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Files not showing

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 


Hi, I'm just starting to use my new Win10 machine.  I copied many files and folders from my documents folder of an older machine into the documents folder under "this pc" on the new one.  Now when I go to this pc and open the documents folder, all I see is folders; no files.  I know they're in there because I was accessing them before windows did an update.  Now they don't show up.  Neither in "this pc" nor in "file explorer".--my mistake: two filenames do show, an ini file and a zip file.  When I look at properties for the folder, I see that there are 286 items in there.
What should I do to get them back?
Thanks.
Sorry; I failed to mention that I'm using the current version of NVDA.  But the demo of jaws doesn't see the files either.
Howard


Nvda and mp3directcut

Annamaria
 

Ciao,

it works! Many thanks. fantastic.


Annamaria.


Re: addons

Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

if you want to find the most addons you can search on Github for "NVDA" and
you will find about 300 search entries where you can find every addon writer
and his addons. Many of them are not proven by the community and are not
posted on the international website. And many of them are source code which
has to be compiled with scons to generate an .nvda-addon file format.

But if you are a beginner I would advice you to stay with
addons.nvda-project.org because every addon is being proven in terms of
security and so on.

In fact, on apple you also stay on app store because unoficial app stores
can cause security issues.

Best
Adriani


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Gesendet: Sonntag, 30. September 2018 18:55
An: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Betreff: [nvda] addons

Someone in another post spoke about addons. the only address I have for
addons is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

Is there another?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Openwith barely usable with NVDA 2018.3


When launching a file type that has no associated eextension, windows pops
up a dialog asking what program with which to open the file.
Since upgrading to windows build 1803, this dialog is no longer read fully
by NVDA. When it comes up, NVDA says the word pane and nothing else. Object
navigation will take you to the various controls, such as the list of
applications, but single clicking does not bring the list to focus so that
it can be arrowed through. Nor can I use object navigation itself to read
the list. When pressing NVDA+numpad-7 to try and switch to screen review,
NVDA says nothing and review mode is not switched.
Is this a known issue?


Re: Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

Hi,

When you click “donate”, your default web browser will be opened to “support us” page on NV Access website.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

Hi joseph,

That’s really great.

When is the donate at the bottom of the menu would be activated again please?

I tried to if I would find a way how to do it on the website but unfortunately I didn’t managed.

Best regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 29 September 2018 18:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

Hi,

Ah, this one – although the add-on did some important things in the past, some of those important ones are now part of NVDA.

Things Windows 10 App Essentials can do include:

  • Suppressing unnecessary notifications in Calculator.
  • Announcing more alerts in Microsoft Edge.
  • Fixing bugs here and there in Settings app.
  • Providing needed commands for Skype in older Skype releases.
  • Announcing suggestion count (not just sounds) in some cases.
  • Improved access to Weather app and reading forecasts.

 

Things transferred to NVDA:

  • Search suggestion sounds.
  • Reading live text in various apps.
  • Detecting and reading dialogs in universal apps.
  • Working with emoji panel.
  • Reading text from dictation panel.
  • Announcing hardware keyboard input suggestions.
  • Navigating cloud clipboard history/paste screen (October 2018 Update).
  • Announcing notifications from various apps.

 

In fact, NVDA 2018.3.x includes important parts of Windows 10 App Essentials, namely working with modern Windows 10 input features and dialog detection.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

                What dows this addon actually do that can’t be done without it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rob Hudson
Sent: 29 September 2018 13:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

Removing the win 10 essentials addon fixed the problem.

 

 

 


Re: Update: Openwith Barely Usable

anthony borg
 

Hi joseph,

That’s really great.

When is the donate at the bottom of the menu would be activated again please?

I tried to if I would find a way how to do it on the website but unfortunately I didn’t managed.

Best regards

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 29 September 2018 18:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

Hi,

Ah, this one – although the add-on did some important things in the past, some of those important ones are now part of NVDA.

Things Windows 10 App Essentials can do include:

  • Suppressing unnecessary notifications in Calculator.
  • Announcing more alerts in Microsoft Edge.
  • Fixing bugs here and there in Settings app.
  • Providing needed commands for Skype in older Skype releases.
  • Announcing suggestion count (not just sounds) in some cases.
  • Improved access to Weather app and reading forecasts.

 

Things transferred to NVDA:

  • Search suggestion sounds.
  • Reading live text in various apps.
  • Detecting and reading dialogs in universal apps.
  • Working with emoji panel.
  • Reading text from dictation panel.
  • Announcing hardware keyboard input suggestions.
  • Navigating cloud clipboard history/paste screen (October 2018 Update).
  • Announcing notifications from various apps.

 

In fact, NVDA 2018.3.x includes important parts of Windows 10 App Essentials, namely working with modern Windows 10 input features and dialog detection.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

                What dows this addon actually do that can’t be done without it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rob Hudson
Sent: 29 September 2018 13:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update: Openwith Barely Usable

 

Removing the win 10 essentials addon fixed the problem.

 

 

 


Re: addons

 

Hi,
All I can say at this time is the address shown is the home for the
community add-ons.
I'm intentionally limiting my statement for two important reasons:
1. Yet another entry point for huge discussions: add-ons and where to find
them (and no, not exactly a pun on a Harry Potter book if you know what I
mean) is among top five discussion topics that tends to generate side
conversations (the topmost one is when the next NVDA will come out). In case
the thread degenerates into that, I'd like to request (as a code contributor
and add-ons community press secretary) to keep it civil please.
2. Other add-on hosting services: there are couple others out there, but the
position of the NvDA community is to direct you to the official community
add-ons website first. Although you can get add-ons from sites that does
host add-ons, there will come a time in the future where the community
add-ons website and add-ons hosted on there will offer additional services
(if you are using one particular add-on, you're effectively already tasting
the future).
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:55 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] addons

Someone in another post spoke about addons. the only address I have for
addons is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

Is there another?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Openwith barely usable with NVDA 2018.3


When launching a file type that has no associated eextension, windows pops
up a dialog asking what program with which to open the file.
Since upgrading to windows build 1803, this dialog is no longer read fully
by NVDA. When it comes up, NVDA says the word pane and nothing else. Object
navigation will take you to the various controls, such as the list of
applications, but single clicking does not bring the list to focus so that
it can be arrowed through. Nor can I use object navigation itself to read
the list. When pressing NVDA+numpad-7 to try and switch to screen review,
NVDA says nothing and review mode is not switched.
Is this a known issue?


addons

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Someone in another post spoke about addons. the only address I have for addons is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

Is there another?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson_3182@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Openwith barely usable with NVDA 2018.3


When launching a file type that has no associated eextension, windows pops up a dialog asking what program with which to open the file.
Since upgrading to windows build 1803, this dialog is no longer read fully by NVDA. When it comes up, NVDA says the word pane and nothing else. Object navigation will take you to the various controls, such as the list of applications, but single clicking does not bring the list to focus so that it can be arrowed through. Nor can I use object navigation itself to read the list. When pressing NVDA+numpad-7 to try and switch to screen review, NVDA says nothing and review mode is not switched.
Is this a known issue?


Re: Nvda and mp3directcut

Roger Stewart
 

It works very well with nvda and even better if you install the add on for it. It will then announce the position of the beginning and end markers as you move then so you know just what part of the file you've selected.

Roger

On 9/30/2018 7:22 AM, Annamaria wrote:
Hello all,

I nedd work with mp3directcut, but I cannot select the region to cut.

When I worked with Jaws I could read all parts of the window, but now with nvda I don't find what I need in the menu.

I ask:

Is it compatible with nvda?

Thanks.

Annamaria.



.


Re: Nvda and mp3directcut

 

hello.
yes, mp3 direct cut is very compatable with nvda.
i use it as my only audio editor.
its very simple and has not most effects of complex and professional,
so i selected it because of its simplicity.
also, fortunately its free and you dont have limitation to use it.
it also supports all versions of windows.

On 9/30/18, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Hello,
Have you tried the NVDA addon for this program?
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mp3DirectCut.en.html

cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annamaria
Sent: Sonntag, 30. September 2018 14:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and mp3directcut

Hello all,

I nedd work with mp3directcut, but I cannot select the region to cut.

When I worked with Jaws I could read all parts of the window, but now with
nvda I don't find what I need in the menu.

I ask:

Is it compatible with nvda?

Thanks.

Annamaria.








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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Nvda and mp3directcut

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Have you tried the NVDA addon for this program?
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mp3DirectCut.en.html

cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annamaria
Sent: Sonntag, 30. September 2018 14:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and mp3directcut

Hello all,

I nedd work with mp3directcut, but I cannot select the region to cut.

When I worked with Jaws I could read all parts of the window, but now with nvda I don't find what I need in the menu.

I ask:

Is it compatible with nvda?

Thanks.

Annamaria.


Re: Nvda and mp3directcut

Gene
 

I don't know how you worked with it with JAWS nor by contrast, with NVDA.  Are you familiar with NVDA ways of screen review such as object navigation and flat review?  Whether you are or not, it sounds as though you worked with NVDA Direct Cut in an inefficient and cumbersome matter with JAWS.  To select material you want to remove do the following:
Move to the beginning of the material you want to remove.  Set the start marker with the letter b.  Move to the end of the material you want to remove and set the end marker with the letter n.  Press delete.  the material is removed.
 
You may want or need more information such as how to make fine adjustments in the positions of the markers and how to hear where they are.  I won't go into all that here.  But if you are using a program relying on things like the JAWS cursor, it's a good idea to ask on a list like this if there is a more efficient way to work with the program.
 
A long time ago, I was learning Audacity and I found many controls I could use the JAWS cursor with, such as a record icon.  There were no menu commands for record or play.  I found out on a list, that just typing the letter r starts recording.  All that time fooling around looking for and using the icon when all I have to do is type r to start recording, space to stop recording, and other commands I won't go into here that are nowhere in the menus.
 
I expect you could find them in a list of program commands as well but in cases like this where there are only a very small number you want to know, the most efficient way to find out may be to ask on lists. 
 
In other words, don't assume what commands are present based on what is in menus.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Annamaria
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] Nvda and mp3directcut

Hello all,

I nedd work with mp3directcut, but I cannot select the region to cut.

When I worked with Jaws I could read all parts of the window, but now
with nvda I don't find what I need in the menu.

I ask:

Is it compatible with nvda?

Thanks.

Annamaria.




Nvda and mp3directcut

Annamaria
 

Hello all,

I nedd work with mp3directcut, but I cannot select the region to cut.

When I worked with Jaws I could read all parts of the window, but now with nvda I don't find what I need in the menu.

I ask:

Is it compatible with nvda?

Thanks.

Annamaria.


Re: Mouse Over

Gene
 

Not necessarily.  We don't know if whatever is displayed is accessible.  Mouse over, in my experience, hasn't been used much and that may be why no screen-reader other than JAWS uses it.  In addition, language is important.  This is not an app.  It is a feature.  it simulates hovering the mouse over a link and tells the blind person where the screen changes and allows the person to jump to that part of the screen. 
 
I doubt, though I don't know this, that the ITunes control is accessible.  I didn't use JAWS with it, as I recall, but I did move the mouse, using NVDA, to the link.  I then looked at the screen.  I saw nothing relevant. 
 
It would be interesting, and perhaps useful,  if this were evaluated systematically and properly. 
 
Gene

Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Over

I also feel that with very little effort the page designers could make their
pages far more usable with screenreaders. It sounds as if jaws has invented
a compromise mini app to get around the issue. It is not intuitive and
really a company like Apple should really fix their site so anyone can use
it. I wonder what narrator does on that page. Like most of us here. I do not
have an apple account so I doubt I can test it out unless there are some
free demos for guests.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Over


JAWS has a mouse over function.  NVDA doesn't.  I don't know if JAWS would
be at all useful in this context because I don't know what happens on screen
when you hover the mouse over a listen link.

You can move the mouse to your current position with NVDA but that isn't the
full ability that is necessary to work with mouse over links as you do in
JAWS.  JAWS announces where a change on the screen takes place and offers a
jump to dialog so you can enter the position information to move there and
see what has changed on screen.  JAWS also has a way for you to jump back to
the previous position.  In NVDA, the ability to move the mouse is just so
you can left click something after you move the mouse.  it has nothing to do
with telling you or allowing you to work with any changes on screen related
to a mouse over function.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Over


Ted,

           Normally I'd love to help you (or almost anyone) out, but since
this is an iTunes page, and I do not have iTunes nor an iTunes account the
things you see when you land on this page and what I'm presented with are
totally different.

           I know that mouse over has been discussed here before, and I
would have sworn there were actually mouse over commands documented for
NVDA, but I'm not finding them in the latest documentation.  I'll take a
quick look at the archive and see if I can find any topics that cover
dealing with mouse over menus.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals,
which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot
co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is
untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell












Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

john s
 

Ollie, here is something from Top Tidbits.

7) History of Speech Synthesis and Voice Assistants
This transcript contains lots of examples from the history of computerized voice communication:

http://bit.ly/2IjK5IA
At 08:23 AM 9/29/2018, Mallard, wrote:
Hello Rick,


I think this is something my friend Gemma will appreciate quite a lot!

Thanks for the link...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 29/09/2018 00:04, ely.r@... ha scritto:
Travis
Lost this thread, but now found it, wanted to send this site to you and friend.
Before Screen Readers, There had to be readers!
The site below is an auditory history of early speech synthesizers. Each sample has a brief description of who where and when it was developed. Obviously screen readers needed intelligible voices to be of any worth. It is incredible to see how far the technology developed and what approaches were used along the way.
Have fun!
Rick
http://www.festvox.org/history/klatt.html
n 9/28> And just to add to this, Window Bridge, was the first screen reader to
ever come out for windows. It came out around June of 1992. In the
beginning, their were about 10 windows products, which today, has been reduced today.
The 10 windows products that you saw in the market were:
Window Bridge
Syntha Voice, released on June 1992. Now gone.
Out Spoken for the mac and windows, Berkley systems, Alva access
group, released in 1994, now gone.

Dolphin Hal, now called Supernova
Yourdolphin.com

Screen power, Telussensory, now gone.
Artic Winvision, also gone.
ASAW, also gone.
JAWS
www.freedomscientific.com
Released January 20, 1995 First developed for DOS in 1989. Created by
Henter-Joyce, which became Freedom Scientific in 2000, which became
VFO-group in 2015.
Window-Eyes, now gone as of May 15, 2017.
Release date: October 16, 1995, until May 15, 2017.
Started out as Vocal-Eyes for DOS on February 15, 1990, Which was a
year before I was born on that same day. created by GW Micro.
Vocal-Eyes was the top DOS screen reader. Then, in 1995, GW Micro
released Window-Eyes on Monday, October 16, 1995. On January 14, GW
Micro and Microsoft released a version of Window-Eyes free with
office. This version worked with Office
2010 or up, and it came with two voices. Allowed you to purchase
DecTalk, Eloquence, Vocalizer, etc. Then, on May 1, GW Micro and AI Squared merged.
Then, on June 14, AI was acquired by VFO.

System Access:
Released date: 2005.
www.serotek.com
NVDA:
www.nvaccess.com
Release date: April 2006.
Developer: NV Access
I hope these notes help your friend with the history. Thanks, Sky.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Travis Siegel
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers
history for her thesis



On 9/26/2018 12:24 PM, Mallard wrote:
The first screen reader I ever used was Window Bridge, which I really
loved. Pity nobody took it up after David passed out so suddenly...
Actually, I tried. I bought the rights to the windowbridge source
code, but UPS lost the pc as it was being shipped from Canada to me
here in the U.S. His brother did send me cds with as much material as
he could find before sending the computer, but unfortunately, since he
wasn't a programmer, he missed some vital libraries required for the
proper compile of windowbridge, and since the ocmputer was lost, I was
never able to do anything with it. Quite a shame really, since I
personally thought it was an excellent product, and was very happy to
have gotten the rights to it.













John


Re: Mouse Over

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I also feel that with very little effort the page designers could make their pages far more usable with screenreaders. It sounds as if jaws has invented a compromise mini app to get around the issue. It is not intuitive and really a company like Apple should really fix their site so anyone can use it. I wonder what narrator does on that page. Like most of us here. I do not have an apple account so I doubt I can test it out unless there are some free demos for guests.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Over


JAWS has a mouse over function. NVDA doesn't. I don't know if JAWS would be at all useful in this context because I don't know what happens on screen when you hover the mouse over a listen link.

You can move the mouse to your current position with NVDA but that isn't the full ability that is necessary to work with mouse over links as you do in JAWS. JAWS announces where a change on the screen takes place and offers a jump to dialog so you can enter the position information to move there and see what has changed on screen. JAWS also has a way for you to jump back to the previous position. In NVDA, the ability to move the mouse is just so you can left click something after you move the mouse. it has nothing to do with telling you or allowing you to work with any changes on screen related to a mouse over function.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2018 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Over


Ted,

Normally I'd love to help you (or almost anyone) out, but since this is an iTunes page, and I do not have iTunes nor an iTunes account the things you see when you land on this page and what I'm presented with are totally different.

I know that mouse over has been discussed here before, and I would have sworn there were actually mouse over commands documented for NVDA, but I'm not finding them in the latest documentation. I'll take a quick look at the archive and see if I can find any topics that cover dealing with mouse over menus.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

~ Bertrand Russell


Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Arlene
 

Hi there: I've used screen power in the late 90s. Had to give it up.
Windows was coming leaving dos behind. My dos program and windows 95
were not compatible and it interfered with my class assignments. good
program

On 9/29/18, Clive May <clive.may@...> wrote:
Hi


Vert Plus a DOS screen reader. I was using it in the late 190s.





On 28/09/18 22:20, Sky Mundell wrote:
And just to add to this, Window Bridge, was the first screen reader to
ever
come out for windows. It came out around June of 1992. In the beginning,
their were about 10 windows products, which today, has been reduced
today.
The 10 windows products that you saw in the market were:
Window Bridge
Syntha Voice, released on June 1992. Now gone.
Out Spoken for the mac and windows, Berkley systems, Alva access group,
released in 1994, now gone.

Dolphin Hal, now called Supernova
Yourdolphin.com

Screen power, Telussensory, now gone.
Artic Winvision, also gone.
ASAW, also gone.
JAWS
www.freedomscientific.com
Released January 20, 1995 First developed for DOS in 1989. Created by
Henter-Joyce, which became Freedom Scientific in 2000, which became
VFO-group in 2015.
Window-Eyes, now gone as of May 15, 2017.
Release date: October 16, 1995, until May 15, 2017.
Started out as Vocal-Eyes for DOS on February 15, 1990, Which was a year
before I was born on that same day. created by GW Micro. Vocal-Eyes was
the
top DOS screen reader. Then, in 1995, GW Micro released Window-Eyes on
Monday, October 16, 1995. On January 14, GW Micro and Microsoft released
a
version of Window-Eyes free with office. This version worked with Office
2010 or up, and it came with two voices. Allowed you to purchase DecTalk,
Eloquence, Vocalizer, etc. Then, on May 1, GW Micro and AI Squared
merged.
Then, on June 14, AI was acquired by VFO.

System Access:
Released date: 2005.
www.serotek.com
NVDA:
www.nvaccess.com
Release date: April 2006.
Developer: NV Access
I hope these notes help your friend with the history. Thanks, Sky.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Travis
Siegel
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history
for
her thesis



On 9/26/2018 12:24 PM, Mallard wrote:
The first screen reader I ever used was Window Bridge, which I really
loved. Pity nobody took it up after David passed out so suddenly...
Actually, I tried. I bought the rights to the windowbridge source code,
but UPS lost the pc as it was being shipped from Canada to me here in
the U.S. His brother did send me cds with as much material as he could
find before sending the computer, but unfortunately, since he wasn't a
programmer, he missed some vital libraries required for the proper
compile of windowbridge, and since the ocmputer was lost, I was never
able to do anything with it. Quite a shame really, since I personally
thought it was an excellent product, and was very happy to have gotten
the rights to it.











Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Michael Munn
 

This is the plan from Vispero. This service is only for those people who are behind on their Jaws renewal. for US custemer only.
The portal service will make the Jaws license holder to activate and deactivate their Jaws License much easier. I personally think that this is a perfect step to take.
The License holder for once don't have to call Vispero to get their license reset again.
I don't know if you all know a screen reader called Fliper
It's developed by a college professor
He has a day job. If a person want to unlock their previous license they have to wait until the college professor get back from work.
I remembered Jonathan Mosen mentioned on one of his podcast that he have to get up in 4:00 in the morning New Zealand time just to get his Flipper unlocked.

Conclution:
The portal service will allow user of Vispero™ products to manage their own license 24—7.
No more waiting and no more worrying.
Best Regards
Michael Munn
Send from my Iphone.


Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Ian Blackburn
 

I take the same hardline again subscription services like that
With office just purchased the home and student edition
I’ve got office 2010 and will look at the new version next year sometime late next year
By then the developers of nvda would have got it working with office 2019
Regards Ian

On 30 Sep 2018, at 6:25 am, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:


While an average of 5 bucks a month isn't bad, I'm diametrically opposed to anything that requires my software be a subscription base. That means that if I (for whatever reason) don't, or can't pay the subscription, I loose access to that particular piece of software, and depending on what that piece of software is, that could spell disaster for me as a computer user. Nope, not happening. I refuse to use such services, which is why I will never buy a subscription to office 365. I don't mind paying for external services, such as storage, backups, and the like, but I will never pay for a subscription to something that is an integral part of my system, because if it gets turned off, I can no longer use my system, and that I will not tolerate.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Sky Mundell wrote:

saddened at FS right now. Basically, they are going to a subscription base
model for authorisation, in JAWS 2019. The way it is going to work, is in
the US, you will be able to purchase a home annual licence, but you will
have to keep renewing your subscription to keep JAWS authorised. Eventually,
all of the SMA's etc. will be in the portal, and everything will be
subscription baste for jfw. And I believe the price will be $60 per year.


Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

While an average of 5 bucks a month isn't bad, I'm diametrically opposed to anything that requires my software be a subscription base. That means that if I (for whatever reason) don't, or can't pay the subscription, I loose access to that particular piece of software, and depending on what that piece of software is, that could spell disaster for me as a computer user. Nope, not happening. I refuse to use such services, which is why I will never buy a subscription to office 365. I don't mind paying for external services, such as storage, backups, and the like, but I will never pay for a subscription to something that is an integral part of my system, because if it gets turned off, I can no longer use my system, and that I will not tolerate.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Sky Mundell wrote:

saddened at FS right now. Basically, they are going to a subscription base
model for authorisation, in JAWS 2019. The way it is going to work, is in
the US, you will be able to purchase a home annual licence, but you will
have to keep renewing your subscription to keep JAWS authorised. Eventually,
all of the SMA's etc. will be in the portal, and everything will be
subscription baste for jfw. And I believe the price will be $60 per year.


Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I tried cobra, couldn't get the hang of it. Took some doing to get it off my system too. When I tried it about a year or so ago, they were up to version 11 or 12 or something similar. Never did find out how well (or not) it worked, because I couldn't figure out how the hell to do anything with it. Their key combinations were all over the place, made no sense to me, and generally confused me, so I gave up, tried to remove it, whereupon I entered into a days long battle to remove it entirely from my system. Finally managed it, and vowed never to touch it ever again.