Date   

I need a Web Content Management System that works well with NVDA

John J. Boyer
 

Thanks.

John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: NVDA and the audible app

David Mehler
 

Hi,

Yah, when the win10 audible app becomes the only thing on windows I'm
going to be rethinking my audible, since the android app while
accessible only gives you drm-protected .aax files.

Anyway, uninstall that app if you haven't already, then reboot and try
a reinstall of the windows desktop application.

Hth
Dave.

On 10/9/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
the audible tech person I worked with installed the windows 10 audible appp

and it is useless for us. I do mean completely.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hello,

Just went through this found it yesterday fought with my computer, it
is not your machine, and got ahold of audible about half an hour ago.
This fixed it for me and site downloads are once again working.

First of all log in to your audible account, then hit enter on your
name, if your using jfw it will say hi whatever your name is
collapsed, arrowing around will now show Under that arrowing you'll
see your account status, for example mine said Gold Monthly.
Continuing to arrow down you'll get to account details, enter on that.
I should note that during this process you might have to log in again
depending on your browser settings. Arrow to update settings, and
scroll down or use heading navigation of NVDA to get to something that
says software verification. Under that there's a checkbox that for you
will be unchecked it says something like check for audible download
manager, check that, and then your good to go.

Hth
Dave.


On 10/8/18, Lenron <lenron93@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah that fixed it and they are working on it.

On 10/7/18, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
What's an anagram of conversation? Voices rant on.
Am Sa., 6. Okt. 2018 um 18:23 Uhr schrieb Monte Single
<mrsingle@sasktel.net>:

What rhymes with amazon and audible and apple?? Evil!!





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David
Griffith
Sent: October-06-18 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in
the
UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download
facility
now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of
using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on
that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is
very
bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the
problem
they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any
acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night Audible appears inaccessible for blind
users
of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and
Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of
Audible
books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have
paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Eventually covers a long period of potential time. Are they going to
cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are
still many around? This sounds like something that may be perhaps
three
years away. I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support
for
Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.



Also, why assume the worst case? Why contact blindness organizations
first? Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens. Audible
has
a good record on accessibility. If there is a problem, talking with
them
may cause it to be solved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 1:51 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable
and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the
blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at
them.
I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if
they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap
of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived
and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the main issue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hi,
This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here
hoping
someone tells me I am mistaken.
I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
Audible download manager.
WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they
would
eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the
Audible
app for Windows 10.
As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will
work
with the Audible app for Windows 10.
I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary
for
those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in
the
future.
The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when
they
would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had
already
stopped updating it.
Regards
Chris







--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762










Re: Using Macrium Reflect Version 7 to Take A Full System Image Backup

 

It has been brought to my attention that one, and only one, dialog during the installation of Macrium Reflect, Version 7, has accessibility issues unless you use one of the various screen readers' alternate cursor methods.  Two members of the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group have been kind enough to put together instructions for dealing with this dialog in each of the three major screen readers:  JAWS, Narrator, and NVDA.

Dealing with the License Key Dialog of Macrium Reflect, Version 7, with a Screen Reader


JAWS
, from David Bailes:

JAWS users can use either the Jaws cursor, or the touch cursor, which is the Jaws equivalent of object navigation.
Using the touch cursor:
1. Starting with the next button being the focus.
2. Switch to using the touch cursor (shift + numpad plus, using the desktop layout).
3. Press either left arrow twice or shift+tab twice to move to the home radio button.
4. Press spacebar or enter to select the radio button, and move the focus to it.
5. Switch back to the pc cursor (numpad plus twice quickly, using the desktop layout).
6. Tab to the next button and press it.



Narrator
 and NVDA, by Timothy Wynn:

Both sets of instructions presume you are in the License Key dialog with focus on the Next button


Narrator
:
1) Enable Narrator if not already running.
2) Use Narrator+Left-arrow to move to the previous item. Narrator will say "non-selected, Commercial, radio-button".
3) Use Narrator+Left-arrow to move to the previous item once more. Narrator will say "non-selected, Home, radio-button".
4) Use Narrator+Enter to do the primary action. On Windows 10 Version 1709, there is no response heard when performing this action, but use the next item (Narrator+Right-arrow) and previous item (Narrator+Left-arrow) commands to confirm. Narrator will say non-selected, Commercial, radio-button", followed by "selected, Home, radio-button"".

NVDA:
1) Start NVDA if not already running.
2) Use the move to previous object command. NVDA will say "This is My Group button".
3) Use the move to first contained object command. NVDA will say "Home radio button not checked".
4) Use the activate current navigator object command. NVDA will say "Check", followed by "This is My Group button", and finally "Home radio button checked".
5) Tab to and activate the Next button, and you should now be on the Registration screen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Gene
 

I don't recall the details.  the article I linked to describes what may be patterns in those who may have the problem. 
 
HGene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

I wonder if this problem only happened to those using the upgrade assistant? I used the media creator and did not have any problems. Nor did I lose any files.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

It may be worse than I thought.  it may be just plain neglegence. 
 
In my past writings on this subject, I've assumed that the problem in the latest major update was caused by defects in the insider program in identifying problems and the pressure of too frequent updates.  This comment in an article on the Kim Komando site raises the very real possibility that its just plain carelessness and neglegence.  This may become a major story and may result in major changes in how Microsoft handles updates. 
 
And this problem is yet another reminder to back up everything you don't want to lose.  If you don't, sooner or later, you'll lose a lot or all of your files because something is going to happen. 
 
https://www.komando.com/happening-now/495846/windows-update-halted-by-microsoft-for-major-problems
Perhaps more troubling are the reports stating that the bug existed even on the Windows Insider preview versions of the update. Isn't this precisely the thing beta testing is for?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

But in the old days, Windows didn't get a full upgrade every six months.  Service packs were infrequent--perhaps two or three or four years apart.  Windows 7 only had one.  Perhaps Microsoft should look through its records of who had problems with Windows 10 upgrades through Windows 10's history.  Perhaps they can identify certain combinations of hardware and software that are prone to problems.  They then can actively attempt to recruit members of the Insider program who run such combinations.  It appears the Insider program is not working as expected. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Windows rollout problems have been with us since the last millennium.  Remember Windows 98, it crashed, right there, on stage with  Bill Gates at the helm.

This just seems to be part of windows reality.  It seems we must live with it or  leave it.  There is a choice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October-08-18 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't known before the rollout?  Are there too few people in the program?  Should there be more attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different ways and on more varied equipment?  Microsoft is developing a reputation for bad rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of having people accept "Windows as a service." 

 

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was stated that both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious problems.  I don't recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the previous upgrade put some users machines into infinite bootup loops.  I don't recall what other problems may have been in that upgrade.  Again, what is wrong with the insider program that this wasn't caught? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says
none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
 The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


> Howdy,
>
>
> From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
> colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
> about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
> 1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
> the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
> happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
> upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
> the issue. You can read more of this here.
>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


I wonder if this problem only happened to those using the upgrade assistant? I used the media creator and did not have any problems. Nor did I lose any files.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

It may be worse than I thought.  it may be just plain neglegence. 
 
In my past writings on this subject, I've assumed that the problem in the latest major update was caused by defects in the insider program in identifying problems and the pressure of too frequent updates.  This comment in an article on the Kim Komando site raises the very real possibility that its just plain carelessness and neglegence.  This may become a major story and may result in major changes in how Microsoft handles updates. 
 
And this problem is yet another reminder to back up everything you don't want to lose.  If you don't, sooner or later, you'll lose a lot or all of your files because something is going to happen. 
 
https://www.komando.com/happening-now/495846/windows-update-halted-by-microsoft-for-major-problems
Perhaps more troubling are the reports stating that the bug existed even on the Windows Insider preview versions of the update. Isn't this precisely the thing beta testing is for?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

But in the old days, Windows didn't get a full upgrade every six months.  Service packs were infrequent--perhaps two or three or four years apart.  Windows 7 only had one.  Perhaps Microsoft should look through its records of who had problems with Windows 10 upgrades through Windows 10's history.  Perhaps they can identify certain combinations of hardware and software that are prone to problems.  They then can actively attempt to recruit members of the Insider program who run such combinations.  It appears the Insider program is not working as expected. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Windows rollout problems have been with us since the last millennium.  Remember Windows 98, it crashed, right there, on stage with  Bill Gates at the helm.

This just seems to be part of windows reality.  It seems we must live with it or  leave it.  There is a choice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October-08-18 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't known before the rollout?  Are there too few people in the program?  Should there be more attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different ways and on more varied equipment?  Microsoft is developing a reputation for bad rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of having people accept "Windows as a service." 

 

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was stated that both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious problems.  I don't recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the previous upgrade put some users machines into infinite bootup loops.  I don't recall what other problems may have been in that upgrade.  Again, what is wrong with the insider program that this wasn't caught? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says
none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
 The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


> Howdy,
>
>
> From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
> colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
> about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
> 1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
> the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
> happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
> upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
> the issue. You can read more of this here.
>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Gene
 

It may be worse than I thought.  it may be just plain neglegence. 
 
In my past writings on this subject, I've assumed that the problem in the latest major update was caused by defects in the insider program in identifying problems and the pressure of too frequent updates.  This comment in an article on the Kim Komando site raises the very real possibility that its just plain carelessness and neglegence.  This may become a major story and may result in major changes in how Microsoft handles updates. 
 
And this problem is yet another reminder to back up everything you don't want to lose.  If you don't, sooner or later, you'll lose a lot or all of your files because something is going to happen. 
 
https://www.komando.com/happening-now/495846/windows-update-halted-by-microsoft-for-major-problems
Perhaps more troubling are the reports stating that the bug existed even on the Windows Insider preview versions of the update. Isn't this precisely the thing beta testing is for?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

But in the old days, Windows didn't get a full upgrade every six months.  Service packs were infrequent--perhaps two or three or four years apart.  Windows 7 only had one.  Perhaps Microsoft should look through its records of who had problems with Windows 10 upgrades through Windows 10's history.  Perhaps they can identify certain combinations of hardware and software that are prone to problems.  They then can actively attempt to recruit members of the Insider program who run such combinations.  It appears the Insider program is not working as expected. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Windows rollout problems have been with us since the last millennium.  Remember Windows 98, it crashed, right there, on stage with  Bill Gates at the helm.

This just seems to be part of windows reality.  It seems we must live with it or  leave it.  There is a choice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October-08-18 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't known before the rollout?  Are there too few people in the program?  Should there be more attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different ways and on more varied equipment?  Microsoft is developing a reputation for bad rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of having people accept "Windows as a service." 

 

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was stated that both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious problems.  I don't recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the previous upgrade put some users machines into infinite bootup loops.  I don't recall what other problems may have been in that upgrade.  Again, what is wrong with the insider program that this wasn't caught? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says
none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
 The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


> Howdy,
>
>
> From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
> colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
> about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
> 1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
> the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
> happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
> upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
> the issue. You can read more of this here.
>
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>



Re: NVDA and the audible app

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

the audible tech person I worked with installed the windows 10 audible appp and it is useless for us. I do mean completely.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hello,

Just went through this found it yesterday fought with my computer, it
is not your machine, and got ahold of audible about half an hour ago.
This fixed it for me and site downloads are once again working.

First of all log in to your audible account, then hit enter on your
name, if your using jfw it will say hi whatever your name is
collapsed, arrowing around will now show Under that arrowing you'll
see your account status, for example mine said Gold Monthly.
Continuing to arrow down you'll get to account details, enter on that.
I should note that during this process you might have to log in again
depending on your browser settings. Arrow to update settings, and
scroll down or use heading navigation of NVDA to get to something that
says software verification. Under that there's a checkbox that for you
will be unchecked it says something like check for audible download
manager, check that, and then your good to go.

Hth
Dave.


On 10/8/18, Lenron <lenron93@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah that fixed it and they are working on it.

On 10/7/18, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
What's an anagram of conversation? Voices rant on.
Am Sa., 6. Okt. 2018 um 18:23 Uhr schrieb Monte Single
<mrsingle@sasktel.net>:

What rhymes with amazon and audible and apple?? Evil!!





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David
Griffith
Sent: October-06-18 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in the
UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download
facility
now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of
using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on
that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is
very
bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the
problem
they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any
acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night Audible appears inaccessible for blind
users
of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and
Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of
Audible
books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have
paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Eventually covers a long period of potential time. Are they going to
cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are
still many around? This sounds like something that may be perhaps three
years away. I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support
for
Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.



Also, why assume the worst case? Why contact blindness organizations
first? Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens. Audible
has
a good record on accessibility. If there is a problem, talking with
them
may cause it to be solved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 1:51 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable
and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the
blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at
them.
I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap
of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived
and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the main issue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hi,
This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here
hoping
someone tells me I am mistaken.
I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
Audible download manager.
WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they
would
eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the
Audible
app for Windows 10.
As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will
work
with the Audible app for Windows 10.
I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for
those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in
the
future.
The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when
they
would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had
already
stopped updating it.
Regards
Chris







--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762




Re: NVDA and the audible app

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

It won't even let me install the audible manager. I keep getting, "connection to server has been reset".

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hello,

Just went through this found it yesterday fought with my computer, it
is not your machine, and got ahold of audible about half an hour ago.
This fixed it for me and site downloads are once again working.

First of all log in to your audible account, then hit enter on your
name, if your using jfw it will say hi whatever your name is
collapsed, arrowing around will now show Under that arrowing you'll
see your account status, for example mine said Gold Monthly.
Continuing to arrow down you'll get to account details, enter on that.
I should note that during this process you might have to log in again
depending on your browser settings. Arrow to update settings, and
scroll down or use heading navigation of NVDA to get to something that
says software verification. Under that there's a checkbox that for you
will be unchecked it says something like check for audible download
manager, check that, and then your good to go.

Hth
Dave.


On 10/8/18, Lenron <lenron93@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah that fixed it and they are working on it.

On 10/7/18, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
What's an anagram of conversation? Voices rant on.
Am Sa., 6. Okt. 2018 um 18:23 Uhr schrieb Monte Single
<mrsingle@sasktel.net>:

What rhymes with amazon and audible and apple?? Evil!!





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David
Griffith
Sent: October-06-18 8:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



I am afraid it is already here and not 3 years away at least here in the
UK

I found last night when I went to my audible Library the download
facility
now takes you to a so called “help” page which only gives the option of
using Audible iOS, Android, Echo etc and Windows 10.

There is an apparent option to use iTunes but if you follow the help on
that it states you need the Audible app installed.

As it is now imposible to download directly from the website this is
very
bad news indeed.

I tried to open a “chat”with Audible support but after stating the
problem
they did not respond at all- I waited for 30 minutes for any
acknowledgement.

So for me as of last night Audible appears inaccessible for blind
users
of Windows and also for devices like the victor Reader Stream/Trek and
Pocket Plextalk which could until last week support the playing of
Audible
books.

As I am now blocked from accessing something like 60 books that I have
paid for over the years I am not a happy customer.

David Griffith



My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts



From: Gene
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Eventually covers a long period of potential time. Are they going to
cause problems for Windows 7 users and Windows 8 users while there are
still many around? This sounds like something that may be perhaps three
years away. I don't know when support for Windows 8 ends and support
for
Windows 7 is ending a little over a year from now.



Also, why assume the worst case? Why contact blindness organizations
first? Why not discuss it with Audible and see what happens. Audible
has
a good record on accessibility. If there is a problem, talking with
them
may cause it to be solved.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 1:51 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app



Well do not use them myself, but their attitude is surely unacceptable
and
arrogant in the extreme in my view. I'd actually report this to the
blind
organisations in the country they are in and let them have a poke at
them.
I
would imagine they might well be shooting themselves in the foot if they
stop supporting things that actually work in favour of some snazzy heap
of
windows app which is a format many people seem to think ill conceived
and
pretty dire even for the sighted.
Yes its probably more secure, but that is not the main issue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and the audible app


Hi,
This is mainlya request for the developers, but I'm posting it here
hoping
someone tells me I am mistaken.
I use the Aubible website for Audio book purchases and downloads. I
conteacted Audible with a request of helping me fix an issue with the
Audible download manager.
WHile they helped me fix the issue, the woman warned me that they
would
eventually phase out the Audible download manager because of the
Audible
app for Windows 10.
As of right now, unless I am very much mistaken, NVDA nor JAWS will
work
with the Audible app for Windows 10.
I would ask that someone look into this as it may become necessary for
those of us that use the website to use the app to download books in
the
future.
The lady I talked to said she could not give me a time frame on when
they
would do away with the Audible download manager, but that they had
already
stopped updating it.
Regards
Chris







--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762




Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Gene
 

Also, in case there is any confusion, I was replying to Shaun, but I didn't keep that message so the message below mine isn't the one I was replying to.  Shaun said he might never use a Microsoft services account as a result of this problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Also, the logic used in this argument is incorrect.  Even if being signed in had a role in file deletion, that doesn't mean it is the fault of the cloud services per se or that in future being signed in has any bearing on the risk of loss.  Whatever the bug is, it's a bug.  If you want to use this logic, you should never take an automobile trip because the breaks have failed on this or that car.  You should never do anything because at some point, doing almost anything has led, in one way or another, to unwanted or bad consequences.  And last, if people would back things up, this would be an inconvenience, nothing more.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

It has already been reported, on several lists and elsewhere, that being logged in to OneDrive or not being logged in to OneDrive has no direct connection to the file deletion issue, at least as a singular trigger.  One of the regulars on the JAWS list reports he's updated 4 machines, two logged in to OneDrive, two not, and all updated fine.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Gene
 

Also, the logic used in this argument is incorrect.  Even if being signed in had a role in file deletion, that doesn't mean it is the fault of the cloud services per se or that in future being signed in has any bearing on the risk of loss.  Whatever the bug is, it's a bug.  If you want to use this logic, you should never take an automobile trip because the breaks have failed on this or that car.  You should never do anything because at some point, doing almost anything has led, in one way or another, to unwanted or bad consequences.  And last, if people would back things up, this would be an inconvenience, nothing more.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

It has already been reported, on several lists and elsewhere, that being logged in to OneDrive or not being logged in to OneDrive has no direct connection to the file deletion issue, at least as a singular trigger.  One of the regulars on the JAWS list reports he's updated 4 machines, two logged in to OneDrive, two not, and all updated fine.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: How can I use NVDA delete a page in word?

Quentin Christensen
 

Not for the most part, in fact I would argue to an extent they have crippled Office's useability by refusing to abandon some really old keystrokes - for instance just on the ribbons, half the reason they are so hard to remember is that they aren't logical.  The Insert ribbon isn't alt+i, because they kept that for people wanting to use old Office 2003 shortcuts, so it's alt+n.  Similarly the View ribbon can't be alt+v in case an Office 2003 user only knows the old way of doing things, so the View ribbon is alt+w..  The Help ribbon is relegated to Alt+Y1.  Nothing is alt+d, yet the developer ribbon is alt+L, meaning the layout ribbon gets alt+p. 

To be honest, the whole thing is a nightmare.  So in short, I expect the reason control+shift+page+down doesn't work is not that they've just changed it, just that they've broken it and haven't fixed it...


On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:20 PM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Funnily enough I've heard this. Does this mean in the newer versions of word
they have changed the keys we used to use?
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I use NVDA delete a page in word?


Hi Logo,

I was about to say that CONTROL+PAGE UP and CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move to the
start of the previous or next page in Word, therefore to select a whole
page, move to the top of a page and press CONTROL+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN.  Then I
tried it and realised that (on Office 365 at least) moving between pages
works, but not selecting them.

So, I have a quick way for you which does use NVDA commands:

1) Move to the start of the page to be deleted.
2) Press NVDA+F9.  This is the review cursor command to "start marking"
text.
3) Press CONTROL+PAGE DOWN to move to the start of the next page.
4) Press the LEFT ARROW to go back one character.
5) Press NVDA+F10 once.  This selects the whole page.
6) Press DELETE.

The reason you have to use the left arrow to go back one character is that
the review cursor copy function takes the character to the right of the
cursor as well, so without that step you would delete the whole page and
the first character from the next page.

Meanwhile, I'm going to go see why CONTROL+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN doesn't work.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 2:29 AM 特種兵 <afreettears@...> wrote:

> hi groups:
>
>    How can I use NVDA fast delete a page in word?
>    I use shift plus down arrow selected line by line, it's slow and
> sometimes move over a page.
>    If I really delete the page exam the third page, how can I use NVDA
> fast delete a page?
>
> --
>
> thank you for much
> Logo Kuo from Taiwan
>
>
>
>
>

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess









--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: windows 10 1809 has fixed a problem for me

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

In his example he was letting goldwave do some intensive work while trying to use explorer I think.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Moore" <angelgirl52376@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 2:43 AM
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 1809 has fixed a problem for me


Hi, all. I thought I'd let Joseph and others know that the File Explorer problem I and so many others were having--at least for me anyway--has been resolved in windows 1809. It used to be that when I'd copy and paste, especially audio files, to and from Dropbox, and when I'd be messing around in several different folders in file Explorer, NVDA would stop reading the list items, so I had a hard time going up and down a list. There were times I had to use another screen reader to do this and have the items read to me. I also used object navigation when I could with NVDA and that did work most of the time. I'm very happy to say now, though, that this latest version of Windows seems to have resolved that--at least for now anyway. Hopefully the trend will continue. Now, I do notice a slight--and I mean a very slight!--pause after I've copied and pasted items from one place to another, but it's barely noticeable. I know Joseph had asked about this a few days back, but I think he was asking about audio files and using something like Gold Wave or something, and my issue wasn't just with audio files; it was with File Explorer in general. I mean, it was getting bad, almost to the point where I dreaded using Dropbox at all on here, and just generally getting from one list item to another was getting to be a royal pain in the behind. it's much, much, much better now, and so for those of you who have had this issue and haven't upgraded, once MS allows the update again, you're--hopefully!--going to be in for a treat!

Annette



Re: How can I use NVDA delete a page in word?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Funnily enough I've heard this. Does this mean in the newer versions of word they have changed the keys we used to use?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How can I use NVDA delete a page in word?


Hi Logo,

I was about to say that CONTROL+PAGE UP and CONTROL+PAGE DOWN move to the
start of the previous or next page in Word, therefore to select a whole
page, move to the top of a page and press CONTROL+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN. Then I
tried it and realised that (on Office 365 at least) moving between pages
works, but not selecting them.

So, I have a quick way for you which does use NVDA commands:

1) Move to the start of the page to be deleted.
2) Press NVDA+F9. This is the review cursor command to "start marking"
text.
3) Press CONTROL+PAGE DOWN to move to the start of the next page.
4) Press the LEFT ARROW to go back one character.
5) Press NVDA+F10 once. This selects the whole page.
6) Press DELETE.

The reason you have to use the left arrow to go back one character is that
the review cursor copy function takes the character to the right of the
cursor as well, so without that step you would delete the whole page and
the first character from the next page.

Meanwhile, I'm going to go see why CONTROL+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN doesn't work.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 2:29 AM 特種兵 <afreettears@gmail.com> wrote:

hi groups:

How can I use NVDA fast delete a page in word?
I use shift plus down arrow selected line by line, it's slow and
sometimes move over a page.
If I really delete the page exam the third page, how can I use NVDA
fast delete a page?

--

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Speeding up one-core voices.

John Isige
 

I used Brian's way, though I'll have to try ease of access too. I wouldn't put it up to the maximum because for me, that gets choppy and hard to understand. I have the Windows speech slider set to 75% and NVDA set to 80, and that does well enough for me. Thanks all!

On 10/9/2018 12:57 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all!

To speed up the One Core voices:

Press Windows+I to open the settings app.

Tab once, and go to the Ease of access category!

Then, go to speech and press enter.

Then, tab to more speech settings and press enter.

Then, tab to a slider, and use page up to increase it to its maximum.

Then, just get out of settings with Alt+F4!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent: *Monday, October 8, 2018 11:17 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Speeding up one-core voices.

Hi all. Where do you go to adjust the speed of one-core voices? Not in

NVDA, you go somewhere else to increase the speed in Windows. I can't

for the life of me remember it, so of course I need to do it. I thought

it was in control panel but I guess not. Thanks in advance, I'm sure

bunches of you know.


Re: Speeding up one-core voices.

David Moore
 

Hi all!

To speed up the One Core voices:

Press Windows+I to open the settings app.

Tab once, and go to the Ease of access category!

Then, go to speech and press enter.

Then, tab to more speech settings and press enter.

Then, tab to a slider, and use page up to increase it to its maximum.

Then, just get out of settings with Alt+F4!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Speeding up one-core voices.

 

Hi all. Where do you go to adjust the speed of one-core voices? Not in

NVDA, you go somewhere else to increase the speed in Windows. I can't

for the life of me remember it, so of course I need to do it. I thought

it was in control panel but I guess not. Thanks in advance, I'm sure

bunches of you know.

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

It has already been reported, on several lists and elsewhere, that being logged in to OneDrive or not being logged in to OneDrive has no direct connection to the file deletion issue, at least as a singular trigger.  One of the regulars on the JAWS list reports he's updated 4 machines, two logged in to OneDrive, two not, and all updated fine.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Annette Moore
 

I don't use them either, Shaun, and I never had a problem. I feel bad for those who have had issues, though.

On 10/8/2018 10:52 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well would be fine its only if you are signed in to ms cloud services.

I don't use them, it may just in fact make me decide to just never sign in to onedrive or ever use it so windows doesn't delete my files.



On 10/9/2018 2:23 PM, Stephen wrote:
What if you formated your pc and installed windows 10 1809 from scratch? and then put all your other data back on there after the instalation. would that work better?

At 03:17 AM 10/9/2018, you wrote:
Actually, I had seen some stuff come over the wire for about a week
now that if Windows didn't feel it had enough space during this past
update, the potential to delete files existed. But yeah--it does make
1 wonder. I suppose it's always best practice to make a backup, but,
sometimes, Windows doesn't give a warning prior to updating--it just
does it. I think these "Creator" updates do let you decide, though. I
know the last fall creators update gave me a lot of problems accessing
my ISP's website after it was completed, & I had to roll it back for a
long while until the issues got resolved.

On 10/8/18, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't
known before
the rollout?  Are there too few people in the program? Should
there be more
attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different
ways and
on more varied equipment?  Microsoft is developing a reputation
for bad
rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of
having
people accept "Windows as a service."

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was
stated that
both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious
problems.  I don't
recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the
previous upgrade
put some users machines into infinite bootup loops.  I don't
recall what
other problems may have been in that upgrade.  Again, what is
wrong with the
insider program that this wasn't caught?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major
issues


Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning.
Though he says

none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so
question marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of
files when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
  The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it
won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
  Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major
issues


Howdy,


From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the
wires and
colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10
version
1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update
back on
the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to
have
the issue. You can read more of this here.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused


Tony










--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
Jackie McBride
Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com





Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

Well would be fine its only if you are signed in to ms cloud services.

I don't use them, it may just in fact make me decide to just never sign in to onedrive or ever use it so windows doesn't delete my files.

On 10/9/2018 2:23 PM, Stephen wrote:
What if you formated your pc and installed windows 10 1809 from scratch? and then put all your other data back on there after the instalation. would that work better?

At 03:17 AM 10/9/2018, you wrote:
Actually, I had seen some stuff come over the wire for about a week
now that if Windows didn't feel it had enough space during this past
update, the potential to delete files existed. But yeah--it does make
1 wonder. I suppose it's always best practice to make a backup, but,
sometimes, Windows doesn't give a warning prior to updating--it just
does it. I think these "Creator" updates do let you decide, though. I
know the last fall creators update gave me a lot of problems accessing
my ISP's website after it was completed, & I had to roll it back for a
long while until the issues got resolved.

On 10/8/18, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't
known before
the rollout?  Are there too few people in the program? Should there
be more
attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different
ways and
on more varied equipment?  Microsoft is developing a reputation for
bad
rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of having
people accept "Windows as a service."

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was
stated that
both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious
problems.  I don't
recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the previous
upgrade
put some users machines into infinite bootup loops.  I don't recall
what
other problems may have been in that upgrade.  Again, what is wrong
with the
insider program that this wasn't caught?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major
issues


Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning.
Though he says

none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question
marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files
when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
  The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it
won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
  Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major
issues


Howdy,


From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the
wires and
colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10
version
1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update
back on
the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to
have
the issue. You can read more of this here.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused


Tony










--
Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe
Jackie McBride
Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time
https://brighter-vision.com




Re: Speeding up one-core voices.

 

Settings, Time & Language, Speech Pane
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 


Speeding up one-core voices.

John Isige
 

Hi all. Where do you go to adjust the speed of one-core voices? Not in NVDA, you go somewhere else to increase the speed in Windows. I can't for the life of me remember it, so of course I need to do it. I thought it was in control panel but I guess not. Thanks in advance, I'm sure bunches of you know.