Re: Nvda remote access
Jackie
David, again, did you update to the latest version of the remote addon?
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On 10/12/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
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Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
Mike Sedmak
Have you tried
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Use f5 to start the slideshow Use ESCAPE to close the slideshow Use F5 again to start the slideshow I find that starting the slideshow a second time works more consistently than the first try.
On 10/12/18, Rick <softwarethatworks@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Joseph:
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Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle
Dave <dlh007@...>
Yes, CodeX has become one of my most Favorite programs. I don't know
how it does what it does, but I am sure glad it is available, and that it works so well.
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Re: Hi
Gene
It will be interesting to see what others
say. I don't think that it is a good idea to provide add-ons that provide
a way to do something that lowers the chance that the most versatile and useful
way will be learned. That was also the problem with the Window-eyes JAWS
imitation interface. It may have gotten some JAWS users to use
Window-eyes, but the imitation JAWS interface had less functionality than the
real Window-eyes interface.
Gene
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I was the mentor of this addon initially developed by Rui Batista and currently maintained by Joseph Lee... I do not agree that it will force the users to do not learn NVDA review tools, but it will be usefull untill they learn... And it is also usefull to users coming from Jaws... Rui Às 19:19 de 12/10/2018, Gene escreveu: > However, does using this add--on discourage learning how to use > screen-review commands in NVDA? and does this lack of learning mean > that, when it is advisable to use the activate command available on the > numpad or to use the route and click virtual mouse commands NVDA > provides, the user won't know how to do these things? This may be an > add-on that duplicates functions already available in NVDA where the > user would be much better off learning the NVDA way to do things if the > user if at all demanding and who wishshes to go beyond rather elementary > learning. Also, some NVDA review commands are essential for working > with Windows 10 apps. It sounds like a bad idea to have such an add-on > that discourages learning of the screen-reader itself. > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Chris Mullins <mailto:cjmullins29@...> > *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 1:12 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Hi > > Hi > Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use > NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael > Munn > Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49 > To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io> > Subject: [nvda] Hi > > Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. > How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because > yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and > I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. > I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the > nvda Screen reader. > Please help if you all can. > Best Regards Michael Munn > > > > >
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Re: Nvda remote access
Antony Stone
Hm, I wonder...
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Maybe it's because there's a problem. Tell us what versions of Windows, NVDA and NVDA Remote you're using, how you're trying to do things, and what happens when to try to connect (error message, nothing, what?), and maybe we can help. Otherwise we can only guess, and that's probably not helpful. Antony.
On Friday 12 October 2018 at 23:05:48, DAVID wrote:
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Re: Nvda remote access
DAVID <davidlacaille2@...>
hi all.
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how come I cant use the options or conict to anything using the remote addon.
On 10/12/18, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, Joe, you're more than welcome, believe me! If all the problems I --
David La Caille
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Re: Hi
Rui Fontes
Hi!
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I was the mentor of this addon initially developed by Rui Batista and currently maintained by Joseph Lee... I do not agree that it will force the users to do not learn NVDA review tools, but it will be usefull untill they learn... And it is also usefull to users coming from Jaws... Rui Às 19:19 de 12/10/2018, Gene escreveu:
However, does using this add--on discourage learning how to use screen-review commands in NVDA? and does this lack of learning mean that, when it is advisable to use the activate command available on the numpad or to use the route and click virtual mouse commands NVDA provides, the user won't know how to do these things? This may be an add-on that duplicates functions already available in NVDA where the user would be much better off learning the NVDA way to do things if the user if at all demanding and who wishshes to go beyond rather elementary learning. Also, some NVDA review commands are essential for working with Windows 10 apps. It sounds like a bad idea to have such an add-on that discourages learning of the screen-reader itself.
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Re: Nvda remote access
Jackie
Hey, Joe, you're more than welcome, believe me! If all the problems I
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had to solve were that simple, I'd be walkin' in clover lol. There was just a lot of discussion on this list awhile back that the old NVDA Remote was incompatible w/the latest version of NVDA, & that the authors had just recently updated it to make it so. I was blessed to have remembered all that, I guess, & it didn't hurt either that it affected me as well. Have a great weekend.
On 10/12/18, Joe Paton <patonplace@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jackie, --
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Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
Rick
Hello Joseph:
I will look into this as I try to replicate the problem using a TV monitor instead of a projector and see if the sound actually gets rerouted. However, this only happens on the Power Point Slide Show window. All other windows continue speaking out the default speaker. I would think that all speech would be rerouted and not just the slide show. Additionally, once I restart NVDA, I can open and close Power Point and the speech continues to come out the default speaker when starting a slide show.
Also, Narrator does not exhibit this problem.
Rick
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:37 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
Hi, This may have to do with audio output redirection: when an HDMI cable is connected, sound is sent through the cable, so NVDA may not recognize that you’ve still got your internal sound card active. You can ask NVDA to speak through a chosen sound card via Synthesizer/output device combo box (Control+NVDA+S). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick
I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present. I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.
If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all speech output on that particular window. It doesn’t matter if I am using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine in slide show mode.
If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected. NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the internal speakers or connected headset.
I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.
Rick
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Re: Nvda remote access
Joe Paton
Hello Jackie,
That, indeed was the problem. I had version 1.2, version 2.2, fixed the issue. Thank you so much. Joe
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Re: No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
Hi, This may have to do with audio output redirection: when an HDMI cable is connected, sound is sent through the cable, so NVDA may not recognize that you’ve still got your internal sound card active. You can ask NVDA to speak through a chosen sound card via Synthesizer/output device combo box (Control+NVDA+S). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:32 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present. I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.
If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all speech output on that particular window. It doesn’t matter if I am using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine in slide show mode.
If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected. NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the internal speakers or connected headset.
I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.
Rick
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No voice, Power Point Slide Show view on Laptop with HDMI connected, NVDA restart fixes problem
Rick
I have 2 high-end Lenovo laptops with nVidia graphics cards. Both are running Windows 10 Professional and Office 365 desktop apps. One computer is brand new while the other is 3 years old. These are work computers, so Windows and Office are updated within the last few months and not necessarily running the absolute latest updates. I am running the latest released version of NVDA and have no addin present. I have Microsoft Speech API Version 5 as my voice.
If connected to projectors using the HDMI port, putting a Power Point presentation into slide show mode (by pressing the F5 key) I lose all speech output on that particular window. It doesn’t matter if I am using the internal speakers or am connected to a wired or wireless headset. Alt tabbing to other windows and NVDA speaks just fine, but not on the slide show window. Moving from slide to slide produces no speech. If the HDMI connection is not present, NVDA speaks just fine in slide show mode.
If I now restart NVDA with Power Point still displaying the slide show and the HDMI connection still present, everything works as expected. NVDA reads the slides as I navigate from slide to slide, using the internal speakers or connected headset.
I tried restarting NVDA after booting the computer to see if it was a problem with the autostart of NVDA completing prior to other parts of the system completing initialization, but it still failed to speak in slide show window until restarting NVDA after launching Power Point.
Rick
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Re: Nvda remote access
Jackie
Have you downloaded the latest update of NVDA remote?
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On 10/12/18, Joe Paton <patonplace@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: Screen reader accessibility with Kindle
Annette Moore
I use a program called Codex to convert the books and then QRead to read them if I want to read them on the computer. I do the same thing if I want to read them on the phone, except then I upload them to Dropbox and use Voice Dream Reader. I do have Kindle for PC on here though, and that does work well if I want to use it. I have a voice preference though, so I do take those extra steps and use Ivona Kendra with QRead or Voice Dream.
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Annette
On 10/12/2018 10:30 AM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
I've used the Kindle for PC app, and the latest version has the
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Nvda remote access
Joe Paton
Good evening,
In the latest batch of NVDA releases, the option to connect to remote devices, has gone. It used to be under tools, remote, now there is nothing. Has this function been removed? or, where is it now? the plug in is installed, and active. Many thanks.
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Re: Hi
Gene
However, does using this add--on discourage
learning how to use screen-review commands in NVDA? and does this lack of
learning mean that, when it is advisable to use the activate command available
on the numpad or to use the route and click virtual mouse commands NVDA
provides, the user won't know how to do these things? This may be an
add-on that duplicates functions already available in NVDA where the user would
be much better off learning the NVDA way to do things if the user if at all
demanding and who wishshes to go beyond rather elementary learning. Also,
some NVDA review commands are essential for working with Windows 10 apps.
It sounds like a bad idea to have such an add-on that discourages learning of
the screen-reader itself.
Gene
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Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Hi Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. Best Regards Michael Munn
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Re: Hi
Chris Mullins
Hi
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Download and install the Virtual review addon then you can use NVDA+Control+w to virtualise a window then browse it using arrow keys. Cheers Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Munn Sent: 12 October 2018 16:49 To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Hi Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. Best Regards Michael Munn
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Re: Hi
Gene
In JAWS, you can place a
window in the Virtual PC cursor buffer as though it were a web page. Or,
if NVDA had this feature, it
would be in the browse mode buffer. This allows the user to move
around in a window such as an error dialog as though there were a cursor when
there isn't. You can copy to the clipboard just as you can on a web
page. But NVDA, as you know, but for those who don't, can do the same
things in different ways.
Gene
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That phrase doesn't mean anything to me (and therefore, maybe not to others here either). Antony. On Friday 12 October 2018 at 17:48:43, Michael Munn wrote: > Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. > How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because > yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up > and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. > I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about > the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. > Best Regards Michael Munn -- BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Hi
Gene
You can't virtualize a window using NVDA. You
need to use screen review keys. do you know them? If you want to
copy screen material to the clipboard where there is no cursor, such as in an
error dialog, you need to use screen review keys and an NVDA command to copy the
material to the clipboard.
I won't answer further in this message because I
want to be sure what you need to know. From your message, it sounds as
though you need to know screen review commands and how to copy text to the
clipboard as I discussed. There are explanations in the manual of all
this. I can look up sections where it is.
but others may provide the information and/or
explanations of their own so I'll see how things develop.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- > Hi all, This is Michael. i have a question about a feature in NVDA. > How can one virtualize a window using NVDA? I'm asking that because > yesterday I was doing something with NVDa and some error message pop up > and I couldn't read it because I don't know how to virtualize the message. > I would be able to read it if I use Jaws. I'm not saying bad thing about > the nvda Screen reader. Please help if you all can. > Best Regards Michael Munn -- BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: Speeding up one-core voices.
Rosemarie Chavarria
I didn't think of that. Thanks for the tip.
On 10/11/2018 11:10 PM, David Moore
wrote:
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