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Re: just became a blind mice megamall member

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

This site is really great the dvs movies are also in stereo so I can down load them and put them on a flash drive and play them on my nls player.

Brian Sackrider

On 9/9/2018 5:57 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ah very interesting. Thanks for that link. Seems to be quite a bit of stuff there.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: September 9, 2018 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

You can access most likely the same described movies without having to give up your email address by visiting this site:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/index.php?page=Described_Movies

On 9/9/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member
because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of
useful stuff.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member



Hi, everyone,



Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site
not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said
that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in
browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both
firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all
of us--not to jump to conclusions.



Rosemarie










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Re: Windows OCR update in nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Robert,

As Brian noted, NVDA uses Microsoft's built-in OCR in Windows 10 (which is why it is only built-in on Windows 10 and you need the add-on for earlier Windows versions).

Microsoft are evolving Windows 10 with their regular updates, and presumably this also involves improving the OCR.

In the meantime, have you got an example image or link which isn't working for you?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Inwindows 10 though this is all down to Microsofts cloud OCR. All nvda does is tap into it as far as I'm aware.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 5:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows OCR update in nvda


Hi, wondering if there is development or advancement on the Windows OCR in nvda or with the future release for recognition of graphics with text content?
It's been a while I have not seen update from this and tried to test this as well to beta version of nvda and unlikely the OCR function still not working perfectly because some text could read and some text could not recognize fully like giving such blank when pressing the Insert/NVDA plus R


Also, could the OCR recognizes fully the graphics for the image itself? Thanks.
Robert Mendoza












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Re: Braille command for continuous read with NVDA.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Kim,

The keystroke to read from the current point onwards is either NVDA+down arrow, if using desktop keyboard layout, or NVDA+a if using laptop keybpard layout.  The NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK depending on your setup.  Basically desktop keyboard layout assumes you have a number pad, and uses that for a number of commands, particularly object navigation and the review cursor.  Laptop layout assumes you don't have a number pad and reassigns those keystrokes, in the process moving some other keystrokes around.

Press NVDA+control+k to open the keybpard settings page where you can change your NVDA key and / or your NVDA keyboard layout.

And as Jason answered, you can get to the full list of keyboard commands from NVDA"s help menu (NVDA+n, then h, then arrow through the options).  The "Commands Quick Reference" document is basically all the keystrokes pulled from the User Guide.

You might also be interested in the "Basic Training for NVDA" module, which walks through many of the features of NVDA, but in more detail than the User Guide, and with step-by-step, practical activities to complete to help you cement your knowledge of each: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 1:59 AM, GTT Coordinator, Canadian Council Of The Blind <gttprogram@...> wrote:

Hi all.

I have just recently been using NVDA with a focus braille display and love it.  I have the braille extender add on and I have been able to emulate many keyboard commands from the display but  I can’t seem to figure out how to do a continuous read.

Also, is there anywhere where I can see a list of the commands?

Thanks for any help. Kim

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the Focus 40 Blue

 

As said in manual, install the drivers, connect it, via USB or Bluetooth

and select it in NVDA...

 

Rui

 

 

Às 15:57 de 07/09/2018, Hermann-Josef Kurzen escreveu:

> Hello there,

>

> I would like to use the Focus 40 Blue Braille device with NVDA.

> It is mentioned in the manual, but I don't know, waht's to do.

>

> Can anybody help please?

>

>

> Greetings - Hermann

>

>  

>

>

> ■■■

>

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Re: NVDA and Searching in Outlook 2016

 

This is the chunk on Outlook (and I did it using Outlook 2010 when I wrote it up, but I don't believe much has changed in 2013 and 2016) I wrote up when working with a client several years ago and that forms a segment I use to create personalized "shortcut sheets" for clients now:
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Microsoft Outlook

 

To Delete a Message that you’ve just finished reading:  Hit ALT+H,D when you’re in the reading window and it will delete the message and throw you back to your inbox.

 

To Delete a Message in your inbox without opening it to read it:  When JAWS starts reading the e-mail header and subject in the list from the inbox just hit delete if you want to delete that message.  It will be deleted and you will be thrown on to the next message in the inbox.

 

Two Methods for Using Advanced Search features to find specific e-mail messages, step-by-step:

Method 1

1.     Navigate to the folder in Outlook that you wish to search for specific messages, e.g., inbox, sent, etc.  Make sure you’re in that folder for the correct e-mail account you wish to search, too.

2.     Hit CTRL+SHIFT+F to bring up the Advanced Search Dialog box. This dialog box has three separate tabs associated with it:  Message, More Choices, and Advanced.  The Message tab is what’s showing when the dialog opens.  You can shift between dialog box tabs by hitting CTRL+TAB at any time.

3.     Message Tab has the following fields and dropdown/combo boxes, in the order that follows.  You need only enter information related to what you are actually trying to search for, leave the others blank:

a.     Search for the word(s): Combo box where you enter the word(s) you’re trying to find.  It searches for those words based upon the choice from the dropdown box described in item ‘b’ that comes next.

b.     In:  Dropdown with three choices:  subject field only | subject field and message body | frequently-used text fields.

c.     From… Button – Used only if you wish to choose who the message is from using your Contacts.  If you do not have Contacts or the sender is not in your Contacts, then go to item ‘d’, the edit box for “From” searching.

d.     From Edit Box  Enter all or part of the sender’s name or e-mail address that the message you’re looking for came from.

e.     Sent To… Button – Used only if you wish to choose who the message was sent to using your Contacts.  If you do not have Contacts or the person you sent to is not in your Contacts, then go to item ‘f’, the edit box for “Sent to” searching.

f.       Sent to Edit Box  Enter all or part of the recipient’s name or e-mail address that the message you’re looking for was sent to.

g.     Where I am checkbox.  If checked, gives you access to item ‘h’, the “Where I am” dropdown box.

h.    Where I am dropdown box.  Three choices:  the only person on the To line | on the To line with other people | on the CC line with other people.

i.       Time dropdown box, used in conjunction with item ‘j’, time criterion dropdown.  Has six choices regarding what time you want to search on:  none (default) | received | sent | due | expires | created | modified.  Some of these choices are related to tasks or appointments, not e-mail messages.

j.       Time criterion dropdown:  Seven choices for e-mail related searches:  Anytime | Yesterday | Today | in the last 7 days | Last Week | This Week | Last Month.

4.    More Choices Tab  has the following items in the following order:

a.    Categories. . . button and Categories combo box pair.  Allows you to choose a category from your predefined list if you use categories.

b.    Only items that are checkbox and dropdown box pair.  If you check the checkbox, you can choose from the following two choices in the dropdown box:  unread (default) | read.

c.     Only items with checkbox and dropdown box pair.  If you check the checkbox, you can choose from the following two choices in the dropdown box:  one or more attachments (default) | no attachments.

d.    Whose importance is checkbox and dropdown box pair.  If you check the checkbox, you can choose from the following three choices in the dropdown box:  normal (default) | high | low.

e.    Only items which checkbox and dropdown box pair.  If you check the checkbox, you can choose from the following four choices in the dropdown box:  are flagged by me (default) | are marked  completed |  are flagged by someone else | have no flag.

f.      Match case checkbox.  Makes search on words case sensitive.

g.    Size (kilobytes) dropdown box and low and high size numbers triad.  Default is “doesn’t matter” and if that’s left alone you have no access to the low and high size numbers.  Other choices allow you to specify the smallest (low) and largest (high) size you wish to search for, as appropriate for the choice.  Those choices are:  equals (approximately) | between | less than | greater than.

5.    Advanced Tab – so seldom used I will not discuss it here.

6.    Hit either Enter, or ALT+N to perform the search based on the various criteria you have entered in the dialog.  If results are returned, hit F6 to go to the list of found messages.

Method 2

1.     Navigate to the folder in Outlook that you wish to search for specific messages, e.g., inbox, sent, etc.  Make sure you’re in that folder for the correct e-mail account you wish to search, too.

2.     Hit CTRL+E to get yourself in to the search edit box

3.     Type in the following search operators, in whatever combination is appropriate to narrow down the messages returned to as few as possible, but without eliminating messages you might want:

a.     to: – Enter a partial or full name or e-mail address between the parenthesis.  For example, to:britechguy, would return only messages sent to a person with “britechguy” as part of their e-mail address. 

b.     from: – Same as to:, but looks at who the e-mail was from instead.

c.     hasattachments:yes|no – If you enter “yes” after the hasattachments: operator only messages that have attachments will be returned.  If you enter “no” then only messages without attachments will be returned.

d.     subject: – Enter a keyword or several keywords that will be searched for in the Subject of the e-mail.  Only those messages with the keyword(s) in the subject will be returned.

e.     received: - Used to filter messages based on when you received them.  Immediately after the colon on the received: operator you will enter one of the following words or two-word phrases

                                                             i.      today

                                                           ii.      yesterday

                                                        iii.      this week

                                                        iv.      last week

                                                           v.      this month

                                                        vi.      last month

                                                      vii.      this year

                                                   viii.      last year

See the Microsoft Support page entitled, Learn to narrow your search criteria for better searches in Outlook, for more details regarding Outlook Search Operators you can use.

 

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Re: NVDA and Searching in Outlook 2016

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Cearbhall,

I use the advanced search all the time. To change locations, when in the
advanced find dialogue, activate the button labeled "browse" and then check
and uncheck the various folders that show up.

Pranav


Re: Question about Dictation Bridge

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Terrie,
My answers are inline.
Thank you for this information. I am working with someone who is blind and
can't use a keyboard, and I have a few more questions. Do you know if there
is documentation showing how much control of the PC you get with TextBridge
and Dragon 15?
PL] dictationBridge will give you full hands free control of the screen
reader. Dragon does give you full hands free control of the pc.

Can Dragon open applications such as email and Word?
PL] Yes. This is a dragon function. You say "start microsoft word" for
instance to start word. To launch e-mail, you say "start outlook" or "start
e-mail" I think.

Can you move through a list of emails or files in a folder with Dragon
commands?
PL] Yes. Right now, if using dictationBridge, you say "press down arrow" or
"press right arrow" or "press up arrow" to move through a list depending on
what keys you press on the keyboard to navigate through the list.
If this info is in a document, where might I find it?
PL] You find most of this info in Dragon's help. You can find
dictationBridge commands by looking at the dictationBridge documentation.
The best thing to do with commands is to look at the Dragon command browser.

Pranav


Re: Rosie - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I just typed this up for another person but this is done on a windows 10
machine same idea for earlier versions of windows but ddone a rough step
by step of what to do.


Where i also mentioned jjj on the usb stick been labeled this is more if
you do not use narrator to start nvda . In my case i can use the Windows
key + letter E to bring up file manager which shows my drives then press
the letter J so it jumps down to the usb stick then press the enter key
to go into it then the letter N for the nvda directory then the enter
key to go into it then the letter N for the nvda.exe file then the enter
key then nvda will start up.



The way i like to start nvda on a computer from a usb stick is first to
format your usb stick so there is no data on it. it will give you the
option to label the USBstick so call this jjj then i think you format it.


After you have done that with your installed version of nvda press the
nvda key + letter N arrow down to tools a sub menu will come off ithen
arrow down to create portable copy then press the enter key. make sure
your usb stick is in the computer before you do this.


It will then land you in a editable area if you already know what letter
it asigned to it you could type in the following. for example e:\nvda
then tab until you hear copy current configuration you can check this
box with the space bar there is also another check box which you can
check called Start the new portable copy after creation

then tab to continue then press the enter key wait a little while then
it will put the files into the nvda directory and when finished a
message will come up saying it has been done.


If you do not know what the letter of the cd drive was a signed in that
editable area mentioned before tab to the browse button then press the
enter key or space bar will do it.


Now shift/tab a few times until you hear nvda say tree view. Mine i hear
C:\ drive. Use the arrow keys to point it towards your usb stick. In
most cases it is the e:\ drive. You will then need to create a directory
called nvda.


If done correctly when you tab a couple of times you should then hear
the portable directory now is called e:\nvda make sure the 2 boxes are
checked it is up to you what you do then tab to continue then press the
enter key and wait until it is made.


Depending how you want to start it on a new computer if you are new to
it you can use narrator start him up on my windows 10 machine is is the
ctrl key + windows key + enter key. When he starts up locate where your
drives are  locate the usb stick then find the older called nvda then
find the nvda.exe file then he will start up nvda. Then you can turn off
narrator just alt/tab until you hear narrator then use alt + f4 key to
close it.


there are other ways of doing it that can be found on my nvda audio
tutorials page on my website. There is a link in this email to my website.


Hope the above helps.



Gene nz

On 10/09/2018 3:40 AM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
I can't seem to find the tutorial about putting NVDA on a memory
stick. Which section is it in?

Thanks,

Nance

On 9/9/18, Nancy Shackelford <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Rosie!

Nance

On 9/9/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Nance,

Gene NZ has a tutorial on how to put NVDA on a USB stick. Go to
www.accessibilitycentral.net. Hope this helps.
--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--




Re: just became a blind mice megamall member

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Ah very interesting. Thanks for that link. Seems to be quite a bit of stuff there.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: September 9, 2018 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

You can access most likely the same described movies without having to give up your email address by visiting this site:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/index.php?page=Described_Movies

On 9/9/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member
because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of
useful stuff.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member



Hi, everyone,



Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site
not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said
that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in
browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both
firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all
of us--not to jump to conclusions.



Rosemarie











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Re: just became a blind mice megamall member

Laz
 

You can access most likely the same described movies without having to
give up your email address by visiting this site:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/index.php?page=Described_Movies

On 9/9/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member
because
of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of useful stuff.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member



Hi, everyone,



Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site not
being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said that the
site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in browse mode. Then
you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both firefox and internet
explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all of us--not to jump to
conclusions.



Rosemarie










--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Players, Accessible phones,
Bluetooth devices, and accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@talkingmp3players.com
Phone: 727-498-0121
Skype: lazmesa
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr


Re: just became a blind mice megamall member

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

It’s great. Even though I could wish for more classic horror/exploitation/weird titles.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: September 9, 2018 5:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

 

Hi guys!

I got on board because of the movie vault as well LOL!

David Moore

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

 

Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of useful stuff.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

 

Hi, everyone,

 

Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all of us--not to jump to conclusions.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 


Re: just became a blind mice megamall member

David Moore
 

Hi guys!

I got on board because of the movie vault as well LOL!

David Moore

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

 

Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of useful stuff.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

 

Hi, everyone,

 

Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all of us--not to jump to conclusions.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 


Re: Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If you do it on a CD nvda must be in a directory called nvda and there
is a autorun.inf file that must be installed in the root directory of
the CD.


Also in later versions of windows now you have to go into the control
panel then autoplay part of it make sure the check box is checked to see
all devices and the following turned on  right down near the bottom
called Software and games Install or run program from your media



If you look under the nvda audio tutorials page there are different ways
of starting nvda also putting it onto a CD and USB stick.


You will need to jump down by headings to you hear it either for a cd or
usb stick.


Gene nz

On 10/09/2018 1:33 AM, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
I put this on a CD, but it won't work in my laptop, for which I need
voice to fix; audio got disabled; I hoped to use NVDA with my
TripleTalk device, but portable is not doing anything. Are there
special things to know about making a portable copy? Does it need to
be on a DVD instead of a CD? Any and all help appreciated.

Nance


Re: Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

Mohamed
 

Actually I think that statement means that you can run it from a CD, but if you want to do that you need to run it from the installer, not the portable package that's created from tools>create portable copy.

On 9/9/2018 9:37 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
Section 3 of the documentation for NVDA
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html says:

"If you wish to copy NVDA onto read-only media such as a CD, you should just
copy the download package. Running the portable version directly from read-
only media is not supported at this time."

So, you need to use a USB stick instead.


Regards,

Antony.

On Sunday 09 September 2018 at 15:33:05, Nancy Shackelford wrote:

I put this on a CD, but it won't work in my laptop, for which I need
voice to fix; audio got disabled; I hoped to use NVDA with my
TripleTalk device, but portable is not doing anything. Are there
special things to know about making a portable copy? Does it need to
be on a DVD instead of a CD? Any and all help appreciated.

Nance


Re: Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

Roger Stewart
 

I installed this thing, but it doesn't appear to show up in the list of synths in nvda.  I only see eSpeak NG and speech player in eSpeak.  I see nothing of eSpeak SAPI 5.  Am I missing something?  Also, I wonder if this will work with Narrator?

Thanks.

Roger

On 9/9/2018 4:17 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
According to https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/files/espeak/espeak-1.48/
the file setup_espeak-1.48.04.exe contains a SAPI5 version.

Direct download link is
https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/files/espeak/espeak-1.48/setup_espeak-1.48.04.exe/download

Note: I've not tried this out myself.

Antony.

On Sunday 09 September 2018 at 11:08:31, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

Is this still available? I rather want it to be available in other software
including Jaws and some self voicing and mp3 creation software so we can
use the same voice somebody likes.
And no rude comments about anyone liking Espeak please, each to their own.
Brian


Re: NVDA 2018.3 beta 3 hangs after closing System Information application

Jason White
 

By way of update, I haven't yet been able to reproduce this with add-ons disabled.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 7:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3 beta 3 hangs after closing System Information application

In this case, pressing Alt+tab to try to switch to any of the open windows didn't work for me. I can't remember what else I tried.

I'll set aside some time and attempt to reproduce.

On 9/4/18, 08:37, "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Well I often see a similar effect if I close Word, but the freeze is less
than five seconds normally, and yes its always been around on xp and 7. Even
on fast machines so I'm thinking it might be bit of a red herring. I can
look at a log and find quite a few core frozen in stack items, but often
they are so fleeting that if they cause any problem, it might be no reading
of a web page or no indication of where you are, ie unknown, and you can
usually recover it by making things refresh.
Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3 beta 3 hangs after closing System
Information application


I'm not sure this is a problem. It is very common, when I close a program
that I am not actually in any program. I may hear something when I read the
title bar suchh as the name of the program I was just in or some related
name. If I go to the desktop, everything is as it should be and if I alt
tab around, everything is normal with no window open that shouldn't be.
This is with Windows XP. I use Windows 7 but not with enough use or variety
of use to say if this happens in that version.

Is the original problem as I described or is it that NVDA stops speaking no
matter what you do and you must close and run it again?

Gene
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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 8:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3 beta 3 hangs after closing System
Information application


Just tried to duplicate this. Indeed after closing the system information
with alt f4 it seems that NVDA goes silent. after the alt f4 is pressed
Nvda says unknown. Sighted help says I am back to the desktop and nothing
is shown besides my normal desktop. However if you hit windows key m
speech returns. Seems that something is open that is minimized by windows
key m.


On 9/3/2018 7:56 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Takuya,


Do you have any (other) addons installed, and if so, have you tried
restarting with add-ons disabled? If so, have you checked that you are
using the most up to date version of any addons?


And finally, just to check, does this happen immediately after updating
either NVDA or Windows, and if so, does it persist after rebooting the
computer?


If you also could send me a copy of your full log, ideally at Debug level,
I can have a look as well.

I forgot to mention previously, but more information on the log is
available at: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps




Kind regards


Quentin.










On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Takuya Nishimoto <nishimotz@gmail.com>
wrote:

I have reported regarding similar issue.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8434

It was difficult to reproduce on other machines than the specific
environment.

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2018年9月4日(火) 4:08 Jason White via Groups.Io
<jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>:

>
> After using System Information on Windows 10 1803 (all up to date),
and closing the application with Alt+F4, I experienced a hang in NVDA 2018.3
beta 3.
>
>
>
> The log file in my local temporary directory contains the following.
Please let me know whether further details are desired, or whether it has
been or should be taken up in GitHub.
>
>
>
> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:47:55.289):
>
> Core frozen in stack:
>
> File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module>
>
> File "core.pyo", line 495, in main
>
> File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
>
> File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
>
> File "core.pyo", line 466, in run
>
> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>
> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>
> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
>
> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 147, in executeEvent
>
> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 160, in doPreGainFocus
>
> File "api.pyo", line 107, in setFocusObject
>
> File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
>
> File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
>
> File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 1579, in
_get_container
>
> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 954, in findGroupboxObject
>
> File "winUser.pyo", line 430, in getClassName
>
>
>
> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:48:10.339):
>
> Core frozen in stack:
>
> File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module>
>
> File "core.pyo", line 495, in main
>
> File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
>
> File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
>
> File "core.pyo", line 466, in run
>
> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll
>
> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue
>
> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
>
> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 147, in executeEvent
>
> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 160, in doPreGainFocus
>
> File "api.pyo", line 107, in setFocusObject
>
> File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
>
> File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
>
> File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 1579, in
_get_container
>
> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 945, in findGroupboxObject
>
> File "winUser.pyo", line 429, in getClassName
>
>
>
>










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Re: Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

Antony Stone
 

I do sometimes wish people would read the replies which have already been
posted to a thread before adding their own, just to save irrelevant bandwidth,
and wasted time for those reading the thread afterwards.

Antony.

On Sunday 09 September 2018 at 21:42:21, Chris G wrote:

Try this link:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/files/espeak/espeak-1.48/setup_espe
ak-1.48.04.exe/download

Chris
On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 20:35:08 +0100 David Mellor wrote:
I'm still using it as a SAPI5 voice. I don't know if this gets updated
with each NVDA update so it might be quite an old one.
It's not completely stable. It sometimes breaks and Windows 7
automatically changes the default SAPI voice to Microsoft Mary which is
pretty aweful. It takes just a few seconds to set it back to the desired
eSpeak voice once you've got the technique sorted.
David

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Subject: [nvda] Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

Is this still available? I rather want it to be available in other
software including Jaws and some self voicing and mp3 creation software
so we can use

the same voice somebody likes.

And no rude comments about anyone liking Espeak please, each to their
own. Brian
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Re: Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

Chris Nova
 

Try this link:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/files/espeak/espeak-1.48/setup_espeak-1.48.04.exe/download

Chris

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On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 20:35:08 +0100
"David Mellor" <david2@parasys.co.uk> wrote:

I'm still using it as a SAPI5 voice. I don't know if this gets updated with
each NVDA update so it might be quite an old one.
It's not completely stable. It sometimes breaks and Windows 7 automatically
changes the default SAPI voice to Microsoft Mary which is pretty aweful.
It takes just a few seconds to set it back to the desired eSpeak voice once
you've got the technique sorted.
David

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To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

Is this still available? I rather want it to be available in other software
including Jaws and some self voicing and mp3 creation software so we can use

the same voice somebody likes.
And no rude comments about anyone liking Espeak please, each to their own.
Brian

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Re: Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

David Mellor
 

I'm still using it as a SAPI5 voice. I don't know if this gets updated with
each NVDA update so it might be quite an old one.
It's not completely stable. It sometimes breaks and Windows 7 automatically
changes the default SAPI voice to Microsoft Mary which is pretty aweful.
It takes just a few seconds to set it back to the desired eSpeak voice once
you've got the technique sorted.
David

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 September 2018 10:09
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Espeak in a sapi5 guise?

Is this still available? I rather want it to be available in other software
including Jaws and some self voicing and mp3 creation software so we can use

the same voice somebody likes.
And no rude comments about anyone liking Espeak please, each to their own.
Brian

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Re: just became a blind mice megamall member

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of useful stuff.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

 

Hi, everyone,

 

Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all of us--not to jump to conclusions.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Rosie - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

Nancy Shackelford
 

I actually found the audio tutorial, and it told me that I can't do
this anyway, because it's apparently only going to use one of the
synthesizers already in the package, so it looks as if I wouldn't be
able to use my TripleTalk in this setting.

Thanks for sure,

Nance

On 9/9/18, Nancy Shackelford <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't seem to find the tutorial about putting NVDA on a memory
stick. Which section is it in?

Thanks,

Nance

On 9/9/18, Nancy Shackelford <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Rosie!

Nance

On 9/9/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Nance,

Gene NZ has a tutorial on how to put NVDA on a USB stick. Go to
www.accessibilitycentral.net. Hope this helps.
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