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Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I don't have many open and tend to close them. I'm not sure if I have a setting ticked that interferes with the memory issue or not but I may try and revert to factory defaults etc.

I do use firefox too, but chrome seems to be working well until this issue cropped up.


On 13-Sep-2018 4:29 PM, JM Casey wrote:

That’s crazy.

How many tabs do you have open before that happens?

 

I’m mostly still using Firefox and, bar periodic irritating crashes, am really happy.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: September 13, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Hi,

Chrome opens each add on in a separate instance.

If I close one process chrome.exe, it may report that ublock origin has crashed, etc.

However I haven't seen these popups that you speak of.

 

What I am seeing, though, is chrome using ridiculous amounts of ram. Right now it is managing to take a machine with 16 gb of ram to its knees rather eloquently.

 

 

On 13-Sep-2018 3:49 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Definitely sounds like malware to me, especially if Chrome is opening instances all on its own/even when closed. I have seen malware behave in this manner many times.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: September 12, 2018 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

No, it's not addware.  There is a setting in chrome that allows those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it off.  The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on the pc.  The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they won't do that anymore.  I've looked through my settings, and couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost here after I get it turned off. 

Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a reboot.  I'd really like to turn those off.  I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking me already.

 

On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Adware.  What antimalware programs do you run?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

With regards to Chrome,

Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open?

After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening.

Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process.

But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important.  The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics.  Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.

 

See this article:

 

Gene

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 



Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That’s crazy.

How many tabs do you have open before that happens?

 

I’m mostly still using Firefox and, bar periodic irritating crashes, am really happy.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: September 13, 2018 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Hi,

Chrome opens each add on in a separate instance.

If I close one process chrome.exe, it may report that ublock origin has crashed, etc.

However I haven't seen these popups that you speak of.

 

What I am seeing, though, is chrome using ridiculous amounts of ram. Right now it is managing to take a machine with 16 gb of ram to its knees rather eloquently.

 

 

On 13-Sep-2018 3:49 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Definitely sounds like malware to me, especially if Chrome is opening instances all on its own/even when closed. I have seen malware behave in this manner many times.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: September 12, 2018 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

No, it's not addware.  There is a setting in chrome that allows those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it off.  The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on the pc.  The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they won't do that anymore.  I've looked through my settings, and couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost here after I get it turned off. 

Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a reboot.  I'd really like to turn those off.  I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking me already.

 

On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Adware.  What antimalware programs do you run?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

With regards to Chrome,

Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open?

After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening.

Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process.

But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important.  The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics.  Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.

 

See this article:

 

Gene

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 


Re: Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Ah right, I should have mentioned that, it will handle .epub as well as .pdf which definitely adds to its worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: September 13, 2018 4:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

No, not free, but you can read all about it here and try a demo:

https://q-continuum.net/qread/

For me, well worth the purchase price, and it reads epub files, its biggest selling point in my opinion.

Travis

On 9/13/2018 12:07 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Is qread free, or how much?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike Sedmak
Sent: September-13-18 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

I find that search works in qread but have trouble searching for text in acrobat reader.

On 9/13/18, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I know that QRead is specifically designed for the blind, but are
there any advantages it has in reading PDFs that make it
significantly better than Adobe Acrobat with NVDA?








Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Chrome opens each add on in a separate instance.

If I close one process chrome.exe, it may report that ublock origin has crashed, etc.

However I haven't seen these popups that you speak of.


What I am seeing, though, is chrome using ridiculous amounts of ram. Right now it is managing to take a machine with 16 gb of ram to its knees rather eloquently.



On 13-Sep-2018 3:49 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Definitely sounds like malware to me, especially if Chrome is opening instances all on its own/even when closed. I have seen malware behave in this manner many times.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: September 12, 2018 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

No, it's not addware.  There is a setting in chrome that allows those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it off.  The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on the pc.  The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they won't do that anymore.  I've looked through my settings, and couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost here after I get it turned off. 

Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a reboot.  I'd really like to turn those off.  I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking me already.

 

On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Adware.  What antimalware programs do you run?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ervin, Glenn

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

With regards to Chrome,

Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open?

After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening.

Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process.

But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important.  The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics.  Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.

 

See this article:

 

Gene

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com



Re: Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

Kwork
 

No, not free, but you can read all about it here and try a demo:

https://q-continuum.net/qread/

For me, well worth the purchase price, and it reads epub files, its biggest selling point in my opinion.

Travis

On 9/13/2018 12:07 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Is qread free, or how much?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: September-13-18 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

I find that search works in qread but have trouble searching for text in acrobat reader.

On 9/13/18, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I know that QRead is specifically designed for the blind, but are
there any advantages it has in reading PDFs that make it significantly
better than Adobe Acrobat with NVDA?







Re: Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

Kwork
 

QRead is also not good if your pdf is divided into columns. The acrobat reader will try and read the columns separately while QRead will read both columns as one line making the text sound really confusing.

Otherwise the below answer is right. QRead is my first choice, but also keep Acrobat Reader around as QRead isn't perfect.

Travis

On 9/13/2018 11:54 AM, JM Casey wrote:
The Adobe Acrobat find feature is weird and doesn't quite work nicely with screen-readers in my experience.

You should have both Adobe and qRead on your system if you want, imo.
I like qRead mostly because it is fast as hell. If you set Adobe to load the entire document, which is wise if you really want proper functionality to work, but then try to open a really large file, you've no doubt noticed how irritatingly long it takes to process. qRead can do this in just a few seconds. So I like how small and snappy it is by comparison.

However, sometimes you will just need the Adobe product instead. qRead doesn't always seem to show document formatting properly. You can't print from it if I remember right, and anyway, if formatting is wanky, you wouldn't want to. You can't fill out forms. Etc, etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: September 13, 2018 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

I find that search works in qread but have trouble searching for text in acrobat reader.

On 9/13/18, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I know that QRead is specifically designed for the blind, but are
there any advantages it has in reading PDFs that make it significantly
better than Adobe Acrobat with NVDA?







iTunes 12.9

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Has anyone created a ticket on Github abut iTunes 12.9? Apple Support did reach out to me via Twitter, but they gave me the standard Yaba dab about contacting the 3rd party software company which is NV Access.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Definitely sounds like malware to me, especially if Chrome is opening instances all on its own/even when closed. I have seen malware behave in this manner many times.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: September 12, 2018 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

No, it's not addware.  There is a setting in chrome that allows those popups about tech news, and my son knows which one it is, but I personally haven't been able to find it in my copy of chrome, so I need to ask him again which setting it is to turn it off.  The news titles pop up in the system notifications area on the pc.  The setting in chrome turns those pop ups off, so they won't do that anymore.  I've looked through my settings, and couldn't find which setting was causing it, but I'll ask him again and repost here after I get it turned off. 

Those don't bother me as much as the flippin' login to my apple drive that keeps popping up every half hour or so, which seems also to be triggered by my first opening of chrome after a reboot.  I'd really like to turn those off.  I'll log in to the silly thing when I want to use it, not until then, so stop asking me already.

 

On 9/11/2018 11:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I only run Microsoft’s MRT and Security Essentials.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Adware.  What antimalware programs do you run?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:21 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

With regards to Chrome,

Has anyone else had ads popping up when Chrome is open?

After I close Chrome, I have to bring up the task manager and close several more instances of it to keep the pop-up ads from happening.

Chrome loads itself with multiple instances for more stability, each instance for a different process.

But I have gone through settings and seemingly turned off anything related to pop-ups and notifications, and it still happens.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A security change in Chrome you would be wise to correct

 

Given the increasing popularity of Chrome among blind users, this article from Kim Komando is important.  The Chrome designers are implementing a change which is very bad for security, dumbing down the product for asthetics.  Let's hope the protests from security experts and others cause them to remember that they are not supposed to do harm, as part of their founding principles.

 

See this article:

 

Gene

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I believe it's about $35 in US currency.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: September 13, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

Is qread free, or how much?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: September-13-18 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

I find that search works in qread but have trouble searching for text in acrobat reader.

On 9/13/18, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I know that QRead is specifically designed for the blind, but are
there any advantages it has in reading PDFs that make it significantly
better than Adobe Acrobat with NVDA?




Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Never blocked any such thing for years. I used to suppress download of images when I was on dialup (and I was on dialup for longer than most), but still … a long time ago.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September 13, 2018 3:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

If you had images blocked, it wouldn't work.  If you had JAVA scripts off or blocked, I doubt it would work either.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: JM Casey

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

I don’t quite remember the process, but I did acquire an account somewhat recently after receiving an invitation code from a friend. Maybe 2015?

However, Webvism nonetheless never successfully solved anything for me. I remember repeatedly getting the message “no captsha (sp) found”, or something of that nature, even though one was clearly supposed to be present.

Some of the other bells and whistles also seemed to be interfering with Firefox’s functionality, too.

So I just trashed the whole thing.

 

I know other people have had different experiences, but, well, that was mine. I’d try it again if I knew it was being supported, but as it clearly isn’t, I just no longer see the point in wasting my time and effort.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 12, 2018 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

Gene
 

If you had images blocked, it wouldn't work.  If you had JAVA scripts off or blocked, I doubt it would work either.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

I don’t quite remember the process, but I did acquire an account somewhat recently after receiving an invitation code from a friend. Maybe 2015?

However, Webvism nonetheless never successfully solved anything for me. I remember repeatedly getting the message “no captsha (sp) found”, or something of that nature, even though one was clearly supposed to be present.

Some of the other bells and whistles also seemed to be interfering with Firefox’s functionality, too.

So I just trashed the whole thing.

 

I know other people have had different experiences, but, well, that was mine. I’d try it again if I knew it was being supported, but as it clearly isn’t, I just no longer see the point in wasting my time and effort.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 12, 2018 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I don’t quite remember the process, but I did acquire an account somewhat recently after receiving an invitation code from a friend. Maybe 2015?

However, Webvism nonetheless never successfully solved anything for me. I remember repeatedly getting the message “no captsha (sp) found”, or something of that nature, even though one was clearly supposed to be present.

Some of the other bells and whistles also seemed to be interfering with Firefox’s functionality, too.

So I just trashed the whole thing.

 

I know other people have had different experiences, but, well, that was mine. I’d try it again if I knew it was being supported, but as it clearly isn’t, I just no longer see the point in wasting my time and effort.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: September 12, 2018 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] [nvda] link for firefox 52 esr last version to support full webvisum

 

Gene,

         God only knows why your general stance is to say "black" when anyone else says "white," but it's as annoying as hell.

          I got an invitation from a member here in 2016.  I went through the registration process.  That's where the process stopped.  Nothing comes back.

          If anyone, and I do mean anyone, can complete a new account registration for Webvisum there are a very great many who would love to know how to do so.  I haven't seen a single example of success in several years and know that my own, following their instructions and getting an invitation from a member, went into the great bit bucket in the sky.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

Monte Single
 

Is qread free, or how much?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: September-13-18 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

I find that search works in qread but have trouble searching for text in acrobat reader.

On 9/13/18, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I know that QRead is specifically designed for the blind, but are
there any advantages it has in reading PDFs that make it significantly
better than Adobe Acrobat with NVDA?




Re: ZoomText problem

Larry Silvermintz <silvermintz@...>
 

Thanks for your reply.  Here’s what I did and why:

1) The 9.1 version of ZT has a better web finder and works well with Win 7.

2) I’m sticking with Win 7 because it’s a good system that I have all configured and stable.

3) NVDA is nice to use, because it has the character symbol pronounciation dictionary, but we saw how it conflicts with ZT 9.1 Mag-Reader.

4) ZT 2018 is not stable with my Win 7.

5) So... I used my Retrospect to restore the whole drive to a previous state before the problem started.  NVDA is still installed, but crashed ZT when I tried to use it last.  I then rolled-forward my data files.

 

I probably should remove NVDA, but I’m hanging on for a suggestion about how they can safely coexist.

 

 

So, My next move will probably be to try Win 10 when 7 is discontinued with the ZT Fusion.  Who out there knows if Jaws has good character pronounciation control or not.

 

A friend also offered to help me try a Linux system; I wonder if anyone has had experience with a Linux Magnifier-reader.

 

Thanks, --Larry

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Desert Moon
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ZoomText problem

 

 Hello Larry,

 

I have been using ZoomText for more than 15 years.

 

ZoomText 9.1 is a very old program designed for 32-bit Windows XP. So, Windows 7 is somewhat foreign to ZT 9.1. I suspect that when NVDA was installed, it changed some system environments which had been used by ZT 9.1 but subsequently were unable to be reverted or reclaimed by ZT 9.1.

 

At this point, there are three avenues you can consider pursuing.

 

Option one: reinstall Windows 7 and then ZT 9.1.

 

Option two: upgrade you ZT 9.1 to ZT 2018. If you get the Magnifier and Reader iteration, you don’t need NVDA. But the upgrade can easily cost you US$500.

 

Option three: Upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10

 

If you have a legitimate version of Windows 7, here is the link to the proper process:

 

https://www.zdnet.com/article/heres-how-you-can-still-get-a-free-windows-10-upgrade/

 

ZT 9.1 won’t work in Windows 10. But Windows 10 comes with full-screen magnification, invert colours and Narrator. Of course, you can install NVDA for reading. With the help of these tools, I don’t see the need for ZT 2018.

 

 

 

 


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Re: Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

The Adobe Acrobat find feature is weird and doesn't quite work nicely with screen-readers in my experience.

You should have both Adobe and qRead on your system if you want, imo.
I like qRead mostly because it is fast as hell. If you set Adobe to load the entire document, which is wise if you really want proper functionality to work, but then try to open a really large file, you've no doubt noticed how irritatingly long it takes to process. qRead can do this in just a few seconds. So I like how small and snappy it is by comparison.

However, sometimes you will just need the Adobe product instead. qRead doesn't always seem to show document formatting properly. You can't print from it if I remember right, and anyway, if formatting is wanky, you wouldn't want to. You can't fill out forms. Etc, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: September 13, 2018 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobe Acrobat vs. QRead

I find that search works in qread but have trouble searching for text in acrobat reader.

On 9/13/18, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
I know that QRead is specifically designed for the blind, but are
there any advantages it has in reading PDFs that make it significantly
better than Adobe Acrobat with NVDA?




Re: skype new version

anthony borg
 

Hi inamuddin

That’s what I’m doing to answer. Ctrl+shift+p, but unfortunately it isn’t working.

Is there some settings that I have to do to make it working?

If so, could you please explain to me how to do it?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 September 2018 19:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

To answer:

Ctrl+shift+p

And to hang up:

Ctrl+e

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Dear inamuddin,

Could you please tell me what’s the shortcut to answer a call on that latest version you sent me of the skype?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 September 2018 10:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Respected sir, first of all, Classic Skype is still working.

Secondly, as far as the latest Skype is concern, it is Skype 8.30.0.50

For the sake of tutorial,

Go to youtube and type Skype electron-inamuddin

you will find my tutorial!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Hello folks

As the old version of skype stopped running, even the shortcuts that we used to use aren’t any longer used for other new versions.

If there is someone that is using one of the latest skype version for pc. I would be very greatful if he send me the version number and the shortcuts to use it please, I really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 September 2018 10:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: skype new version

 

One tricky thing I find with Emoji is that different platforms have different icons for them so things can look quite different.  Sometimes I hear NVDA describe an emoji and my first reaction is "Really? Is THAT was that thing is meant to be?"

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

I just hope people do not start putting them onto these emails.
I can of course hear them if I use Espeak latest version but the effect seems not to work on all synths. I have no idea even with the descriptions what the  idea of the actual imogees are. I can tell a smiley but that is about the  sum of what I ever used, being a text only junkie! Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1


Hi Paul,

Press WINDOWS+. or WINDOWS+; to open the emoji panel, then either right
arrow through the items in the current section, press tab to move to the
sections and arrows to choose a new section, or start typing to search for
emoji, eg "cake"
🍰, "Smiling" or "firetruck" 🚒 (as with many other
search fields, you don't necessarily have to type the full thing - I typed
"fire" to narrow the results down to a handful to get the fire truck).

Press ENTER to insert your chosen emoji, and escape to close the panel.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:16 AM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:

and can you tell me, how can I create an emoticon while emoticons add-on
is disabled?
i think it is very good possible that you're right!
please help.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Op 12-9-2018 om 18:26 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Try disabling or removing the emoticon add-on see if that helps any, as
nvda now supports emoticons itself





*From: *P. Otter <pam.otter@...>
*Sent: *12 September 2018 16:28
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1



best forum members,

I have downloaded the nvda 2018.3 rc1 and put it into use.

but I am not entirely positive, there is still something here and there.

Like, I have already experienced a number of times, that I used the

emoticon add-on, often it goes well but suddenly without any apparent

reason it gets stuck.

With alt tab I can then go back to the text where I wanted to place an

emoji.

but it is not going well. Only after I have restarted nvda again can I

place an emoticon again.

are there more people who have the same problem?

with nvda 2018.2 I did not have these problems.

do I have to update the emoticon add-on?

is it available?

with a curious greeting

paul otter








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Re: NVDA and amazon

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Uhh, this is not true.  When you are on the accessible pages, there is a link on the page (I don't remember where, at the bottom most likely) that says return to desktop version of the site. Just click on that link, and you're back to the non accessible version of the site.  Why they remove functions from the accessible version of the site is something I'll never understand about companies who make mobile/accessible versions of their sites, but in most cases, they provide a method to get back to the desktop/main version of the site if needed.  I ran into this when I used the accessible version of the amazon site, then couldn't purchase/borrow kindle books on the pc.  I was extremely irritated until I found that link.

On 9/13/2018 10:30 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
The trouble with using their access page is that you will get a cookie that is a pain to remove.
If you are happy with the access pages for your only Amazon page option, then going to the access page is okay, but I dislike the lack of detail on the access pages, and once you go there, you will never get back to a regular amazon page again, no matter how hard you try.
You will have to use a different browser or remove the access page cookie they put into your browser.
I wasted many hours figuring this out because no matter what I did, I could not ever get a normal Amazon page after going to the access site.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [nvda] NVDA and amazon

I've also noticed this  issue lately. You might try www dot amazon dot com slash access. I've  written this out because my BrailleNote Touch doesn't always translate web addresses correctly. Anyway, I haven't tried buying a Kindle book using this  site, but I was able to order an Echo Dot today without any trouble so it's worth a looksee. Hope this helps.

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Re: Returns at Amazon.com don't work with screenreaders

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Sounds like the same problem NVDA has with checking out/purchasing books on the site.  Maybe the same set of keystrokes will do the task.

Tab to the button, use the NVDA-numpad minus key to move the NVDA cursor to the button/link, then press NVDA-shift-numpad enter, and the button/link gets hit properly.  Give that a try and see if it works for you.



On 9/13/2018 10:50 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Hi,

I’m on a Jaws list at home, and I sent this issue to this list, because I could not check an item for returns to Amazon.com, and no matter what I did, it would not work, and that is twice I have had to call their customer service about this to return an item, and they told me that the disability department will be notified, but nothing ever happens.

I tried it with both Jaws and NVDA and three different browsers.

I am more proficient with Jaws, so I’d like to know if maybe there is something I don’t know about NVDA that could have done this for me.

Here’s part of the thread explaining the problem, there is my message and one or two replies of Jaws users that could not do the same thing…

 

Hi,

Jaws 2018, Windows 7 & IE.

I need to return an item, but I cannot because I cannot check the item.

I have moved to it with the X key and enter and space bar don't check it.

I tried insert + F5 and moved to it, and entering does not check it.

I try the continue button every time, in case it is checking it but not

saying

checked.

I have tried the number pad mouse click and that does not work.

Any other ideas?

 

 

have you tried tabbing away and back to the checkbox.

sometimes the status of the box will be spoken if you do this after you

press enter or space bar on it.

have you tried tabbing around on the page after the virtual cursor is turned

off.

sometimes if you start at the top of the screen and keep tabbing you will

land on the check box, edit box, combo box etc.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Glenn / Lenny

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 6:23 PM

 

If I toggle the PC cursor, there is no checkbox.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 8:13 PM

Subject: Re: [] Can't Check An Item On Amazon.com

Another wrote:

I just did this process a few minutes ago and had the same problem with the

check box.  I had my wife come up and help.  She said there was no check box

but a control with up and down pointers.  Using these pointers she was given

a list of choices for the return.  Once a choice was selected the continue

would work.  I detected no way Jaws could handle this function.

DD

 

 

have you tried doing this with the virtual pc cursor off?;

 

-----Original Message-----

Subject: Can't Check An Item On Amazon.com

Finally, another wrote in that she cannot make it work for her and she too contacted customer service to do the transaction and she complained to deaf ears.

Glenn

 



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o/t, referring to previous discussion of Kodi

Jackie
 

https://www.welivesecurity.com/2018/09/13/kodi-add-ons-launch-cryptomining-campaign/

Basically, it would appear that Kodi is being used to infect computers
for purposes of cryptomining/jacking. Just FYI for whoever's
interested. Caveat emptor.

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Re: skype new version

Inam Uddin
 

To answer:

Ctrl+shift+p

And to hang up:

Ctrl+e

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Dear inamuddin,

Could you please tell me what’s the shortcut to answer a call on that latest version you sent me of the skype?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Inam Uddin via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 September 2018 10:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Respected sir, first of all, Classic Skype is still working.

Secondly, as far as the latest Skype is concern, it is Skype 8.30.0.50

For the sake of tutorial,

Go to youtube and type Skype electron-inamuddin

you will find my tutorial!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype new version

 

Hello folks

As the old version of skype stopped running, even the shortcuts that we used to use aren’t any longer used for other new versions.

If there is someone that is using one of the latest skype version for pc. I would be very greatful if he send me the version number and the shortcuts to use it please, I really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Anthony

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 13 September 2018 10:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: skype new version

 

One tricky thing I find with Emoji is that different platforms have different icons for them so things can look quite different.  Sometimes I hear NVDA describe an emoji and my first reaction is "Really? Is THAT was that thing is meant to be?"

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

I just hope people do not start putting them onto these emails.
I can of course hear them if I use Espeak latest version but the effect seems not to work on all synths. I have no idea even with the descriptions what the  idea of the actual imogees are. I can tell a smiley but that is about the  sum of what I ever used, being a text only junkie! Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1


Hi Paul,

Press WINDOWS+. or WINDOWS+; to open the emoji panel, then either right
arrow through the items in the current section, press tab to move to the
sections and arrows to choose a new section, or start typing to search for
emoji, eg "cake"
🍰, "Smiling" or "firetruck" 🚒 (as with many other
search fields, you don't necessarily have to type the full thing - I typed
"fire" to narrow the results down to a handful to get the fire truck).

Press ENTER to insert your chosen emoji, and escape to close the panel.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:16 AM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:

and can you tell me, how can I create an emoticon while emoticons add-on
is disabled?
i think it is very good possible that you're right!
please help.
thanks in advance!
paul otter


Op 12-9-2018 om 18:26 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Try disabling or removing the emoticon add-on see if that helps any, as
nvda now supports emoticons itself





*From: *P. Otter <pam.otter@...>
*Sent: *12 September 2018 16:28
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] problems with nvda2018.3rc1



best forum members,

I have downloaded the nvda 2018.3 rc1 and put it into use.

but I am not entirely positive, there is still something here and there.

Like, I have already experienced a number of times, that I used the

emoticon add-on, often it goes well but suddenly without any apparent

reason it gets stuck.

With alt tab I can then go back to the text where I wanted to place an

emoji.

but it is not going well. Only after I have restarted nvda again can I

place an emoticon again.

are there more people who have the same problem?

with nvda 2018.2 I did not have these problems.

do I have to update the emoticon add-on?

is it available?

with a curious greeting

paul otter









--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess