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Re: contact you off list
Antony,
Done, and done from an e-mail I received with your message. I apologize and retract my prior statement, as it appears that Group Owners have the ability to customize what's at the end of Groups.io messages, though very few have done so (at least based on what I've seen in the groups I've been in [and sometime out] of on groups.io). Since I don't participate by e-mail, and virtually any test e-mail messages I have from the groups I've allowed them to come in from have the standard footers that's the only thing I've ever known to be there. I need to see if I have an ancient NVDA group message in my inbox, as I almost certainly do have one along with a couple of digests, to see if the group owner changed this at some point or if I just never noticed at all for this group. They're still coming in "the Groups.io standard way" for messages from all of the other groups (or I think it's all, some are so low traffic it could be weeks or a month or more until a message would come in). -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: contact you off list
Anthony, Below you will see what came to me just now in an e-mail message, as I changed my subscription to receive them for a short while. I hasten to add, and immediately, that you are correct and the link is not there. It appears that a feature has been added, which was not there at the outset, giving Group Owners the ability to customize the footers to the group's messages and Nimer must have done so at some point. I have old NVDA list messages and digests, as well as some from the JAWS for Windows group and the Windows 10 for screen reader user's group, and all have what had been the "Groups.io" standard collection at the end. I will apologize in public, too. As far as I'm concerned, though, it is an utterly bone-headed decision by any group owner, particularly for a blind or low-vision technology group, to remove the "Reply to Sender" link that groups.io does generate from their link collection in the footers. I am also in the process of researching when the ability for Group Owners to customize the footers came into existence, or if it's always been there and just so seldom used that I've now only seen it twice in the time I've been on Groups.io. Brian QUOTED FOOTER: "If it's got you screaming, I'll help you stop!!"
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RoadKill Main Site
Ervin, Glenn
Good stuff here: http://www.roadkil.net/index.php Glenn
Glenn Ervin Orientation Counselor II Norfolk Nebraska 402 370 3436 Cell: 402 992 0325
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Disk Writing Software that Works With NVDA
Ervin, Glenn
They have other free software. http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=12 Glenn
Glenn Ervin Orientation Counselor II Norfolk Nebraska 402 370 3436 Cell: 402 992 0325
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Re: contact you off list
Antony Stone
Yes, the View/Reply Online link is the first in the series.
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The email address in square brackets following the 'unsubscribe' link is *always* my own address - it is never the address of the person who sent the message I am reading (unless that was me, of course). Could you possibly quote the footers you see from this message posted by me? Thanks, Antony.
On Monday 17 September 2018 at 17:29:12, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you're seeing the View/Reply Online link, that's the first in the --
If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong oxen or 1024 chickens? - Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: contact you off list
If you're seeing the View/Reply Online link, that's the first in the series.
Here is a direct cut and paste of the footer from the end of a Groups.io message, received in plain text format, that I got from the Group_Help group on July 22nd. You will, of course, not be able to follow most of them since you're not a member of that group. My actual e-mail address is shown inside square brackets after the link "Unsubscribe," and I expect that those of you receiving the message via e-mail will be able to see it. For anyone reading via the web interface, the address will be partially redacted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#284) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: contact you off list
Ervin, Glenn
Sometimes I get the eMail address of someone on a list by forwarding the message to that person, and my client is set by default to have include the quoted message, and at the top I usually find the eMail address of the sender, so I select that and copy it, and shift tab to the "To" field and paste it.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:07 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] contact you off list I too am subscribed by email, and I *never* see a "Reply to Sender" link (or even reference) on any messages on this list. I imagine that it's possible that if people are using certain webmail systems, this may get shown, but I'm simply pointing out that it's not safe to assume that the way one person sees information *about* emails is the same for everyone. Obviously, the content of each message should be seen the same by everyone (except for the few people I see here who somehow end up posting HTML messages labelled as plain text, so all some recipients get is a very difficult-to-read mixture of words and HTML markup tags), but the information *about* messages (such as what the original sender's address is) is much more controlled by your own email client or other method of reading the messages, and therefore cannot be assumed to be the same for everyone. Antony. On Monday 17 September 2018 at 16:51:09, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: I think though that if you take certain decisions if you subscribe via-- Tinned food was developed for the British Navy in 1813. The tin opener was not invented until 1858. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: contact you off list
Antony Stone
Could you please quote the footers that you do see on a message (for example,
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this one) so that I can understand what you are seeing, because it doesn't macth what I am seeing. I'm not suggesting that you are "talking out of your ass", but neither do I like being told that I am not looking, because in response to a question like this I have looked very carefully at the footers to make sure I am not missing something. It is simply not there for me, and I therefore assume that it is not there for some other people either. I do see plenty of footers such as "View/Reply Online (#47513)", comments about who develops NVDA, a donation request, an invitation to join the IRC channel, announcments about NVDA on Facebook and Skypetalking for NVDA, and then at the end, the link to unsubscribe. Thanks, Antony.
On Monday 17 September 2018 at 17:10:50, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Antony Stone wrote:I imagine that it's possible that if people are using certain webmailThen you aren't looking. Unless you have some sort of bizarre client that --
"In fact I wanted to be John Cleese and it took me some time to realise that the job was already taken." - Douglas Adams Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: help with pagedown key
Ervin, Glenn
Here's a little trick I figured out years ago, regarding weak batteries.
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When you have a device that uses two batteries and they seem to be getting weak, simply swap their positions, so the one that was on the spring is not the one on the spring, or left battery swaps places with right battery, and you will get a lot more life out of those two batteries. I do this with my TV remotes and keyboards. Glenn
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 12:54 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] help with pagedown key I have had that happen on a few boards, and mostly its the board. A large note on this is if you have a wireless board or mouse, I have had windows do a lot of strange things with the boards, them not working or windows thinking keys are pressed and other crazyness. Usually the battery lights are on or something, sadly the effected users never have the batteries. And usually this issue happens at night, meaning all the stores are shut. I have it so people have batteries in stock, else I need to order online and get the morning delivery. On 9/17/2018 3:49 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote: I've had that happen with the modifier keys like control and alt more
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iTunes bug?
Matt Turner
Hi folks.
Just thought I'd give iTunes another try. So, I'm using the snapshot versions of NVDA, RC4. And the latest version of iTunes. So if your in your music view, and you have it to show by song,, with the Column Browser enabled, the list that shows, wont read when you down or up arrow. But I no that its moving, because when i tab to the song the name of the song changes. anyone else see this?
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Re: contact you off list
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
I imagine that it's possible that if people are using certain webmail systems,Then you aren't looking. Unless you have some sort of bizarre client that strips the ends from the messages this is a Groups.io feature. I see it in Gmail webmail, Outlook 2010 and 2016, Windows Live Mail, Opera Mail, and other clients. I'm not talking out of my ass here and I'm really tired of being told that what I know, without question, is there unless something outside Groups.io is removing it is not there. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: contact you off list
Anthony,
Am I safe in presuming you located the "Reply to Sender" link at the end of the message? If you are subscribed either to individual messages (whether in plain text or full format) or the digest in full format there will be a "Reply to Sender" included at the end of each and every message. They are there. I don't participate in many groups via e-mail, but there are one or two which are very low traffic which I do, and I know that these links come in on each and every message received. It's a feature of Groups.io. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: NVDA Remote, an add-on whose function could be implemented in NVDA
Ervin, Glenn
I agree, and if possible, it would be nice to be able to transfer files while in a remote session. Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Cc: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA Remote, an add-on whose function could be implemented in NVDA
Hello everyone!
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Re: contact you off list
Antony Stone
I too am subscribed by email, and I *never* see a "Reply to Sender" link (or
even reference) on any messages on this list. I imagine that it's possible that if people are using certain webmail systems, this may get shown, but I'm simply pointing out that it's not safe to assume that the way one person sees information *about* emails is the same for everyone. Obviously, the content of each message should be seen the same by everyone (except for the few people I see here who somehow end up posting HTML messages labelled as plain text, so all some recipients get is a very difficult-to-read mixture of words and HTML markup tags), but the information *about* messages (such as what the original sender's address is) is much more controlled by your own email client or other method of reading the messages, and therefore cannot be assumed to be the same for everyone. Antony. On Monday 17 September 2018 at 16:51:09, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: I think though that if you take certain decisions if you subscribe via the-- Tinned food was developed for the British Navy in 1813. The tin opener was not invented until 1858. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: accessible disk imaging software
Ervin, Glenn
RoadKill Disk Imaging software works well.
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If you don't find it, or if it is not provided, I can find the link to it. Glenn
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:47 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible disk imaging software Unfortunately not quite what I wanted. Basically, I was given a raspberrypi and want to burn an iso of Ubuntu server onto an SD card to put in the pi. I need some software on my Windows 10 PC that will do this for me. Thanks Luke On 16 Sep 2018, at 08:41, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Looking for a word processor
Ervin, Glenn
These portable versions of various programs can be copied from a RAM stick to the C: drive, or often installed directly to the C: drive.
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I have done the latter with NVDA and copied that folder out to a thumb drive when needed. Glenn
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for a word processor I think the purchased version of Jarte can, but not the free one. I guess you could download the portable version of Libra Office writer which somebody on here pointed me at some months back but I do not know how big it is, put it on a ramstick? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ann" <tate886@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 12:16 AM Subject: [nvda] Looking for a word processor Hi folks,
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Re: contact you off list
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I think though that if you take certain decisions if you subscribe via the site and not via email you can make it that your personal email or a link to it is not actually displayed in a clickable way
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Mine should be seen as I subbed by email. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] contact you off list At the end of each and every individual message you receive from groups.io there is a link, "Reply to Sender," that will allow you to initiate off-list contact with the person who wrote the message. It is a mailto link that gets handed to your e-mail client and will automatically populate the To field with the e-mail address and the subject with, "Private:," followed by the title of the original message on the group. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: contact you off list
anthony borg
Thanks very much for your info.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
At the end of each and every individual message you receive from groups.io there is a link, "Reply to Sender," that will allow you to initiate off-list contact with the person who wrote the message. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: Deleting comments in word
Akshaya Choudhary
Thanks Quentin! I thought something was wrong with my copy of the word
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: accessible sms texting from windows with NVDA
Ervin, Glenn
Do you know who's towers they are on?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Wolf Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 8:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible sms texting from windows with NVDA any idea what crickets info is for texting some one? On 9/14/2018 6:06 PM, Larry Silvermintz wrote: For those USA phone #s, I've done the email to SMS back and forth, but-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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