleaner users. >>>>> > >>>>> > Here is the updated ini file if you don't want to bother with it. >>>>> > >>>>> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/m15toyhbsmdy5fb/ccleaner.ini?dl=1 >>>>> > >>>>> > For those that want to know what is changed. >>>>> > >>>>> > options/privacy needs to be reset because the preffs string is >>>>> different. >>>>> > >>>>> > The only other thing I have done is clear out the version strings >>>>> that >>>>> > existed in there and rebuilt the ics program version string data. >>>>> > >>>>> > For all the rest, while you can get the slim installer now I have >>>>> > portable it just works. >>>>> > >>>>> > Things that have been changed include fixing the privacy setting >>>>> > issues with extra info added for that option including more >>>>> > datashheets for it. >>>>> > >>>>> > The adjusting of the monitering so it says smart cleaning >>>>> instead to >>>>> > explain what it does. >>>>> > >>>>> > If you turn off smart cleaning ccleaner shouldn't stay loaded at >>>>> > startup anymore. >>>>> > >>>>> > There is supposed to be a checkbox revamp and some more >>>>> descriptions >>>>> > but I have yet to see any change, and to be honest now that I >>>>> can use >>>>> > portable easily enough I don't know if I will ever go back to >>>>> > installed ever again. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > . >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > . >
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Re: kody
Adel Spence
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thank you!
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Re: Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness
Gene
This may be referring to the amount of virtual
memory. Absolutely not the cause of the problem. If you had so
little RAM in the computer that you couldn't even down arrow through a files and
folders list, you couldn't run any programs except so slowly you wouldn't use
the machine.
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From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 1803 and file explorer
sluggishness Both thoughts to consider. Thanks. I wouldn't know where to go looking for
the virtual storage setting. On 9/2/2018 11:17 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
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Re: who knows this?
Dejan Ristic
Hi once more,
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To be more specific, today I happened to face a new VLC update coming into view. NVDA did not inform me of an update being available. As I've already said to you, I hit NVDA plus B to read the message of updates with the buttons making up the dialogue together with the message asking whether I wished to perform the updates.
On 31/08/2018 13:31, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Hi to you, friend,
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Re: Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness
Gene
Others who use Windows 10 will telll you more and
we will see if my memory is correct. As I recall, this is the result of
UIA, a system used much more in Windows 10 to communicate with
screen-readers. I don't think you can do anything about it, as I recall
what I've seen discussed here, though I may have found a partial work
around. I don't use Windows 10 so you can see. I'll explain it after
the rest of my general comments. I wonder if JAWS has the same
problem. Others who know more technically may comment on whether this is a
Microsoft problem or if it will take both Microsoft and NVDA developers to solve
it.
Try this:
I'm giving desktop layout commands:
Move into the folder where you want to find a
file. Instead of down arrowing, move through each item as though it were
its own object, which it is. The command to move by object down the screen
is numpad insert numpad 6. Keep holding insert and pressing six to move
through the list. To move back, the command is numpad insert numpad
4. When you want to open something, it will not be selected. use the
command numpad insert numpad enter. Execute the command twice, once to
select the item, once to open it. You are doing what a mouse user does
when he/she double clicks an item. You aren't using a mouse but you are
first selecting, then taking an action, in this case opening it, which is the
same sequence a mouse user follows.
Gene
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From: Kwork
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2018 1:02 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 1803 and file explorer
sluggishness ask more NVDA users here, so am copying below the message I sent to the other list with an additional NVDA question. First of all, I'm still getting used to the idea that File Explore now uses ribbons rather than the menus on my former Windows 7 installation. What's bothering me more is the sluggishness when moving around through files and folders. There seems to be between a quarter and a half second delay after each press of the arrow and enter keys. Same with the backspace. First question: is there a way to toggle between folders and ribbons, or am I stuck? I'm guessing the answer to be stuck. Next, is there a way to speed up movement through navigating files and folders? As far as I can tell, I have all visuals and animations turned off. The sluggishness remains, and increases over time. Starting and stopping the "Windows Explorer" process in Task Manager seems to make things less slow, but still not normal for a few minutes, then things get more and more sluggish again. In addition, is there anything in NVDA that I can check to see if it would help in the new sluggishness? I just miss the snappiness I had in Windows 7. If anyone knows what I can do, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Travis
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Re: Burning cd-disks using NVDA
Well you will need to use the installer without opencandy forgot where you get that but yeah its good.
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On 9/3/2018 4:00 AM, Damien Garwood wrote:
Hi,
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Re: ccleaner new version
Well there is but to be honest, the portable software is not that bad once you use my ini file, and maybe if you need to with sightling help, configure it for your particular situation, the ini is for a generic os, so if you use firefox/chrome/edge/ie/waterfox and thunderbird, winamp, vlc, its going to be fine.
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If you don't customise to what you need. Open ccleaner with that ini file in there, then close it, open the ini file in notepad and change what you need in that file and open ccleaner again make sure you save the file first. You need to set the recyclebin and run checks in options and the skip uac in advanced options. Once you are done, you are done. I wouldn't abandon ccleaner especially now the ini works.
On 9/3/2018 3:19 AM, The Wolf wrote:
so is there any alternatives to the software, besides using the portable software?
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Re: ccleaner new version
Thats been that way for ages, piriform know about that, but who knows when it will be actually fixed, they say they have redone the checkboxes, no change as of yet sadly.
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Its why I have the general purpose ini file.
On 9/3/2018 3:19 AM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,
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Re: ccleaner new version
The reason I don't include the enhancer file is it will sow down the system if you use all its options.
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On 9/3/2018 1:22 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:
Below is the link for the enhancer file, which will allow more cleaning options and otherwise. It should work on portable versions. I've also included a link to Puran Utilities, an accessible revo uninstaller alternative. Puran is not portable. I believe it is open source though? Not sure. Puran is also like a system mechanic, but accessible. It hasn't been updated in a while though, but I have yet to find a program as good.
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Re: ccleaner new version
Well the cookies line will repopulate.
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I tried! As for the avast cookies having them there will stop some adds coming aparently. As for your mailto entries, since my system is a system without any office program, and since I don't doodle with the applications I can't fix everything. The ini file is a general configuration file made for a general windows system. You will have to customise things manually if your configuration is different, maybe I should add this as a disclaimer or something. I don't include everything, yes I could but it slows things down. If you think you need to modify for yourself etc then you can do so.
On 9/2/2018 10:35 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I would take issue with you about your .ini file. If i run that with ccleaner it will remove all the mailto links in the registry, so nothing will use my default mail client when i click on a lingk to an email address. I've put that all back as default now. Also, I have also made the cookies line remove avast cookies.
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
I agree its hard.
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However with something like a web brouser, it should be able to run anywhere you want without issue. This is not a specialised program, thunderbird works in quantom mode but I only use email, I know the addons panel doesn't work but I don't need that, it is a bit slower and can be problematic at times.
On 9/2/2018 9:07 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I do often think that one of the perennial problems for programmers is that of making an optimised version for all situations.
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Re: ccleaner new version
Well I would have prefured to be honest that I could buy a licence to use ccleaner without any monitering as an on demand thing.
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I don't care to buy pro, I don't need the features, I really don't. I do think though that if they keep being to aggressive well who knows.
On 9/2/2018 8:49 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
The problem is that the aggressive Avast people took over PiReform and I understand the old team were not particularly happy about this. In fact the malware was not bad, but I suspect was done deliberately by the disgruntled people who no doubt were getting the chop..
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Re: Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness
Kwork
Both thoughts to consider. Thanks. I wouldn't know where to go
looking for the virtual storage setting.
On 9/2/2018 11:17 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
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Re: Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness
Dan Beaver
HI,
I hate to suggest this because I would hope that this kind of thing has been eliminated since I last did software development.
It sounds to me that what you are experiencing is like what used to happen when a program had a memory leak. As time went by and more and more events happened memory would fill up and things would slow down.
I would expect that if this were the case many more of us would be seeing this behavior too but so far it doesn't sound like there are very many.
Is this possible?
Another thought is that have you checked to make sure the virtual storage setting is high enough on your system? This used to happen if virtual storage was set too low. Sorry, it has been too long since I last worked with virtual storage and I can't seem to find where this setting is on Windows 10. Maybe someone else on here can suggest how to find it.
I hope this helps.
Dan Beaver
On 9/2/2018 2:02 PM, Kwork wrote:
Since asking this on the Windows 10 list, it was also suggested that I ask more NVDA users here, so am copying below the message I sent to the other list with an additional NVDA question.
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Windows 10 1803 and file explorer sluggishness
Kwork
Since asking this on the Windows 10 list, it was also suggested that I ask more NVDA users here, so am copying below the message I sent to the other list with an additional NVDA question.
First of all, I'm still getting used to the idea that File Explore now uses ribbons rather than the menus on my former Windows 7 installation. What's bothering me more is the sluggishness when moving around through files and folders. There seems to be between a quarter and a half second delay after each press of the arrow and enter keys. Same with the backspace. First question: is there a way to toggle between folders and ribbons, or am I stuck? I'm guessing the answer to be stuck. Next, is there a way to speed up movement through navigating files and folders? As far as I can tell, I have all visuals and animations turned off. The sluggishness remains, and increases over time. Starting and stopping the "Windows Explorer" process in Task Manager seems to make things less slow, but still not normal for a few minutes, then things get more and more sluggish again. In addition, is there anything in NVDA that I can check to see if it would help in the new sluggishness? I just miss the snappiness I had in Windows 7. If anyone knows what I can do, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Travis
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Gene
I meant to say I'm not sure if its slower loading
pages but it is slower starting when you run it.
Gene
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I'm not sure if its slower loading pages. is
slower when you tell the program to run to fully start running.
I don't know if it is slower than versions like
51.x but it's noticeably slower compared with 49.exe in starting to run
time.
Gene
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can you please test firefox 52.9 on windows xp and confirm whether its slow or not using windows xp? On 9/2/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote: > not sure > but thanks anyway > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" > <bglists@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 4:53 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE > > >> Is your windows 7 version at least sp1 or is it a very early version? >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal E-mail to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness@...> >> To: <nvda@groups.io> >> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:45 PM >> Subject: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE >> >> >> hi all >> i have the latest NVDA as a portable version on a flash drive, when i try >> >> to run it on a windows 7 system, it is not working >> it is saying windows 7 does not support this version >> how is this? >> thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: who knows this?
Gene
Do some programs tell you and some not or do none
tell you. I'm trying to determine if this is an accessibility problem with
certain programs, a problem with your Windows causing nothing to tell you, or a
problem with only certain programs. If it's a problem with only certain
programs, I doubt you can other than, perhaps performing OCR on the screen,
which might tell you.
If it's a problem with Windows, you may be able to
correct it or, if you don't want to spend the time and trouble, I have no idea
how easy or difficult it may be, doing OCR on the screen may tell you in that
case as well.
Gene
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first I want to know what is the name of the app or programm that wants to update. cheers paul otter Op 2-9-2018 om 16:35 schreef Gene:
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Re: make nvda read blues tacks
Rosemarie Chavarria
What does this mean?
We don't know what you're talking about.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sirajudin Sulaiman
hi i am sirajudin from maalaysia can i ask nvda developper to make NVDA read blues tacks acualyat sine in screen! i hope can? smile!
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make nvda read blues tacks
Sirajudin Sulaiman
hi i am sirajudin from maalaysia can i ask nvda developper to make NVDA read blues tacks acualyat sine in screen! i hope can? smile!
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Re: NVDA PORTABLE
Gene
I'm not sure if its slower loading pages. is
slower when you tell the program to run to fully start running.
I don't know if it is slower than versions like
51.x but it's noticeably slower compared with 49.exe in starting to run
time.
Gene
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can you please test firefox 52.9 on windows xp and confirm whether its slow or not using windows xp? On 9/2/18, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote: > not sure > but thanks anyway > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" > <bglists@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 4:53 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE > > >> Is your windows 7 version at least sp1 or is it a very early version? >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal E-mail to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness@...> >> To: <nvda@groups.io> >> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 3:45 PM >> Subject: [nvda] NVDA PORTABLE >> >> >> hi all >> i have the latest NVDA as a portable version on a flash drive, when i try >> >> to run it on a windows 7 system, it is not working >> it is saying windows 7 does not support this version >> how is this? >> thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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