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No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
Rick
I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present. I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.
If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all speech output on that particular window. It doesn’t matter if I am using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine in slide show mode.
If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected. NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the internal speakers or connected headset.
I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.
Rick
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Re: Nvda remote access
Jackie
Have you downloaded the latest update of NVDA remote?
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Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle
Annette Moore
I use a program called Codex to convert the books and then QRead to read them if I want to read them on the computer. I do the same thing if I want to read them on the phone, except then I upload them to Dropbox and use Voice Dream Reader. I do have Kindle for PC on here though, and that does work well if I want to use it. I have a voice preference though, so I do take those extra steps and use Ivona Kendra with QRead or Voice Dream.
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Annette
On 10/12/2018 10:30 AM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
I've used the Kindle for PC app, and the latest version has the
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Nvda remote access
Joe Paton
Good evening,
In the latest batch of NVDA releases, the option to connect to remote devices, has gone. It used to be under tools, remote, now there is nothing. Has this function been removed? or, where is it now? the plug in is installed, and active. Many thanks.
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Re: Hi
Gene
However, does using this add--on discourage
learning how to use screen-review commands in NVDA? and does this lack of
learning mean that, when it is advisable to use the activate command available
on the numpad or to use the route and click virtual mouse commands NVDA
provides, the user won't know how to do these things? This may be an
add-on that duplicates functions already available in NVDA where the user would
be much better off learning the NVDA way to do things if the user if at all
demanding and who wishshes to go beyond rather elementary learning. Also,
some NVDA review commands are essential for working with Windows 10 apps.
It sounds like a bad idea to have such an add-on that discourages learning of
the screen-reader itself.
Gene
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Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Hi Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. Best Regards Michael Munn
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Re: Hi
Chris Mullins
Hi
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Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys. Cheers Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Hi Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. Best Regards Michael Munn
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Re: Hi
Gene
In JAWS, you can place a
window in the Virtual PC cursor buffer as though it were a web page. Or,
if NVDA had this feature, it
would be in the browse mode buffer. This allows the user to move
around in a window such as an error dialog as though there were a cursor when
there isn't. You can copy to the clipboard just as you can on a web
page. But NVDA, as you know, but for those who don't, can do the same
things in different ways.
Gene
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That phrase doesn't mean anything to me (and therefore, maybe not to others here either). Antony. On Friday 12 October 2018 at 17:48:43, Michael Munn wrote: > Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. > How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because > yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up > and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. > I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about > the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. > Best Regards Michael Munn -- BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Hi
Gene
You can't virtualize a window using NVDA. You
need to use screen review keys. do you know them? If you want to
copy screen material to the clipboard where there is no cursor, such as in an
error dialog, you need to use screen review keys and an NVDA command to copy the
material to the clipboard.
I won't answer further in this message because I
want to be sure what you need to know. From your message, it sounds as
though you need to know screen review commands and how to copy text to the
clipboard as I discussed. There are explanations in the manual of all
this. I can look up sections where it is.
but others may provide the information and/or
explanations of their own so I'll see how things develop.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- > Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. > How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because > yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up > and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. > I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about > the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. > Best Regards Michael Munn -- BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Speeding up one-core voices.
Rosemarie Chavarria
I didn't think of that. Thanks for the tip.
On 10/11/2018 11:10 PM, David Moore
wrote:
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Re: keyboard
Chris Mullins
Hi To help with the fact that the shift key is not announced with command keys on, you could go to the voice dialog NVDA+alt+v and set up either a Capital pitch percentage, say cap when typing a capital letter or beep when typing a capital letter. Then set speak type characters on with NVDA+2, and your newbie will be able to hear that capital letters are being typed.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 12 October 2018 01:21 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard
NVDA+4 toggles speak command keys. That won't announce if you just press SHIFT and let it go, but it will announce "CONTROL+S" if you press those keys.
You can also access that option from the "Keyboard" settings (NVDA+CONTROL+K to get there directly, or via the NVDA menu).
In order to practise the keyboard, you can also use NVDA's "Input help" mode. Press NVDA+1 to turn Input help on. From then, you can press any key or key combination and NVDA will announce what you have pressed (including things like shift on its own) and what NVDA function it performs (if it's an NVDA keystroke). The keys won't do anything however, so if you press the WINDOWS key, NVDA will report it, but the Windows Start menu will not open.
Kind regards
Quentin.
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Re: Hi
Rui Fontes
Hi!
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David, in some cases, the NVDA object navigation is better then Jaws 18 cursor... With the new cursor of Jaws 2018 and 2019 I don't know... And there are an addon to virtualize the window.., see in: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html Rui Fontes Às 17:35 de 12/10/2018, David Griffith escreveu:
The phrase Virtualised window is often used to describe the process where text is collected from a Screen GUII and presented in a virtual window buffer which a screenreader can use.
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Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle
Well you could always buy an olimpus dm5 or 4 or the latest dm series most of them have voice and will support daisy among other things.
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The cost is as much as an orbit. As for your average plextalk thats round 700 bucks it is not much more than an orbit. For software there is amis on the computer, dolphin easy reader on the pc, but I'd try to get v6, I hate the v7 interface thats 80 bucks. Dolphin seem to have their easy reader app free on smartphones so you could use that I guess. there is this voice dream reader thingy aparently never used that. To be honest, while I do read books my plextalk from the library does most things, where I need to really read something I either read it on a computer or something. Where a daisy book is split into actual tracks I have actually just played the tracks on a standard audio cd player or a media player of choice rather than my registered daisy player. Its only a problem if the tracks are split weirdly.
On 10/13/2018 2:06 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Hello guys!
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Re: daisy book reader
john s
Robert, I use FS Reader fine with Window Eyes.
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At 11:21 AM 10/12/2018, Robert Doc Wright godfearer, wrote: Is there a reader similar to jaws fsReader for NVDA?
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Re: Suggestion regarding replies on this list
Antony Stone
Agreed - if the person with the problem has explained clearly enough how to
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cause it, and the responder knows they're doing the same thing, it can be helpful to point out that something else about the machine or the software configuration must be the culprit, and the user is actually doing the right things. Antony.
On Friday 12 October 2018 at 18:37:41, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Re: Suggestion regarding replies on this list
Amen, Antony!!
Not just here, but on any venue where computers and software are being discussed. I will, however, say that I do believe that sometimes, "I'm not having that problem," replies are entirely appropriate when the problem is not being experienced when taking exactly the same steps as someone has documented. There are many times when something idiosyncratic about an individual's computer or software installation is giving them an issue when they're doing everything as they should but things aren't behaving as they should. Knowing that others cannot reproduce when doing the same thing is a valuable piece of diagnostic information. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another. Everybody knows that this is untrue. . . ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: Hi
David Griffith
The phrase Virtualised window is often used to describe the process where text is collected from a Screen GUII and presented in a virtual window buffer which a screenreader can use.
In relation to the original question NVDA in the first case will most often read a window / dialogue box with the same keypress as Jaws – that is NVDA plus B. Unfortunately NVDA does not have all the same cursor abilities as Jaws but if NVDA plus B does not deliver the required results then some options are still available. First of all you can try object navigation. Basically you can experiment with pressing numbers of the keypad if you have desktop layout to see if you get any useful results. You can refer to the User Guide for more detailed and explicit instructions. Finally you can use the inbuilt Windows 10 OCR facility with NVDA simply by pressing NVDA plus R. This is often as good as if not better than Jaws Virtual Convenient OCR in relation to reading window contents. If using earlier versions of windows you will need to download an Virtual OCR addon but I must admit when I used to use this it did not deliver many useful results in my experience. David Griffith. My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
From: Antony Stone
Sent: 12 October 2018 17:19 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Hi
Please explain what you mean by "virtualize a window".
That phrase doesn't mean anything to me (and therefore, maybe not to others here either).
Antony.
On Friday 12 October 2018 at 17:48:43, Michael Munn wrote:
> Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. > How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because > yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up > and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. > I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about > the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. > Best Regards Michael Munn
-- BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic.
Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Suggestion regarding replies on this list
Antony Stone
Hi.
I have a couple of suggestions regarding how to make replies on this list more useful to the people who asked the questions: 1. If your reply is basically "I don't have a problem doing this", please explain how you do it - what application you use, how you find the content, whether you use speech or Braille - anything which might help the person who asked the question understand how you do manage to do it without the problem that they are having. Simply saying "I don't have a problem doing this" doesn't give the person who asked the question any information about how they might be able to do it too. 2. If you are the person asking the question, please give as much information as possible about what you are doing when you encounter a problem - either so that other people can reproduce your problem and possibly suggest what to do about it, or possibly so that someone who doesn't have the problem can see "ah, this bit is different from what I do" and tell you how you might go about it differently. And finally, if you find a solution to your problem (either on this list or from elsewhere), please post a follow-up message saying what you had to do differently in order to make something work better, so that others can learn from it, and maybe find your answer in the list archives later and avoid having to ask the same question again. Just saying "it's okay, everything is working now" without saying what you did or what has changed can be quite frustrating for someone else with the same proble, who now knows that you have a solution but doesn't know what it is. Thanks, Antony. -- If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we'd be so simple that we couldn't. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] - [nvda] Screen reader accessibility with Kindle
Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
Hi, I’ve never found the process of reading Kindle books from the PC difficult at all. You do have to go to Amazon to buy the books, it would be the same way if you have the Kindle app for your iPhone, I believe.
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Re: Hi
Antony Stone
Please explain what you mean by "virtualize a window".
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That phrase doesn't mean anything to me (and therefore, maybe not to others here either). Antony.
On Friday 12 October 2018 at 17:48:43, Michael Munn wrote:
Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. --
BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Hi
Michael Munn
Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA.
How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. Best Regards Michael Munn
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