Nancy, just curious--How did you disable the system audio?

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What a plonker as we would say over here. That is a silly way to do it.

It will need re enabling then a system restart, but as you say its an issue.

I do not suppose you have a smart phone with be my eyes on it do you?
Obviously the well heeled person can call aira and get a paid person to
look as you are looking. Its better than nothing.
Brian

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From: "Nancy Shackelford" <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Brian - Portable copy of NVDA not working on laptop

I wish it were as simple as this, but I'm glad to know this about a
keyboard such as yours. Some dummy (who shall remain nameless) turned
off the Toshiba audio, thinking it could just be re-enabled the same
way, but this didn't work. I finally figured out that the Windows
audio service must've been disabled at the point of disabling the
Toshiba audio, so things should work again when I get someone to go in
and enable that and check in the start page to be sure the other audio
stuff is enabled.

Thanks to everyone,

Nance

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Thing is as I said at the start, if this is a simple as a turned off or
muted sound it could be that if your keyboard has 'extra' keys, one of
those

is a mute unmute toggle.It most certainly is on this logitech wireless
keyboard which had be going for a while when the keyboard fell on the
floor

and turned the sound off!
Brian

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I wish it were as simple as this, but I'm glad to know this about a
keyboard such as yours. Some dummy (who shall remain nameless) turned
off the Toshiba audio, thinking it could just be re-enabled the same
way, but this didn't work. I finally figured out that the Windows
audio service must've been disabled at the point of disabling the
Toshiba audio, so things should work again when I get someone to go in
and enable that and check in the start page to be sure the other audio
stuff is enabled.

Thanks to everyone,

Nance

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Thing is as I said at the start, if this is a simple as a turned off or
muted sound it could be that if your keyboard has 'extra' keys, one of those

is a mute unmute toggle.It most certainly is on this logitech wireless
keyboard which had be going for a while when the keyboard fell on the floor

and turned the sound off!
Brian

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didn't think about that one will give it a try

btw did check out the spects

currently it has 512 megs of ram I am seriously tempted to upgrade the
computer the ram that is.

On 9/10/2018 7:47 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Actually, if you put Linux on a thumb drive, or on a DVD, you can boot to
a live version of Ubuntu Mate and copy out the files before wiping the
drive. Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 2:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?

I don't have a slot to put the drive in my other desktop other wise I
would

I also don't have full use of one of my hands and do not feel confortable
with remove computer parts

On 9/7/2018 11:21 PM, Isaac wrote:

can you just take out the drive and grab the stuff of of it?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?


Hi,


NVDA 2017.3

Le 08/09/2018 à 07:59, The Wolf a écrit :

Helolo a neighbor gave me her old windows xp machine and I need to
get the music and other stuff off her machine that she wants

can any one tell me what is the latest version of nvda works with xp
and if some one could direct me to a portable version of it?

I plan on at least trying to put windows7 on to this machine I have
no plans on keeping windows xp on the machine

if windows7 will not run I will turn it in to a linux box or something

thanks

Hank

Actually, if you put Linux on a thumb drive, or on a DVD, you can boot to a live version of Ubuntu Mate and copy out the files before wiping the drive.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 2:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?

I don't have a slot to put the drive in my other desktop other wise I would

I also don't have full use of one of my hands and do not feel confortable with remove computer parts


On 9/7/2018 11:21 PM, Isaac wrote:

can you just take out the drive and grab the stuff of of it?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?


Hi,


NVDA 2017.3


Le 08/09/2018 à 07:59, The Wolf a écrit :

Helolo a neighbor gave me her old windows xp machine and I need to
get the music and other stuff off her machine that she wants

can any one tell me what is the latest version of nvda works with xp
and if some one could direct me to a portable version of it?

I plan on at least trying to put windows7 on to this machine I have
no plans on keeping windows xp on the machine

if windows7 will not run I will turn it in to a linux box or something

thanks

Hank

I just downloaded and installed it and it's working great for me so-far.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 10:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3rc1 now available

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access has just released NVDA 2018.3rc1. This is a Release Candidate, meaning that unless any critical bugs are found, this will be identical to the final 2018.3 release.

 

Highlights of this release include automatic detection of many Braille displays, support for new Windows 10 features including the Windows 10 Imoji input panel, and many other bug fixes. Read the full release announcement and download the release candidate from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-3rc1-released/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2018 10:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3rc1 now available

Is this still available? I rather want it to be available in other
software
including Jaws and some self voicing and mp3 creation software so we can
use the same voice somebody likes.
And no rude comments about anyone liking Espeak please, each to their
own.
Brian

That is great, Rosemarie!

The Movie vault, is so amazing, because every movie is an audio MP3 file, and they are all audio described.

There are hundreds of movies there!

Have a great one, Rosemarie!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi, David,

I'm gonna check out the movie vault. I just purchased my first book and it'll be coming in the mail in a couple of weeks.

Rosemarie

Hi guys!

I got on board because of the movie vault as well LOL!

David Moore

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of useful stuff.

Hi, everyone,

Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall site not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who said that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for all of us--not to jump to conclusions.

Rosemarie

Ah very interesting. Thanks for that link. Seems to be quite a bit of stuff there.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: September 9, 2018 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member

You can access most likely the same described movies without having to give up your email address by visiting this site:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/index.php?page=Described_Movies

On 9/9/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:

Glad you were able to get on board. I admit I mostly became a member
because of the movie vault, but they do seem to sell a good amount of
useful stuff.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 8, 2018 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] just became a blind mice megamall member



Hi, everyone,



Just want to admit that I was wrong about the blind mice megamall
site not being accessible. I just became a member. To the person who
said that the site is not accessible, you have to look at the form in
browse mode. Then you can fill it out. I looked at the site in both
firefox and internet explorer. This is a great lesson to learn for
all of us--not to jump to conclusions.



Rosemarie

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When I go there it says your download will start shortly but nothing else seems to occur. I've had this problem before on Github.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Espeak in a sapi5 guise?


According to https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/files/espeak/espeak-1.48/
the file setup_espeak-1.48.04.exe contains a SAPI5 version.

Direct download link is
https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/files/espeak/espeak-1.48/setup_espeak-1.48.04.exe/download

Note: I've not tried this out myself.

Antony.

On Sunday 09 September 2018 at 11:08:31, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

Is this still available? I rather want it to be available in other software
including Jaws and some self voicing and mp3 creation software so we can
use the same voice somebody likes.
 And no rude comments about anyone liking Espeak please, each to their own.
 Brian

can you just take out the drive and grab the stuff of of it?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest nvda that works on windows xp?


Hi,


NVDA 2017.3


Le 08/09/2018 à 07:59, The Wolf a écrit :

Helolo a neighbor gave me her old windows xp machine and I need to
get the music and other stuff off her machine that she wants

can any one tell me what is the latest version of nvda works with xp
and if some one could direct me to a portable version of it?

I plan on at least trying to put windows7 on to this machine I have
no plans on keeping windows xp on the machine

if windows7 will not run I will turn it in to a linux box or something

thanks

Hank

I thought he meant that in Jaws the area is separate but in his example
its an interaction between one area and another. I cannot visualise this
in my brain. Also one needs to point out that nobody can attach
screenshots on this likes and as the developers are blind a ticket on
github and some log fragments to show what is going on and a description
of what should go on would probably be the best approach here. Its very
difficult for us as blind people who have never seen the program, to
visualise the needed responses of nvda, against what is actually
happening. I would however say that if the program is only useable with
a mouse and is visual, then some work around using hot keys inside the
application would seem to be the only way forward. java Access bridge
can only go so far.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems using NVDA with a Java application


I've never tried this software, but why is this a problem? If something
changes, the screen reader is supposed to let the user know it changed.
NVDA is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, where's the problem?


On 9/6/2018 6:38 AM, Radu Coravu wrote:

Hi,

I'm a developer working to provide better accessibility in a
Java-based application called Oxygen XML Editor.
One of our end users uses our application with JAWS but he'd rather
use it with NVDA.
So I started to use our application with NVDA, I have to say it looks
like a better alternative, I even like the voice better.
There's one problem, our application has side views (see the attached
screenshot) and whenever I move the cursor in the text content the
"Outline" side view selects the appropriate node structure in its
internal tree. We do that without giving explicit focus to the Outline
view, but NVDA still reads the changes made in the Outline view
whenever I move the cursor in the main text area.

Is there a setting in NVDA to prohibit it to announce changes in
application components which are not keyboard focused?

I also reproduced the problem with a small Java application:

public static void main(String[] args) {
JFrame fr = new JFrame("AAA");
fr.setSize(500, 500);
JPanel panel = new JPanel(new GridBagLayout());
GridBagConstraints c = new GridBagConstraints();
c.gridy = 0;
c.gridx = 0;
JTree tree = new JTree();
JTextArea jt = new JTextArea("SOME\na\nb\nctext");
jt.addCaretListener(new CaretListener() {
@Override
public void caretUpdate(CaretEvent e) {
tree.setSelectionRow(e.getDot() % 4);
}
});
panel.add(jt, c);
c.gridy++;
panel.add(tree, c);

fr.getContentPane().add(panel, BorderLayout.CENTER);
fr.setVisible(true);
}

moving the caret in the text area also moves the selection in the tree
under it and sometimes NVDA reads the selection in the tree although
the focus is always in the text area.

Regards,
Radu

Radu Coravu
<oXygen/> XML Editor
http://www.oxygenxml.com

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 1:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3rc1 now available

yes, the braille me from nbp is the exact same thing as the braille me from innovision in India. When I bought mine, the dot quality was not that good. and when you would shake it, it would sound like you are shaking a box of hard candy or a box of marbles. The dots would not go all the way down, and it felt like reading a mix of good braille and badly erased braille. Unless this has changed? Also, some characters that show up in braille or brf files and brl files from some braille translation software would not even display on the braille me. 

Hi, Quentin.

Done the update to my machine and so far none of as of the moment knocking trouble from my end.

Robert Mendoza



On 9/10/2018 4:44 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

That's a great start, thanks Brian!

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OK am using it portably on windows 7 at the moment.

nothing has gone bang..
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 6:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3rc1 now available

Hi everyone,

NV Access has just released NVDA 2018.3rc1. This is a Release Candidate,
meaning that unless any critical bugs are found, this will be identical to
the final 2018.3 release.

Highlights of this release include automatic detection of many Braille
displays, support for new Windows 10 features including the Windows 10
Imoji input panel, and many other bug fixes. Read the full release
announcement and download the release candidate from:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-3rc1-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

Is the Braille Me from NBP that you are referring to the same as the Braille Me from Innovision in India? If so, then yes, they have created an add-on for it which makes it work very well with NVDA.

If you are interested, I have created an e-mail list for the BrailleMe to which you can subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to:

brailleme+subscribe@groups.io

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/09/10 04:39 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Anyone have used, or knows if the Braille Me display from National Braille Press, is compatible at this time with NVDA? If so, what’s the process for this because my student hooks her up to her Windows10 computer via USB; does NVDA+N to get into the NVDA menu; P for Preferences, and B for Braille. She gets to the list of compatible Braille displays, but the Braille Me doesn’t appear to be within! Where could she download the drivers, or what might the problem be? She was told by the folks at npb THAT nvda IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE BEFORE-MENTIONED DISPLAY. THANKS FOR ANY INFO YOU GUYS COULD GIVE ON THE MATTER.

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