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Re: OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

Mallard
 

Hello Brian,

I've downloaded the portable version of the programme, plus all the ocr language files.

I'm ocr-ing a long document right now, but I must say teh programme is not all that accessible.

For example, if I rpess Alt or Alt+f to go to the menus, my son sees the menus on screen, but NVDA doesn't read anything, either in braille or in voice.

By exploring the screen with NVDA+7 (numpad 7, of course), I reach the options and, if I click on them, something happens, but not always.

I can open a file, but can't see the options, for examples.

If I move around with the mouse, on the other hand, things are shown and read out correctly.

Ctrl+Shift+c doesn't work here. To start ocr.ing I need to use the mouse.

Am I doing something wrong?

Using Windows 7 and latest NVDA Next snapshot.

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 08/03/2016 17:29, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

Dan,

I cannot speak to NVDA's OCR capabilities, but will offer a suggestion as a stand-alone. A company with the unfortunate name, these days anyway, of Tracker Software <https://tracker-software.com/> offers a free PDF viewer called PDF-XChange Viewer. When you land on the Tracker home page if you do an NVDA search for "free PDF" you'll land straight on the download link for PDF-XChange Viewer.

It has OCR capability for multiple languages built in to the free version and it has performed very well. I have used it to process image scanned documents up to several hundred pages in length, and with some not-so-great original scans, and what it can OCR with it's default settings is pretty amazing. Once an image scanned document that you know contains a lot of text has been opened in the program, simply hitting CTRL+SHIFT+C to run OCR on the file. You simply save it (standard windows File menu commands) after the OCR is done and you have the file with a permanent text layer added.

Brian


java access bridge

Pete <emac00@...>
 

hi
two things about manually activating java access bridge on windows. Depending on 32 or 64 bit version of windows the windows access bridge 32 dll file needs to be copied to the windows system32 folder for the 32 bit windows version and the windows access bridge 64 dll file needs to be copied to the windows syswow64 folder for the 64 bit version of windows. Additionally the accessibility.properties file in the Java \ jre [what ever version U have] \ lib folder needs to be edited and the lines for the access bridge need to be uncommented.
For some unknown reason to me the java installers do not copy the windows access bridge 32 or 64 files to the system folders on windows. I also found the ease of access applet not to be effective in enabling java access bridge.
I participated in an access bridge discussion in the past on this list. Apparently no one knows why java access bridge is not fully installed by the java installers. Not sure who is developing java now but no one has seen fit to write me back with answers to my questions about this.
Pete


Using a place marker with NVDA

Marion
 

Hi all,

Can I use a place marker on a web page similar to Jaws?

Marion


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Re: libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

 

You don't need Java Access bridge any longer for LibreOffice.

On 3/8/2016 2:17 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Enabling java access bridge?

As in, depending on version of java, and version of windows, you can
at times enable java access bridge (jab) under control panel, ease
of access - windows key + U, and find the section for vision access,
and it might show up there under windows 7 and later.

Alternatively, there's a command line command to turn it on,
depending on the relevant version of java, or the java SDK installed
- a command line application called jabswitch.exe, and you can run it
with the /enable command line argument - generally it's somewhere
like c:\program files\java\java version, etc.\bin, but anyway. But,
this is a guess, related to open office having required jab to
cooperate a little while ago.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Roger Wilco wants to welcome
you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 7:30 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'm wondering what the issue is. I installed it and it works. It
sees you have an accessibility tool running and it works. Should be
all there is to it. Someone please correct me if I'm srong.




On 3/8/2016 12:12 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I couldn't get it to work.



On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked
and unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am
happy to report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA
I can even get font info with capslock f. nearly everything
seems to be accessible. spell check is also accessible. if you
want a free office suite working well with NVDA I recommend
libreoffice. libreoffice calc also work very well.








Re: libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

Jacob Kruger
 

Enabling java access bridge?

As in, depending on version of java, and version of windows, you can at times enable java access bridge (jab) under control panel, ease of access - windows key + U, and find the section for vision access, and it might show up there under windows 7 and later.

Alternatively, there's a command line command to turn it on, depending on the relevant version of java, or the java SDK installed - a command line application called jabswitch.exe, and you can run it with the /enable command line argument - generally it's somewhere like c:\program files\java\java version, etc.\bin, but anyway.
But, this is a guess, related to open office having required jab to cooperate a little while ago.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 7:30 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'm wondering what the issue is. I installed it and it works. It sees
you have an accessibility tool running and it works. Should be all there
is to it. Someone please correct me if I'm srong.




On 3/8/2016 12:12 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I couldn't get it to work.



On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and
unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to
report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get
font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible.
spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite
working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc also
work very well.






Re: config gmail to work with mail client

Jacob Kruger
 

Under basic html view, if I go to settings, forwarding and pop/imap, then under there I have turned on pop access - it's now showing radio buttons to change the option relating to received dates, or turning it off, but, know you do then need to use non-default port numbers, SSL encryption, etc.?

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-08 6:33 PM, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
To all listers
Does anyone know how to make changes on gmail to use with mail client?
I know what settings must be applied, but it didn't work in basic html
view, and in standard view, I don't know how to activate the settings.
Any help would be appreciated
Cuong
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Re: Antivirus

marvin kotler
 

This is Marv here. One thing I have noticed over the years regarding some antivirus programs is that they interfere with system restore. Surprisingly, windows defender does not do this. Just something else to consider when looking for a program.-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:04 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Hi,
I use eset nod32.


Il 07/03/2016 13:33, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io ha scritto:
I am using sophus and after a bit of a shaky start I now have it on 3 of
my many computers and it is Ok seems to be fully accessible. I admit I
have not looked around to see what the ratings are like but I might now
that I have thought about it.

On 07/03/2016 12:11, Gene wrote:
There are other e-mail programs with much better ratings that are
reasonably accessible and don't slow things down. Knowledgeable
people differ on whether Windows Defender is adequate and people
should read about the subject. When Kim Komando recommends that
people use something else and Ars Technica (spelling) does as well,
that in my opinion, is cause for serious consideration.

With reasonable care, Windows Defender may be alright but it has poor
detection rates compared with many programs.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Well, all anti virus programs tend to have one weakness, even if that is
that you cannot actually use it with a screenreader or it slows down
stuff.

I have to say that msse/defender is maybe not as featured as many, but
unless you are the sort of person who goes recklessly clicking dodgy
links
in phishing emails or web sites, thus far checks with other products
on my
machines have not revealed anything very malicious. The pundits always
have
their favourites, and certainly do not have the added issues of
accessibility, but we have to live in the world as it is, as I'm
constantly
reminded, so compromise is often what one ends up with.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


As has been repeatedly discussed here, it's not a question of how
accessible
the program is. Many advisors say that it is better to use something
else
because it isn't as good at detecting malware as they think it should be.

It seems to me that this program is contraversial enough that when people
ask about it, those who discuss it should say that there is a
contraversy,
and what it is. I believe that those considering using the program
should
be encouraged to look into the contraversy.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus


Yes, I hear it works well for 8 and 10.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com]
Sent: March-06-16 4:41 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus



Hi, Nut,

I'm using windows defender and it's working great for me.

Rosemarie




On 3/6/2016 3:39 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi all,

I'm thinking of upgrading to Windows 10, probably during my summer
holiday
of this year, and I'm wondering, will Windows Defender be good enough? I
have Sandboxie and VMware installed (anything I think is suspicious I
either
run them in Sandboxie or VMware). I'm giving Nod32 a particular
attention as
I do have access to a licensed copy through my university.

If Windows Defender is not good enough, is Nod32 (any version)
accessible
with NVDA? In terms of being able to read and properly interact with
alert
dialogs and settings windows.









Re: problem is now truly solvedRE: so problem solved

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Yes

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook [mailto:chris0309@samobile.net]
Sent: March-08-16 1:53 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: problem is now truly solvedRE: [nvda] so problem solved

Hi Zoe,
Just out of curiosity, do you still pay for the SMA agreement for JAWS?


Re: problem is now truly solvedRE: so problem solved

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi Zoe,
Just out of curiosity, do you still pay for the SMA agreement for JAWS?


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I forgot the actual URL for the video but if you want to convert it to mp3, the URL is

www.youtube-mp3.org.

Hope this helps.

On 3/8/2016 4:36 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
if someone sends me the url I will convert to mp3 and can make available to anyone who wants it.

On 07/03/2016 18:14, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I think that's a great idea.



On 3/7/2016 9:36 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Brandon,

After seeing the responses to this tutorial, I’d like to request
trying to see if Cool Blind Tech or similar entity can carry an mp3
version of this tutorial.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:*Brandon Keith Biggs [mailto:brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:58 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

Hello,

I made a tutorial on how to use the gmail web view with NVDA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phClLFt2-dQ&feature=youtu.be

The instructions are also in the description.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I use the
gmail web view for all my email.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

 

I'm wondering what the issue is. I installed it and it works. It sees
you have an accessibility tool running and it works. Should be all there
is to it. Someone please correct me if I'm srong.

On 3/8/2016 12:12 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I couldn't get it to work.



On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and
unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to
report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get
font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible.
spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite
working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc also
work very well.




Re: libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I couldn't get it to work.

On 3/8/2016 8:40 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible. spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc also work very well.


Re: config gmail to work with mail client

 

Cuong,

         The only thing you need to do is to set either IMAP and/or POP access on.  IMAP is preferable.

         There is a link on the Basic HTML page, "Settings", which you need to activate.  Once that's done the settings page is up and there is a link, "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" that you need to activate.  On that page are radio buttons for POP that are Enable for all mail, Enable POP only for mail that arrives from now on, and Disable.  For IMAP there is only an Enable or Disable Radio button.

          If you enable whichever you prefer and save the page you can then configure an e-mail client program to access Gmail via IMAP or POP.  There are also links on that page that read, "Configuration instructions", one under the POP choices and another under the IMAP choices that give you step-by-step instructions from Google's help pages on configuring popular e-mail clients for IMAP or POP access.

Brian


libreoffice 5.1 latest version and nvda

Josh Kennedy
 

hi
i installed libreoffice 5.1 went into options and checked and unchecked and rechecked the accesibility checkbox. i am happy to report libreoffice 5.1 and later work great with NVDA I can even get font info with capslock f. nearly everything seems to be accessible. spell check is also accessible. if you want a free office suite working well with NVDA I recommend libreoffice. libreoffice calc also work very well.


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config gmail to work with mail client

 

To all listers
Does anyone know how to make changes on gmail to use with mail client?
I know what settings must be applied, but it didn't work in basic html view, and in standard view, I don't know how to activate the settings.
Any help would be appreciated
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
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Re: OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

 

Dan,

         I cannot speak to NVDA's OCR capabilities, but will offer a suggestion as a stand-alone.  A company with the unfortunate name, these days anyway, of Tracker Software offers a free PDF viewer called PDF-XChange Viewer.  When you land on the Tracker home page if you do an NVDA search for "free PDF" you'll land straight on the download link for PDF-XChange Viewer.

         It has OCR capability for multiple languages built in to the free version and it has performed very well.  I have used it to process image scanned documents up to several hundred pages in length, and with some not-so-great original scans, and what it can OCR with it's default settings is pretty amazing.  Once an image scanned document that you know contains a lot of text has been opened in the program, simply hitting CTRL+SHIFT+C to run OCR on the file.  You simply save it (standard windows File menu commands) after the OCR is done and you have the file with a permanent text layer added.

Brian


Re: FW: [liblouis-liblouisxml] FW: Emdash displaying weirdly on Focus 40 Blue Braille display with NVDA

 

Hi,

It turns out UK table does not have dot combination defined for em dash, so it’s something that should be fixed from LibLouis side.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@... [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@...] On Behalf Of Paul Wood
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:21 AM
To: liblouis-liblouisxml@...
Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: FW: [nvda] Emdash displaying weirdly on Focus 40 Blue Braille display with NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,
Sorry for slight delay I was consulting our braille expert and me had some network probs here yesterday!
From what I understand the unicode character is probably not defined, so is showing something like \x2014. In UK (SEB) braille there was not a definition exactly for em-dash and en-dash but there was for hyphen, short dash and long dash. dots: 36, 36+36 and 36+36+36+36 respectively. I presume the em-dash should be assigned to 36+36+36+36 these are all without spaces. I presume you know the UEB situation.
On a totally different subject do you know if NVDA support Alva Delphi 440 braille displays?
Cheers
Paul

On 05/03/2016 18:08, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Paul,

In UK braille, what is the proper braille dots for em dash? A user of NVDA reports that wrong dots are displayed for this symbol in UK braille code (as you can see below).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:02 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emdash displaying weirdly on Focus 40 Blue Braille display with NVDA

 

Oh, okay. Why does the same anomaly show up when I use UK Grade 2 for the output table, though? I thought emdash in that system was two hyphens next to each other.


From: joseph.lee22590@...
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emdash displaying weirdly on Focus 40 Blue Braille display with NVDA
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:00:41 -0800

Hi,

UEB support: NVDA is using a really old Unified English Braille (UEB) table set. I plan to compile a third-party try build that’ll include newest UEB table set for testing purposes (I’m one of the table maintainers for UeB in LibLouis project).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:07 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Emdash displaying weirdly on Focus 40 Blue Braille display with NVDA

 

GUYS! I didn't realise you'd moved! I was sending to the old list address and wondering why nobody was responding and if I was still subscribed or had typed the address wrong...

But anyways, now that I've found out where yous guys went, I shall get to the point of this message.

So I was recently able to purchase my very own Braille Display and I chose the Focus 40 Blue. I'm loving having it, as I've missed Braille and wanted to read my fave sites using the display as well as write. I look forward to NVDA supporting contracted Braille input. :D

One thing that's puzzling me, however, is the way "—"(the emdash symbol) is displayed on the Focus sometimes. Why it doesn't happen every time mystifies me but it's quite bizarre. My current output table is UEB Grade 2, but I tested this on UK Grade 2 as well and the result was the same. In Microsoft word, and a couple other sites I read from, whenever an emdash appears it's displayed as apostrophe+o-u symbol+x+lower 2014+apostrophe, and I don't know why or how to fix it. I use emdashes (and encounter them while reading)frequently enough that this eight-cell mutant is quite jarring to read. It doesn't NEED to take up that many cells, so why does it? And why only in MS Word  and on specific websites? Is this an NVDA or Focus issue?

It also happens in the Outlook Email editor. That's how I was able to describe what it looks like to me.

 

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Re: Espeak is not still working

Ângelo Abrantes
 

He,
I already deleted my configurations folder and the result is the same.
Later, i'll uninstall all the program and i'll see the results.
Cheers,
Ângelo Abrantes

Às 14:24 de 08-03-2016, Dang Manh Cuong escreveu:

Hi
The way you can try is delete the NVDA folder in app data, then start NVDA again. I guess there are something error in configuration
Cuong.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ângelo Abrantes" <ampa4374@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Espeak is not still working


He,
No, I've not upgraded my windows version; I'm working with windows 7.
Cheers.
Ângelo Abrantes.

Às 14:17 de 08-03-2016, P. Otter escreveu:
very strange, i've tryed it out and all languages will work here.
but per haps you have just upgraded your windows version from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10?
than it is possible that there are problems with nvda.
if so, i want to hear it from you.
so this is very strange.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ângelo Abrantes" <ampa4374@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Espeak is not still working


he,
I'm using europian portuguese, but i've already tryed englis, and espeak is not working too. There are some people, here, in Portugal, that is with the same problem.
Cheers.
Ângelo Abrantes

Às 14:07 de 08-03-2016, P. Otter escreveu:
hi
what language are you using with espeak?

paul otter

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ângelo Abrantes" <ampa4374@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 3:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] Espeak is not still working


He,
At this time, using the last "next" version, the "espeak" is still not working.
Cheers,
Ângelo Abrantes










OCRing pdfs using NVDA?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,

Does the OCR add-in ocr pdfs? Or do I need to find another ocr package to do this?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver


Need a keystroke to jump to first and last column in a table

Jamie Pauls <jamiepauls@...>
 

Hello, all,

Using Jaws, it is possible to jump to the first column in a table with alt-control-shift left-arrow. I really enjoy table navigation with NVDA, but I truly miss the ability to move quickly to the left-most column in a row when working with tables. Am I missing a keystroke here, or does this command not exist in NVDA? For the sake of completeness, alt-control-shift right-arrow moves to the end of a row.

It seems that these keystrokes could be easily included. What say you all?


Have a great 2016!

Jamie Pauls