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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Tempest in a teacup. The end user is responsible for entering the web address that they want, and that's what gets loaded.
Every modern web browser has allowed the end user to omit the www for some years now and inserts that in most cases when necessary. If you, for any you, aren't taking a quick look around a page after it loads, and saying "hmmmmm?," if you're not encountering what you're used to, the display of the address is the last issue to worry about. Just go back to the address bar and enter the corrected address. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Ervin, Glenn
I have done MSSE full scans and MRT scans and they find nothing. I have never been comfortable with the third-party anti-virus programs, in fact, the state of Nebraska only uses security essentials on its computers.
Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
No i9ssues here, I use MSE and tha'ts it. I would just do a scann and see if somethign is up. Chrome rocks. On 9/11/2018 8:21 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well, its a bad choice of default really for a setting that should be available in the main settings at first install.
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I wonder what they were thinking? I know that many sighted people are very cavalier about clicking and thinking later on. The Recent Hack of British Airways was carried out by a spoof web site and some rogue javascript implanted on an insecure landing page on the BA site. Nobody spotted it was not the connect url, and since the spoof site merely passed the data onto the real site, it took a while for it to be seen. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:01 PM Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important. The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics. Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles. See this article: https://www.komando.com/happening-now/486524/a-big-change-in-chrome-69-can-put-you-at-risk?utm_medium=nl&;utm_source=notd&utm_content=2018-09-10-a-b Gene
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Gene
This has nothing to do with sharing data or any
agreements with any other companies. This is a matter of pandering to
convenience to the point that a core security matter, the ability to see a
complete address, was sacrificed to make things look better and save a tiny bit
of room on the screen.
Gene
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From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to
correct agreement with Mastercard... Or were they sleeping or drunk when they signed it? None of those corporations is clean from the point of view of user data protection. I think it's a matter of give and take. They give you stuff "free of charge", but not free. You pay for their services with your data. In Italy we say that not even dogs wag for nothing... (smile) Ciao, Ollie Il 11/09/2018 20:37, Shaun Everiss ha scritto: > Well google need to be made aware, its not that bad if you know where > you are, but a brouser with such a market share well and on so many > devices, they better know what they are doing. > > > > On 9/12/2018 3:01 AM, Gene wrote: >> Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this >> article from Kim Komando is important. The Chrome designers are >> implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down >> the product for asthetics. Let's hope the protests from security >> experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed >> to do harm, as part of their founding principles. >> >> See this article: >> https://www.komando.com/happening-now/486524/a-big-change-in-chrome-69-can-put-you-at-risk?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content=2018-09-10-a-b >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Mallard
Oh well! They know alright! I assume they knew when they signed a secret agreement with Mastercard... Or were they sleeping or drunk when they signed it?
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None of those corporations is clean from the point of view of user data protection. I think it's a matter of give and take. They give you stuff "free of charge", but not free. You pay for their services with your data. In Italy we say that not even dogs wag for nothing... (smile) Ciao, Ollie
Il 11/09/2018 20:37, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well google need to be made aware, its not that bad if you know where you are, but a brouser with such a market share well and on so many devices, they better know what they are doing.
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I am currently using superantispyware, but its quite funny on access. The installer needs screen navigation to get to the I agree button and unless you launch it from the tray, it 'forgets' to tell nvda where to put the focus, and in the latest incarnation the x you need to tick to remove unwanted software seems to have become totally invisible to nvda so you either delete all or nothing, though the cookie part seems to work.
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I do wish they would test things before they put them out. Its almost right but they do not seem very helpful to free users...However who is going to pay if they are not confident about blind access? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct I used it once, and got a false positive on something, so never used it
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COLUMN AND ROW HEADINGS
Heaven Botma <heaven@...>
Hi List
This is just a bit of information for those who don’t know.
When one reads information on Wikipedia, NVDA repeats the row and column headers by default. This can be annoying when trying to read tables of information in browse mode, therefore, use the following steps to switch off row and column headings in NVDA:
Kind regards
Heaven Botma Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder 20 Adderley Street, Worcester T 023 348 7616 F 086 415 6835
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I guess one has to realise, just as in Android phones, the customer is the main way they earn money, ie advertising to them and gathering data about them.
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It is like many things the old, no such thing as a free lunch issue. A trade off between how much privacy and ability to stop ads you get against how much it costs. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct With regards to Chrome, Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open? After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening. Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process. But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens. Thanks. Glenn From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important. The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics. Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles. See this article: https://www.komando.com/happening-now/486524/a-big-change-in-chrome-69-can-put-you-at-risk?utm_medium=nl&;utm_source=notd&utm_content=2018-09-10-a-b<wlmailhtml:%7bC045F55E-C6A4-4D66-B25C-CC4F14F1006E%7dmid://00003403/!x-usc:https://www.komando.com/happening-now/486524/a-big-change-in-chrome-69-can-put-you-at-risk?utm_medium=nl&;utm_source=notd&utm_content=2018-09-10-a-b> Gene
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Re: NVDA 2018.3rc1 espeak problem with Russian language.
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I saw this mentioned on the Espeak list. I'd imagine other languages might be the same as well. I did not fully understand the problem as you say because I do not speak the language.
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I think you need to raise a ticket on nvdas gather site for this as I doubt anyone will see it here. In the meantime, speech player in Espeak is still downloadable as an add on and is an older version of Espeak but I cannot comment on how it affects Russian obviously, but the same variants are there. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Александр Епанешников" <aarnaarn2@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:25 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3rc1 espeak problem with Russian language. hello, i am from russia and i using espeak. in changelog i noticed that the synthesizer was updated. unfortunately because of the update, some words and prepositions were pronounced very strange. I can not explain it to people who do not know Russian, but it sounds unpleasant. is it possible to not update the synthesizer in the release, or to find the source of the problem? Sincerely, Alexander.
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Gene
MSSE is an adequate program but no knowledgeable
computer aedvisor says it is nearly as good at finding spyware as Malware
Bytes. If MSSE was running, as it presumably was, during the time of
infection, while it might now be aware of what it wasn't before because of
updated definitions, I wouldn't be confident of that. I doubt this
infection is new malware.
Gene
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From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to
correct No i9ssues here, I use MSE and tha'ts it. I would just do a scann and see if
somethign is up. Chrome rocks. On 9/11/2018 8:21 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
No i9ssues here, I use MSE and tha'ts it. I would just do a scann
and see if somethign is up. Chrome rocks.
On 9/11/2018 8:21 AM, Ervin, Glenn
wrote:
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Re: Skype and navigation, I see no headings and so on.
John Isige
Thanks, that helps a lot! I still don't know how to close the chat though. So I still have all the messages and the edit field and such up from when I sent a message to somebody. Can't you make that go away? Escape doesn't seem to do it and there's no close button that I can see. Also, how do you answer a call? The only method you give is setting answering to automatic, which I don't want to do.
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Re: Skype and navigation, I see no headings and so on.
hurrikennyandopo ...
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headings are not in every part of skype only in certain sections. to jump around the screen you will need to be in browse mode so you can use nvda quick navigation keys. If you are interested there is a written tutorial or a audio one that covers the basics of skype 8 on my nvda tutorials for other programs page. It is for the desk top version it should give you a idea of what to expect. The alt + 1 key and alt + 2 keys i use a lot. I mostly audio chat. But will give you a idea of the layout. Gene nz
On 12/09/2018 8:52 AM, John Isige wrote:
So I just installed Skype 8 because I figure I can always go back to
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Skype and navigation, I see no headings and so on.
John Isige
So I just installed Skype 8 because I figure I can always go back to the app version if I don't like it. It must have had my credentials stored from the app version because it signed me in right away after it got done with setup. Here's the screen I see, tabbing through it.
Chats", which is tab one of four, it informs me I have no unread notifications. Sort by time, which is a menu. New chat, which is also a menu. Then I get a list of chats, and if I arrow through them, it reads like this: "person 1, button, some of the message to person 1 and if it's long enough, if I arrow to the next line, more of the message to person 1 as a button and so on, person2 and message as a button, Etc." Continuing with tab, a start tutorial button, A check account link, "my info, active" which is a button, my skype username also as a button, a "more options" menu, "search skype" which is a button, and "use dialpad", which is also a button. Did I do something wrong? Where are all of these headings and edit fields and such? I looked in settings but I didn't really see anything about appearance or accessibility or what have you. I thought maybe it was in the list of chats, but no web commands work there either. Focus mode makes no difference. It just doesn't seem to be a web-like interface at all. It's certainly different from the app version, but nothing like what I expected from people's descriptions. This is an install of "Skype-8.30.0.50.exe", right from www.skype.com. I can arrow around in the list of chat messages and select with the normal Windows commands, that's nice. The window is just titled Skype but when I alt-tab to it, it says "Skype preview document", which seems to imply that NVDA thinks it's not your ordinary window. I assume if I hit enter and/or space on anything labelled "button" in the chat list it will open that specific conversation so I can see more than just the most recent message. Yep, and in there, I get headings for days. But I can't figure out how to close the chat, escape didn't work, nor did ctrl-F4, and alt-F4 just closed the Skype window, but it should still be running in the background, because I told it to in settings. Yep, it says it's in the system tray anyway. The duplicated messages are kind of weird, if I arrow up through the chat it has a message, then a profile button, then the message again. Anybody got any tips? I can navigate it but the web stuff doesn't seem to be working, except in a specific conversation, and like I said, I can't figure out how to close the conversation I opened. I'm sure I'll do more dumb stuff with it later.
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NVDA 2018.3rc1 espeak problem with Russian language.
hello, i am from russia and i using espeak. in changelog i noticed that the synthesizer was updated. unfortunately because of the update, some words and prepositions were pronounced very strange. I can not explain it to people who do not know Russian, but it sounds unpleasant.
is it possible to not update the synthesizer in the release, or to find the source of the problem? Sincerely, Alexander.
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Gene
They are aware. If the story is in the
popular press, they knew about it before it was covered there. If people
want to complain to Google about the feature, it may make them more likely to do
something about the problem.
Gene
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to
correct you are, but a brouser with such a market share well and on so many devices, they better know what they are doing. On 9/12/2018 3:01 AM, Gene wrote: > Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important. The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics. Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles. > > See this article: > https://www.komando.com/happening-now/486524/a-big-change-in-chrome-69-can-put-you-at-risk?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content=2018-09-10-a-b > > Gene > > > >
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Well google need to be made aware, its not that bad if you know where you are, but a brouser with such a market share well and on so many devices, they better know what they are doing.
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On 9/12/2018 3:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important. The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics. Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.
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Re: Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.
Well and there is my issue, to be honest, its probably just that bit more anoying because skype is not my main business mainstay.
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Skype7 keeps asking me to update it even with settings changed. Right now I just won't use skype till it becomes accessible, stable, or I need it. That does mean I will have to turn down some international business but so what. Its not that hard for me to boykot skype and so I will before I get started on it again. I want a stable, accessible and usable skype, skype classic is that version. I barely needed it and if I am going to start needing it as a matter of a job I need to know it will continue to work.
On 9/12/2018 1:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
And yet they are saying they are not stopping supporting it in a press release some days back. Do the left and right hand know what they are doing I wonder.
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Kwork
I used it once, and got a false positive on something, so never
used it again. Pretty much stuck with Malwarebytes after that.
On 9/11/2018 9:16 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
Gene
Running Malware Bytes might find something.
Or, you might run an antiadware utility. If you want to try it first, it
would be a lot faster. Its name is AdwCleaner. Others may have more
information about it. I believe it found a false positive when I tried it
perhaps a year ago so look carefully at the list of results.
Gene
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From: Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to
correct I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Adware. What antimalware programs do you run?
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Ervin, Glenn Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct
With regards to Chrome, Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open? After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening. Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process. But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens. Thanks. Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important. The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics. Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.
See this article:
Gene
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