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google domains configuration web site seems unaccessible

Rusty Perez
 

Hi folks,
I am trying to configure my web domain on google domains but while
using NVDA and Firefox, when I go to domains.google.com and log in,
the tabs appear, but when I navigate, for example, to the configure
dns tab and press enter, or nvda/numEnter the options which are
supposed to appear don't seem to be available to me with NVDA. I have
not confirmed that they do appear on the screen, all I know is that I
cannot get to them using my conventional methods, arrows or tab.

Any thoughts?

Rusty


Re: link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Ervin, Glenn
 

There is a field, and the audio file is not usable, as it is strange audio, like a clip from a TV show.

They had no clear answer for that.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Are you saying there is no edit field on the site itself to enter the captcha? 

 

At times, sighted people are asked to solve a captcha as well.  At this point, we don't know if everyone sees no field or just screen-reader users.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

It is my ISP log in for recovery of a new eMail password.

Their download audio downloads a clip of an audio recording, and when I told them about that, they said that their site must have been hit with something, because the audio files had nothing that could be entered.

I always try pages that don’t work with IE, WaterFox, and Chrome.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

I suspect the audio captchas work and that there is some problem on your system that causes them not to work.  How can we check the captcha on your provider.  Do other I'm not a robot audio captchas work on other sites?  What browsers have you tested this on?

 

Also, as I recall, the I'm not a robot captcha gives you the option to download the file.  Does it give you the option and have you tried that?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:54 AM

Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Gene
 

Are you saying there is no edit field on the site itself to enter the captcha? 
 
At times, sighted people are asked to solve a captcha as well.  At this point, we don't know if everyone sees no field or just screen-reader users.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum
It is my ISP log in for recovery of a new eMail password.

Their download audio downloads a clip of an audio recording, and when I told them about that, they said that their site must have been hit with something, because the audio files had nothing that could be entered.

I always try pages that don’t work with IE, WaterFox, and Chrome.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

I suspect the audio captchas work and that there is some problem on your system that causes them not to work.  How can we check the captcha on your provider.  Do other I'm not a robot audio captchas work on other sites?  What browsers have you tested this on?

 

Also, as I recall, the I'm not a robot captcha gives you the option to download the file.  Does it give you the option and have you tried that?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:54 AM

Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Ervin, Glenn
 

It is my ISP log in for recovery of a new eMail password.

Their download audio downloads a clip of an audio recording, and when I told them about that, they said that their site must have been hit with something, because the audio files had nothing that could be entered.

I always try pages that don’t work with IE, WaterFox, and Chrome.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

I suspect the audio captchas work and that there is some problem on your system that causes them not to work.  How can we check the captcha on your provider.  Do other I'm not a robot audio captchas work on other sites?  What browsers have you tested this on?

 

Also, as I recall, the I'm not a robot captcha gives you the option to download the file.  Does it give you the option and have you tried that?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:54 AM

Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Gene
 

I suspect the audio captchas work and that there is some problem on your system that causes them not to work.  How can we check the captcha on your provider.  Do other I'm not a robot audio captchas work on other sites?  What browsers have you tested this on?
 
Also, as I recall, the I'm not a robot captcha gives you the option to download the file.  Does it give you the option and have you tried that?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Automatic Reading of Footnotes in Word

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

For comments I am fairly certain there is a way to read these by changing document speaking options.

Jonathan


Re: Softwares to compose music for the blind

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I guess reaper feeds into this too. Sadly even the audio editing side of this is completely foxing me at the moment, the sound device keeps vanishing and I'm running out of free days, almost ready to throw in the towel.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Softwares to compose music for the blind


Good morning.

I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready to be
embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those midi files,
right?

There is a software called Braille music editor which might help you
with what you're needing.

Cheers.


Fernando Apan.



El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles Turnbull escribió:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted
days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score
as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those
pieces.

I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any
way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could
somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with
three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure
them out by listening to a recording.

I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from
which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important
for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.

It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in
Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this
morning!

Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)

Giles


Re: link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Ervin, Glenn
 

Interesting idea, I'll have to try that.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Does Waterfox support it?
The problem with older versions of FF is that no security updates are now being made.
I would also say that if you have a slow machine and you are prepared to take the security risk, the version 45 is much faster on xp.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "andru fou" <ndrf333@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum


link for firefox 52 esr last version to support complete
webvisumvhttps://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/wi
n64/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2052.9.0esr.exe



Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Ervin, Glenn
 

My cable provider has one of those

I’m Not A Robot

Links but it does nothing for me and their audio captchas don’t work.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

You know… Someone was able to crack this nut once and while it’s a bummer that Webvisum was dumped, it apparently wasn’t impossible to put together the necessary tools to develop it. Other then the Accessible Apps guy who was charging something like $3 a month for a CAPCHA solution, no one else has really given a shot to recreate a similar one. Sure it sucks that you have to maybe pay for something that can be argued should be free, but those are the breaks. That or another intrepid developer can invest their time and money and skill into an accessible CAPTCHA solver out of the kindness of their heart until something’s actually done about the inaccessibility. Even if you pay, just deduct it from your taxes.

That said though, I can’t recall the last time I really had an issue with a CAPTCHA. Everything’s the I’m not a robot or audio option for the most part now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Returns at Amazon.com don't work with screenreaders

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

I’m on a Jaws list at home, and I sent this issue to this list, because I could not check an item for returns to Amazon.com, and no matter what I did, it would not work, and that is twice I have had to call their customer service about this to return an item, and they told me that the disability department will be notified, but nothing ever happens.

I tried it with both Jaws and NVDA and three different browsers.

I am more proficient with Jaws, so I’d like to know if maybe there is something I don’t know about NVDA that could have done this for me.

Here’s part of the thread explaining the problem, there is my message and one or two replies of Jaws users that could not do the same thing…

 

Hi,

Jaws 2018, Windows 7 & IE.

I need to return an item, but I cannot because I cannot check the item.

I have moved to it with the X key and enter and space bar don't check it.

I tried insert + F5 and moved to it, and entering does not check it.

I try the continue button every time, in case it is checking it but not

saying

checked.

I have tried the number pad mouse click and that does not work.

Any other ideas?

 

 

have you tried tabbing away and back to the checkbox.

sometimes the status of the box will be spoken if you do this after you

press enter or space bar on it.

have you tried tabbing around on the page after the virtual cursor is turned

off.

sometimes if you start at the top of the screen and keep tabbing you will

land on the check box, edit box, combo box etc.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:23 PM

 

If I toggle the PC cursor, there is no checkbox.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:13 PM

Subject: Re: [] Can't Check An Item On Amazon.com

Another wrote:

I just did this process a few minutes ago and had the same problem with the

check box.  I had my wife come up and help.  She said there was no check box

but a control with up and down pointers.  Using these pointers she was given

a list of choices for the return.  Once a choice was selected the continue

would work.  I detected no way Jaws could handle this function.

DD

 

 

have you tried doing this with the virtual pc cursor off?;

 

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Can't Check An Item On Amazon.com

Finally, another wrote in that she cannot make it work for her and she too contacted customer service to do the transaction and she complained to deaf ears.

Glenn

 


Re: itunes latest issue

Mary Otten
 

What do you mean when you say iTunes is the only way to update things? I never use iTunes to update anything. I just do it over the air. It is the only way to make a fully encrypted backup however. At least as far as I am aware.

On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:22 AM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

Well they say its an nvda issue, I wouldn't mind except itunes is the only way to update things, saying with the death of the store on windows, unless I use it for podcasts and such on windows which I probably won't there is almost no reason for me to ever use it except if I need to store a full backup, and I know a program like contacts backup will work for contacts, the rest is on icloud and the storage rates are fair enough.

It does appear that the itunes universal and the itune pc app have the same interface but the fact is I do wander if the itunes app was accessible in the first place, I never needed to check.

However, while I will soldier on with this, this latest issue may push me off of ios, not because its quite accessible but if I can't use the windows configuration and sync software properly then if it goes pair shaped then I have no chance at all.

On the other hand, with android the chance that my software to do things from windows is going to be accessible is probably low to and I know where to get apple stuff and it is only 1 single system to learn which is probably why I will still end up using it, as long as I have an old device, this latest issue is starting to make me think twice about putting all my stuff in the apple environment.

I have family now with apple devices with a lot of stuff, once your stuff is in apple its going to have to stay there and you will have to continue to use it, and while I won't get the latest something I am seriously thinking on my next device being with the competition.

To be honest if I didn't care for apps and as long as I have a 32 bit unit about I can continue using symbian phones for the rest of my life but there are so many reasons to actually get up and use apps these days.



On 9/13/2018 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I’m not so interested in being fair to Apple in this instance. Microsoft has made the office suite reasonably accessible on the Mac and even on I devices. Apple hasn’t done that well with iTunes or iCloud for that matter. As somebody who owned a Mac for years, hoping that Apple would catch up with Accessibility there and eventually I went back to windows, I’m disgusted. Far more people in this world use windows then use a Mac. I love the eye devices. Apple needs to step up his game on windows. It’s that simple.
Mary
On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:40 PM, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows
is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac.


On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thanks for that.



On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Apple has an accessibility address

accessibility@...

wher you can send email. They also have a direct phone number to the
accessibility department. But I don't know about contacting them on
this line outside the U.S., since it is a toll-free number. (877)
204–3930


On 9/12/2018 4:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes it does, I was getting close to getting into apple devices, my
aunt well has this, they had issues with icloud, most of that is
fixed, I wouldn't complain but basically the entire window does not
display, on the desktop itunes, not sure about the app, not sure
about dolphin or jaws,

But a lot of us need to contact apple about this though I had a job
to even get accessibility the main support tech was almost
completely useless, I had to go through itunes billing to get a real
human the drone I had was useless, scarily enough, when I reached
apple access the person I got sounded almost but not quite like the
eva cortana voice, so who knows if that was real or not but who
knows I am sure it was <grin>


On 9/13/2018 11:04 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
that sucks:(


On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible
with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully,
nvda just treats it as a blank link.

After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an
nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was
thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device.











Re: itunes latest issue

Mary Otten
 

You have to get used to the ribbon thing, but it is not an accessibility issue per se. It’s not like not being able to see the main window of a program. That’s a showstopper. The ribbon thing is just re-learning. Not fun. But it’s not in accessible.

On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Davy Cuppens <davycuppens@...> wrote:

Hi Mary

Partially you are right but being honest: are you a fan of the office ribbon menu system. I know almost no blinds are not.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes latest issue

I’m not so interested in being fair to Apple in this instance. Microsoft has made the office suite reasonably accessible on the Mac and even on I devices. Apple hasn’t done that well with iTunes or iCloud for that matter. As somebody who owned a Mac for years, hoping that Apple would catch up with Accessibility there and eventually I went back to windows, I’m disgusted. Far more people in this world use windows then use a Mac. I love the eye devices. Apple needs to step up his game on windows. It’s that simple.
Mary
On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:40 PM, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows
is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac.


On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thanks for that.



On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Apple has an accessibility address

accessibility@...

wher you can send email. They also have a direct phone number to the
accessibility department. But I don't know about contacting them on
this line outside the U.S., since it is a toll-free number. (877)
204–3930


On 9/12/2018 4:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes it does, I was getting close to getting into apple devices, my
aunt well has this, they had issues with icloud, most of that is
fixed, I wouldn't complain but basically the entire window does not
display, on the desktop itunes, not sure about the app, not sure
about dolphin or jaws,

But a lot of us need to contact apple about this though I had a job
to even get accessibility the main support tech was almost
completely useless, I had to go through itunes billing to get a real
human the drone I had was useless, scarily enough, when I reached
apple access the person I got sounded almost but not quite like the
eva cortana voice, so who knows if that was real or not but who
knows I am sure it was <grin>


On 9/13/2018 11:04 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
that sucks:(


On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible
with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully,
nvda just treats it as a blank link.

After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an
nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was
thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device.

















Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA and amazon

Ervin, Glenn
 

The trouble with using their access page is that you will get a cookie that is a pain to remove.
If you are happy with the access pages for your only Amazon page option, then going to the access page is okay, but I dislike the lack of detail on the access pages, and once you go there, you will never get back to a regular amazon page again, no matter how hard you try.
You will have to use a different browser or remove the access page cookie they put into your browser.
I wasted many hours figuring this out because no matter what I did, I could not ever get a normal Amazon page after going to the access site.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA and amazon

I've also noticed this  issue lately. You might try www dot amazon dot com slash access. I've  written this out because my BrailleNote Touch doesn't always translate web addresses correctly. Anyway, I haven't tried buying a Kindle book using this  site, but I was able to order an Echo Dot today without any trouble so it's worth a looksee. Hope this helps.

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Re: link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Ron Canazzi
 

Unfortunately Waterfox does not support webvisum.

On 9/13/2018 3:01 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does Waterfox support it?
The problem with older versions of FF is that no security updates are now being made.
I would also say that if you have a slow machine and you are prepared to take the security risk, the version 45 is much faster on xp.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "andru fou" <ndrf333@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum


link for firefox 52 esr last version to support complete
webvisumvhttps://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/52.9.0esr/win64/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2052.9.0esr.exe




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Re: itunes latest issue

Davy Cuppens
 

Hi Mary

Partially you are right but being honest: are you a fan of the office ribbon menu system. I know almost no blinds are not.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes latest issue

I’m not so interested in being fair to Apple in this instance. Microsoft has made the office suite reasonably accessible on the Mac and even on I devices. Apple hasn’t done that well with iTunes or iCloud for that matter. As somebody who owned a Mac for years, hoping that Apple would catch up with Accessibility there and eventually I went back to windows, I’m disgusted. Far more people in this world use windows then use a Mac. I love the eye devices. Apple needs to step up his game on windows. It’s that simple.
Mary
On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:40 PM, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

To be fair to Apple, Apple's stuff works pretty differently on Apple's
stuff, as opposed to Windows ports. I don't know if Safari under Windows
is usable, but it's usable, if pretty weird, on the mac.


On 9/12/2018 19:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Thanks for that.



On 9/13/2018 11:19 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Apple has an accessibility address

accessibility@...

wher you can send email. They also have a direct phone number to the
accessibility department. But I don't know about contacting them on
this line outside the U.S., since it is a toll-free number. (877)
204–3930


On 9/12/2018 4:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes it does, I was getting close to getting into apple devices, my
aunt well has this, they had issues with icloud, most of that is
fixed, I wouldn't complain but basically the entire window does not
display, on the desktop itunes, not sure about the app, not sure
about dolphin or jaws,

But a lot of us need to contact apple about this though I had a job
to even get accessibility the main support tech was almost
completely useless, I had to go through itunes billing to get a real
human the drone I had was useless, scarily enough, when I reached
apple access the person I got sounded almost but not quite like the
eva cortana voice, so who knows if that was real or not but who
knows I am sure it was <grin>


On 9/13/2018 11:04 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
that sucks:(


On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible
with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully,
nvda just treats it as a blank link.

After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an
nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was
thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device.












Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

Ervin, Glenn
 

I wouldn’t call

Hot Asian girls in your area

Tech news.

I get quick little popups saying stuff like that, sometimes a bit more legitimate sounding.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

No, it's not addware.  There is a setting in chrome that allows those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it off.  The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on the pc.  The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they won't do that anymore.  I've looked through my settings, and couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost here after I get it turned off. 

Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a reboot.  I'd really like to turn those off.  I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking me already.

 

On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Adware.  What antimalware programs do you run?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

With regards to Chrome,

Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open?

After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening.

Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process.

But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important.  The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics.  Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.

 

See this article:

 

Gene

 

 

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Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Ron Canazzi
 

While it is abandoned ware, it will still work on the Firefox 52 series ESR and earlier.  There was a hack by James Scoles that revived it, but when this newer quantum Firefox came around, the hack wouldn't work. 


I forget the direct link to where I got it, so instead I uploaded it to Send Space for anyone who wants it.  The size is only 233 KB.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/lwddwk



On 9/12/2018 6:26 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 05:05 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
Does Webvisum still work?
No.  It is abandonware and no one who has tried to contact the developers has had any success.
 
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problem with itunes 12.9

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi

I fixed iTunes. I uninstalled iTunes 12.9 uninstalled all the apple stuff, deleted all folders inside of the appdata folder and program data folder in windows10. Then I went to the fileHippo website and got iTunes 12.8, the older july 2018 version installed it. I told it to never check for updates. Now iTunes works again. I’ll stay on 12.8 until they fix 12.9 and above.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: itunes latest issue

Davy Cuppens
 

NO that does not suck thats wok for the devs.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Joseph Weakland
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] itunes latest issue

that sucks:(


On 9/12/2018 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well, just updated to itunes 12.9, the main window is not visible with nvda, narator can read it on win10 sort of but not fully, nvda just treats it as a blank link.

After ages managed to talk to apple but they think its just an nvda issue, who knows if they will actually fix this, and I was thinking I would be going to eventually buy an i device.





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Re: Softwares to compose music for the blind

Fernando Apan
 

Good morning.

I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready to be embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those midi files, right?

There is a software called Braille music editor which might help you with what you're needing.

Cheers.


Fernando Apan.



El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles Turnbull escribió:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.

I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.

I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.

It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!

Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)

Giles