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NVDA and Amazon

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone else has been having trouble using NVDA with Amazon. I've had this issue ever since I've gotten NVDA and was wondering if anyone else had it.
Here is the issue step by step.
1. I log on to Amazon.
2. I type something into the search field.
3. I then press the lettter H to navigate by heading.
4. When I get to what I'm lookink for, I hit enter.
5. Nothing happens.
The only way I can click on links is to use the tab key.
Is anyone else having this issue?
Thanks
Chris
Re: [NVDA] NVDA 2016.2 RC1 crashes

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Yeah, I think that may be what messed it up. I uninstalled NVDA 2016.2 RCA and rinstalled 2016.1 for the moment. I was going to download NVDA 2016.2 RC1 again, but I can't find the link.
Chris
Re: [NVDA] NVDA 2016.2 RC1 crashes

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

That's odd. I'm running WIN 10 64 bit. Did you do a recent upgrade to WIN 10?

On 5/30/2016 1:20 PM, Chris Shook wrote:
Windows 10. After I updated from windows 8.1 to windows 10, it started crashing sometimes.
Re: [NVDA] NVDA 2016.2 RC1 crashes

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Windows 10. After I updated from windows 8.1 to windows 10, it started crashing sometimes.
Re: [NVDA] NVDA 2016.2 RC1 crashes

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Nerp. What are you running? How long are you using NVDA befor she blows captain?

On 5/30/2016 12:31 PM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone else had NVDA 20.16.2 crash periodically?
Thanks
Chris
[NVDA] NVDA 2016.2 RC1 crashes

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Has anyone else had NVDA 20.16.2 crash periodically?
Thanks
Chris
Re: NeedEasiestWayToDiscoverMyError

Bob J
 

Edit boxes? All attempts to do so were completely ignored.

Already tried reset to factory settings: Didn't help!

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NeedEasiestWayToDiscoverMyError


What happens when you try to activate edit boxes?
Try the obvious thing. NVDA menu, Reset configuration to factory defaults.
You'll keep your addons, but will have to reset a few of your speech
settings.
On 5/30/2016 8:06 AM, Bob J wrote:
It seems I must have mistakenly pressed a key combination which has
altered the behavior of my installed version of NVDA!

I was using NVDA version 2015.4 on my Win7, 64-bit machine to access

www.amazon.com/access

very successfully up to sometime last week.

Then, the next time I went to that access point, I could read the
display but I could not access edit boxes or activate buttons and
links. All attempts to do so were completely ignored.

Guessing that the Amazon web-site programmers had been tinkering again,
I thought that perhaps, if I updated to NVDA version 2016.1, it would
overcome some new condition on the web site. So, I updated, however,
the problem persists!

This morning, I used my XPPro machine, which is still running NVDA
version 2015.4, to access the above mentioned access point. Everything
there worked as it should! I suppose I could continue to use that
machine to access the Amazon site, however, that machine is much slower
than the Win7 machine.

Incidently, the WinXP machine is running InternetExplorer Version:
8.0.6001.18702. The Win7 machine is running InternetExplorer version 11
and FireFox's latest version, whatever that is. I experience the same
conditions described above on the Win7 machine with both of its browsers
even though it both of those browsers had been working fine previously.

So, I am convinced that the problem with NVDA's inability to properly
behave on the Win7 machine when accessing the Amazon access point is
unrelated to the version of NVDA or the version of the browsers.

The question is, therefore, what is the easiest way to identify which
key combination could I have pressed to cause the problem and what do I
need to do to undo the damage?

All helpful suggestions appreciated!

Bob


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Re: NeedEasiestWayToDiscoverMyError

Gene
 

I doubt this problem has anything to do with NVDA.  It only affects one web site, at least that appears to be the case from what is said.  And there is no NVDA setting that can cause this combination of behaviors.  You can do things like stop NVDA from reporting various structures and controls but not to stop NVDA from acting on them if you issue commands to act on them. 
 
Gene

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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NeedEasiestWayToDiscoverMyError

What happens when you try to activate edit boxes?
Try the obvious thing. NVDA menu, Reset configuration to factory defaults.
You'll keep your addons, but will have to reset a few of your speech
settings.
On 5/30/2016 8:06 AM, Bob J wrote:
> It seems I must have mistakenly pressed a key combination which has
> altered the behavior of my installed version of NVDA!
>
> I was using NVDA version 2015.4 on my Win7, 64-bit machine to access
>
> www.amazon.com/access
>
> very successfully up to sometime last week.
>
> Then, the next time I went to that access point, I could read the
> display but I could not access edit boxes or activate buttons and
> links.  All attempts to do so were completely ignored.
>
> Guessing that the Amazon web-site programmers had been tinkering again,
> I thought that perhaps, if I updated to NVDA version 2016.1, it would
> overcome some new condition on the web site.  So, I updated, however,
> the problem persists!
>
> This morning, I used my XPPro machine, which is still running NVDA
> version 2015.4, to access the above mentioned access point.  Everything
> there worked as it should!  I suppose I could continue to use that
> machine to access the Amazon site, however, that machine is much slower
> than the Win7 machine.
>
> Incidently, the WinXP machine is running InternetExplorer Version:
> 8.0.6001.18702.  The Win7 machine is running InternetExplorer version 11
> and FireFox's latest version, whatever that is.  I experience the same
> conditions described above on the Win7 machine with both of its browsers
> even though it both of those browsers had been working fine previously.
>
> So, I am convinced that the problem with NVDA's inability to properly
> behave on the Win7 machine when accessing the Amazon access point is
> unrelated to the version of NVDA or the version of the browsers.
>
> The question is, therefore, what is the easiest way to identify which
> key combination could I have pressed to cause the problem and what do I
> need to do to undo the damage?
>
> All helpful suggestions appreciated!
>
> Bob
>
>
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> things people know that ain't so." --Edwin Howard Armstrong
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Re: NeedEasiestWayToDiscoverMyError

Tyler Spivey
 

What happens when you try to activate edit boxes?
Try the obvious thing. NVDA menu, Reset configuration to factory defaults.
You'll keep your addons, but will have to reset a few of your speech
settings.

On 5/30/2016 8:06 AM, Bob J wrote:
It seems I must have mistakenly pressed a key combination which has
altered the behavior of my installed version of NVDA!

I was using NVDA version 2015.4 on my Win7, 64-bit machine to access

www.amazon.com/access

very successfully up to sometime last week.

Then, the next time I went to that access point, I could read the
display but I could not access edit boxes or activate buttons and
links. All attempts to do so were completely ignored.

Guessing that the Amazon web-site programmers had been tinkering again,
I thought that perhaps, if I updated to NVDA version 2016.1, it would
overcome some new condition on the web site. So, I updated, however,
the problem persists!

This morning, I used my XPPro machine, which is still running NVDA
version 2015.4, to access the above mentioned access point. Everything
there worked as it should! I suppose I could continue to use that
machine to access the Amazon site, however, that machine is much slower
than the Win7 machine.

Incidently, the WinXP machine is running InternetExplorer Version:
8.0.6001.18702. The Win7 machine is running InternetExplorer version 11
and FireFox's latest version, whatever that is. I experience the same
conditions described above on the Win7 machine with both of its browsers
even though it both of those browsers had been working fine previously.

So, I am convinced that the problem with NVDA's inability to properly
behave on the Win7 machine when accessing the Amazon access point is
unrelated to the version of NVDA or the version of the browsers.

The question is, therefore, what is the easiest way to identify which
key combination could I have pressed to cause the problem and what do I
need to do to undo the damage?

All helpful suggestions appreciated!

Bob


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NVDA keeps announcing "Pane"!

Mailing Lists
 

Hi All,

I have been trying to find out the cause of why NVDA on two of my computers
keeps announcing "Pane" whenever I alt + tab between windows. Is this a
normal thing for NVDA to do or can it be somehow stopped. It becomes
annoying after some time of moving between windows.
I am using two computers with Windows 7 on both.
Any suggestions would be welcome.

Many thanks,

Paul.
































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NeedEasiestWayToDiscoverMyError

Bob J
 

It seems I must have mistakenly pressed a key combination which has altered the behavior of my installed version of NVDA!

I was using NVDA version 2015.4 on my Win7, 64-bit machine to access

www.amazon.com/access

very successfully up to sometime last week.

Then, the next time I went to that access point, I could read the display but I could not access edit boxes or activate buttons and links. All attempts to do so were completely ignored.

Guessing that the Amazon web-site programmers had been tinkering again, I thought that perhaps, if I updated to NVDA version 2016.1, it would overcome some new condition on the web site. So, I updated, however, the problem persists!

This morning, I used my XPPro machine, which is still running NVDA version 2015.4, to access the above mentioned access point. Everything there worked as it should! I suppose I could continue to use that machine to access the Amazon site, however, that machine is much slower than the Win7 machine.

Incidently, the WinXP machine is running InternetExplorer Version: 8.0.6001.18702. The Win7 machine is running InternetExplorer version 11 and FireFox's latest version, whatever that is. I experience the same conditions described above on the Win7 machine with both of its browsers even though it both of those browsers had been working fine previously.

So, I am convinced that the problem with NVDA's inability to properly behave on the Win7 machine when accessing the Amazon access point is unrelated to the version of NVDA or the version of the browsers.

The question is, therefore, what is the easiest way to identify which key combination could I have pressed to cause the problem and what do I need to do to undo the damage?

All helpful suggestions appreciated!

Bob


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Re: Virtual Recorder

Gene
 

The program does have settings to adjust such things as monaural and stereo and other recording parameters such as the bit rate.
 
Gene

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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder

Well I don't really use it for that, I would use a real sound
recorder/editor which as the full range of adjustments.
 I only really use it for recording the unrecordable streams.
 I suspect if its a laptop it may well have no stereo mode in any case. I
found that my old Dell seems to, but its burried in the hardware settings
for the sound card.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jolene Cardenas" <joe.haiku@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder


> hello everyone,
>
> Thank you for your responses about this program.
>
> I had installed it last night on my Windows 10-based laptop and had to
> make some minor adjustments in the Enhancements menu in the Advanced
> tab because the audiorecording from my sound card, RealTech High
> Definition Audio Device, was coming out sounding real funny.
> Just so you folks would know: I use my RealTech High Definition Audio
> Device for both playback and recording.
> The only thing I don't like is that Virtual Recorder records through
> it in mono instead of in stereo.
> How can I make adjustments to my RealTech High Definition Audio Device
> in order to make it record in stereo?
> Thanks in advance for your recommendations, and have a good day.
>
> aloha,
>
> Jolene.
>
>
>



Re: Virtual Recorder

Gene
 

I suspect the program is set to record in monaural.  That isn't the default, as I recall, but make sure the recording parameters are set to create a stereo file.  I have never seen settings in sound cards for recording in monaural or stereo.  The only settings I've seen have been in recording programs.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder

hello everyone,

Thank you for your responses about this program.

I had installed it last night on my Windows 10-based laptop and had to
make some minor adjustments in the Enhancements menu in the Advanced
tab because the audiorecording from my sound card, RealTech High
Definition Audio Device, was coming out sounding real funny.
Just so you folks would know: I use my RealTech High Definition Audio
Device for both playback and recording.
The only thing I don't like is that Virtual Recorder records through
it in mono instead of in stereo.
How can I make adjustments to my RealTech High Definition Audio Device
in order to make it record in stereo?
Thanks in advance for your recommendations, and have a good day.

aloha,

Jolene.
Re: Can anyone actually get into this web site?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

 

  Here are my firefox plugins 

Google Talk Plugin Version 5.41.3.0 More Release Notes: Loading… Always Activate

Google Update Google Update More Release Notes: Loading… Always Activate

Java(TM) Platform SE 8 U91 Next Generation Java Plug-in 11.91.2 for Mozilla browsers More Release Notes: Loading… Always Activate

OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc. This plugin is automatically installed by Mozilla to comply with the WebRTC specification and to enable WebRTC calls with devices that require … More Release Notes: Loading… Options Always Activate

VLC Web Plugin VLC media player Web Plugin More Release Notes: Loading… Always Activate

Google Talk Plugin Video Renderer Version 5.41.3.0 More Release Notes: Loading… Ask to Activate

Java Deployment Toolkit 8.0.910.14 is known to be vulnerable. Use with caution. More Information Java Deployment Toolkit 8.0.910.14 NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy More Release Notes: Loading… Ask to Activate

Adobe Acrobat (disabled) Adobe PDF Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape 11.0.16 More Release Notes: Loading… Never Activate

Primetime Content Decryption Module provided by Adobe Systems, Incorporated (disabled) Play back protected web video. More Release Notes: Loading… Options Never Activate

Shockwave Flash (disabled) Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0 More Release Notes: Loading… Options Never Activate

and extentions 

DownThemAll! The mass downloader for Firefox. More Release Notes: Loading…

Greasemonkey A User Script Manager for Firefox More Release Notes: Loading…

and User Scripts

Kill Windowless Flash Makes windowless (transparent or opaque) Adobe Flash objects windowed so they have a chance of being accessible. More Release Notes: Loading…

 

  I can't say the kill windowless script made a difference, may be it does. 

  I am not sure what is actually playing the audio. 

  Pete

On 5/27/2016 6:42 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I did installed the said addons but it does not  play either.Maybe something is broken or missing from this sites though I heard that nvda says embedded object unavailablebut the sites loads successfully except with the embeded object does not play on the background. Also, I don't have any addons installed from my nvda.

Robert mendoza
On 5/27/2016 5:50 PM, John from Woodside Apps wrote:
Hello
It then sounds like a content issue that is stopping your NVDA.

Install the firefox addon you block origin
and then try it.

John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android Apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=6590954580289174510
IOS Apps
https://itunes.apple.com/us/developer/john-sturt/id1089097833

On 27/05/2016 10:32, Robert Mendoza wrote:
I tested below mentioned link by Brian but no luck nor to play it from
here. on the Firefox version 46.0.1 and currently using the 2016.2 RC of
nvda as well. I used either the work around by playing embedded object
of nvda plus slash and slash alone but does not load. I'm using Windows
10 Pro 64-bit

Robert mendoza

On 5/27/2016 5:11 PM, John from Woodside Apps wrote:
I am using
Firefox 46.0.1
on a good old win 7 pro 64bit machine
with NVDA last release not the current RC.

John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android Apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=6590954580289174510
IOS Apps
https://itunes.apple.com/us/developer/john-sturt/id1089097833

On 27/05/2016 09:10, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
What browser are you using?
On Firefox it is just as I suggest.

Maybe they have not tested it properly.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can anyone actually get into this web site?


Seems fine to me
Apparently the centre is closed on bank holiday monday


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IOS Apps
https://itunes.apple.com/us/developer/john-sturt/id1089097833

On 27/05/2016 08:33, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
http://www.chessingtonsportscentre.co.uk/#navigation

When I try, I get a link to  go to somewhere and an embedded object
unavailable, and that is it. the link does nothing at all. This is in
firefox 46 on windows 7 with any version of nvda.
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Re: Can anyone actually get into this web site?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

sorry

firefox 46.something windows 7 64 bit pro

Pete

On 5/27/2016 4:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
What browser are you using?
On Firefox it is just as I suggest.

Maybe they have not tested it properly.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "John from Woodside Apps" <jjsturt@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can anyone actually get into this web site?


Seems fine to me
Apparently the centre is closed on bank holiday monday


John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android Apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=6590954580289174510
IOS Apps
https://itunes.apple.com/us/developer/john-sturt/id1089097833

On 27/05/2016 08:33, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
http://www.chessingtonsportscentre.co.uk/#navigation

When I try, I get a link to go to somewhere and an embedded object
unavailable, and that is it. the link does nothing at all. This is in
firefox 46 on windows 7 with any version of nvda.
Brian
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Re: Can anyone actually get into this web site?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Home - Chessington Sports Centre

it tells about there centre.

seems to be normal

Pete

On 5/27/2016 3:33 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
http://www.chessingtonsportscentre.co.uk/#navigation

When I try, I get a link to go to somewhere and an embedded object unavailable, and that is it. the link does nothing at all. This is in firefox 46 on windows 7 with any version of nvda.
Brian
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Re: CAn anyone get this webinar to play?

Pete <emac00@...>
 

OK

go to the page

down arrow to clear

up arrow to clickable above clear and hit enter

Pete

On 5/26/2016 10:27 PM, Stephen wrote:
Hi, is anyone able to help me play this webinar?
http://slides.nfinite.com/slides/slideViewer.php?eventID=83910171&downloadEnable=1
I'm told there's a circle with a play button in the middle that I have to click on, but it seems to be unreachable with NVDA.
Please help if you can, the webinar is only available for 48 hours.
Re: Universal accessibility pdf alt text support - NVDA

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Is that the Swiss project? Forget it... Totally useless!!! lol

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 30/05/2016 10:21, Aravind R ha scritto:
kindly check this link sir.
http://www.pdfa.org/2012/06/nvda-goes-pdfua-the-pdf-association-steps-up-to-fund-development-of-the-world%E2%80%99s-first-pdfua-conforming-screen-reader/

On 5/30/16, Rajesh <rajeshs@codemantra.co.in> wrote:
Dear all,



We are wondering whether NVDA screen reader can support reading of alt text
present inside the Universal accessibility pdf (PDF/UA). Please support and
guide us with required information and guidelines.



Kindly feel free to contact me for any more details or clarifications.



Thanks,

Rajesh





Rajesh

Sr. Technical Manager | OEO Team

eMail: <mailto:rajeshs@codemantra.co.in> rajeshs@codemantra.co.in

Phone: (+91)8754495193
Re: Windows 10 & NVDA with either Google Drive or other online storage service

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Is there an alternative for Dropbox seeing as this stops working on XP in august and I need to get at stuff on some of these machines in other locations from the win 10 and 7 machines using cut and paste to and from folders as with dropbox, withoug using on line browser operated systems.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Chao" <kevinchao89@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 & NVDA with either Google Drive or other online storage service


Drive desktop and web clients are really accessible. Please see following
help article and intro video:
https://support.google.com/drive/answer/6034939?hl=en
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 10:40 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Jolene

Google drive for storing of files like document, templates, and forms is
very accessible with the nvda. For further details and info you may visit
this link.

https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2424384?p=homescreen_redirect&hl=en&rd=2

You may also take time to utilize and use the built-in Microsoft One Drive as well for the Windows 10 for storing files as well.

Robert mendoza


On 5/29/2016 11:38 AM, Jolene Cardenas wrote:

Hello everyone,

Since I've never worked with online storage before in any form,
believe it or not, this is extremely new to me as a longtime Gmail and
Google search engine user!

Yet I now need to take advantage of this service because of some new
ministering opportunity I'm about to engage in at my church.

Can someone who uses both Windows 10 and NVDA please tell me how
user-friendly is Google Drive with these programs?

And if Google Drive isn't user-friendly with them, can you please
recommend another online storage service I could use?

Thanks so much for your folks' recommendation and/or feedback, for I'd
appreciate it more than you'll ever know!]

aloha,

Jolene.
Re: Virtual Recorder

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Berhinger seems to be the one most are advertising.

As regards the both setting, yes, that is right, its not vertual, but I notice that on some hardware, the monitor of a selected input can be recorded when not in both, but not on all machines, so I guess this points to the monitor function in some cases being hardware in the card, and in others software,whch is why one gets latency on some cards but not on others presumably.

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder


The point usually is that if you have any input selected and its monitor is on you will record it, however the big thing about virtual recorder is that it can record from the output so to speak as well as the input, thus any codec capable of sending sound to the output is recorded. Its called virtual because there is often not this option in the sound card software at all, however as the audio is indeed there, then it can be recorded. as was mentioned earlier its an all or nothing recorder in that all inputs and the streamed content are recorded when what you hear is selected. If other inputs are enabled with monitor then they too get recorded, so you need to be a bit careful.
Not tried it but one assumes if the line in is enabled and you have a hardware mixer in use and enable that input to monitor, Virtual record will also record that along with the system sounds and the screenreader, so you can do m demos.
I've recently found that it will work with that cheap but good quality little usb box sold under many names that has phono sockets aand auto volume setting so very good quality recordings can be made easily without overloading.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder


Your sound card has different settings such as line-in and microphone. If you set the sound card to a source, that is what you would be recording with it. If you set it to microphone, you would only record the microphone. Your sound card may not have a line-in setting. Many laptops don't have line in jacks and you need to use another sound card, such as a USB external sound card to get a line-in jack.

Virtual device doesn't use your sound card. Windows 7 and higher has something that can do what I described using the virtual device setting. I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss it further to any extent. The point is that it will record anything you hear through your sound card but your sound card is not what is being recorded from. I should add that I don't know if you can record things your sound card isn't set to play. But the point is that when you use virtual device as the setting, you can directly record your screen-reader. The microphone doesn't have to be used. You can record an Internet stream. You can record music and you speking using a microphone at the same time. I haven't played with it enough to go into detail about how you might turn off the internal microphone so that you would only record your screen-reader and, for example, and Internet stream. Others who have used this feature or the same feature in another program may be able to provide much more information.

I'm not sure where using the both setting would be an advantage.
I haven't used virtual device and other options in the program enough to discuss how to get desired results as to what sources are recorded. Perhaps all sources are recorded when using virtual device and you can't change them. In that case, if you want to record an internet stream, and not record the internal microphone, you might have to stop the microphone from functioning by plugging a plug into the microphone jack with nothing connected to it. But I'm speculating and just providing an example of how you might get around the problem. It is not necessarily the only or best way.

Also, XP users should know that the virtual device method can't be used in that version of Windows. The program can be used to record from the sound card but XP doesn't support the virtual device method of recording.

Gene
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder


Hi Gene,
Please explain this further. I had no idea about all of this. Could you please explain all three options and when you use which one. I keep it on both, because it records JAWS and my voice through a built in mike so I can do tutorials. When do you use the first and third choice. Also, what is the difference between a virtual device and your sound card. Could you give some examples of virtual devices, and why is the program called, virtual recorder? What you said makes this program more important than I thought. Thanks a lot. I like to learn, so I will enjoy what you have to say.


From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder

You keep saying the choice is between your sound card and your voice. When you record your voice, you are recording using the microphone input of your sound card. The real advantages of this program are that it allows you to record from both a virtual device and a sound card simultaneously so you can mix things in more ways. You can also record from just a virtual device. the virtual device ability allows you to record things such as Internet Streams even if your sound card doesn't support the What You Hear or Stereo Mix option. This option has other names as well. If your sound card supports it, you can record anything your sound card plays. It has become increasingly difficult to find sound cards that support StereoMix in later versions of Windows. Virtual Device gives you another way to do the same thing and may save you a good deal of fooling around and may save you the need to purchahse another sound card.

In other words, when you record from your soundcard, you can record whatever sources your sound card supports. If you set your sound card to line in, you can record line-in. If you set your sound card recording source to Microphone, you can record using your Microphone etc.

When using the virtual device setting, you can record as though your sound card supports stereo mix. But you are not recording using your sound card.

If this is difficult to understand, I'll attempt to explain it further but more people might be interested in the program and might realize more ways in which it can be used if they understand this distinction.

But one example is that if you want to record an Internet stream and your sound card doesn't support stereo Mix, you can use the virtual device setting to record the stream as it plays. But if you do, you can't do things such as use a screen-reader. The screen-reader will be recorded as well.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Recorder

Hi Jolene,
I have the link for the virtual recorder, that I will put below. It will
work on your Windows PC. A good friend, gave me this web site done by a guy
named Carlos nazario. The site, when brought up, just says files, and there
are a number of programs you can download from this site. Press H for
heading until you hear virtual recorder installer, or the next heading says
virtual recorder portable. I pressed enter on the virtual recorder installer
and installed it to my computer. After you install it, tab to settings and
set up a shortcut command for pause and some other tasks you will want
virtual recorder to do. It is very accessible. You will tab to a record
button and just press it to record. Now, there is a list that you must pick
a recording choice from. You can record what comes from the sound card, both
the sound card and your voice, , or just your voice. The top choice is the
first one and so on. Here is the link, and let me know if you have any
questions. Here is the link.
http://opopanax.net/download/
Take care.
David Moore


-----Original Message-----
From: Jolene Cardenas
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Virtual Recorder

Hello there,

I just did a Google search on "Virtual Recorder," which someone had
recommended for us Windows 10 users who're searching for a sound
recorder that'll work with both Windows 10 and NVDA.
Here's a few of the links I discovered:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ix.com.android.VirtualRecorder&hl=en

http://virtual-recorder.soft112.com/

One appears to be for Android phones, and the other one appears to be
some kind of stand-alone device, but I think some of us is looking for
one for PC's if such a software exists.

Then when I did a search for "Virtual Audio Recorder," I got this link:

http://www.virtualaudiorecorder.com/

So my question is this: Is it called Virtual Recorder, Virtual Audio
Recorder, or something else?

Please be specific, because even when one word of the software name is
off, a person will get the wrong information!

Thank you.

aloha,

Jolene.
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