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Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Shaun Everiss
 

To be honest, every software package you use is malware.

And its not because its malware, ages back microsoft developed a certification system based on signatures.

While thats used a lot, its either to expensive or only given to certain companies, microsoft uses it, norton does, some other manufacturers of high profile use it but most of us don't.

If your file has a known signature, ie is microsoft software then its fine.

If not it needs to be trusted.

With the degree of certs being dropped similar to people losing their keys quite a lot not to mention all the ssl issues over the past year or so, my view is that we should simply scrap the siganture security system or at least bring the cost down to a point where people would actually use it.

On 9/9/2018 2:40 AM, Mallard wrote:
lol! I wouldn't believe there's a virus in the browser... rather, I'd think there's a tendency on the part of some antivirus software to see a lot of open sourcr or somehow "non-standard" software as potentially harmful.

360 Total Security, which I'm using as an antivirus, kept blocking NVDA, and it took me a good deal oftime and effort to make it believe that NVDA is no malware...


Thanks Gene for your version of Tor. No hurry. Upload whenever you have time.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/09/2018 15:24, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William ha scritto:
Well, please don't spread miss leading information.
If you encounter virus, this is certainly not the problem of the browser , may be you have downloaded from non-trustful sources or may be the person has virus  already in his computer, etc. but there is nothing do with the browser itself.

Gene 於 8/9/2018 8:41 寫道:
You don't have to use it on the dark web nor with any unscrupulous sites.  It's intended use is to allow people who want to browse and make it vary hard to be tracked to do so. You can open any site you wish.  It is especially useful, from what I've read, for people living in countries where the Internet is censored.  You can see sites that are censored because you are using the server Tor provides and not using your Internet provider's server.  It is also much harder to track you.
Don't be frightened by the negative comments in this thread. Read the information on the web site and of course, if you want more information or to verify what you have read, there are all sorts of places to find information.  I'm sure Wikipedia has a comprehensive article about the Tor browser.
Also, I'll put the version in my Drop box account that I was talking about earlier today.  I'll do so either tonight or tomorrow.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* 特種兵 <mailto:afreettears@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2018 7:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?


   It gave me a bad impression, because the first time I saw him was
because my friend had a virus, and the file "readme" said that it would
use this browser to open a web page and pay them.
because The virus encoding your file.
   I hope that you will not encounter this situation, and don't be
stupid enough to pay, because you can't guarantee that they will return
the decoding file to you.
   I have seen this virus two or three times, so I don't like this
browser very much. It always makes me think that it is also an accomplice.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tim 於 2018/09/08 7:41 寫道:
take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on
windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If
you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You
will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com
<mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>> wrote:

When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature
of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.


On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu
<mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much,
that I
gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I
had a
much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck





Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:
What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
for
Windows 10

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Mallard
<mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to
use the
programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity
than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in
audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie
Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Thanks a lot. I've downloaded it.

Ciao, take care!

O&O

Il 08/09/2018 18:19, Gene ha scritto:
Here is the link to what may be the last accessible version of the Tor browser currently.  I'm not saying the current or later versions won't become accessible, but at present the current version may not be.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cfl7rgvn4cz9y43/torbrowser-install-7.5.4_en-US.exe?dl=1
Gene
Question about Dictation Bridge

Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...>
 

Hello everyone,

My Name is Terrie Terlau from Kentucky in the United States. I just joined this list and am hoping someone can help me get started using Dictation Bridge. I have installed the plugin.  In the NVDA Tools menu, I see Install Dragon Commands. Does this mean that I need Dragon? If so, could someone tell me what version of Dragon works best with Dictation Bridge. I am running Windows 7 and the latest version of NVDA. Dragon should I get

Thank you very much for your help!

Best regards,

Terrie Terlau

terrieter@...

 

 

 
Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Gene
 

Here is the link to what may be the last accessible version of the Tor browser currently.  I'm not saying the current or later versions won't become accessible, but at present the current version may not be.
 
Gene
 
Re: latest nvda that works on windows xp?

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Hello The Wolf,

You mentioned making a linux box. I'd like to do that with one of my old ones. Can you point me to stuff to read so I can learn how to do it? Thanks.

Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 12:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?


Helolo a neighbor gave me her old windows xp machine and I need to get the music and other stuff off her machine that she wants

can any one tell me what is the latest version of nvda works with xp and if some one could direct me to a portable version of it?

I plan on at least trying to put windows7 on to this machine I have no plans on keeping windows xp on the machine

if windows7 will not run I will turn it in to a linux box or something

thanks

Hank


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Re: Expand combo boxes in Tapin Radio scheduler

Peter Beasley
 

                Tell him to try alt down arrow.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: George McCoy
Sent: 08 September 2018 16:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Expand combo boxes in Tapin Radio scheduler

 

A friend of mine is running the last free version of Tapin Radio with

recording capability, version 10, I think.

 

He can't expand the combo box in the scheduler that allows him to pick

the day of the week.

 

Can anyone help?

 

 

Thanks very much,

 

George

 

 

 

 
Expand combo boxes in Tapin Radio scheduler

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

A friend of mine is running the last free version of Tapin Radio with recording capability, version 10, I think.

He can't expand the combo box in the scheduler that allows him to pick the day of the week.

Can anyone help?


Thanks very much,

George
Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

lol! I wouldn't believe there's a virus in the browser... rather, I'd think there's a tendency on the part of some antivirus software to see a lot of open sourcr or somehow "non-standard" software as potentially harmful.

360 Total Security, which I'm using as an antivirus, kept blocking NVDA, and it took me a good deal oftime and effort to make it believe that NVDA is no malware...


Thanks Gene for your version of Tor. No hurry. Upload whenever you have time.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 08/09/2018 15:24, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William ha scritto:
Well, please don't spread miss leading information.
If you encounter virus, this is certainly not the problem of the browser , may be you have downloaded from non-trustful sources or may be the person has virus  already in his computer, etc. but there is nothing do with the browser itself.

Gene 於 8/9/2018 8:41 寫道:
You don't have to use it on the dark web nor with any unscrupulous sites.  It's intended use is to allow people who want to browse and make it vary hard to be tracked to do so. You can open any site you wish.  It is especially useful, from what I've read, for people living in countries where the Internet is censored.  You can see sites that are censored because you are using the server Tor provides and not using your Internet provider's server.  It is also much harder to track you.
Don't be frightened by the negative comments in this thread.  Read the information on the web site and of course, if you want more information or to verify what you have read, there are all sorts of places to find information.  I'm sure Wikipedia has a comprehensive article about the Tor browser.
Also, I'll put the version in my Drop box account that I was talking about earlier today.  I'll do so either tonight or tomorrow.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* 特種兵 <mailto:afreettears@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2018 7:15 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?


   It gave me a bad impression, because the first time I saw him was
because my friend had a virus, and the file "readme" said that it would
use this browser to open a web page and pay them.
because The virus encoding your file.
   I hope that you will not encounter this situation, and don't be
stupid enough to pay, because you can't guarantee that they will return
the decoding file to you.
   I have seen this virus two or three times, so I don't like this
browser very much. It always makes me think that it is also an accomplice.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tim 於 2018/09/08 7:41 寫道:
take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on
windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If
you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You
will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com
<mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>> wrote:

When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of
the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.


On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu
<mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much,
that I
gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck





Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:
What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> on behalf of Mallard
<mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to
use the
programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity
than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in
audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie
Re: NVDA and Tor browser

Aman Singer
 

Hi,

Yes, tor browser updates are automatic. You can, to my knowledge, disable them in the same way as from Firefox itself, tools, options, advanced, updates, never check for updates.
I hope that's of use.
Aman

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 11:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Tor browser

hi.
is updating for toor automatic or not?
if it is, is there a setting to turn automatic update off like preferences of firefox?
thanks.

On 9/7/18, Aman Singer <aman.singer@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

This has already been reported
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27503
I'm not sure whether it can be repaired at the TOR browser end, but
they do seem to be aware of it. It is still possible to download the
older Tor Browser 7.x and then rename the updater.exe file so that
updates don't happen. Obviously, this is not a permanent or reasonable
solution, but it works for now.
Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 9:01 PM
To: NVDA Groups.io mailing list email <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Tor browser

Hi all,
Just yesterday, Tor browser was updated to 8.0 and after the upgrade,
NVDA became totally inaccessible with the browser.
I am not sure if this is the problem that Tor has upgraded the
underlying Firefox to Esr 60.2 and any possible fix for this at this moment?

Thanks.










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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Well, please don't spread miss leading information.
If you encounter virus, this is certainly not the problem of the browser , may be you have downloaded from non-trustful sources or may be the person has virus  already in his computer, etc. but there is nothing do with the browser itself.

Gene 於 8/9/2018 8:41 寫道:

You don't have to use it on the dark web nor with any unscrupulous sites.  It's intended use is to allow people who want to browse and make it vary hard to be tracked to do so.  You can open any site you wish.  It is especially useful, from what I've read, for people living in countries where the Internet is censored.  You can see sites that are censored because you are using the server Tor provides and not using your Internet provider's server.  It is also much harder to track you.
 
Don't be frightened by the negative comments in this thread.  Read the information on the web site and of course, if you want more information or to verify what you have read, there are all sorts of places to find information.  I'm sure Wikipedia has a comprehensive article about the Tor browser.
 
Also, I'll put the version in my Drop box account that I was talking about earlier today.  I'll do so either tonight or tomorrow.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: 特種兵
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?


   It gave me a bad impression, because the first time I saw him was
because my friend had a virus, and the file "readme" said that it would
use this browser to open a web page and pay them.
because The virus encoding your file.
   I hope that you will not encounter this situation, and don't be
stupid enough to pay, because you can't guarantee that they will return
the decoding file to you.
   I have seen this virus two or three times, so I don't like this
browser very much. It always makes me think that it is also an accomplice.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tim 於 2018/09/08 7:41 寫道:
> take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
> It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
> I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
> Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.
>
>> On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>>
>> When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.
>>
>>
>> On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Lino,
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I
>>> gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
>>> much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...
>>>
>>> Quack-Quadk,
>>>
>>> Ollie The Duck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:
>>>> What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
>>>> Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
>>>> happy downloading.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>> Windows 10
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard
>>>> <mallard@...>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> *Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the
>>>> programme?
>>>> Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
>>>> real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
>>>> lack of text?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
>>>> Ciao,
>>>> Ollie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Oh, no... I'd never use a credit card on that browser...

After all the info I got from this list I'll simply put my curiosity to sleep for another few years... lol!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 08/09/2018 01:41, tim ha scritto:
take it from someone that uses that browser. Don’t use it on windows you do not have enough protection to be safe.
It is used for dark web browser and every site will track you. If you do want to use it on any op use a VPN.
I would check it on youtube search for dark web or deep web. You will find stuff that is past real and is not tv.
Also don’t use any credit cards they mostly use crept coin.

On Sep 7, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

When I used it as a proxy, it was very slow. That is the nature of the browser, and it is just something we will have to deal with. No matter how many prophecies are online, it will still be slow. I was only getting maybe about 128kbps down and up. It was beautiful.


On September 7, 2018 11:13:18 "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Ciao Lino,


I tried a few years ago, but it slowed my machine down so much, that I
gave up. I thought it was me doing something wrong, but then I had a
much slower computer, with only a couple gb of ram...

Quack-Quadk,

Ollie The Duck





Il 07/09/2018 19:57, Lino Morales ha scritto:
What up Duck. From what I’ve been told Tore works like Firefox or
Waterfox. I’ve thought about using it myself a while. Have fun and
happy downloading.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mallard
<mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Friday, September 7, 2018 4:26:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the
programme?
Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of
real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for
lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie
Re: latest nvda that works on windows xp?

Mohamed
 

Interestingly, older downloads are redirecting to SourceForge now, I don't recall them ever doing that previously.

On 9/8/2018 5:06 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
There's a general formula you can use to work out the download link for any
version of NVDA from 2013.1 onwards.

To download release number N (where N is between 1 and 4) from year YYYY
(where YYYY is 2016, 2017, 2018 etc), the download link is:

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/YYYY.N/nvda_YYYY.N.exe

Simply substitute the year and release number you want into the above URL and
you can download whichever version you want.

I don't know about getting a version earlier than 2013.1, but I seriously
doubt anyone really needs those.


Antony.

On Saturday 08 September 2018 at 10:42:16, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

You should find, as long as The version of xp is fully up to date that the
mentioned version of nvda will in fact work very well. A lot of the add ons
will still work. Quite a lot of care was taken for that release as I
recall to make as bug free as possible as it was the last one.

Perhaps somebody could unforget the link.
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?

I don't have a slot to put the drive in my other desktop other wise I
would

I also don't have full use of one of my hands and do not feel confortable
with remove computer parts

On 9/7/2018 11:21 PM, Isaac wrote:
can you just take out the drive and grab the stuff of of it?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?


Hi,


NVDA 2017.3

Le 08/09/2018 à 07:59, The Wolf a écrit :
Helolo a neighbor gave me her old windows xp machine and I need to get
the music and other stuff off her machine that she wants

can any one tell me what is the latest version of nvda works with xp
and if some one could direct me to a portable version of it?

I plan on at least trying to put windows7 on to this machine I have no
plans on keeping windows xp on the machine

if windows7 will not run I will turn it in to a linux box or something

thanks

Hank
Re: keyboard layouts

Gene
 

I really dislike the laptop layout.  If you look at the commands, using the quick keys reference in help, you can see what you think.  My opinion, after looking a bit but not that much because I really didn't like what I saw, is that the desktop layout is much more consistent and logical at least in review commands and probably in many other places.  Even if it is more consistent and logical in some or many places, I won't learn an inconsistent screen review layout and probably some or many other things when all I have to do is buy a cheap USB numpad and be able to use the desktop layout on any laptop.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 6:16 AM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard layouts

which keyboard layout is easier to use, dekstop or laptop?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

Re: keyboard layouts

Antony Stone
 

I would suggest that if you have a numeric keypad, the desktop layout is
simpler and provides access to slightly more features.

However, in the same way that "the best camera in the world is the one you
have with you" and "the best programming language is the one you know how to
use", I would say that the NVDA keyboard layout which is easiest to use is the
one you know best and can work with most efficiently.

This is one of those subjective questions where different people will have
different opinions, which may not apply to you in the same way.


Regards,


Antony.

On Saturday 08 September 2018 at 13:16:12, Sociohack AC wrote:

which keyboard layout is easier to use, dekstop or laptop?
--
Regards,
Sociohack
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Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

Gene
 

The settings interface has been changed in newer versions of Chrome.  I have worked with the new interface a little to get a sense of how useable it is.  It is not well implemented for a blind keyboard user in some places in terms of seeing how to use it without experimentation.  But it can be used and, once you have instruction, it isn't difficult, just not intuitive, in certain places.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion

i learned how to do this in chrome and i believe that making exception
for running javascript in chrome without addon, is only advantage of
chrome over firefox!
but in newer version of chrome, using its settings unfortunately is
difficult, because google chrome settings is changed since version 59
and became material and fortunately i dont use it!
my selection is chrome 48 or 49 which support windows xp.

On 9/8/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You can't do it in Firefox without using an add-on.  You can in Chrome.
> I'll have to take notes before I write the steps.  I assume you want to
> know.  If you don't, let me know.  If I don't hear from you, I'll make notes
> and sent instructions.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 2:37 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion
>
>
> the last version of chrome which supports windows xp is version 49
> which is for februrary oof 2016!
> i use it, but it cant open some computer websites unfortunately!
> also, i mean that firefox needs addon for javascript for making exception.
> for example: i wish to turn off javascript for all websites, but allow
> it only for four sites!
> how can i do this in firefox without installing addon?
>
> On 9/8/18, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:
>> I should update my comments about noscript. The one issue I've noticed
>> with it is that you can't identify sites, at least I can't anyway. So
>> for example, suppose I'm on a site and pick noscript. I get to the top
>> and start going down the page, and I get an untrusted radio button, a
>> temp trusted radio button, and so on. When I get through all of the
>> stuff for one site, if I keep going down I get another untrusted radio
>> button, and so on. So I know that's for a different site, but I haven't
>> seen a way to find out what all of the sites are that it wants to have
>> permissions for. To be fair though, I haven't really done a lot of
>> looking around to find out if they show up. So if anybody figures it
>> out, do let us all know.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: keyboard layouts

zahra
 

i believe desktop is easier, i never used laptop, but if someone's
laptop has not numpad keys, he she should select to use laptop
keyboard.
i use desktop keyboard in my acer laptop.

On 9/8/18, Sociohack AC <acsociopath@gmail.com> wrote:
which keyboard layout is easier to use, dekstop or laptop?
--
Regards,
Sociohack



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up

zahra
 

hi brian.
the last version of seamonkey now is 2.49.4 which its security fixes
are based on firefox 52.9
also, you can read its releasenotes hear.
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/
one question, that does it support webvisum because its based on firefox 52esr?

On 9/6/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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What is the status of Seamonkey these days?

Others would suggest getting used to Chrome which today apparently has a new

skin look but should not affect the screenreader use.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Issues Follow-up


Well if this is mozilla and it could be, then these regressions need
reporting.

I'd personally use waterfox myself which still works.



On 9/6/2018 11:36 PM, David Russell wrote:
Hello Members,

I just read through the recent digest with exchanges between Gene and
Shaun.

The reply by Shaun best describes what occurred. I was at
dictionary.com and had just sent in an email request to subscribe.
Moments later, I heard a beep tone and was informed FireFox was
updating. It took a few moments.
I then had the option to change search engines, or do not change
search engines, and I chose do not change.
I was somewhat in surprise at all this occurring.
I googled something about updates and learned that malicious updates
are on the rise as Gene indicated.
Scrolling through the program menu, my browser was now identified as
just FireFox not Mozilla FireFox.
Settings were changed.
Keyboard functions such as backspace, hyphen, period, comma, were not
read when pressed. My auto-signature was not read when in email. I had
to forward tab once when going to a website to access the link wanted.
Shall I say more?

I later changed the update criteria in advance settings after
restoring my computer to an earlier time. Now, updates are told to me
when they want to occur and I either say yes or ask me later.

I cannot ascertain for certain if this is Mozilla or a hack.
Nonetheless, It appears Mozilla as known, is returned. It's supposed
update occurred in November 2017.
No background service is doing any installations for me under the
current criteria. I'll be darn careful and use my MS Security
Essentials regularly.





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
keyboard layouts

Akshaya Choudhary
 

which keyboard layout is easier to use, dekstop or laptop?
--
Regards,
Sociohack
Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

zahra
 

i learned how to do this in chrome and i believe that making exception
for running javascript in chrome without addon, is only advantage of
chrome over firefox!
but in newer version of chrome, using its settings unfortunately is
difficult, because google chrome settings is changed since version 59
and became material and fortunately i dont use it!
my selection is chrome 48 or 49 which support windows xp.

On 9/8/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You can't do it in Firefox without using an add-on. You can in Chrome.
I'll have to take notes before I write the steps. I assume you want to
know. If you don't, let me know. If I don't hear from you, I'll make notes
and sent instructions.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 2:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


the last version of chrome which supports windows xp is version 49
which is for februrary oof 2016!
i use it, but it cant open some computer websites unfortunately!
also, i mean that firefox needs addon for javascript for making exception.
for example: i wish to turn off javascript for all websites, but allow
it only for four sites!
how can i do this in firefox without installing addon?

On 9/8/18, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:
I should update my comments about noscript. The one issue I've noticed
with it is that you can't identify sites, at least I can't anyway. So
for example, suppose I'm on a site and pick noscript. I get to the top
and start going down the page, and I get an untrusted radio button, a
temp trusted radio button, and so on. When I get through all of the
stuff for one site, if I keep going down I get another untrusted radio
button, and so on. So I know that's for a different site, but I haven't
seen a way to find out what all of the sites are that it wants to have
permissions for. To be fair though, I haven't really done a lot of
looking around to find out if they show up. So if anybody figures it
out, do let us all know.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: Antivirus, antimalware and nvda remote helper inject

zahra
 

nvda helper remote is not nvda remote addon!
its one part of nvda that i believe it handles using browsers for its
users and maybe has other functionality that i dont know.

On 9/8/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials is still working on windows 7 here. I also
manually update and run superantispyware. A word of warning though, as the
latest installer seems to need screen navigation to find the I Agree button

when the text is displayed, and you need to launch the product from the
try for it to be in focus for normal nvda usage. I suspect they have messed

up the mssa somewhere when it auto launches or is started from the desktop
though of course screen nave and nvda and keypad enter still action stuff
OK, its just a bit awkward.


Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "farhan israk" <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 8:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] Antivirus, antimalware and nvda remote helper inject


Which antivirus and antimalware should I use for windows 7? Whenever I
close or restart nvda, nvda shows nvda remote helper injecter has already
died or not responding. I don't have remote add-on.







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
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