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Re: edge and web shortcuts

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Brian,

My default browser is edge.

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What is the default browser set as?

It sounds a bit like a windows issue. I've seen something similar in
windows 7 if a browser is launched with different syntax for the page you
wanted to go to so to speak.

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] edge and web shortcuts


Hi All,



I am using the latest win10 and nvda. Whenever I start my facebook
shortcut
and it loads I get the message invalid entry. But, when I do this within
edge it doesn't happen. It only happens with edge and desktop shortcuts.
Has anyone else noticed this? Can this be fixed? Thanks for any help.



Regards, Gary KN4Ox

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Re: edge and web shortcuts

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What is the default browser set as?

It sounds a bit like a windows issue. I've seen something similar in windows 7 if a browser is launched with different syntax for the page you wanted to go to so to speak.

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] edge and web shortcuts


Hi All,



I am using the latest win10 and nvda. Whenever I start my facebook shortcut
and it loads I get the message invalid entry. But, when I do this within
edge it doesn't happen. It only happens with edge and desktop shortcuts.
Has anyone else noticed this? Can this be fixed? Thanks for any help.



Regards, Gary KN4Ox

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edge and web shortcuts

Gary Metzler
 

Hi All,

 

I am using the latest win10 and nvda.  Whenever I start my facebook shortcut and it loads I get the message invalid entry.  But, when I do this within edge it doesn’t happen.  It only happens with edge and desktop shortcuts. Has anyone else noticed this?  Can this be fixed?  Thanks for any help.  

 

Regards, Gary KN4Ox

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Re: Web Browsers

Gene
 

Which is why, instead of expecting sighted site designers to change the layout of their sites, blind people should know what such "helpful" comments tell them.  The shape obviously doesn't matter.  But if something is on the left side of a site, such as the navigation links are, screen-readers place them at the top of the screen.  Then comes the main content, which is below the navigation links and which is in the center of the screen for sighted users, the center from left to right, it may be anywhere from top to bottom for a sighted user, then on the right, there is often a number of links which blind people see at the bottom of the screen.  So when a sighted person tells you that something is on the right middle of the screen, that means that, for a blind person, it will be near the bottom of the screen. 
 
A lot of blind people get poor instruction on how to use the Internet. 
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Browsers

The one thing that Jawes can afford to do is to make significant financial
clout to making a script work for a piece of software where the writers for
whatever reason are not prepared to make it obey conventions. Sadly this
same lack of expertise is now afflicting web sites again where accessibility
seems to men yes things should work but the clutter and complication factor
is far too high when you think about us blind folk not being able to get an
overview and general layout of a site. Helpful comments like the broken
green circle at the top left of the page are not welcome!
 Brian

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From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Browsers


> Hello Ian,
>
> Yes, I too noticed a Snappier behavior from this latest version of NVDA.
>
> I was using FireFox.
>
> As for the various Browsers being able to read all buttons, or Links, or
> different aspects on a Web Site-  Yes, I too have noticed this.
>
> I have been looking for work lately, and when on www.monster.com, a
> Employment Web Site, Sometimes I can read the Needed Links, and then
> other times, those links are not seen.
>
> Or once I've used them once, even if I return to the Main page of the
> web site, for what ever reason, I cannot find or read these links.  Have
> to shut down my Browser, and then re-visit the same site, and then those
> links will show up, but only sometimes.  Go Figure!
>
> And as far as differences between Screen Readers, Yes there too, I have
> noticed that one will read something better than the others.  I am a
> long time Window eyes user, who moved over to Jaws, and have had NVEA as
> the Screen Reader I call up to bail me out of Trouble when the others
> stop speaking.
>
> Over the last five years or so, I have actually found NVDA to be getting
> stronger and stronger.    In fact, when I needed to switch over to JAWS,
> at that time, I almost just switched to NVDA.  I have one program that
> NVDA will not read the screens, and Jaws does, so have been using Jaws.
>
> But, like I said, NVDA has come a long way, and is actually a very good
> Screen Reader.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>




StationPlaylist Studio add-on 18.10.1/18.09.3-LTS #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Shortly after release of SPL add-on 18.10, a broadcaster reported an issue where Studio won’t play the first track after an encoder was connected to a streaming server. After some investigation, the problem was traced to wxPython 4 (NVDA 2018.3.x) where text output would fail under some circumstances (specifically, wxPython 4 is more strict about where timers can be invoked from).

 

Because this affects everyone (except for people using really old builds) who are using NVDA 2018.3.x, I’m going to release version 18.10.1 and 18.09.3-LTS for those on stable and longterm channels, respectively. For those using development snapshots, revision A of September 21st build will also be released.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Still having problems with iTunes

Lino Morales
 

WIN 10 and I have 8 GB of ram. Running an i7 processor I think.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:51:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Still having problems with iTunes
 
What version of widows are you running, and what kind of processor and how much ram do you have?


Toggling On and Off Format Documents #addonrelease

David Kingsbury
 

Hello,

I have just discovered the document formatting tool and think it is great for checking formatting in my documents. Is there a way to quickly and easily toggle it on and off. I understand you can go into input gestures and do it for individual things in the dialogue box, but can you toggle on and off the entire set of elements with a single shortcut key? I don't want to have to go into the dialogue box and check and uncheck a bunch of check boxes every time I want to proofread my formatting.

Thanks for any help on this,
David Kingsbury


Re: NVDA 2018.3.1

Brice Mijares
 

Thank you.

On 9/21/2018 9:22 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I think this has to do more with number processing by speech synthesizers.
Cheers,
Joseph
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To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3.1
Why is the latest version call March first 2018 when it came out in September. Just curious.


Re: NVDA 2018.3.1

 

Hi,
I think this has to do more with number processing by speech synthesizers.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3.1

Why is the latest version call March first 2018 when it came out in September. Just curious.


NVDA 2018.3.1

Brice Mijares
 

Why is the latest version call March first 2018 when it came out in September. Just curious.


Re: Pumbered Lists in Word

kelby carlson
 

I figured out how to get NVDA to read me the numbers, at least. I'm still having issues getting the automatic numbers that I want when I have to edit things.

On 9/21/2018 9:58 AM, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:
Are you using the programs auto-numbering to number your paragraphs? Also, which version of Word are you using. If you would like to send me a private copy of an example file, I would be glad to figure out the best option.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn


On 9/21/18, 6:52 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelby carlson" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:

For some reason when I create a list in Word by numbering each paragraph, NVDA will not read the numbers once I have completed the list. Does anyone know a way to fix this?



StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 18.10, a note about GoldWave and Resource Monitor 18.10 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

In a few moments StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 18.10 will hit the air (released). Both will require NVDA 2018.3, and each of them has unique changes here and there:

 

  • SPL add-on 18.10: this is the stable version, so people on longterm (18.09.2-lts) channel won’t receive update notices. This release is now powered by wxPython 4, as well as making the code more compliant with Python 3 attitudes.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: in addition to making it compatible with NVDA 2018.3.x, add-on update facility will be turned off if you happen to be using Add-on Updater (a corresponding version of Add-on Updater will be released later today).

 

A note about Windows 10 App Essentials: after installing 18.10, you may notice Windows 10 App Essentials is no longer listed in NVDA’s preferences menu. This is the case if you are using Add-on Updater (proof of concept), as that add-on will check for Windows 10 App Essentials updates from now on (unless you disable Add-on Updater, in which case the update facility provided by Windows 10 App Essentials will be used). The full update functionality for WinTenApps will be enabled starting with Add-on Updater build to be released later today.

 

One more thing: yesterday, when I announced release of GoldWave and Resource Monitor 18.10, I said both includes a surprise. And the surprise: both add-ons are Python 3 compatible (yes, they do run and work as expected in Python 3 edition of NVDA). For those on add-ons list, you don’t have to worry about this until NV Access recommends porting your add-ons to Python 3. For folks on users list, keep an eye on this and start contacting add-on authors regarding wxPython 4 support, let alone Python 3 readiness when asked by NV Access.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: FW: [nvda-addons] Project Pylennium: updates, proposing start of Python 3 pre-transition activities

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Yes that is true, but one could easily set up a stick with two versions on it.


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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [nvda-addons] Project Pylennium: updates, proposing start of Python 3 pre-transition activities


Hi,
Windows 7 SP1 support: this is the reason why Espeak NG readiness is a
priority for some of us so folks on that OS can test it once binary versions
are ready.
Regarding 64-bit NVDA, as stated many times in the past, although it has
advantages, it could reduce appeal of NVDA for those wishing to use it as a
portable copy across bit boundaries.
Cheers,
Joseph

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start of Python 3 pre-transition activities

Hi, I'd just like to clarify that no actual release of nvda powered by the
new compiler is going to occur until all code runs on windows 7sp1.
Also what is the attitude these days to a 64 bit version on nvda itself, as
I feel such a move may well impact on some of the current bottlenecks in
processor core usage and other issues.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] FW: [nvda-addons] Project Pylennium: updates, proposing
start of Python 3 pre-transition activities


Hi everyone,

Although the below post is a bit technical, please keep an eye on it.
You won't feel the impact of what I outline regarding Python 3
transition for a while, but when it does, please listen to notices
from NV Access and add-on authors regarding Python 3. And no, wxPython
4 is not the same thing as Python 3.

Thanks.



From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
<nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:43 PM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development'
<nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [nvda-addons] Project Pylennium: updates, proposing start of
Python
3 pre-transition activities



Dear NVDA development and add-ons communities:



This is Joseph Lee, a student at California State University, Los
Angeles and a long-time NVDA add-on author and code contributor. I'd
like to announce some important updates regarding Project Pylennium.



For a while, some NVDA developers (mostly third-party contributors)
have been working on how to bring Project Pylennium - Python 3
transition - to life. After much discussion, NV Access and other
developers agreed to wait until a stable NVDA version powered by
wxPython 4.0.3 (Phoenix) is released before working on this project.
Now that NVDA 2018.3.x (powered by wxPython
4) has been released, it is time to move forward with this project a
bit, starting with pre-transition activities.



To kick this off, I'm delighted to announce that a prototype archive
of NVDA source code and dependencies powered by Python 3 is now
available. Apart from removal of data generated by SCons, the archive
is ready to run on Python 3.7 with some preparations, and. are you
ready for it: IT RUNS!
Well,
I must add that there are some important features missing or not
working as intended, but I'm sure this will be rectified as the
project moves forward.



Note that the archive is a prototype - please do not test this unless
your intention is to provide contributions to Python 3 transition
workflow once NV Access is ready to accept pull requests.



Archive link:

https://www.josephsl.net/files/pylennium/nvdapy37.zip



Things working:



* Windows OneCore synthesizer
* Python Console
* Sending log output to log file
* Object navigation commands
* Commands to configure options (NVDA+number row 2, for instance)
* Loading app modules



Things to be aware of:



* Requires Windows 10 until Espeak NG is ready.
* NVDA menu won't open due to division operator differences between
Python 2 nad 3
* Add-ons won't load
* Certain synth settings ring commands won't work
* Some braille displays won't work



The idea is to let seasoned developers (preferably third-party
contributors and/or a group of mainstream Python developers) test
ideas and porting issues and report their findings to NV Access. In
turn, when it comes time to actually transition NVDA source code and
add-ons to Python 3, data can be used to guide future work.



Second, a wiki page is being written to help you all move smoothly to
Python
3 and to coordinate this workflow. The document is subject to change based
on progress of pre-transition activities. The page in its current form can
be found at:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/nvdapy3



As always, the umbrella issue on Python 3 transition can be found on
GitHub
at:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7105



Along with other issues having "python 3" label added to them.



Lastly, I'd like to announce that I'm stepping back from Python 3
transition
workflow at this time (and, for that matter, NVDA code contributions for a
while). Besides automatic braille display detection (written by Babbage
B.V.) and various Windows 10 features support (mostly my work), the
biggest
change (and the most controversial one) in NVDA 2018.3.x has been moving
to
wxPython 4 (mostly my work with assistance from many). The results matched
my predictions from earlier this year: some notable add-ons not being
compatible with wxPython 4, hence notices throughout this summer (winter
for
those living in southern hemisphere).



At the moment I have mixed feelings about how we (NvDA community) handled
this change. Yes, wxPython 4 is a necessary stepping stone for moving to
Python 3, and yes, I understand that I was rather forceful in handling
certain parts of this journey. There are good things we did, and lessons
we
have learned so we can make Python 3 transition a smoother experience.
Even
for me, it was an interesting ride for the last three years (wxPython
Phoenix research began in 2015), and I know that I could have done things
better.



Recently, I hinted to some that my time as an active contributor to NVDA
screen reader is slowly coming to a close. As a first step, I'd like to
ask
that the community take an initiative to move forward with Python 3
transition (including other pre-transition activities); I feel that the
best
thing I can do for this work now is to provide the prototype archive and a
vision for its conclusion, along with some pull requests (one of them is
pending review). There is a feature I'd like to present as a token of
appreciation to those who've helped me for the past six years: add-on
update
checks, which will be impacted by Python 3 transition as well. But this
does
not mean I'm leaving the community: I'll still be around to give advice
regarding Project Pylennium.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph











Re: still have the windows mail problem

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Also what happens with my idea of going to cntrl/alt/delete and then hitting cancel on the lock the computer screen? For some unkwon reason at least in my windows 7, the inability of nvda to speak some stuff goes away when I do this.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: [nvda] still have the windows mail problem


Hi this is a still on going problem when I close windows mail NVDA stops speaking and I have to restart NVDA
Using the latest version of NVDA
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Re: Web Browsers

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The one thing that Jawes can afford to do is to make significant financial clout to making a script work for a piece of software where the writers for whatever reason are not prepared to make it obey conventions. Sadly this same lack of expertise is now afflicting web sites again where accessibility seems to men yes things should work but the clutter and complication factor is far too high when you think about us blind folk not being able to get an overview and general layout of a site. Helpful comments like the broken green circle at the top left of the page are not welcome!
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Browsers


Hello Ian,

Yes, I too noticed a Snappier behavior from this latest version of NVDA.

I was using FireFox.

As for the various Browsers being able to read all buttons, or Links, or
different aspects on a Web Site- Yes, I too have noticed this.

I have been looking for work lately, and when on www.monster.com, a
Employment Web Site, Sometimes I can read the Needed Links, and then
other times, those links are not seen.

Or once I've used them once, even if I return to the Main page of the
web site, for what ever reason, I cannot find or read these links. Have
to shut down my Browser, and then re-visit the same site, and then those
links will show up, but only sometimes. Go Figure!

And as far as differences between Screen Readers, Yes there too, I have
noticed that one will read something better than the others. I am a
long time Window eyes user, who moved over to Jaws, and have had NVEA as
the Screen Reader I call up to bail me out of Trouble when the others
stop speaking.

Over the last five years or so, I have actually found NVDA to be getting
stronger and stronger. In fact, when I needed to switch over to JAWS,
at that time, I almost just switched to NVDA. I have one program that
NVDA will not read the screens, and Jaws does, so have been using Jaws.

But, like I said, NVDA has come a long way, and is actually a very good
Screen Reader.



Dave




still have the windows mail problem

Mark <mark@...>
 

Hi this is a still on going problem when I close windows mail NVDA stops speaking and I have to restart NVDA

Using the latest version of NVDA

Mark.

 

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Re: converting EPUB to word offline

Akshaya Choudhary
 

 Alright. Thank you guys for your suggestions!

I convert epub or pdf files to word as it is easier to add comments and highlight text.. This is especially useful  while revising documents later on.
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Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Pumbered Lists in Word

Jonathan COHN
 

Are you using the programs auto-numbering to number your paragraphs? Also, which version of Word are you using. If you would like to send me a private copy of an example file, I would be glad to figure out the best option.

Take care,

Jonathan Cohn


On 9/21/18, 6:52 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelby carlson" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:

For some reason when I create a list in Word by numbering each paragraph, NVDA will not read the numbers once I have completed the list. Does anyone know a way to fix this?


Re: converting EPUB to word offline

Josh Kennedy
 

You can use codex, a front-end for calibre, found at:

http://jscholes.net/project/codex/


Re: Still having problems with iTunes

Josh Kennedy
 

What version of widows are you running, and what kind of processor and how much ram do you have?