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Re: nvda no longer working in the im client within thunderbird
brandon
Okay it seems to be fixed now all I need to do was restart Thunderbird.
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Sorry for the trouble.
On 6/2/2016 7:54 PM, brandon wrote:
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nvda no longer working in the im client within thunderbird
brandon
hello all,
This is regarding Nvda no longer working within the im section of Thunderbird. I can no longer read the messages that I receive nor messages that I write. If anyone has any work arrounds that would be great. And also there seems to be a problem when writing a email message in Thunderbird as well I no longer get feedback when typing a message and I have to use object navigation just to see what I have written. Sorry for all the trouble. Brandon
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Re: eSpeak NG sounds a bit weird in some instances...
Sharni-Lee Ward
Just switched to Speech Player in Espeak and, oh joy, it's also tied to eSpeak NG now. The same squished sound issues were present.
lovely.
On 3/06/2016 12:10 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Hi, The problem with that solution is that my ProTalker addon, which I use to read Japanese (not that I've been doing much of that lately), is now tied to eSpeak NG. I don't know what caused the squished sounds as Sean said, but I hope somebody fixes it on the development end because stuff like that is the reason I never used the English US variant. It's horrid. On 3/06/2016 5:29 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:I am on max I can handle the issues but its just rough sounding hopefully they fix this stuff. On 3/06/2016 4:05 a.m., Andre Fisher wrote:Meanwhile, you can still use the SpeechPlayer in eSpeak add-on. It is still tied to the older version of eSpeak at the moment. That's a temporary fix till the issues are sorted, if they are at least. You can switch to the Max variant, but be warned, it does not sound exactly the same. On 6/2/16, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:Hi Sharni, Let me know in case you would like to pass this on to the ESpeak General mailing list, either I could assist you in subscribing to it (if you already aren't a member there) or could forward your report myself there. Thanks. On 6/2/16, Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote:Hi, Just updated NVDA to 2016.2. I immediately noticed there are some strange pronunciation differences between it and eSpeak. eg. words like "updated" and "supported" sound a bit ... strangled on the last syllable. That's the only way I can think of describing it. I suppose I could get used to it, but right now it's a bit jarring. Also, words like "message" seem to turn American halfway through. That might even be the best way to describe the other weird pronunciation thing. It goes from English accent to American for the last syllable and it sounds odd. I've become used to eSpeak since I got NVDA four and a half years ago, and there was another weird pronunciation thing I had to adjust to the year before last, but I'm not sure I can adjust to this...-- Warm Regards Bhavya Shah Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@... Skype id : bhavya.09
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Re: eSpeak NG sounds a bit weird in some instances...
Sharni-Lee Ward
Hi,
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The problem with that solution is that my ProTalker addon, which I use to read Japanese (not that I've been doing much of that lately), is now tied to eSpeak NG. I don't know what caused the squished sounds as Sean said, but I hope somebody fixes it on the development end because stuff like that is the reason I never used the English US variant. It's horrid.
On 3/06/2016 5:29 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I am on max I can handle the issues but its just rough sounding
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Gene, I've never said it shouldn't be discussed, as I have proposed in the past a monthly posting about "netiquette" with regard to forums and mailing lists, and it has fallen on deaf ears. I think such a posting would be a good thing for reminding regulars and for teaching newbies. I can tell you that a lecturing tone, and your post is not unique in that regard, tend to put people off immediately. Thread drift is inevitable to some extent and when there isn't a real continuity break of significance (there are related tangents) it is best tolerated. I try my best to set an example whenever possible by answering valid tangents that deserve an answer by creating a new thread with a new title when answering them. And, again, it's of far more value for the archive if when egregious examples occur the moderator(s) take it upon themselves to rectify the issue for the sake of the historical record and to create an example of "how it should be done" when someone has flagrantly ignored that. Since I am not a moderator here I do not know exactly what "the powers" are. On one other forum (and it applies equally if your access is via e-mail) I use as much as this one the moderators regularly move posts that have landed in the wrong group to the group where it belongs. One of the nice things there is that the forum software leaves a "move marker" where the information was originally posted that shoots anyone who clicks on the topic directly to its new and appropriate location. Of course, that latter feature is not something that works when dealing with e-mail going out, but the new messages that would be generated by thread splitting does. -- I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Gene
On the lists I'm on, I almost never see this
brought up. Maybe on lists you are on, it is raised more often. I
have no idea what the result would be if it were raised more often here.
I'm not talking about a daily or perhaps two day reminder. I'm talking
about perhaps a weekly reminder or when a particularly egregious example
occurs. How are people going to learn if such matters are almost never
discussed?
Gene
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Subject lines, was, Meet NVDA 2016.2, bringing
spelling error beep, grammar error detection and more to your work, home and
everything in between #NVAccess #Release Gene, I agree with you, absolutely, but I also have tired of hearing this lecture, repeatedly, on the various groups because it doesn't change anything. I have to believe that moderators on groups.io have the same capability that moderators on most forums do and can split threads, move various posts to the threads they've just created by the split, and retitle those new threads. Please, please, please start asking moderators to do this, because that does create value for future searchers and gets the point across when a certain someone or someones suddenly find their tangents, which are often valuable in their own right, suddenly in new and appropriately titled threads, preferably with a note that it was necessary to split it because it broke topic continuity. The lectures do not and will not work. I've been around this block way too many times to say anything otherwise. If you have these powers please use them; if you don't then please ask for them. -- I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the
Universe"
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Gene, I agree with you, absolutely, but I also have tired of hearing this lecture, repeatedly, on the various groups because it doesn't change anything. I have to believe that moderators on groups.io have the same capability that moderators on most forums do and can split threads, move various posts to the threads they've just created by the split, and retitle those new threads. Please, please, please start asking moderators to do this, because that does create value for future searchers and gets the point across when a certain someone or someones suddenly find their tangents, which are often valuable in their own right, suddenly in new and appropriately titled threads, preferably with a note that it was necessary to split it because it broke topic continuity. The lectures do not and will not work. I've been around this block way too many times to say anything otherwise. If you have these powers please use them; if you don't then please ask for them. -- I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Gene
Will people please change subject lines when
starting a new thread? This has nothing to do with the old thread.
Also, all the irrelevant old messages were retained. Please either start a
completely new thread or if you use reply, delete everything and then start a
completely new message and subject line.
for one thing, people will be less likely to read
your message when the subject line has nothing to do with what it is. For
another, it causes the archives not to reflect what is being discussed
accurately in a thread. And third, people who read messages by
conversation will not have their mail organized accurately by subject.
I may remind people of this more often. This
isn't something to punish people about but it is my view that one of the
functions of a list should be to teach and make people more aware of what are
considered good practices on lists. I almost never see this done and the
result is that things don't improve because people aren't reminded and nudged
toward improving practices.
Gene
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Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: Browse Mode with NVDA 2016.2 not working
Bobby <bvinton@...>
Hi I am not having that problem at all. Every thing is working very well for me.
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On 6/2/2016 7:54 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: Browse Mode with NVDA 2016.2 not working
Hi,
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Let us know what your thoughts are so one of us can forward this to the developers (or if you are a member of the nvda-devel list, I'd like to request help in shuttling emails back and forth). Thanks. Cheers, Joseph
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From: James Teh [mailto:jamie@...] Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:50 PM To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@...> Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] Browse Mode with NVDA 2016.2 not working This suggests NVDA is unable to inject itself into the browser. There are a few possibilities here: 1. NVDA's dll files didn't get updated properly for some reason. This would also affect a portable copy if that portable copy was generated from the installed copy. However, if the portable copy was created from a download directly, that probably isn't the issue. 2. Something is blocking NVDA's dll files on that system; e.g. a virus scanner. 3. If NVDA is started while a browser is focused, it sometimes cannot inject. Does the issue persist if the user opens the browser *after* opening NVDA? Jamie On 3/06/2016 8:02 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi,not read the page content. I am able to press tab to move through the elements on the page, but when I press up or down arrow, nothing happens. It is acting as if it is in browse mode and I am unable to exit out of browse mode. No audible tones are heard to indicate entering or exit of browse mode. Ever since NVDA 2015.4 or NVDA 2016.1, I have been unable to use thelatest version of NVDA on my work computer. Instead, I am using NVDA 2015.3. This problem appears to happen both on a portable copy and an installed copy which makes me think it has to do something with dependent software that needs to be updated on the individual computer. Here is my log viewer on debug mode at the error point: WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid(16:15:53): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015,(16:15:54): Initializing appModule Handlerof 3'] IO - speech.speak (16:15:55): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Google - Mozilla Firefox'] DEBUG- treeInterceptorHandler.update (16:15:55): Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:virtualBuffers.Gecko_ia2._loadBuffer (16:15:55): Traceback (most recent call last):-- James Teh Executive Director, NV Access Limited Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess SIP: jamie@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e _______________________________________________ Nvda-devel mailing list Nvda-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nvda-devel
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Hi, I have reported your findings to LibLouis folks. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben J. Bloomgren
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:01 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Meet NVDA 2016.2, bringing spelling error beep, grammar error detection and more to your work, home and everything in between #NVAccess #Release
Hello all, > Hi everyone, > > > > Yes, it is finally here: NVDA 2016.2, introducing spelling error > beep, grammar error detection and more are now available. More info > can be found on the nV Access post here: > > http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-released/
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Hello all,
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I just downloaded 2016.2, and I'm noticing a couple of problems with Braille tables. I saw that they have implemented Koine (k o i n e) Greek, so I used a virtual keyboard to type the Greek characters. In the table called "Greek", accented letters aren't marked at all, which causes many issues even in modern Greek, which is simpler. In Koine Greek, which often uses letters with one or two accent marks, the only accent mark shown is the Psili, or the smooth breathing. All the other accent marks, be they single or double, just give those bracket symbols inside of which is the hex value of the Unicode character. Should I post this to the Add-ons list as well? Ben
On 6/1/2016 22:28, Joseph Lee wrote:
> > Hi everyone, > > > > Yes, it is finally here: NVDA 2016.2, introducing spelling error > beep, grammar error detection and more are now available. More info > can be found on the nV Access post here: > > http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2-released/
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Hi, Hmmm, this is getting interesting… What if you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled (once NVDA starts, press NVDA+Q, then select the third option)? Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 3:35 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Meet NVDA 2016.2, bringing spelling error beep, grammar error detection and more to your work, home and everything in between #NVAccess #Release
but it keeps there even if i had restart my computer? because i can do nothing at all only a reset. cheers paul otter
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P. Otter
but it keeps there even if i had restart my
computer?
because i can do nothing at all only a
reset.
cheers
paul otter
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Pascal Lambert
Hi, Please, has anyone seen this message before “about: srcdoc” which appears when surfing with Firefox and causes the page to freeze. Please any feedback and/or solution is appreciated. Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Meet NVDA 2016.2, bringing spelling error beep, grammar error detection and more to your work, home and everything in between #NVAccess #Release
Hi, Ah… When you notice that latest RC commit date is about a week old than the announcement date, then this means no change between latest RC and master. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Joseph, Thanks for that pointer. That being said the most recent entry in the rc section has main number 13377 and a date-time stamp of May 26th while the most recent entry in the Master section has main number 13348 and a date-time stamp of this afternoon. I would not ever read this as the current master version having been the most recent release candidate prior to becoming the actual release. I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Joseph Lee wrote: "When you notice that latest RC commit date is about a week old than the announcement date, then this means no change between latest RC and master." Thanks for that clarification. This is a different system than what I had been accustomed to "back in the day" when doing this sort of thing. The build number (which is what I consider what comes ahead of the comma (or the whole thing) would not have changed when moved from candidate to master upon release. -- I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Hi, Ah… When you notice that latest RC commit date is about a week old than the announcement date, then this means no change between latest RC and master. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Joseph, Thanks for that pointer. That being said the most recent entry in the rc section has main number 13377 and a date-time stamp of May 26th while the most recent entry in the Master section has main number 13348 and a date-time stamp of this afternoon. I would not ever read this as the current master version having been the most recent release candidate prior to becoming the actual release. I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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That should have been 13337 for the latest RC main number, which is important in this situation as I imagine these increase as time progresses based on the other material on that page.
-- Brian I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Joseph, Thanks for that pointer. That being said the most recent entry in the rc section has main number 13377 and a date-time stamp of May 26th while the most recent entry in the Master section has main number 13348 and a date-time stamp of this afternoon. I would not ever read this as the current master version having been the most recent release candidate prior to becoming the actual release. I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Re: Browse Mode with NVDA 2016.2 not working
Hi,
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I don't understand what may hgave caused this - perhaps you are right in that something is happening with a dependent routine. I've forward your email to devs in hopes of getting an answer. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ethan Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 2:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Browse Mode with NVDA 2016.2 not working Hello all: I was not sure where to post this so I apologize if this is off topic. When I am using NVDA on the web in Firefox or Internet Explorer, it does not read the page content. I am able to press tab to move through the elements on the page, but when I press up or down arrow, nothing happens. It is acting as if it is in browse mode and I am unable to exit out of browse mode. No audible tones are heard to indicate entering or exit of browse mode. Ever since NVDA 2015.4 or NVDA 2016.1, I have been unable to use the latest version of NVDA on my work computer. Instead, I am using NVDA 2015.3. This problem appears to happen both on a portable copy and an installed copy which makes me think it has to do something with dependent software that needs to be updated on the individual computer. Here is my log viewer on debug mode at the error point: WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid // Start of log: INFO - __main__ (16:15:53): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (16:15:53): Config dir: E:\NVDA 2016.2\userConfig DEBUG - core.main (16:15:53): setting language to Windows INFO - core.main (16:15:53): NVDA version 2016.2 INFO - core.main (16:15:53): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (16:15:53): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (16:15:53): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 DEBUG - core.main (16:15:53): Initializing addons system. DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (16:15:53): Listing add-ons from E:\NVDA 2016.2\userConfig\addons DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing appModule Handler DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing NVDAHelper DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Speech Dictionary processing DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (16:15:54): Loading speech dictionary '.\userConfig\speechDicts\default.dic'... DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (16:15:54): file '.\userConfig\speechDicts\default.dic' not found. DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (16:15:54): Loading speech dictionary 'builtin.dic'... DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (16:15:54): 3 loaded records. DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing speech INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (16:15:54): Using eSpeak version 1.48.15 16.Apr.15 DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (16:15:54): Loading speech dictionary '.\userConfig\speechDicts\espeak-english.dic'... DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (16:15:54): file '.\userConfig\speechDicts\espeak-english.dic' not found. INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (16:15:54): Loaded synthDriver espeak INFO - core.main (16:15:54): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing braille INFO - braille.initialize (16:15:54): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (16:15:54): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing braille input INFO - brailleInput.initialize (16:15:54): Braille input initialized DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing displayModel DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing GUI DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): initializing Java Access Bridge support DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing winConsole support DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing UIA support DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing IAccessible support DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing input core DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap (16:15:54): No locale gesture map for language en DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadUserGestureMap (16:15:54): No user gesture map DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing keyboard handler DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): initializing mouse handler DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing touchHandler DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.initialize (16:15:54): Touch only supported on installed copies DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing global plugin handler DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing core pump DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): Initializing watchdog DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): initializing updateCheck INFO - core.main (16:15:54): NVDA initialized DEBUG - core.main (16:15:54): entering wx application main loop IO - speech.speak (16:15:55): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Google - Mozilla Firefox icon 2 of 3'] IO - speech.speak (16:15:55): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Google - Mozilla Firefox'] DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (16:15:55): Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x059ACDF0> ERROR - virtualBuffers.Gecko_ia2._loadBuffer (16:15:55): Traceback (most recent call last): File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyo", line 369, in _loadBuffer WindowsError: [Error 1702] The binding handle is invalid Thank you for any information you can provide, Ethan
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