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Re: I'm back

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Welcome back. What dou you mean with “behave”? couldn’t find this word in the dictionary 😉

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Montag, 8. Oktober 2018 09:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I'm back

 

Hi everyone,

 

I hope you had a good week and behaved yourselves while I was away :)

 

I'm back now, and I've replied to a few messages here and there.  If I haven't replied to your message and you'd like my input on it, please let me know!

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Anyone having issues with the latest basic training for NVDA?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hello Everyone.


I am having a problem accessing the latest edition of the basic training for NVDA archive. When I placed my order last year, I was able to download a zip  archive containing different formats of the book. I recently decided to download the latest archive to take in to account latest improvements in NVDA. When downloading the basic_training_for_NVDA-NVAccess-20180615.zip archive, it only contains an HTML copy of the book. Are the other formats no longer being produced? Is there any way of downloading the latest edition in multiple formats without me having to convert them all manually?


Very best wishes,


Mo.
Re: Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It sounds to me like there is a user profile for just word set up. Look at the profiles dialogue and see what you have set up. My guess is either that word has it set to sappi 5 or there is a say all rule set for that synth. I can think of no other reason for the symptoms you have.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <sven.zoephel@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess


Hi Bryan,
Yes, I was using the sappi 5 voice until a short time ago. Now I found out that espeak automatically reads texts in German and English, which is nice - especially for homeworks with an English text and German questions...
I've tried to change the speech setting in NVDA, but as I explained: In Word it's always switched back to sappi 5 if I close the NVDA speech settings. Are there any program specific settings somewhere? Or even better: Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between different languages in sappi 5?
Cheers, Sven
I'm back

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I hope you had a good week and behaved yourselves while I was away :)

I'm back now, and I've replied to a few messages here and there.  If I haven't replied to your message and you'd like my input on it, please let me know!

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess

Sylvie Duchateau
 




Hello Sven,
If you use the Microsoft OneCore voices in windows 10, there is also a multilingual support.
You just need to install the voices you need. This is in the speech parmeters of Windows.
Once you have installed the voices, changing languages work, I just tested it in a Word document written in French, German and English.
1. You have to make sure that language automatic detection is checked in Nvda parameters, speech, automatic language change.
2. In Word, when yo write in different languages, you have to check in the statuts bar, that your text selection is in the right language. Press f6 several times to reach the status bar, then use the arrow keys to read in which language the selection is.
3. When you read the document, the languages should work fine.
I just tested the same document with Espeak and language changes work here.
Do not hesitate if I can help.
Best
Sylvie

Le 07/10/2018 à 20:11, sven.zoephel@... a écrit :
I‘ve got a strange problem in Word under Win10. The system is setup to use the NVDA eSpeak NG as screen reader now, because it is the only screen reader with multi-language support for Word, so it can read texts in English and German without problems. I‘ve used Microsoft Speech API v5 before, because the voice is very natural. 
All Windows commands (etc.) are using eSpeak NG, but Word is still using the Microsoft Speech API v5! Only if I open the NVDA speech settings, eSpeak NG is also used as screen reader for Word. As soon as I close the settings dialog, Word switches back to the MS API! I can even confirm that when looking into the NVDA log. It also shows the switching. Is there a way to prevent this? Or is there another way to get multi-language-support?

Re: Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with Donating . . .

Quentin Christensen
 

Brian,

Are they coming from one of our pages to donate?  On our donation page for instance: https://www.nvaccess.org/support-us/#donation-support it lists a range of suggested values, all in Australian dollars, with the last one in each row being an edit box you can change the value of.  When you activate one of the buttons, it then takes you to PayPal ready to make a payment of that amount.  I think once you give it your credit card details, it might work out where you are from and what amount it will withdraw in your local currency?

If you go to PayPal's site and "Pay someone", then you can select the currency and choose either to send a set amount in your local currency - and it indicates how much we will receive in Australian dollars, or you can choose to donate an amount in Australian dollars and it advises how much that will be in your local currency.

We did have a currency conversion widget on the old site, but it hadn't worked for some time, so we dropped it from the new site.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 3:45 AM Danny Park <dpark13918@...> wrote:
But it is only donations all other transactions work like they are supposed
to work.

Danny

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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 1:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with
Donating . . .

Often if your card has expired, yet your new card is on their account at
Paypal you have to go in and make the new one default as some banks systems
are so bloomin thick they never ask to try the other card. What  I did was
delete the old one making the current one default, by default, if you get my
drift.
Other things can upset it. Sometimes you can tie it to an account without a
card but have a transaction limit of some sort set. This can cause problems
as well. Very handy for stopping fraud of course, but if your account is not
using an overdraft and the credit limit is small, it tends to just not  know
what to do.
I guess it is dangerous to use a debit cared, as credit cards afford some
protection, but I've not been  hacked yet, and the banks do tend to put the
money back in a goodwill gesture so far if people I talk to are anything to
go by.
But, this is all academic. It has to be something wrong with the set up
that gives such errors, and only trying to find which bit is the solution,
from what I've read here, its usually the bank. Some banks will not agree
till you reply to an email they send you and click a link in the account.
That is a bit paranoid unless you are talking about thousands of pounds or
dollars, in my view and I have found my bank normally calls me if their
algorithm spots something out of the ordinary.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Park" <dpark13918@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with
Donating . . .


I have had several problems trying to donate and getting an error message
saying that the card was rejected but the problem is that I was not using a
card but rather using my bank.  I talked to PayPal and they could not even
see a transaction being initiated so I could not get past the initial
screen.

Danny

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 11:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with
Donating . . .

. . . when installing/updating NVDA?

I ask because a friend of mine who's a long term NVDA user, and has donated
many times along the way, mentioned to me this evening that when she did the
latest update she could not get through making a donation.  We're in the
USA, and she describes the situation as being that no matter how many times
she tried to get the donation currency set to USD and enter her credit card
information things kept reverting back to Australian dollars and starting
the whole "fill in the form" process again.

She's been a screen reader user since there were screen readers, and knows
NVDA inside and out.  I thought I'd mention this here as it would be a shame
if this were not an isolated incident and others who wish to donate were
being stymied in doing so.

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Re: NVDA and Windows 7

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

~Quentin,

 

Not too late, actually! I’ll pass your advice on, thanks.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 6:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 7

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

Probably redundant replying now, but I will anyway :)

 

The main issue that I'm aware of, is that you need to be running Windows 7 with Service Pack 1.  If you have an older version of Windows 7, you'll need to run NVDA 2017.3 until you update to SP1.

 

Otherwise, Windows 7 is certainly still supported, so if you do encounter anything else that doesn't work as expected, do please let us know.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:31 PM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Are there any known problems running NVDA 2018.3.2 on Windows 7 on a desktop PC?

 

I have heard of one case that is having difficulty and I am about to assist that person. It would help to know if there are any issues.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


 

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Re: Windows10 Screen Reader in Word #NVAccess

sven.zoephel@...
 

Hi Bryan,
Yes, I was using the sappi 5 voice until a short time ago. Now I found out that espeak automatically reads texts in German and English, which is nice - especially for homeworks with an English text and German questions...
I've tried to change the speech setting in NVDA, but as I explained: In Word it's always switched back to sappi 5 if I close the NVDA speech settings. Are there any program specific settings somewhere? Or even better: Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between different languages in sappi 5?
Cheers, Sven
Re: Files not showing

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Howard, if this is windows version 1809, unfortunately the files may be gone.  Have you attempted to unzip the file since it tells you that there are 286 items in there overall?


Folks have been talking about this phenomenon on the list lately and I believe there's an article about it up here somewhere, however, I haven't found the message with the link to it in my mass of emails. So if anyone could repost that article, it would be appreciated. 


Just the other night my business partner told me that folks were losing their data after upgrading from 1803 to 1809.  And in one such case a user lost over 250 Gigs of data. So it would appear that the first thing you'd want to do before upgrading to windows 1809 would be to backup your c:\users\documents folder, and any other folders where you have documents and things that you feel are important to an external drive. 


Tony

 


On 9/30/2018 3:05 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Hi, I'm just starting to use my new Win10 machine.  I copied many files and folders from my documents folder of an older machine into the documents folder under "this pc" on the new one.  Now when I go to this pc and open the documents folder, all I see is folders; no files.  I know they're in there because I was accessing them before windows did an update.  Now they don't show up.  Neither in "this pc" nor in "file explorer".--my mistake: two filenames do show, an ini file and a zip file.  When I look at properties for the folder, I see that there are 286 items in there.
What should I do to get them back?
Thanks.
Sorry; I failed to mention that I'm using the current version of NVDA.  But the demo of jaws doesn't see the files either.
Howard
Re: NVDA and Windows 7

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cearbhall,

Probably redundant replying now, but I will anyway :)

The main issue that I'm aware of, is that you need to be running Windows 7 with Service Pack 1.  If you have an older version of Windows 7, you'll need to run NVDA 2017.3 until you update to SP1.

Otherwise, Windows 7 is certainly still supported, so if you do encounter anything else that doesn't work as expected, do please let us know.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:31 PM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Are there any known problems running NVDA 2018.3.2 on Windows 7 on a desktop PC?

 

I have heard of one case that is having difficulty and I am about to assist that person. It would help to know if there are any issues.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 



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Re: Strange pronunciations

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Walmir,

Someone (possibly you?) reported this on Twitter as well and I created an issue on the eSpeak NG issue tracker here: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues/557

Feel free to subscribe to that or reply if you have more detail to add.

If you do subscribe to the issue, feel free to prompt me when they fix and close it, and we'll look at updating the version of eSpeak NG we use in NVDA.

NVDA doesn't automatically update eSpeak NG builds as new ones are released, but we'll make updating a priority when we know there are fixes in there that users are waiting on.

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 5:42 AM Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io <wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

After upgrading to NVDA 2018.3, eSpeak is strangely pronouncing all
words with the letter "y" when in the Portuguese brazilian language.

For example, the word "system" is being pronounced as "zystem".

Can someone communicate this to the eSpeak team?






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Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

Tony Ballou
 

Howdy,


Thanks mate. I've had a copy of this program for a while now but have yet to use it.  Looks like from what I've been reading and hearing from numerous reputable sources, here on this list, in the wires, and in my personal network that this will definitely come in handy prior to and after upgrading from windows 1803 to 1809.


Tony

On 10/5/2018 11:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
There has been much discussion on several groups about an entirely accessible backup utility with regard to actually taking a full system image backup.  I have yet to find a backup and recovery utility that is 100% accessible in all respects, but Macrium Reflect, Version 7, is 100% accessible for creating a full system image backup for "the typical user" who keeps the typical disc arrangement under Windows where all OS files and user data files are on the C: drive.

Given what's been happening over the last several days with the Windows 10 Version 1809 feature update it is really critical to take a full system image backup before it is applied.

Here's the link to download the step-by-step instructions, along with notes about setting things up, in MS-Word format:

Using Macrium Reflect With a Screen Reader To Take a Full System Image Backup

You should be presented with a Save dialog shortly after activating the link. 

I went through this process from beginning to end using NVDA to control everything.  I cannot imagine that things should be different in JAWS and possibly even Narrator.  If there are any significant differences that you encounter please share them on this topic.
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Re: Nvda certification exam

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Claire,

Thanks for raising this.  I have recently updated the Basic Training material and I was working on the Word material.  I must admit, I had intended to look at the exam and it had slipped my mind so I will catch up on my correspondence and then start looking at the certification exam.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:10 AM Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:
Hi all, I have a question regarding the current online certification exam which people can take for NVDA. I have noticed that the questions are about version 17.3, and I wanted to know if there are any plans to update the exam to make it more relevant to the current release of NVDA, as I try to prepare for the exam it is very diffcult to make sure I am revising with the right information, a classic example being the Basic Training book which is now revevant to newer versions of NVDA than what the exam covers, and although most of the information is the same, it is extremely confusing when it comes to taking the exam.  

Warm regards, Claire Potter,   Check out my brand new website: www.pottersplace.me.uk



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Re: Tutorials for hyper-v?

Quentin Christensen
 

I don't have any tutorials for Hyper-V, but did you end up finding any or getting any other responses?  I happen to have a query from someone elsewhere on Hyper-V and I don't have any experience with it myself.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 7:17 AM luke scholey <l.scholey@...> wrote:
Hi all
Does anyone know of a good tutorial that can help me get started with using hyper-V with NVDA?
Thanks
Luke

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Re: closing the NVDA About window

Quentin Christensen
 

The Speech Viewer window stays visible on top of other Windows even when it does not have focus.  While you can focus it and then press ALT+F4, the other way would be to press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu, then T for tools, then S to toggle Speech Viewer (or down arrow a couple of times to get to it then enter).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:42 AM Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote:

Hi!

You don’t need to use alt+F4 or Escape, or even the Tab key, to close the About dialogue in the Help menu of NVDA: the window closes with an OK button. All you need to do is to press the spacebar at any point during the reading of the About message: the OK button will be activated, and the window with the About message in it will close.

I hope this helps!

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: vendredi 28 septembre 2018 16:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] closing the NVDA About window

 

Hi All,

I was just looking in the About window to see which version of NVDA I have installed, and it is 2018.3.2 ... now I know that I am unable to close that About dialogue!

Presing Escape, Alt+F4 produce no results, and tabbing around finds no close button!

I think I remember something similar happning with configuration windows back in NVDA 2017, so wonder if it might be related ... is anybody else experienceing this?

Thanks,

Giles



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Re: Not able to read pdf file

farhan israk
 

It was a hard copy which I scannes through abby fine reader.


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You did not send a link so we can't.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "farhan israk" <fahim.net.2014@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Not able to read pdf file


Check this file.

On Sat, 6 Oct 2018, 9:32 pm Lino Morales, <linomorales001@...> wrote:

> Hi. Well we don’t know what type of file it is. Is it an image? Was it
> improperly formatted perhaps? We don’t know. What is it supposed to be
> sir?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of farhan
> israk <fahim.net.2014@...>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 6, 2018 11:30:17 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* [nvda] Not able to read pdf file
>
>
> I'm Fahim from Dhaka, Bangladesh. I habe a pdf file. But, I'm not able to
> read it. I used abby fine reader and open book. But, failed to read it.
> Screen readers reads as there are lots of simbles. How to read it!
>
>
Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

I use LastPass as well without any trouble. I’m using NVDA as my primary screen reader these days, but I’ve used it with JAWS in the past and not had a problem.
Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Lanie Molinar
 

I use Bitwarden (https://www.bitwarden.com). It's free except for things like a gigabyte of extra storage for keeping files safe, and it's open-source, which I love.

On 10/7/2018 8:45 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike
Re: NVDA 2018.3rc1 espeak problem with Russian language.

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Alexander,

We have created a test build of NVDA using the latest build of eSpeak, which should address the Russian pronunciation problems.  Please try it and let me know whether it works or not.  The build starts similar to any other NVDA download - once you run it, you can either install it, or continue running (as a portable version) - either should be fine to test this.


Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 6:25 AM Александр Епанешников <aarnaarn2@...> wrote:
hello, i am from russia and i using espeak. in changelog i noticed that the synthesizer was updated. unfortunately because of the update, some words and prepositions were pronounced very strange. I can not explain it to people who do not know Russian, but it sounds unpleasant.
is it possible to not update the synthesizer in the release, or to find the source of the problem?
Sincerely, Alexander.



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Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Angelo Sonnesso
 

I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike
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