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Re: single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

Jonathan COHN
 

Ah yes, of course but for consumers of content, JAWS enables the P keys to be used for paragraph navigation quite easy to remember and also easy to type. Of course, JAWS oly allows this command in the equivalent of the browse mode in NVDA.

 

It seems that this request comes up on a fairly regular basis, and there must be some way that NVDA enables control-arrow to function in browsers, so perhaps this could be easy to implement for browse mode???

 

So the questions to answer for this are:

  1. Is there a browse mode script function to move by paragraph?
  2. How does one add / modify browse mode single character assignments?
  3. What are the simplist specific steps to make the association between P and rparagraph navigation browse script functions.

Then perhaps we can stop seeing this question on the NVDA mailing list on a monthly basis!

 

Ta!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

From: Ann Byrne <annakb@...>
Date: Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:52 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

 

Ctrl+down arrow will do it.  This is an Office command, not a screen reader command.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 6:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] single key command for paragraph by paragraph navigation

 

I've been looking for this for years and have yet to find one. I have no idea why this is so hard to find.


Braille command for continuous read with NVDA.

GTT Coordinator, Canadian Council Of The Blind <gttprogram@...>
 

Hi all.

I have just recently been using NVDA with a focus braille display and love it.  I have the braille extender add on and I have been able to emulate many keyboard commands from the display but  I can’t seem to figure out how to do a continuous read.

Also, is there anywhere where I can see a list of the commands?

Thanks for any help. Kim

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

 

As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth

and select it in NVDA...

 

Rui

 

 

Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:

> Hello there,

>

> I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.

> It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

>

> Can anybody help please?

>

>

> Greetings - Hermann

>

>  

>

>

> ■■■

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck

Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:

What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie




Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello Hermann,


I hope it works for you as it has for me and others.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 07/09/2018 20:03, Hermann-Josef Kurzen ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

okay, I've downloaded the driver.
Thank You very much.


Greetings - Hermann


■■■


Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 19:37 Uhr
Von: Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hello there,


Here's a link to my Dropbox for the driver.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


Grab it, install it, then choose Freedom Scientific in the display
braille list in NVDA, press OK, and you should be good to go.


hth, keep well,

Ollie





Il 07/09/2018 17:49, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or
Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:
Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann



■■■







Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hermann-Josef Kurzen
 

Hi Ollie,

okay, I've downloaded the driver.
Thank You very much.


Greetings - Hermann


■■■

Gesendet: Freitag, 07. September 2018 um 19:37 Uhr
Von: Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Hello there,


Here's a link to my Dropbox for the driver.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


Grab it, install it, then choose Freedom Scientific in the display
braille list in NVDA, press OK, and you should be good to go.


hth, keep well,

Ollie





Il 07/09/2018 17:49, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or
Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:
Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann



■■■









Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Lino Morales
 

What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and happy downloading.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard <mallard@...>
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?
 
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie




Re: NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello there,


Here's a link to my Dropbox for the driver.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwu4v41b2guydn2/FocusBlueDriver1.0.2030.exe?dl=0


Grab it, install it, then choose Freedom Scientific in the display braille list in NVDA, press OK, and you should be good to go.


hth, keep well,

Ollie

Il 07/09/2018 17:49, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth and select it in NVDA...

Rui


Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:
Hello there,

I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.
It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

Can anybody help please?


Greetings - Hermann



■■■





Re: [nvda-addons] Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Mostly for Doug and others looking for layered command samples: take a look at StationPlaylist Studio add-on source code located at:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist

Note that the overall mechanism (using functools.wraps decorator) was Tyler Spivey’s idea (I and others owe him tremendous gratitude for his code fragment).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Two add-ons have been updated today:

  • ObjPad 18.09: until now, in order to activate a given object, you had to press Space. Starting with 18.09, you can now press Enter to activate the object you are located at. Also, the add-on will speak more languages thanks to work from translators.
  • StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: besides letting you save playlist data to a CSV file, it now opens the door for Add-on Updater to update this add-on. It also includes a feature that’ll become active once NVDA 2018.3 stable version is released: ability to save add-on settings from anywhere by pressing Control+NVDA+C.

 

A note about StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: this is a long-term support release. Version 18.09.x will be powered by Python 2, with a future stable release switching to Python 3 once NVDA does transition to Python 3. Also, if you are using Studio 5.10, 18.09.x is for you.

 

Additional details:

 

  • Later in September, an 18.09.x version will be released, locking the update channel to LTS. If you wish to use stable releases (18.10 and beyond), you SHOULD NOT install that version; if you do, you need to visit NVDA add-ons website and download the stable (18.10) version, which, among other things, will require NVDA 2018.3. For now, 18.09 (the zero version) won’t lock you to LTS channel, so stable version users can use this release.
  • Support for Studio 5.11 is contingent on user feedback. Although Studio 5.20 includes features used to make some add-on features more efficient to implement, there are folks who need to use 5.11 for various reasons. Thus, about 60 days prior to ending support for 5.11 (likely in 2020), I’ll post a notice regarding this matter.
  • There are vast differences between python 2 and 3. Since LTS and stable releases will be powered by Python 2 and 3, respectively, I’ll try my best to backport newer features to 18.09.x (LTS) users if it is possible.
  • Support for 18.09.x will end in December 2019 at the earliest.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Note: these releases will be released to the world in about an hour from now.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

 

Two add-ons have been updated today:

  • ObjPad 18.09: until now, in order to activate a given object, you had to press Space. Starting with 18.09, you can now press Enter to activate the object you are located at. Also, the add-on will speak more languages thanks to work from translators.
  • StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: besides letting you save playlist data to a CSV file, it now opens the door for Add-on Updater to update this add-on. It also includes a feature that’ll become active once NVDA 2018.3 stable version is released: ability to save add-on settings from anywhere by pressing Control+NVDA+C.

 

A note about StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: this is a long-term support release. Version 18.09.x will be powered by Python 2, with a future stable release switching to Python 3 once NVDA does transition to Python 3. Also, if you are using Studio 5.10, 18.09.x is for you.

 

Additional details:

 

  • Later in September, an 18.09.x version will be released, locking the update channel to LTS. If you wish to use stable releases (18.10 and beyond), you SHOULD NOT install that version; if you do, you need to visit NVDA add-ons website and download the stable (18.10) version, which, among other things, will require NVDA 2018.3. For now, 18.09 (the zero version) won’t lock you to LTS channel, so stable version users can use this release.
  • Support for Studio 5.11 is contingent on user feedback. Although Studio 5.20 includes features used to make some add-on features more efficient to implement, there are folks who need to use 5.11 for various reasons. Thus, about 60 days prior to ending support for 5.11 (likely in 2020), I’ll post a notice regarding this matter.
  • There are vast differences between python 2 and 3. Since LTS and stable releases will be powered by Python 2 and 3, respectively, I’ll try my best to backport newer features to 18.09.x (LTS) users if it is possible.
  • Support for 18.09.x will end in December 2019 at the earliest.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

Hi,

The patch should contain the executable. I think, at this point, it might be advisable to contact add-on authors.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Does your patch perhaps also contain this executable?  If so, could you e-mail it to me directly?  Or are you able to advise where I can find it on another computer to copy it?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

In this case, it may have nothing to do with my patch. Based on versions you posted, it looks like it is an incomplete protocol registration (there is an executable that is part of this add-on that’s supposed to take care of it).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

H

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Does your patch perhaps also contain this executable?  If so, could you e-mail it to me directly?  Or are you able to advise where I can find it on another computer to copy it?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

In this case, it may have nothing to do with my patch. Based on versions you posted, it looks like it is an incomplete protocol registration (there is an executable that is part of this add-on that’s supposed to take care of it).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Two add-on releases: ObjPad 18.09, StationPlaylist 18.09 (long-term support) #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Two add-ons have been updated today:

  • ObjPad 18.09: until now, in order to activate a given object, you had to press Space. Starting with 18.09, you can now press Enter to activate the object you are located at. Also, the add-on will speak more languages thanks to work from translators.
  • StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: besides letting you save playlist data to a CSV file, it now opens the door for Add-on Updater to update this add-on. It also includes a feature that’ll become active once NVDA 2018.3 stable version is released: ability to save add-on settings from anywhere by pressing Control+NVDA+C.

 

A note about StationPlaylist Studio 18.09: this is a long-term support release. Version 18.09.x will be powered by Python 2, with a future stable release switching to Python 3 once NVDA does transition to Python 3. Also, if you are using Studio 5.10, 18.09.x is for you.

 

Additional details:

 

  • Later in September, an 18.09.x version will be released, locking the update channel to LTS. If you wish to use stable releases (18.10 and beyond), you SHOULD NOT install that version; if you do, you need to visit NVDA add-ons website and download the stable (18.10) version, which, among other things, will require NVDA 2018.3. For now, 18.09 (the zero version) won’t lock you to LTS channel, so stable version users can use this release.
  • Support for Studio 5.11 is contingent on user feedback. Although Studio 5.20 includes features used to make some add-on features more efficient to implement, there are folks who need to use 5.11 for various reasons. Thus, about 60 days prior to ending support for 5.11 (likely in 2020), I’ll post a notice regarding this matter.
  • There are vast differences between python 2 and 3. Since LTS and stable releases will be powered by Python 2 and 3, respectively, I’ll try my best to backport newer features to 18.09.x (LTS) users if it is possible.
  • Support for 18.09.x will end in December 2019 at the earliest.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 



Does your patch perhaps also contain this executable?  If so, could you e-mail it to me directly?  Or are you able to advise where I can find it on another computer to copy it?


Thanks,
JonathanSent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

In this case, it may have nothing to do with my patch. Based on versions you posted, it looks like it is an incomplete protocol registration (there is an executable that is part of this add-on that’s supposed to take care of it).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

Hi,

In this case, it may have nothing to do with my patch. Based on versions you posted, it looks like it is an incomplete protocol registration (there is an executable that is part of this add-on that’s supposed to take care of it).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?

 

 

Thanks,

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 



That's what I was thinking as well. That might also somehow explain why I can't install your version of the add-on, Joseph.  I am running NVDA 2018.2 and add-on version 2.1 I believe, the latest version from the nvdaremote.com website. Is there a way of manually associating the protocol?


Thanks,
JonathanSent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


NVDA and Searching in Outlook 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi all you Outlook users,

 

Microsoft provides a very powerful search tool in Outlook which is simple as pie for a sighted user to use but not so easy for us screen reader users. I searched the web for advice on how to use the search tools with a screen reader but there was nothing there except simple instructions for sighted users. For this reason, I would like to share my findings after spending most of the day trying out various options which proved successful.

 

To make a simple search of all mailboxes do the following:

1. control+e to open the search edit box

2. Type the text to search for. Do not press enter as the search is instantaneous and the result appears automatically.

3. Shift+tab to move to the table view and explore the results. this puts you on the last message in the table so control+home will put you at the top of the table if that is what you want and then up and down arrows move between messages in the usual way.

 

The scope of the simple search defaults to "All mailboxes".

If you want to change this, then do the following:

1. control+e to open the search edit box

2. Type in the text to search for.

3. Press tab twice to pass over the "close search" button to the list box which defaults to "All Mailboxes".

3. Pres enter to open the list and move up or down with the arrow keys to find the scope that you prefer.

4. press enter to confirm the selection and return to the search dialog which has automatically responded to your adjusted scope.

5. shift+tab three times to move to the "Table View" and see the resulting items.

 

Here is the first difficulty. The results table is actually on the screen below the search dialog. However, it cannot be reached with keystrokes by tabbing forward, which would seem to be the obvious thing to do. Instead The keyboard user must shift back up the search dialog to get out and down to the search results!

 

 

The next complication appears when you try the "advanced find". This is a very powerful search tool and worth getting to know.

 

Here is what to do:

1. Press control+shift+f to open the advanced find dialog

Windows is actually focussing on the edit combo box but NVDA does not focus yet and so says nothing to inform you of this fact. So, just type the search argument immediately after pressing control+shift+f and your text will be in the right place. You can move back to this combo box later to check what you have typed.

2. Tab to the various fields that allow you to limit the search to different parameters. NVDA will speak them perfectly.  You can use various shortcuts such as alt+w or alt+i to go immediately to the fields that you may be familiar with from previous uses of the advanced find.

3. press alt+c to jump back to the edit combo box and see that your text is really in place. NVDA does recognise the edit combo  box this time. You can arrow up and down to find previous search terms that you have used

4. Press alt+n to activate the "Find now" button. You can also reach it by tabbing many times past the various parameters that limit your search.

5. Make sure that you are searching subfolders if your folders are held under the Inbox or they won't be searched.

6. Press enter on "find now" or press alt+n. The word "Stop" appears briefly while the search is actually taking place but the "Find Now" button reappears as soon as the search is complete. This is your only indicator that the search has taken place if there are no results from the search.

7. Press F6 to find the table of search results. If no messages are found, you will be faced with absolutely no information when you press F6. There is no message to say "not found" or any other indication. That is why it is important to open the search criteria as widely as possible to avoid getting no result.

 

The big, big problem in the "advanced find" is to find the search results when using a screen reader! Even the NVDA screen review failed to focus on the results. The only way to get there, after trying every keystroke I could think of, was the F6 key which does the trick brilliantly. However, even the F6 key was silent and did not give any information when the search was unsuccessful.

 

Happy hunting!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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FireFox Discussion

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...>
 

Hi NVDA Group,

- To the person requesting where to find the update settings in
FireFox, FF, I concur with the answer in the previous digest, Advance
Settings.

- What Roger describes and what someone else described concerning a
Google error message is similar to the type of thing that was
occurring when this update installed on my desktop computer two days
ago. NVDA would not announce hyphen, comma, period or other
punctuation keys when pressed, read my auto-signature in email, or
announce letters backspaced over. It would read words as I typed them
though. Other things changed as well until I did system restore going
back to the pre-update status. Not being that tech savvy, frankly, I
don't really know what the h..l to do. Gene's articles may be a good
place to start though, thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
"chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!


Re: NVDA and Tor browser

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

This has already been reported
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27503
I'm not sure whether it can be repaired at the TOR browser end, but they do seem to be aware of it. It is still possible to download the older Tor Browser 7.x and then rename the updater.exe file so that updates don't happen. Obviously, this is not a permanent or reasonable solution, but it works for now.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 9:01 PM
To: NVDA Groups.io mailing list email <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Tor browser

Hi all,
Just yesterday, Tor browser was updated to 8.0 and after the upgrade, NVDA became totally inaccessible with the browser.
I am not sure if this is the problem that Tor has upgraded the underlying Firefox to Esr 60.2 and any possible fix for this at this moment?

Thanks.


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

Hi,

Hmmm, looks like protocol registration routine didn’t work as expected. What NVDA and Remote add-on versions are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] UpdateRemote Add-on issue

 

 

Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.

 

 

JonathanSent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: UpdateRemote Add-on issue

Jonathan Milam
 



Exactly. That's what baffles me.  Just like http and https has protocols for a specific browser to work, something has to allow the nvdaremote to connect and work as well. The strange thing is that the add-on itself works perfectly if I manually connect to each computer from the connect dialog, but absolutely none of my shortcuts will work anymore.  They worked perfectly a couple of days ago, and just stopped for no logical reason.  Not even a reload of the OS fixed it.


JonathanSent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Just FYI, I just installed the NVDA Remote Add-On just to see if anything would show up in the "Apps by Protocol" list afterward and there is no change.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell