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Re: Sort of NVDA Question

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No.
Android is not Windows.

End of story.
Brian

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From: "Stephen Costigan" <stephen.costigan@outlook.com>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] Sort of NVDA Question


Hi All,

I have a sort of NVDA related question.

I have an Android TV box and have it connected through Team Viewer with
my laptop, but I do not hear any speech back through my laptop. Is it
possible to install NVDA on the Android box?

Even with Talkback enabled on the Android box I hear nothing back
through the laptop.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Regards, Stephen




Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Tyler Wood
 

So glad I'm not using any of those antivirus programs.

Though windows 7 is on its last bit of life I think? Hmm.

On 08-Oct-2018 9:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


Howdy,


From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
the issue. You can read more of this here.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused


Tony






Re: Anyone having issues with the latest basic training for NVDA?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Maybe its still in work. The person who does this seems not to be around at the moment or they would, I'm sure tell us what is going on. Very important that an amendment for new bits and changes are kept up to date.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mobeen Iqbal" <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone having issues with the latest basic training for NVDA?


Hi Tony.

I got the latest edition by clicking download on the title in my account. However, the archive just contains a HTML copy. Very strange as the microsoft word and excel copies haven't been affected.

Cheers,

Mo.



On 08/10/2018 13:23, Tony Ballou wrote:
Howdy,


Just checked up on NV Access and haven't seen any new revisions of the
book, where did you find this? I purchased a copy of the book about a
year and a half ago myself and if there is a new revision to reflect
changes I'll like to have it myself. Thanks mate.


Tony


On 10/8/2018 5:08 AM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello Everyone.


I am having a problem accessing the latest edition of the basic
training for NVDA archive. When I placed my order last year, I was
able to download a zip archive containing different formats of the
book. I recently decided to download the latest archive to take in to
account latest improvements in NVDA. When downloading the
basic_training_for_NVDA-NVAccess-20180615.zip archive, it only
contains an HTML copy of the book. Are the other formats no longer
being produced? Is there any way of downloading the latest edition in
multiple formats without me having to convert them all manually?


Very best wishes,


Mo.






Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Matt Turner
 

Speaking of last-pass, are there any guides on adding saved passwords

from chrome to last-pass?
I just created and account, and don't understand how to use it.

On 10/8/2018 10:44 AM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
I've used Bitwarden on Android. There are a few accessibility issues with the app, but it's definitely usable, and the developers seem willing to listen to feedback. I haven't asked them to change anything about the mobile app yet, but there were some major accessibility issues with the Web vault and browser extensions, and they fixed those right away after I pointed them out.

On 10/8/2018 9:17 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Lanie,

Have you also used the mobile version of Bitwarden and was that on an
ios or android phone?

Regards, Marten

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:57:39 -0500 "Lanie Molinar" <laniemolinar91@gmail.com> wrote:

I use Bitwarden (https://www.bitwarden.com). It's free except for things like a gigabyte of extra storage for keeping files safe, and it's open-source, which I love.

On 10/7/2018 8:45 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike







Re: naming an object

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

That is an issue with the software, and the company need to get it sorted out. Unless it has some kind of unique identity, actually naming it is not easy,as far as I know, and if it was actually seen by the system one might have expected some kind of gobbledegook to be displayed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] naming an object


On the dashboard of my NAS drive is an add button that niether NVDA nor JAWS can find. I just discovered that if I tab in a specific area it stops at something that is not named. When I pressed the space bar on it the add user field opened up.


Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


Howdy,


From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
the issue. You can read more of this here.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused


Tony




Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

 

I've used Bitwarden on Android. There are a few accessibility issues with the app, but it's definitely usable, and the developers seem willing to listen to feedback. I haven't asked them to change anything about the mobile app yet, but there were some major accessibility issues with the Web vault and browser extensions, and they fixed those right away after I pointed them out.

On 10/8/2018 9:17 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Lanie,

Have you also used the mobile version of Bitwarden and was that on an
ios or android phone?

Regards, Marten

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:57:39 -0500 "Lanie Molinar" <laniemolinar91@gmail.com> wrote:

I use Bitwarden (https://www.bitwarden.com). It's free except for things like a gigabyte of extra storage for keeping files safe, and it's open-source, which I love.

On 10/7/2018 8:45 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike






Re: Sort of NVDA Question

Stephen Costigan
 

Hi Felix,

Cheers, I have the sound turned on in team viewer but still nothing, but
thank you for the response.


Regards, Stephen

On 08/10/2018 11:30, Felix G. wrote:
Hi!
NVDA is Windows only, so can't be installed on Android, but in theory
you should be able to hear Talkback through Team Viewer. Maybe you
need to turn sound on in Team Viewer. Or TV for Android cannot
transmit sound to Windows, not sure about that one.
Best,
Felix
Am Mo., 8. Okt. 2018 um 12:26 Uhr schrieb Stephen Costigan
<stephen.costigan@outlook.com>:
Hi All,

I have a sort of NVDA related question.

I have an Android TV box and have it connected through Team Viewer with
my laptop, but I do not hear any speech back through my laptop. Is it
possible to install NVDA on the Android box?

Even with Talkback enabled on the Android box I hear nothing back
through the laptop.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Regards, Stephen




Re: Are either LastPass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

Marten Post Uiterweer
 

Lanie,

Have you also used the mobile version of Bitwarden and was that on an
ios or android phone?

Regards, Marten

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 20:57:39 -0500 "Lanie Molinar" <laniemolinar91@gmail.com> wrote:

I use Bitwarden (https://www.bitwarden.com). It's free except for things like a gigabyte of extra storage for keeping files safe, and it's open-source, which I love.

On 10/7/2018 8:45 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I use Lastpass all the time, with NVDA Jaws, and Narrator with no trouble.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ejaz Shah
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are either lastpass or 1Password accessible with nvda on win7 and win10?

LastPass seems to be quite accessible to me. I have been using this with Firefox for many years.

On 07/10/2018 8:30 pm, Mike Sedmak wrote:
I am considering changing password managers and would welcome feedback
on the accessibility of lastpass and 1Password on windows.

Any recommendations for or against either based on accessibility?

Thanks,
Mike







Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

 

There was confirmation on the JAWS for Windows list that the talking Windows PE ISOs do work just fine, which is a big plus.  This makes it possible for a screen reader user to do a restore, provided they're NVDA-versed enough to use the basics.  Most JAWS users could certainly get through a restore process probably only using commands that overlap between JAWS and NVDA.

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Re: Are There Now or Has There Recently Been a Problem with Donating . . .

 

Quentin,

           All I can tell you at this juncture is that the issue was almost certain to be the donate option that comes up when you are installing a new version of NVDA.  I had asked my friend if she had updated to NVDA 2018.3, to which she responded in the affirmative, but then the conversation turned to her having been unable to donate as she typically does when she updates.

           This is someone who has been a screen reader user for decades, and an NVDA user for a long chunk of that (it's her screen reader of choice).  That's the reason I brought it up because if she was having difficulties I suspected it might not be a case of user error.  Perhaps it was a fluke, but I thought it should be mentioned.
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           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Anyone having issues with the latest basic training for NVDA?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi Tony.

I got the latest edition by clicking download on the title in my account. However, the archive just contains a HTML copy. Very strange as the microsoft word and excel copies haven't been affected.

Cheers,

Mo.

On 08/10/2018 13:23, Tony Ballou wrote:
Howdy,


Just checked up on NV Access and haven't seen any new revisions of the
book, where did you find this? I purchased a copy of the book about a
year and a half ago myself and if there is a new revision to reflect
changes I'll like to have it myself.  Thanks mate.


Tony


On 10/8/2018 5:08 AM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello Everyone.


I am having a problem accessing the latest edition of the basic
training for NVDA archive. When I placed my order last year, I was
able to download a zip  archive containing different formats of the
book. I recently decided to download the latest archive to take in to
account latest improvements in NVDA. When downloading the
basic_training_for_NVDA-NVAccess-20180615.zip archive, it only
contains an HTML copy of the book. Are the other formats no longer
being produced? Is there any way of downloading the latest edition in
multiple formats without me having to convert them all manually?


Very best wishes,


Mo.





naming an object

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

On the dashboard of my NAS drive is an add button that niether NVDA nor JAWS can find. I just discovered that if I tab in a specific area it stops at something that is not named.  When I pressed the space bar on it the add user field opened up.


Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Tony Ballou
 

Howdy,


From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
the issue.  You can read more of this here.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused


Tony


Re: Anyone having issues with the latest basic training for NVDA?

Tony Ballou
 

Howdy,


Just checked up on NV Access and haven't seen any new revisions of the
book, where did you find this? I purchased a copy of the book about a
year and a half ago myself and if there is a new revision to reflect
changes I'll like to have it myself.  Thanks mate.


Tony

On 10/8/2018 5:08 AM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello Everyone.


I am having a problem accessing the latest edition of the basic
training for NVDA archive. When I placed my order last year, I was
able to download a zip  archive containing different formats of the
book. I recently decided to download the latest archive to take in to
account latest improvements in NVDA. When downloading the
basic_training_for_NVDA-NVAccess-20180615.zip archive, it only
contains an HTML copy of the book. Are the other formats no longer
being produced? Is there any way of downloading the latest edition in
multiple formats without me having to convert them all manually?


Very best wishes,


Mo.





Remotely Unlock Your Windows PC via Fingerprint Scanner on Android [XDA Spotlight]

farhan israk
 


Re: NVDA and the audible app

Lenron
 

Yeah that fixed it and they are working on it.

On 10/7/18, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
What's an anagram of conversation? Voices rant on.
Am Sa., 6. Okt. 2018 um 18:23 Uhr schrieb Monte Single
<mrsingle@sasktel.net>:

What rhymes with amazon and audible and apple?? Evil!!





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Griffith
Sent: October-06-18 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in the
UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download facility
now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of
using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on
that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is very
bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the problem
they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any
acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night Audible appears inaccessible for blind users
of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and
Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of Audible
books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have
paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Eventually covers a long period of potential time. Are they going to
cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are
still many around? This sounds like something that may be perhaps three
years away. I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support for
Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.



Also, why assume the worst case? Why contact blindness organizations
first? Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens. Audible has
a good record on accessibility. If there is a problem, talking with them
may cause it to be solved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 1:51 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable
and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at them.
I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap
of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the main issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hi,
This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here
hoping
someone tells me I am mistaken.
I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
Audible download manager.
WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they would
eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the
Audible
app for Windows 10.
As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will
work
with the Audible app for Windows 10.
I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for
those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in
the
future.
The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when
they
would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had
already
stopped updating it.
Regards
Chris






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Re: Sort of NVDA Question

Felix G.
 

Hi!
NVDA is Windows only, so can't be installed on Android, but in theory
you should be able to hear Talkback through Team Viewer. Maybe you
need to turn sound on in Team Viewer. Or TV for Android cannot
transmit sound to Windows, not sure about that one.
Best,
Felix
Am Mo., 8. Okt. 2018 um 12:26 Uhr schrieb Stephen Costigan
<stephen.costigan@outlook.com>:


Hi All,

I have a sort of NVDA related question.

I have an Android TV box and have it connected through Team Viewer with
my laptop, but I do not hear any speech back through my laptop. Is it
possible to install NVDA on the Android box?

Even with Talkback enabled on the Android box I hear nothing back
through the laptop.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Regards, Stephen




Sort of NVDA Question

Stephen Costigan
 

Hi All,

I have a sort of NVDA related question.

I have an Android TV box and have it connected through Team Viewer with
my laptop, but I do not hear any speech back through my laptop. Is it
possible to install NVDA on the Android box?

Even with Talkback enabled on the Android box I hear nothing back
through the laptop.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Regards, Stephen


Re: Problems with tables in Adobe reader

Marco Oros
 

I have tried It, but It didn't change.

Maybe this is special format of tables in this document, but previous versions reads those tables, as a tables, not as a text.

Dňa 7. 10. 2018 o 20:33 Desert Moon napísal(a):

Hello Marco and Else,

My PC is running Windows 10 with the latest NVDA (2018.3.2) and Adobe Reader DC 19. Don't have problems reading tables in PDF files using NVDA or Read Out Loud. Suggest you walk through the accessibility setup in Adobe:

https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/reader/using/accessibility-features.html






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