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Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


As you probably have noticed Accessibilitycentral.net has not be accessible and the following message comes up when you try to access one of the pages Website is temporarily down due to file system failure. Recovery is in progress, please check back later. Sorry for inconveniences

.


The people we host with were alerted when i first noticed it and it has to be fixed on there end. I do not know when it will be back up but hopefully it is ASAP.


I guess this is maybe what you get some times when you host with a free provider? with no adds and only have to pay for the domain name.


It sounds pretty serious like the server hard drive took a dive?


If any one wants to access the material on it at present I can zip it up and drop box it until it comes back on line.

This will only be the website files not the audio files as every one has access to the internet mostly.


You will then need to unzip it and put it into a folder with the files. Then it is a matter of just accessing the index file for the website.


I might again even look at other options for hosting.


Let us know and can drop box to the list.


Gene nz



On 5/09/2018 8:11 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys


Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added a tutorial called The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS on the NVDA audio tutorials page

under trouble shooting.

Gene nz



On 9/08/2018 5:14 AM, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:

Actually there are 5 different menues in Skype Electron.

All the menues access with alt key.

Alt+e for edit menue.

Alt+f for file menue.

Alt+h for help menue.

Alt+t for tool menue.

And alt+v for view menue respectively.

For details, go to those menues and discover how much those menues are accessible.

I’m very sorry to let you know that most of us do not like to spend sometimes to explore new things and want to stick with old technology.

At the end all I can is “No gain without pain”!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

The Skype support page lags these hotkeys for Skype 8:

ALT plus F.

for a menu contains some features or options

ALT plus E

For the edit menu.

ALT plus T

for the tools menu.

ALT plus H

For the help menu.

 

 

 

On 8/7/18, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io <charlsdarwin1969@...> wrote:

> This key command will work for  both the things!

> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

> Charlsdarwin1

> You can contact me via gmail:

> inamuddin09@...

> Inamuddin.ronaque@...

> outlook:

> inam092@...

> yahoo:

> inamuddin2010@...

> Add my Skype ID:

> charlsdarwin1

> Meet me on facebook:

> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

> Follow me on my twitter ID:

> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

> Call me on my cell numbers:

> +92-300-2227598

> +92-334-3348409

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:40 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> Is that not to make a call? I would have to go back and check when i checked

> the short cuts i did not see any to answer. so this one works to answer a

> call?

> I wonder if any of the old short cuts would work? at moment i just get it to

> automatically answer it is alot easier.

> Gene nz

> On 8/7/2018 12:01 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene!

> Try CTRL+Shift+P

> It worked for me in Skype 8.25 as well as the Win10 app of Skype!!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 5:34 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> I have not gone through all the short cuts for skype either I copied the

> list from them and tried a few of them but not all. it just might be a focus

> thing with nvda not speaking that shorcut when preformed?

> Gene nz

> On 8/7/2018 9:24 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi

> I just had a quick look under the skype 8 short cut keys hopefully i googled

> the right list for skype 8 for desk top it mentions short cut keys for other

> stuff in skype. the list can be found here at

> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

> At the moment so i do not have to be in the screen under the calling section

> i think it is under your profile you can check the boxes to have it

> automatically answer in coming calls and videos that is what i have done at

> present.

> I thought also some one on this list said there was another short cut that

> worked but until it can be confirmed in this version by some one else i then

> will add it. It when i had a quick look did not mention a short cut for

> answer in coming calls or video calls may be still to be added?

> I do not mind the automatically answer part saves rushing and trying to

> figure which part of the screen to be in. It would of made sense to have

> left the old short cut keys from skype 7 in it.

> Gene nz

> On 8/6/2018 11:30 PM, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:

> hi,

> could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype c

> This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

> Homepage;

> http://tip.simpl.com/

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>

> wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for

> Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> The following tutorials have been added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:

> How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer

> Addon troubleshooting

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA

> related resources from around the world,

> please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following

> link NVDA screen reader related resources

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google

> translate will improve more in the near future.

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on

> the main web page.

> You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then

> press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

> For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on

> every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says

> some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the

> translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is

> already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it

> to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language

> combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language.

> it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also

> translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

> You will see what i mean when it is translated.

> it may help? for people where english is not there first language like

> mine.

> Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more

> or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

> Gene nz

> On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole

> community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the

> translations group.

> I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some

> suggestions.

> I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user

> specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as

> well.

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen

> reader related resources off the main website at

> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

> When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web

> pages on my website that point to that page.

> I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.

> These can be changed  or added to.

> Gene nz

> On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi Adriani

> Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources

> which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I

> will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda

> blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would

> be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

> Even though he had a good site.

> I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc

> but not in the one place.

> Gene nz

> On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Gene,

> thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome

> to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at

> that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

> Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do

> it the other way that was posted.

> I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

> The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble

> shooting.

> Gene nz

> On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Hello,

> we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which

> activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well

> and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this

> file:

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at

> https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

> You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

> So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to

> fix the problem.

> Gene nz

> On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

> hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.

> how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?

> does it have solution for users of xp?

> thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

> On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> HI guys

> Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> RECENTLY UPDATED:

> Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.

> Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which

> has been updated for 2018.1

> Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and

> product reviews page

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html

> NEW:

> Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA

> tutorials for other programs page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.

> Gene NZ

> On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene NZ!

> Thanks so much for what you do for us!

> God bless!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

> 10

> From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi guys

> Pages recently updated

> Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

> New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with

> the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page

> under the troubleshooting section

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a

> tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA

> tutorials learning the basics page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html

> Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the

> keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

> Gene NZ

> --

> [Image                NVDA certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> [Image NVDA          certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

>

 

 

 




NVDA & NVDA Add-On Archive Pages - Has there been consideration to creating these?

 

I have always found it a bit odd that NVAccess does not have, at least that I know of, an "Older Versions" page much like JAWS and many other software houses do.

It has become abundantly clear that there will be times when NVDA, or an NVDA Add-On, ends up being updated but that causes a lot of other stuff to break for an individual user for a wide variety of reasons.   It would be really nice if it were possible for the end user to have quick and ready access to, say, the immediately previous two or three releases of NVDA and the same for the Add-Ons.

Right now the roll-back process, unless one has created one's own personal archive of installers, is a cyclic one-off effort where someone "on the inside" has to dig out a link that can be used to get an older release.  Since these do not change after they are released (at least not typically) and certainly don't change once the next release is out in their prior release form, having archival access with ease just makes sense.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Strange pronunciations

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,

After upgrading to NVDA 2018.3, eSpeak is strangely pronouncing all words with the letter "y" when in the Portuguese brazilian language.

For example, the word "system" is being pronounced as "zystem".

Can someone communicate this to the eSpeak team?


Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Clive May <clive.may@...>
 

Hi


I recall being shown this at RNIB headquarters on a visit to the offices one day in the late 70x or early 80s.  I also recall it from the Rehab centre in Torquay around 1986 or 87.

.

On 01/10/18 17:35, JM Casey wrote:
That's very interesting. Never had heard of such a thing before.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: October 1, 2018 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Hi
In the early 80's I used a German made, non-software based screen reader called Frank Audio Data to access Dos on IBM PC XT machines. The original was a replacement PC keyboard with the addition of horizontal and vertical slider controls topped with read buttons. Due to the screen in those days being 25 x 80 character cells, the sliders gave you tactile feedback and this, combined with audio output from the hardware provided excellent screen orientation. A later model retained the sliders in two separate units which worked alongside the standard PC keyboard. I found it extremely difficult to transition from DOS to Windows after working in an environment where I knew exactly how the screen looked to being unable to form a mental image of the screen layout.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: 29 September 2018 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Hi
going back farther still, the Apple 2E in the late 70s and early 80s had the text Tucker screen reader with the echo Cricket speech synthesizer. You can actually download be accessible mess Apple 2 emulator and see it working in action today if you want to.


On September 28, 2018 4:55:49 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:

No, they go back further than dos. The comodore 64 ran cp/m, and it had a screen reader too, so screen reading packages didn't start with dos.



On 9/26/2018 10:36 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
Well, they go back as far as DOS, there's a lot of brands.
Try the NFB, they should have a historical perspective.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history
for her thesis

Hello all,

Please, forgive this O.T. This is the only list I'm on, so I thought
of asking here.

A friend of mine, her ein Italy, has been assigned a thesis on the
history and evolution of screen readers for Windows.

She doesn't seem to find any suitable material.

Would anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for some
documentation that might help her?

I know the request is a bit vague, but that's all I ahve for now.

Thanks in advance.

Ciao,
Ollie


















Re: bookkeeping program

Jean <jmarcleyhaha@...>
 

Thanks so much.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 10:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

Feel free to ask if you have any problems or questions. there is also an
email list for moneytalks.
I think the subscription info is on APH's page.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean" <jmarcleyhaha@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program


Thank you all for your suggestions. Money Talks looks promising.
Jean

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Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

For some reason older versions of Excel work better in NVDA, I suspect
half
the issue is that it keeps on being down, erm updated by Microsoft!
Brian

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From: "Rayn Darren" <rayndarren@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program


Totally understandable. I'm using Excel as well, but with Jaws as NVDA
doesn't seem to like it very much.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jean
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

Sarah,
Thank you for the offer. I want it only for my own personal finances and
am
currently using Excel.
I Used to use Quicken 98 but it became obsolete.
Jean
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

HI Jean,

I don't know of a program, I haven't tried quickbooks yet, but, if you
don't
find anything, I'd be happy to do your books for you. It's a service my
company provides, please feel free to contact me off list for more info.
Best of luck in finding a program though!

Sarah

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Jean
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] bookkeeping program

I am still looking for a bookkeeping program that can be EASILY accessed
by
NVDA. Quick Books would be my choice, but I don't want to spend the
money
if it won't work.
Is anyone using any kind of bookkeeping program that you can tell me
about?
Thanks so much.
Jean
PS: I am not a computer whiz. Most of what you all talk about is way
over
my head. I am a little old lady in Arizona working on my standup comedy
career. (smiles)











Re: bookkeeping program

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Feel free to ask if you have any problems or questions. there is also an email list for moneytalks.
I think the subscription info is on APH's page.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean" <jmarcleyhaha@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program


Thank you all for your suggestions. Money Talks looks promising.
Jean

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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

For some reason older versions of Excel work better in NVDA, I suspect half
the issue is that it keeps on being down, erm updated by Microsoft!
Brian

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From: "Rayn Darren" <rayndarren@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program


Totally understandable. I'm using Excel as well, but with Jaws as NVDA
doesn't seem to like it very much.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jean
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

Sarah,
Thank you for the offer. I want it only for my own personal finances and
am
currently using Excel.
I Used to use Quicken 98 but it became obsolete.
Jean
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] bookkeeping program

HI Jean,

I don't know of a program, I haven't tried quickbooks yet, but, if you
don't
find anything, I'd be happy to do your books for you. It's a service my
company provides, please feel free to contact me off list for more info.
Best of luck in finding a program though!

Sarah

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Jean
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] bookkeeping program

I am still looking for a bookkeeping program that can be EASILY accessed
by
NVDA. Quick Books would be my choice, but I don't want to spend the money
if it won't work.
Is anyone using any kind of bookkeeping program that you can tell me
about?
Thanks so much.
Jean
PS: I am not a computer whiz. Most of what you all talk about is way
over
my head. I am a little old lady in Arizona working on my standup comedy
career. (smiles)










Re: turning off the "sent with mail" signature

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thanks so much. I’ll give it a shot.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Florian Ionașcu
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 9:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] turning off the "sent with mail" signature

 

Hello Rosemarie, you can turn off e-mail signatures following the steps bellow:
1. Open Mail for Windows 10 app, navigate with Tab until you get focused on a button called settings, then press it.
2. After that, press Tab and, after you reach the button called signature, press it.
3. Then, search a checkbox called use an e-mail signature. Uncheck it and press eskape to close the pop-up window.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Florian

 

La 01.10.2018 19:15, Rosemarie Chavarria a scris:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m using the mail app now and I do really like it. How do I turn off the “sent with mail” part of the signature? I don’t want to always hear that after signing a message.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Mallard
 

Grat, thanks...


Then it'll be up to her to work all this info out, but I'm glad you're providing so much stuff, because I can learn something as well.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 30/09/2018 12:19, john s ha scritto:
Ollie, here is something from Top Tidbits.

7) History of Speech Synthesis and Voice Assistants
This transcript contains lots of examples from the history of computerized voice communication:

http://bit.ly/2IjK5IA
At 08:23 AM 9/29/2018, Mallard, wrote:
Hello Rick,


I think this is something my friend Gemma will appreciate quite a lot!

Thanks for the link...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 29/09/2018 00:04, ely.r@comcast.net ha scritto:
Travis
Lost this thread, but now found it, wanted to send this site to you and friend.
Before Screen Readers, There had to be readers!
The site below is an auditory history of early speech synthesizers. Each sample has a brief description of who where and when it was developed. Obviously screen readers needed intelligible voices to be of any worth. It is incredible to see how far the technology developed and what approaches were used along the way.
Have fun!
Rick
http://www.festvox.org/history/klatt.html
n 9/28> And just to add to this, Window Bridge, was the first screen reader to
ever come out  for windows. It came out around June of 1992. In the
beginning, their were about 10 windows products, which today, has been reduced today.
The 10 windows products that you saw in the market were:
Window Bridge
Syntha Voice, released on June 1992. Now gone.
Out Spoken for the mac and windows, Berkley systems, Alva access
group, released in 1994, now gone.

Dolphin Hal, now called Supernova
Yourdolphin.com

Screen power, Telussensory, now gone.
Artic Winvision, also gone.
ASAW, also gone.
JAWS
www.freedomscientific.com
Released January 20, 1995 First developed for DOS in 1989. Created by
Henter-Joyce, which became Freedom Scientific in 2000, which became
VFO-group in 2015.
Window-Eyes, now gone as of May 15, 2017.
Release date: October 16, 1995, until May 15, 2017.
Started out as Vocal-Eyes for DOS on February 15, 1990, Which was a
year before I was born on that same day. created by GW Micro.
Vocal-Eyes was the top DOS screen reader. Then, in 1995, GW Micro
released Window-Eyes on Monday, October 16, 1995. On January 14, GW
Micro and Microsoft released a version of Window-Eyes free with
office. This version worked with Office
2010 or up, and it came with two voices. Allowed you to purchase
DecTalk, Eloquence, Vocalizer, etc. Then, on May 1, GW Micro and AI Squared merged.
Then, on June 14, AI was acquired by VFO.

System Access:
Released date: 2005.
www.serotek.com
NVDA:
www.nvaccess.com
Release date: April 2006.
Developer: NV Access
I hope these notes help your friend with the history. Thanks, Sky.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Travis Siegel
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers
history for her thesis



On 9/26/2018 12:24 PM, Mallard wrote:
The first screen reader I ever used was Window Bridge, which I really
loved. Pity nobody took it up after David passed out so suddenly...
Actually, I tried.  I bought the rights to the windowbridge source
code, but UPS lost the pc as it was being shipped from Canada to me
here in the U.S.  His brother did send me cds with as much material as
he could find before sending the computer, but unfortunately, since he
wasn't a programmer, he missed some vital libraries required for the
proper compile of windowbridge, and since the ocmputer was lost, I was
never able to do anything with it.  Quite a shame really, since I
personally thought it was an excellent product, and was very happy to
have gotten the rights to it.













                John




Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Mallard
 

Very interesting indeed. I'd never heard of this one. I worked at IBM during the '80's, but I used "dumb" terminale attached to mainframes or medium-size office systems. I did translations, not programming, so I worked with text processing programmes and an Optacon.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 01/10/2018 15:37, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
Hi
In the early 80's I used a German made, non-software based screen reader called Frank Audio Data to access Dos on IBM PC XT machines. The original was a replacement PC keyboard with the addition of horizontal and vertical slider controls topped with read buttons. Due to the screen in those days being 25 x 80 character cells, the sliders gave you tactile feedback and this, combined with audio output from the hardware provided excellent screen orientation. A later model retained the sliders in two separate units which worked alongside the standard PC keyboard. I found it extremely difficult to transition from DOS to Windows after working in an environment where I knew exactly how the screen looked to being unable to form a mental image of the screen layout.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: 29 September 2018 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Hi
going back farther still, the Apple 2E in the late 70s and early 80s had
the text Tucker screen reader with the echo Cricket speech synthesizer. You
can actually download be accessible mess Apple 2 emulator and see it
working in action today if you want to.


On September 28, 2018 4:55:49 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:

No, they go back further than dos. The comodore 64 ran cp/m, and it had
a screen reader too, so screen reading packages didn't start with dos.



On 9/26/2018 10:36 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
Well, they go back as far as DOS, there's a lot of brands.
Try the NFB, they should have a historical perspective.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her
thesis

Hello all,

Please, forgive this O.T. This is the only list I'm on, so I thought of
asking here.

A friend of mine, her ein Italy, has been assigned a thesis on the history
and evolution of screen readers for Windows.

She doesn't seem to find any suitable material.

Would anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for some
documentation that might help her?

I know the request is a bit vague, but that's all I ahve for now.

Thanks in advance.

Ciao,
Ollie
















Re: turning off the "sent with mail" signature

 

Hello Rosemarie, you can turn off e-mail signatures following the steps bellow:
1. Open Mail for Windows 10 app, navigate with Tab until you get focused on a button called settings, then press it.
2. After that, press Tab and, after you reach the button called signature, press it.
3. Then, search a checkbox called use an e-mail signature. Uncheck it and press eskape to close the pop-up window.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Florian


La 01.10.2018 19:15, Rosemarie Chavarria a scris:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m using the mail app now and I do really like it. How do I turn off the “sent with mail” part of the signature? I don’t want to always hear that after signing a message.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That's very interesting. Never had heard of such a thing before.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: October 1, 2018 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Hi
In the early 80's I used a German made, non-software based screen reader called Frank Audio Data to access Dos on IBM PC XT machines. The original was a replacement PC keyboard with the addition of horizontal and vertical slider controls topped with read buttons. Due to the screen in those days being 25 x 80 character cells, the sliders gave you tactile feedback and this, combined with audio output from the hardware provided excellent screen orientation. A later model retained the sliders in two separate units which worked alongside the standard PC keyboard. I found it extremely difficult to transition from DOS to Windows after working in an environment where I knew exactly how the screen looked to being unable to form a mental image of the screen layout.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: 29 September 2018 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history for her thesis

Hi
going back farther still, the Apple 2E in the late 70s and early 80s had the text Tucker screen reader with the echo Cricket speech synthesizer. You can actually download be accessible mess Apple 2 emulator and see it working in action today if you want to.


On September 28, 2018 4:55:49 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:

No, they go back further than dos. The comodore 64 ran cp/m, and it had a screen reader too, so screen reading packages didn't start with dos.



On 9/26/2018 10:36 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
Well, they go back as far as DOS, there's a lot of brands.
Try the NFB, they should have a historical perspective.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] O.T.: A friend needs info on screen readers history
for her thesis

Hello all,

Please, forgive this O.T. This is the only list I'm on, so I thought
of asking here.

A friend of mine, her ein Italy, has been assigned a thesis on the
history and evolution of screen readers for Windows.

She doesn't seem to find any suitable material.

Would anyone have any suggestions as to where to look for some
documentation that might help her?

I know the request is a bit vague, but that's all I ahve for now.

Thanks in advance.

Ciao,
Ollie






turning off the "sent with mail" signature

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m using the mail app now and I do really like it. How do I turn off the “sent with mail” part of the signature? I don’t want to always hear that after signing a message.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Looks like you need an archive of older versions then for these eventualities. Actually as I've said before, I am not happy about this fast churn of windows support, and as you suggest in your reply educational and corporate uses are not treated in this cavalier fashion, reinforcing my feeling that the great unwashed home user is being used as a live testbed every six months.
I'd go over to 10 permanently if I could be sure half my legacy software would not need either reinstalling or bodging around with every six months. All this does is make people stay on windows 7 in my view.
Not our fault, its Microsoft.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296


Hi,

Ah, this was partly my decision…

Windows 10 App Essentials supports a given feature update (1703, for example) for a limited time. This is in accordance with Windows as a Service where new operating system release is scheduled for twice a year. Typically, I support a given feature update for at least 12 months but no more than 18. Support also means supporting NVDA releases released at that time.

The latest version of the add-on that’ll run happily on Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update/build 15063) is 18.06.2, as 18.07 requires Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299) and later. At the moment support for Version 1709 is scheduled to end this December with 18.12.x.

To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum once Version 1809 era kicks in.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296



Yes, I am aware of this. Unfortunately, this is a school machine, therefore I can not invoke the update process myself. Therefore I was wondering what add-on version I should install until such time as the local IT person performs updates on our machines.



On 10/1/2018 09:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

Noah,

Based on the title of your topic it's most likely NVDA telling you that your Version of Windows 10 (1703) is out of date. That version loses all support from Microsoft in 8 days. You should have moved along to Version 1709, followed by Version 1803, long ago. You need to update Windows 10 very, very soon. Ideally, you should take a full system image and separate user data backup of your current system before doing so.

You can update your Windows 10 by going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10> and invoking the Update Assistant with the "Update this PC" button. If you need a newer version of Win10 App Essentials after doing that, this is available on the NVDA Add-Ons Download Page <https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html> . I would also suggest you visit the NVDA Add-Ons Under Development Page <https://addons.nvda-project.org/dev.en.html> and snag a copy of the Add-On Updater add-nn, which monitors the add-ons you have installed to see if a newer version becomes available and will allow you to update immediately if you so choose.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

~ Bertrand Russell


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Hi,

Here it is (be sure to turn off add-on updates after installing this):

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/18.06/wintenApps-18.06.1A.nvda-addon

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Can a link be sent so I can install the latest version that supports my Windows 10 build?

 

On 10/1/2018 10:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Ah, this was partly my decision…

Windows 10 App Essentials supports a given feature update (1703, for example) for a limited time. This is in accordance with Windows as a Service where new operating system release is scheduled for twice a year. Typically, I support a given feature update for at least 12 months but no more than 18. Support also means supporting NVDA releases released at that time.

The latest version of the add-on that’ll run happily on Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update/build 15063) is 18.06.2, as 18.07 requires Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299) and later. At the moment support for Version 1709 is scheduled to end this December with 18.12.x.

To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum once Version 1809 era kicks in.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Yes, I am aware of this. Unfortunately, this is a school machine, therefore I can not invoke the update process myself. Therefore I was wondering what add-on version I should install until such time as the local IT person performs updates on our machines.

 

On 10/1/2018 09:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

Noah,

          Based on the title of your topic it's most likely NVDA telling you that your Version of Windows 10 (1703) is out of date.  That version loses all support from Microsoft in 8 days.  You should have moved along to Version 1709, followed by Version 1803, long ago.  You need to update Windows 10 very, very soon.  Ideally, you should take a full system image and separate user data backup of your current system before doing so.

          You can update your Windows 10 by going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page and invoking the Update Assistant with the "Update this PC" button.  If you need a newer version of Win10 App Essentials after doing that, this is available on the NVDA Add-Ons Download Page.   I would also suggest you visit the NVDA Add-Ons Under Development Page and snag a copy of the Add-On Updater add-nn, which monitors the add-ons you have installed to see if a newer version becomes available and will allow you to update immediately if you so choose.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Can a link be sent so I can install the latest version that supports my Windows 10 build?


On 10/1/2018 10:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Ah, this was partly my decision…

Windows 10 App Essentials supports a given feature update (1703, for example) for a limited time. This is in accordance with Windows as a Service where new operating system release is scheduled for twice a year. Typically, I support a given feature update for at least 12 months but no more than 18. Support also means supporting NVDA releases released at that time.

The latest version of the add-on that’ll run happily on Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update/build 15063) is 18.06.2, as 18.07 requires Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299) and later. At the moment support for Version 1709 is scheduled to end this December with 18.12.x.

To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum once Version 1809 era kicks in.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Yes, I am aware of this. Unfortunately, this is a school machine, therefore I can not invoke the update process myself. Therefore I was wondering what add-on version I should install until such time as the local IT person performs updates on our machines.

 

On 10/1/2018 09:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

Noah,

          Based on the title of your topic it's most likely NVDA telling you that your Version of Windows 10 (1703) is out of date.  That version loses all support from Microsoft in 8 days.  You should have moved along to Version 1709, followed by Version 1803, long ago.  You need to update Windows 10 very, very soon.  Ideally, you should take a full system image and separate user data backup of your current system before doing so.

          You can update your Windows 10 by going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page and invoking the Update Assistant with the "Update this PC" button.  If you need a newer version of Win10 App Essentials after doing that, this is available on the NVDA Add-Ons Download Page.   I would also suggest you visit the NVDA Add-Ons Under Development Page and snag a copy of the Add-On Updater add-nn, which monitors the add-ons you have installed to see if a newer version becomes available and will allow you to update immediately if you so choose.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 

 



Re: Files not showing

Gene
 

You don't change this setting in properties.  There is a specific setting to tell Windows to show hidden files.  there may be another to tell Windows to show system files.  Since the files appear to be there, they may be hidden or, less likely, have been incorrectly designated as system files.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Files not showing

In the properties control on the Documents folder, it shows 286 files but when displaying the folder I see 13 subfolders and only two files; an ini file and a zip file.  Yes, I did start to put files into the folders I created for them but I didn't get very many moved.  When I look at the subfolders, all the files that I moved do show up in there.  I don't remember file names so I can't very well do a search. 
 
I don't know what kind of an update it did.  When I shut it down, it said it would do an update and then shut down.  I didn't get a choice.  Maybe there's a place where I can roll back to before the update; kind of like a restore point in xp.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Files not showing

Consider the most simple possibility first.  Someone who uses Windows 10 can tell you how to do this.  Set Windows to show hidden files.  perhaps the files became hidden when the update occurred. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Files not showing

Try searching for the files using Windows search feature.

Maybe they somehow did not end up where you expect.

Also refreshing the file explorer window with f5 sometimes seems to help. But that’s probably not going to help you as you say you already opened the explorer window to your new folder *after* copying the files.

 

You could try other things. Go to where you think the documents ended up on the c (or whatever) drive and check the properties. Does it show space used by the folder? If it says “0 bytes”, it’s possible the files did not even copy.

 

I’ve never had files physically disappear after a windows update, but it’s possible something is screwed up with the documents library. You should still be able to access the actual documents folder. Maybe open the run box and type in the path to your personal documents folder and see what happens. In my case it would be “c:\users\jm\documents”.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: September 30, 2018 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Files not showing

 

Hi, I'm just starting to use my new Win10 machine.  I copied many files and folders from my documents folder of an older machine into the documents folder under "this pc" on the new one.  Now when I go to this pc and open the documents folder, all I see is folders; no files.  I know they're in there because I was accessing them before windows did an update.  Now they don't show up.  Neither in "this pc" nor in "file explorer".--my mistake: two filenames do show, an ini file and a zip file.  When I look at properties for the folder, I see that there are 286 items in there.
What should I do to get them back?
Thanks.
Sorry; I failed to mention that I'm using the current version of NVDA.  But the demo of jaws doesn't see the files either.

Howard


Re: Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon

 

Hi,
Don't know about that for sure.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon

Joseph,

Does this map to the aria-descrbiedby field in web pages?

Thanks,

Jonathan


On 10/1/18, 10:22 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Jim Fettgather" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jimfettgather@gmail.com> wrote:

This is by no means a bug, in fact, I am amazed that NVDA does the following:

When you start Word 2016, press Alt to bring focus to the ribbon, and
begin to tab down through the various icons on the ribbon, NVDA
announces helpful information that appears to be ignored by any other
screen reader.
In fact, I am not even certain whether or not the information is
visible on the screen. For example, when you Tab to Cut, NVDA says,
Remove the selection and put it on the clipboard so you can paste it
somewhere else.
So, how does NVDA do this, and where is this information originating,
since others have told me they cannot see it on the screen. It is
incredibly helpful and fantastic, I am just curious how it works.
Thanks a lot.


Re: Files not showing

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 


In the properties control on the Documents folder, it shows 286 files but when displaying the folder I see 13 subfolders and only two files; an ini file and a zip file.  Yes, I did start to put files into the folders I created for them but I didn't get very many moved.  When I look at the subfolders, all the files that I moved do show up in there.  I don't remember file names so I can't very well do a search. 
 
I don't know what kind of an update it did.  When I shut it down, it said it would do an update and then shut down.  I didn't get a choice.  Maybe there's a place where I can roll back to before the update; kind of like a restore point in xp.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Files not showing

Consider the most simple possibility first.  Someone who uses Windows 10 can tell you how to do this.  Set Windows to show hidden files.  perhaps the files became hidden when the update occurred. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Files not showing

Try searching for the files using Windows search feature.

Maybe they somehow did not end up where you expect.

Also refreshing the file explorer window with f5 sometimes seems to help. But that’s probably not going to help you as you say you already opened the explorer window to your new folder *after* copying the files.

 

You could try other things. Go to where you think the documents ended up on the c (or whatever) drive and check the properties. Does it show space used by the folder? If it says “0 bytes”, it’s possible the files did not even copy.

 

I’ve never had files physically disappear after a windows update, but it’s possible something is screwed up with the documents library. You should still be able to access the actual documents folder. Maybe open the run box and type in the path to your personal documents folder and see what happens. In my case it would be “c:\users\jm\documents”.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: September 30, 2018 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Files not showing

 

Hi, I'm just starting to use my new Win10 machine.  I copied many files and folders from my documents folder of an older machine into the documents folder under "this pc" on the new one.  Now when I go to this pc and open the documents folder, all I see is folders; no files.  I know they're in there because I was accessing them before windows did an update.  Now they don't show up.  Neither in "this pc" nor in "file explorer".--my mistake: two filenames do show, an ini file and a zip file.  When I look at properties for the folder, I see that there are 286 items in there.
What should I do to get them back?
Thanks.
Sorry; I failed to mention that I'm using the current version of NVDA.  But the demo of jaws doesn't see the files either.

Howard


Re: Help Announcements in Office 2016 While Navigating The Ribbon

Jonathan COHN
 

Joseph,

Does this map to the aria-descrbiedby field in web pages?

Thanks,

Jonathan


On 10/1/18, 10:22 AM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Jim Fettgather" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of jimfettgather@gmail.com> wrote:

This is by no means a bug, in fact, I am amazed that NVDA does the following:

When you start Word 2016, press Alt to bring focus to the ribbon, and
begin to tab down through the various icons on the ribbon, NVDA
announces helpful information that appears to be ignored by any other
screen reader.
In fact, I am not even certain whether or not the information is
visible on the screen. For example, when you Tab to Cut, NVDA says,
Remove the selection and put it on the clipboard so you can paste it
somewhere else.
So, how does NVDA do this, and where is this information originating,
since others have told me they cannot see it on the screen. It is
incredibly helpful and fantastic, I am just curious how it works.
Thanks a lot.


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Yes, we are using the education version as far as I know.


On 10/1/2018 10:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Ah, this was partly my decision…

Windows 10 App Essentials supports a given feature update (1703, for example) for a limited time. This is in accordance with Windows as a Service where new operating system release is scheduled for twice a year. Typically, I support a given feature update for at least 12 months but no more than 18. Support also means supporting NVDA releases released at that time.

The latest version of the add-on that’ll run happily on Windows 10 Version 1703 (Creators Update/build 15063) is 18.06.2, as 18.07 requires Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299) and later. At the moment support for Version 1709 is scheduled to end this December with 18.12.x.

To Brian V: I bet Noah’s school uses Windows 10 Education, which will receive support until October 2019. I’ll make that clear on Win10 Forum once Version 1809 era kicks in.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials on Windows 10Ver1703 (64-bit) build 15063.296

 

Yes, I am aware of this. Unfortunately, this is a school machine, therefore I can not invoke the update process myself. Therefore I was wondering what add-on version I should install until such time as the local IT person performs updates on our machines.

 

On 10/1/2018 09:07, Brian Vogel wrote:

Noah,

          Based on the title of your topic it's most likely NVDA telling you that your Version of Windows 10 (1703) is out of date.  That version loses all support from Microsoft in 8 days.  You should have moved along to Version 1709, followed by Version 1803, long ago.  You need to update Windows 10 very, very soon.  Ideally, you should take a full system image and separate user data backup of your current system before doing so.

          You can update your Windows 10 by going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page and invoking the Update Assistant with the "Update this PC" button.  If you need a newer version of Win10 App Essentials after doing that, this is available on the NVDA Add-Ons Download Page.   I would also suggest you visit the NVDA Add-Ons Under Development Page and snag a copy of the Add-On Updater add-nn, which monitors the add-ons you have installed to see if a newer version becomes available and will allow you to update immediately if you so choose.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

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