Their download audio downloads a clip of an audio recording, and when I told them about that, they said that their site must have been hit with something, because the audio files had nothing that could be entered.

I always try pages that don’t work with IE, WaterFox, and Chrome.

Glenn

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

Good morning.

I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready to be
embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those midi files,
right?

There is a software called Braille music editor which might help you
with what you're needing.

Cheers.


Fernando Apan.



El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles Turnbull escribió:

I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted
days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score
as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those
pieces.

I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any
way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could
somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with
three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure
them out by listening to a recording.

I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from
which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important
for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.

It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in
Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this
morning!

Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)

Giles

link for firefox 52 esr last version to support complete
webvisumvhttps://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/wi
n64/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2052.9.0esr.exe

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:23 PM

If I toggle the PC cursor, there is no checkbox.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:13 PM

Subject: Re: [] Can't Check An Item On Amazon.com

Another wrote:

I just did this process a few minutes ago and had the same problem with the

check box.  I had my wife come up and help.  She said there was no check box

but a control with up and down pointers.  Using these pointers she was given

a list of choices for the return.  Once a choice was selected the continue

would work.  I detected no way Jaws could handle this function.

DD

have you tried doing this with the virtual pc cursor off?;

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Can't Check An Item On Amazon.com

Finally, another wrote in that she cannot make it work for her and she too contacted customer service to do the transaction and she complained to deaf ears.

Glenn

On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:22 AM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

Well they say its an nvda issue, I wouldn't mind except itunes is the only way to update things, saying with the death of the store on windows, unless I use it for podcasts and such on windows which I probably won't there is almost no reason for me to ever use it except if I need to store a full backup, and I know a program like contacts backup will work for contacts, the rest is on icloud and the storage rates are fair enough.

It does appear that the itunes universal and the itune pc app have the same interface but the fact is I do wander if the itunes app was accessible in the first place, I never needed to check.

However, while I will soldier on with this, this latest issue may push me off of ios, not because its quite accessible but if I can't use the windows configuration and sync software properly then if it goes pair shaped then I have no chance at all.

On the other hand, with android the chance that my software to do things from windows is going to be accessible is probably low to and I know where to get apple stuff and it is only 1 single system to learn which is probably why I will still end up using it, as long as I have an old device, this latest issue is starting to make me think twice about putting all my stuff in the apple environment.

I have family now with apple devices with a lot of stuff, once your stuff is in apple its going to have to stay there and you will have to continue to use it, and while I won't get the latest something I am seriously thinking on my next device being with the competition.

To be honest if I didn't care for apps and as long as I have a 32 bit unit about I can continue using symbian phones for the rest of my life but there are so many reasons to actually get up and use apps these days.

On 9/13/2018 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I’m not so interested in being fair to Apple in this instance. Microsoft has made the office suite reasonably accessible on the Mac and even on I devices. Apple hasn’t done that well with iTunes or iCloud for that matter. As somebody who owned a Mac for years, hoping that Apple would catch up with Accessibility there and eventually I went back to windows, I’m disgusted. Far more people in this world use windows then use a Mac. I love the eye devices. Apple needs to step up his game on windows. It’s that simple.
Mary

On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:40 PM, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows
is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac.

On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thanks for that.

On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Apple has an accessibility address

accessibility@...

wher you can send email. They also have a direct phone number to the
accessibility department. But I don't know about contacting them on
this line outside the U.S., since it is a toll-free number. (877)
204–3930

On 9/12/2018 4:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes it does, I was getting close to getting into apple devices, my
aunt well has this, they had issues with icloud, most of that is
fixed, I wouldn't complain but basically the entire window does not
display, on the desktop itunes, not sure about the app, not sure
about dolphin or jaws,

But a lot of us need to contact apple about this though I had a job
to even get accessibility the main support tech was almost
completely useless, I had to go through itunes billing to get a real
human the drone I had was useless, scarily enough, when I reached
apple access the person I got sounded almost but not quite like the
eva cortana voice, so who knows if that was real or not but who
knows I am sure it was <grin>

On 9/13/2018 11:04 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
that sucks:(

On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible
with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully,
nvda just treats it as a blank link.

After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an
nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was
thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device.

On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Davy Cuppens <davycuppens@...> wrote:

Hi Mary

Partially you are right but being honest: are you a fan of the office ribbon menu system. I know almost no blinds are not.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes latest issue

I’m not so interested in being fair to Apple in this instance. Microsoft has made the office suite reasonably accessible on the Mac and even on I devices. Apple hasn’t done that well with iTunes or iCloud for that matter. As somebody who owned a Mac for years, hoping that Apple would catch up with Accessibility there and eventually I went back to windows, I’m disgusted. Far more people in this world use windows then use a Mac. I love the eye devices. Apple needs to step up his game on windows. It’s that simple.
Mary

On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:40 PM, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows
is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac.

On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thanks for that.

On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Apple has an accessibility address

accessibility@...

wher you can send email. They also have a direct phone number to the
accessibility department. But I don't know about contacting them on
this line outside the U.S., since it is a toll-free number. (877)
204–3930

On 9/12/2018 4:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes it does, I was getting close to getting into apple devices, my
aunt well has this, they had issues with icloud, most of that is
fixed, I wouldn't complain but basically the entire window does not
display, on the desktop itunes, not sure about the app, not sure
about dolphin or jaws,

But a lot of us need to contact apple about this though I had a job
to even get accessibility the main support tech was almost
completely useless, I had to go through itunes billing to get a real
human the drone I had was useless, scarily enough, when I reached
apple access the person I got sounded almost but not quite like the
eva cortana voice, so who knows if that was real or not but who
knows I am sure it was <grin>

On 9/13/2018 11:04 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
that sucks:(

On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible
with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully,
nvda just treats it as a blank link.

After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an
nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was
thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device.

Does Waterfox support it?
The problem with older versions of FF is that no security updates are now being made.
I would also say that if you have a slow machine and you are prepared to take the security risk, the version 45 is much faster on xp.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "andru fou" <ndrf333@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

link for firefox 52 esr last version to support complete
webvisumvhttps://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/win64/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2052.9.0esr.exe

No, it's not addware.  There is a setting in chrome that allows those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it off.  The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on the pc.  The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they won't do that anymore.  I've looked through my settings, and couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost here after I get it turned off. 

Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a reboot.  I'd really like to turn those off.  I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking me already.

I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Adware.  What antimalware programs do you run?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

With regards to Chrome,

Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open?

After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening.

Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process.

But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important.  The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics.  Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.

 

See this article:

https://www.komando.com/happening-now/486524/a-big-change-in-chrome-69-can-put-you-at-risk?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=notd&utm_content=2018-09-10-a-b

 

Gene

I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.

I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.

I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.

It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!

Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)

Giles