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Re: bookkeeping program
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Feel free to ask if you have any problems or questions. there is also an email list for moneytalks.
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I think the subscription info is on APH's page.
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From: "Jean" <jmarcleyhaha@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program Thank you all for your suggestions. Money Talks looks promising.
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Re: turning off the "sent with mail" signature
Rosemarie Chavarria
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From: Florian Ionașcu
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 9:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] turning off the "sent with mail" signature
Hello Rosemarie, you can turn off e-mail signatures following the steps bellow: Hope this helps. Cheers,
La 01.10.2018 19:15, Rosemarie Chavarria a scris:
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Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis
Mallard
Grat, thanks...
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Then it'll be up to her to work all this info out, but I'm glad you're providing so much stuff, because I can learn something as well. Ciao, Ollie
Il 30/09/2018 12:19, john s ha scritto:
Ollie, here is something from Top Tidbits.
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Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis
Mallard
Very interesting indeed. I'd never heard of this one. I worked at IBM during the '80's, but I used "dumb" terminale attached to mainframes or medium-size office systems. I did translations, not programming, so I worked with text processing programmes and an Optacon.
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Ciao, Ollie
Il 01/10/2018 15:37, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
Hi
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Re: turning off the "sent with mail" signature
Hello Rosemarie, you can turn off e-mail signatures following the steps bellow: Hope this helps. Cheers, La 01.10.2018 19:15, Rosemarie Chavarria a scris:
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Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
That's very interesting. Never had heard of such a thing before.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins Sent: October 1, 2018 9:37 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis Hi In the early 80's I used a German made, non-software based screen reader called Frank Audio Data to access Dos on IBM PC XT machines. The original was a replacement PC keyboard with the addition of horizontal and vertical slider controls topped with read buttons. Due to the screen in those days being 25 x 80 character cells, the sliders gave you tactile feedback and this, combined with audio output from the hardware provided excellent screen orientation. A later model retained the sliders in two separate units which worked alongside the standard PC keyboard. I found it extremely difficult to transition from DOS to Windows after working in an environment where I knew exactly how the screen looked to being unable to form a mental image of the screen layout. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: 29 September 2018 14:46 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis Hi going back farther still, the Apple 2E in the late 70s and early 80s had the text Tucker screen reader with the echo Cricket speech synthesizer. You can actually download be accessible mess Apple 2 emulator and see it working in action today if you want to. On September 28, 2018 4:55:49 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote: No, they go back further than dos. The comodore 64 ran cp/m, and it had a screen reader too, so screen reading packages didn't start with dos. On 9/26/2018 10:36 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote: Well, they go back as far as DOS, there's a lot of brands.
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turning off the "sent with mail" signature
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,
I’m using the mail app now and I do really like it. How do I turn off the “sent with mail” part of the signature? I don’t want to always hear that after signing a message.
Thanks in advance.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Looks like you need an archive of older versions then for these eventualities. Actually as I've said before, I am not happy about this fast churn of windows support, and as you suggest in your reply educational and corporate uses are not treated in this cavalier fashion, reinforcing my feeling that the great unwashed home user is being used as a live testbed every six months.
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I'd go over to 10 permanently if I could be sure half my legacy software would not need either reinstalling or bodging around with every six months. All this does is make people stay on windows 7 in my view. Not our fault, its Microsoft. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296 Hi, Ah, this was partly my decision… Windows 10 App Essentials supports a given feature update (1703, for example) for a limited time. This is in accordance with Windows as a Service where new operating system release is scheduled for twice a year. Typically, I support a given feature update for at least 12 months but no more than 18. Support also means supporting NVDA releases released at that time. The latest version of the add-on that’ll run happily on Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update/build 15063) is 18.06.2, as 18.07 requires Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299) and later. At the moment support for Version 1709 is scheduled to end this December with 18.12.x. To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum once Version 1809 era kicks in. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296 Yes, I am aware of this. Unfortunately, this is a school machine, therefore I can not invoke the update process myself. Therefore I was wondering what add-on version I should install until such time as the local IT person performs updates on our machines. On 10/1/2018 09:07, Brian Vogel wrote: Noah, Based on the title of your topic it's most likely NVDA telling you that your Version of Windows 10 (1703) is out of date. That version loses all support from Microsoft in 8 days. You should have moved along to Version 1709, followed by Version 1803, long ago. You need to update Windows 10 very, very soon. Ideally, you should take a full system image and separate user data backup of your current system before doing so. You can update your Windows 10 by going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10>; and invoking the Update Assistant with the "Update this PC" button. If you need a newer version of Win10 App Essentials after doing that, this is available on the NVDA Add-Ons Download Page <https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html>; . I would also suggest you visit the NVDA Add-Ons Under Development Page <https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html>; and snag a copy of the Add-On Updater add-nn, which monitors the add-ons you have installed to see if a newer version becomes available and will allow you to update immediately if you so choose. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Hi, Here it is (be sure to turn off add-on updates after installing this): https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.06/wintenApps-18.06.1A.nvda-addon Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 8:13 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Can a link be sent so I can install the latest version that supports my Windows 10 build?
On 10/1/2018 10:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Can a link be sent so I can install the latest version that
supports my Windows 10 build?
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Re: Files not showing
Gene
You don't change this setting in properties.
There is a specific setting to tell Windows to show hidden files. there
may be another to tell Windows to show system files. Since the files
appear to be there, they may be hidden or, less likely, have been incorrectly
designated as system files.
Gene
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In the properties control on the Documents folder,
it shows 286 files but when displaying the folder I see 13 subfolders and only
two files; an ini file and a zip file. Yes, I did start to put files into
the folders I created for them but I didn't get very many moved. When I
look at the subfolders, all the files that I moved do show up in there. I
don't remember file names so I can't very well do a search.
I don't know what kind of an update it did.
When I shut it down, it said it would do an update and then shut down. I
didn't get a choice. Maybe there's a place where I can roll back to before
the update; kind of like a restore point in xp.
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Re: Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon
Hi,
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Don't know about that for sure. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon Joseph, Does this map to the aria-descrbiedby field in web pages? Thanks, Jonathan On 10/1/18, 10:22 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Jim Fettgather" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jimfettgather@gmail.com> wrote: This is by no means a bug, in fact, I am amazed that NVDA does the following: When you start Word 2016, press Alt to bring focus to the ribbon, and begin to tab down through the various icons on the ribbon, NVDA announces helpful information that appears to be ignored by any other screen reader. In fact, I am not even certain whether or not the information is visible on the screen. For example, when you Tab to Cut, NVDA says, Remove the selection and put it on the clipboard so you can paste it somewhere else. So, how does NVDA do this, and where is this information originating, since others have told me they cannot see it on the screen. It is incredibly helpful and fantastic, I am just curious how it works. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Files not showing
Howard Traxler <howard@...>
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In the properties control on the Documents folder,
it shows 286 files but when displaying the folder I see 13 subfolders and only
two files; an ini file and a zip file. Yes, I did start to put files into
the folders I created for them but I didn't get very many moved. When I
look at the subfolders, all the files that I moved do show up in there. I
don't remember file names so I can't very well do a search.
I don't know what kind of an update it did.
When I shut it down, it said it would do an update and then shut down. I
didn't get a choice. Maybe there's a place where I can roll back to before
the update; kind of like a restore point in xp.
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Re: Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon
Jonathan COHN
Joseph,
Does this map to the aria-descrbiedby field in web pages? Thanks, Jonathan On 10/1/18, 10:22 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Jim Fettgather" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jimfettgather@gmail.com> wrote: This is by no means a bug, in fact, I am amazed that NVDA does the following: When you start Word 2016, press Alt to bring focus to the ribbon, and begin to tab down through the various icons on the ribbon, NVDA announces helpful information that appears to be ignored by any other screen reader. In fact, I am not even certain whether or not the information is visible on the screen. For example, when you Tab to Cut, NVDA says, Remove the selection and put it on the clipboard so you can paste it somewhere else. So, how does NVDA do this, and where is this information originating, since others have told me they cannot see it on the screen. It is incredibly helpful and fantastic, I am just curious how it works. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Yes, we are using the education version as far as I know.
On 10/1/2018 10:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon
Hi,
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This is controlled by Report Object Descriptions checkbox found int NvDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object Presentation panel. With this turned on, NvDA will try its best to gather control descriptions through whatever accessibility API the control uses 9UIA, in this case). Cheers, Joseph Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon This is by no means a bug, in fact, I am amazed that NVDA does the following: When you start Word 2016, press Alt to bring focus to the ribbon, and begin to tab down through the various icons on the ribbon, NVDA announces helpful information that appears to be ignored by any other screen reader. In fact, I am not even certain whether or not the information is visible on the screen. For example, when you Tab to Cut, NVDA says, Remove the selection and put it on the clipboard so you can paste it somewhere else. So, how does NVDA do this, and where is this information originating, since others have told me they cannot see it on the screen. It is incredibly helpful and fantastic, I am just curious how it works. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Hi, Ah, this was partly my decision… Windows 10 App Essentials supports a given feature update (1703, for example) for a limited time. This is in accordance with Windows as a Service where new operating system release is scheduled for twice a year. Typically, I support a given feature update for at least 12 months but no more than 18. Support also means supporting NVDA releases released at that time. The latest version of the add-on that’ll run happily on Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update/build 15063) is 18.06.2, as 18.07 requires Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299) and later. At the moment support for Version 1709 is scheduled to end this December with 18.12.x. To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum once Version 1809 era kicks in. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296
Yes, I am aware of this. Unfortunately, this is a school machine, therefore I can not invoke the update process myself. Therefore I was wondering what add-on version I should install until such time as the local IT person performs updates on our machines.
On 10/1/2018 09:07, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon
Jim Fettgather <jimfettgather@...>
This is by no means a bug, in fact, I am amazed that NVDA does the following:
When you start Word 2016, press Alt to bring focus to the ribbon, and begin to tab down through the various icons on the ribbon, NVDA announces helpful information that appears to be ignored by any other screen reader. In fact, I am not even certain whether or not the information is visible on the screen. For example, when you Tab to Cut, NVDA says, Remove the selection and put it on the clipboard so you can paste it somewhere else. So, how does NVDA do this, and where is this information originating, since others have told me they cannot see it on the screen. It is incredibly helpful and fantastic, I am just curious how it works. Thanks a lot.
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Re: Mouse Over
Jonathan COHN
There is an fairly accessible web interface to the Apple store infrastructure at: https://fnd.io
I searched for Blind Square there and found this page: https://fnd.io/#/us/podcast/948257850-blindsquares-posts-by-blindsquare
This site was used as a demo for developing accessible react web pages at a conference I was listening to online. FYI react is the component library used and developed by Facebook I did find after doing my search that there was little feedback that it had completed, but updated information was on the screen.
Jonathan . From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Ted <ted@...>
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Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis
Chris Mullins
Hi
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In the early 80's I used a German made, non-software based screen reader called Frank Audio Data to access Dos on IBM PC XT machines. The original was a replacement PC keyboard with the addition of horizontal and vertical slider controls topped with read buttons. Due to the screen in those days being 25 x 80 character cells, the sliders gave you tactile feedback and this, combined with audio output from the hardware provided excellent screen orientation. A later model retained the sliders in two separate units which worked alongside the standard PC keyboard. I found it extremely difficult to transition from DOS to Windows after working in an environment where I knew exactly how the screen looked to being unable to form a mental image of the screen layout. Cheers Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: 29 September 2018 14:46 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis Hi going back farther still, the Apple 2E in the late 70s and early 80s had the text Tucker screen reader with the echo Cricket speech synthesizer. You can actually download be accessible mess Apple 2 emulator and see it working in action today if you want to. On September 28, 2018 4:55:49 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote: No, they go back further than dos. The comodore 64 ran cp/m, and it had a screen reader too, so screen reading packages didn't start with dos. On 9/26/2018 10:36 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote: Well, they go back as far as DOS, there's a lot of brands.
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